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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 26, 2007 18:08:29 GMT 3
By Onyango Oloo in Nairobi
I am starting the first version of this digital dispatch at around 17:23 Nairobi time, today, Wednesday, December 26, 2007.
Approximately 40 minutes ago, a live press briefing presided over by chief state spinmeister Dr. Goebbels Mutua wrapped up, carried by KBC and Citizen TV.
Dr. Mutua had to respond to a number of questions from the Daily Nation, Standard, BBC, Associated Press, Reuters, Kass FM and several other local and international media houses.
The briefing revolved around one issue: allegations of state complicity in rigging the December 27th elections with specific reference to the controversial training and secret deployment of 65,000 Administration Police from Nairobi to polling stations in the Rift Valley, Western Province, Nyanza and Eastern province- all seen to be opposition strongholds.
Some of the sizzling questions posed:
Can you comment on reports that wananchi seized 350,000 pre-marked ballot papers in Kericho?
Why were these AP personnel not equipped with any form of identification?
Why were they being deployed to act as civilians and in some cases “PNU agents”?
Can you comment on SMS messages claiming that another state-led attack on the Standard, KTN and other media houses is imminent?
Why are the government and PNU operatives claiming that a man who was killed in Kibera was a PNU activist when reports on the ground indicate that he was actually a suspected mugger who had stolen someone’s mobile phone?
Local police representatives claim they have NO KNOWLEDGE or CONNECTION to the AP deployments from Nairobi. Your reaction please.
The Kibaki government spokesman was outright ludicrous in some of his responses.
He suggested for instance (and this in the wake of strenuous denials by the government of the very existence of these AP troops) that the AP personnel were transported at night secretly for logistical reasons and that there was nothing really odd or weird over the fact that they were being transported in civilian buses like Citi Hoppa rather than government issue Land Rovers, Cruisers and other state owned vehicles. He also advanced the strange theory that police officers usually carry NO IDENTIFICATION (forgetting of course, that one of the reasons why they are required to wear uniforms is for such identification purposes and that each uniform has a serial number which can be traced to a specific policeman or policewoman).
Using callous Orwellian newspeak, Dr. Mutua alleged that IT WAS THE OPPOSITION that had “planted” the pre-marked ballot papers seized by the wananchi in Kericho and other places.
After attacking the Standard Group for their brilliant expose of the secret deployments, he charged that sections of the media were inciting the public and urged them to essentially practice self-censorship, arguing that the publication of unflattering news about the Kibaki’s regime’s rigging plans could and had led to loss of human lives.
He warned darkly that individuals found to be behind the SMS alerts were in the process of being rounded up and interrogated.
Observing from my living room, I noticed that he was addressing a roomful of largely skeptical members of the Fourth Estate.
Here was something else that did not come up directly at Mutua’s press briefing. This, an SMS sent to me earlier in the day:
Or this other message from Xmas evening (21:30 Nairobi time):
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As an aside, during KTN news dispatch at 1 pm today (26th December) there was an item about Kakamega-bound travelers stranded at around Lari. Now these stories are fungu peni, in other words quite common around Christmas time. What were different are the accounts by the passengers. They all testified that the bus had “broken down” in mysterious and suspicious circumstances with the driver melting into thin air. For a big portion of the night they were surrounded and accosted by locals who were overwhelmingly PNU and Kibaki supporters who taunted them telling that there was no way a tribal slur (uncircumcised man) like Raila was ever going to be President of Kenya. They all felt very strongly that the bus company was deliberately trying to sabotage their democratic rights by ensuring they do not make it to their respective rural homesteads to cast a vote for Raila Odinga and ODM.
The eye-witness accounts of these passengers gel very much with widely circulated concerns over the last three and a half weeks of a plot by PNU friendly bus and matatu owners to cripple public transport on election day.
Oops.
It is now around 6pm.
Gotta go.
I am coming back to augment this digital dispatch later….
Onyango Oloo
Nairobi, Kenya
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 26, 2007 18:24:52 GMT 3
GOVERNMENT CONDEMNS ELECTION VIOLENCE AGAINST SECURITY AGENTS, POLITICAL PARTY AGENTS AND WOMEN AND DENIES RIGGING CLAIMS
VIOLENCE AND MURDERThe Government is appalled by the murder of three people and the injuring of twenty more in Nyanza Province and Kibera area. The Government is also perturbed by violence by ODM leaders in some parts of the Rift Valley. It is very sad that security officers that have been deployed by the Government to provide security in polling stations are being targeted for murder by ODM supporters. The Government has deployed over 65,000 security agents to all parts of the country, in keeping with the request by the Electoral Commission of Kenya, to ensure security during the voting process. This deployment is not unique and is a process that has been undertaken in all elections held in this country since independence. The deployment also happened during the referendum period. In a clear show of intolerance and violence, police officers that have been deployed to Nyanza province and in particular Luo Nyanza areas are being targeted for murder. For example, two officers who arrived yesterday were in separate incidents taking a walk when they were attacked by a mob and killed. Another ten from various areas are in critical condition in hospitals. It is appalling that in the same region, ODM supporters have blocked roads and have started a process of stopping vehicles and targeting some people for violence. Already a businessman has just been killed. His crime? He was just traveling as any other Kenyan would and happens not to be from the region. The Government views these acts of violence against other communities by ODM supporters in Luo Nyanza and Kibera area to be intolerable and out of tune with democracy and the peace and stability we enjoy as Kenyans. The Government has also intercepted SMS carrying hate messages that would result in communities targeting especially security officers, people from other communities and PNU supporters. Other SMS alleging that some media houses will be raided are also false and mere propaganda. The Government takes the position that these incidents, acts of violence and intolerance are a sign of raw greed for power and a way of discouraging Kenyans from turning out to vote. In other words, it is a way of destroying democracy. It is now quiet clear that some leaders have resulted to crude means of inciting members of the public with a view to ensuring the elections are not free and fair.
RIGGING ELECTION ALLEGATIONSThere has been constant allegations by some media houses and ODM leaders that the Government wants to rig the forthcoming elections. This is not true. It has become apparent that what we are seeing today and the claims by the ODM leaders is a calculated propaganda campaign meant to dissuade voters from turning out to vote. There has been allegations that ballot boxes with stuffed ballot papers have been recovered in various parts of the country. This is part of that propaganda campaign. As all Kenyans know, and as the ECK has clarified, you cannot introduce a ballot box to a polling station. This is because all political parties in any polling stations have agents representing them. In addition to this, the Government has invited over 30,000 local and international observers to be in all polling stations. As ECK will tell you, before the voting starts, each of the empty ballot boxes is shown and then each agent certifies it and applies their own seal (or lock) to the box. After a ballot box is full, it is placed in clear view of all to see. After the elections, counting is done at the polling station so there is no movement of any ballot boxes. Before counting begins, each agent unlocks their seal and clarifies that there has not been any irregularity. Therefore, introduction of any new ballot box is impossible. Anybody can take a box, fill it with papers and claim it is a ballot box. However, only the ECK, has the right boxes and documents and these are for everyone to see during the election period. There are claims that in Eldoret, some people have been nabbed with election ballot boxes with papers. This, the Government believes, is an orchestrated campaign by ODM leaders to try and justify their rigging claims. The Government has confidence that the Electoral Commission of Kenya has the capacity and is able to ensure a free and fair election. Even the security agents deployed to polling stations are answerable to the ECK. The Government is aware that ODM leaders have already decided to disrupt the elections so as to stop Kenyans from exercising their democratic right to elect leaders of their choice. The Government assures all Kenyans that there will be comprehensive security during the voting period and no one should be intimidated. Come out and vote and do not let any hooligan win by denying you, your God-given right to cast your vote. The Government appeals to Wananchi to treat these unfounded allegation of rigging as mere propaganda by ODM officials who would like to refute the elections if they do not go in their favour. Tell these leaders that they cannot control your democratic right and as a free country and free people, you have the right to elect whoever you want and nobody, and I repeat, nobody, should ever be in power through illegal and violent means. Let us say no Violence. Anybody with any information that is relevant to ensuring free and fair elections should report it to the nearest police station immediately and to the ECK. Finally, it should be noted that the mobs killing people in Luo Nyanza are doing so after the broadcast and printing of alarmist unsubstantiated rigging media reports. Therefore, the Government urges media houses to champion for non-violence and to be extremely careful how they conduct their reportage and relay their news.
Dr. Alfred N. Mutua, EBS
Public Communications Secretary &
Government Spokersperson
December 26, 2007www.communication.go.ke/media.as … dia_type=2
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 26, 2007 19:21:29 GMT 3
Oloo
Thanks
These are the questions I had posted on the other thread may be as you were posting this.
But there are a million questions for Michuki, here are some of them.
1. Why are the A.P's in disguise? These people should be in uniform and armed as they often are and clearly identifiable as law enforcement officers. That is rule number one in law enforcement unless one is involved in high stakes secret work like trucking down terror suspects etc. What is the deal with under cover A.P's monitoring elections? Since when did elections in Kenya become secret operations. Secret ballot does not mean secret operations. Am I missing something?
2. Why was this whole deployment a secret until it was brought to the public's attention by the media? Isn't this endangering the lives of A.P's? Why can't the government just announce to the public that they will have so many officers and they will be publicly identifiable and nobody should bother them?
3. Why are these secret A.P's only sent to certain areas? Of the 20 or so buses that left the A.P secret training camp almost all of them are being sighted in Nyanza, some parts of the Rift Valley and Western Province. What is the justification for this?
4. How does the government explain the fact that even in the areas where they are being deployed the police command leaders there are for the most part saying they are not aware of any additional officers being sent to their areas and they haven't asked for any? How do you send officers to an area when the area commander doesn't even know they are coming?
5. How does the government explain that even CID officers, for example in Kisii have confirmed that some of the A.P's have been found with marked ballot papers and some even with boxes of the same stored in PNU party offices.
I think it is criminal for Michuki and Kibaki to play games with the lives of A.P's for purposes of rigging and causing mayhem on election day. There efforts will be thwarted but we need to respect the sanctity of everyone's life. These people are victims of a rotten and sick regime. The public should have sympathy on them. They are mere pawns on a much bigger game plan which will collapse like so many others before it.
adongo
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 26, 2007 19:36:34 GMT 3
Oloo
Let me add a few things
Mutua's statement is outrageous and is quite frankly a campaign document which has nothing to do with security.
First is the ridiculous innuendos about "Luo Nyanza". He can't fool anyone with that. We know it falls into the pattern of trying to allege that "here we go again with violent Luos" etc. And then the addition of Kibera in the mix was very well calculated. I am glad it has been exposed that the Kibera death was a victim of the usual mob violence reserved for muggers. How pathetic that they tried to even pin that on ODM. Busted again.
I also find it very odd that Mutua is alleging the ODM is trying to disrupt elections so that voters do not turn out in large numbers to vote and that this is supposedly an ODM rigging plan. Why would the ODM want to suppress voter turn out in their own strongholds? Does that make sense at all?
Third thing I found interesting is the admission by Mutua that it would be very difficult to introduce marked ballots into polling stations. If that is the case then why are they giving people marked ballot papers some of which as you say have been seized by members of the public? Could this lend credence to the theory that part of the plan is to cause chaos in opposition zones and suppress voter turnout at the expense of the ODM. May be that is what Mutua let slip when he talked about the ODM trying to suppress voter turnout.
Finally, Oloo, you are there on the ground, to what extent do you think the idea of Kibaki and his thugs trying to suppress voter turnout in ODM areas is likely to succeed? How do things look from that front, because that to me is the key to this puzzle.
In due time these criminals like Michuki will answer for their crimes.
adongo
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Post by politicalmaniac on Dec 26, 2007 19:45:47 GMT 3
OO/AO
Whats funny is that ODM AND THE PRESS have EVIDENCE of the nefarious Govt schemes, while Mutua is just throwing up allegations to the fact that "certain ODM LEADERS" are plotting violence.
Which leaders are these? Name them!!
And why have they NOT been brought to book?
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Post by kmdo on Dec 26, 2007 19:59:29 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 26, 2007 22:51:57 GMT 3
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Post by kingpin on Dec 26, 2007 23:00:01 GMT 3
Dearest:
The fact is that the author of the essay, Mr. Onyango Oloo, works for James Orengo and is also campaigning to get a job with Raila. Tomorrow will decide!
Kindly,
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Wuod Nyar Boro
Rock Creek Park Neighborhood
Northwest, Washington DC
email: wuodnyarboro@yahoo.comWhat an imaginative mind. Shindwe!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 26, 2007 23:16:22 GMT 3
Since it is a few minutes to 2300 hours in Nairobi, I am getting to tuck in so that I can be up bright and early to cast a vote for Raila Odinga and the MP and councilor of choice here in Constituency #001, polling station #001 in Makadara.
But let me tell you about a fascinating interview on KTN tonight.
On hand was the always erudite, brainy, articulate and crisp speaking Commissioner of Police.
He assured Kenyans tonight that voters will be safe because there will be adequate security in all polling areas. He said that the police have stringent measures in place to ensure that no violence or intimidation takes place.
He repeated that no voters would be allowed to converge closer than 400 metres to the site of a polling station. He said that the police had plans to deal with those people who intended to converge at polling stations hours before the stations opened. He cautioned that in extreme cases, police would be prepared to shoot people, in other words use lethal force. He made a point of reiterating in Kiswahili :
"Ukifanya fujo, utaona cha mtema kuni!"
When asked about the controversial deployment of 65,000 police personnel, he responded by saying that those were there to ensure security at the approximately 27,000 polling stations across the country. He said he concurred with President Kibaki's message that there were no plans by the government to rig the polls and asked aggrieved losers at the civic, parliamentary and presidential level to seek legal redress rather resorting to hooliganism. He said that the cases of the three policemen killed in Homa Bay and elsewhere on Monday were being treated as murder cases.
Adongo and others have asked me to comment on the feel on the ground on the eve of the elections.
What I can say is this:
The popular mood in most parts of the country- certainly in large parts of Nairobi is ODM with Raila eliciting what I can only describe as overwhelming support across ethnic groups, religious lines and definitely among working class, lower middle class and poor communities.
But there is also this feeling of trepidation that Kibaki and his PNU guys are determined to hang on to power by hook or crook.
Consequently, there is a heightened sense of vigilance which sometimes goes slightly overboard. For instance the SMS alleging that a bus had been intercepted in Eldoret with marked ballot papers turned out to be a hoax with no less than William Ruto calming irate ODM supporters that the bus had been examined and nothing found.
Still no one trusts the state to preside over a free and fair election.
What is remarkable however, especially here in Nairobi is the almost non-existent physical confrontation and general feeling of peace and quiet. On Monday, I happened to be at the Haile Selassie round about when ODM and PNU supporters coincidentally found themselves on the same spot. There was some good natured exchange of barbs but each convoy snaked its way to its respective venue.
The other thing is that unlike Moi, Kibaki does NOT enjoy the kind of authority, respect and trust over the disciplined, police, military and intelligence forces like his predecessor.
Most of the leakages have emanated from police officers, army personnel and especially the NSIS- something that would have been unfathomable in the Moi era especially with the Special Branch some of whose members took personally any manifestations of "dissidence". It would therefore be a long shot for Kibaki to try using the armed forces to thwart the democratic will of the Kenyan people.
In any case, even to his detractors, Mwai Kibaki the man is largely sincere when he says that he personally would acquiesce to the people's verdict on the 27th of December. In fact speculation is that should he lose the Presidential contest, he will not even bother to take up his Othaya parliamentary seat.
What is more worrying is the attitude of some of his top lieutenants who have a LOT TO LOSE and WORRY ABOUT in the event of a Raila victory.
All said and done, it is my firm conviction that Kenyan political awareness has reached such a stage that NO ONE DARES MESS WITH WANANCHI's verdict tomorrow.
11:17 pm
Wednesday, December 26, 2007
Onyango Oloo
Nairobi, Kenya
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 26, 2007 23:20:40 GMT 3
Dearest:
The fact is that the author of the essay, Mr. Onyango Oloo, works for James Orengo and is also campaigning to get a job with Raila. Tomorrow will decide!
Kindly,
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Wuod Nyar Boro
Rock Creek Park Neighborhood
Northwest, Washington DC
email: wuodnyarboro@yahoo.comWhat an imaginative mind. Shindwe! Mmmhm... I wonder why you picked on that particular response. Anywayz, you should have also included my response too: |
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Post by kingpin on Dec 26, 2007 23:27:10 GMT 3
Poor me,blame it on my small luo mind.
Anyway I vote with my coinscience,for change. CHUNGWA MOJA,MAISHA BORA.
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 26, 2007 23:38:42 GMT 3
Oloo
I think by and large I concur with you that Kenyans are probably way a head of the kimendeero games. I also think the fact that the security forces are constantly leaking info to ODM tells me the riggers have a huge problem from their own forces. In another 6 hours or so from where you are the big dance begins.
Tomorrow at this time the speculations will be over. I feel confident of an ODM victory. It is time for Kenyans to speak with their votes.
adongo
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Post by mtumzuri on Dec 27, 2007 5:05:37 GMT 3
By Onyango Oloo in NairobiI am starting the first version of this digital dispatch at around 17:23 Nairobi time, today, Wednesday, December 26, 2007. Approximately 40 minutes ago, a live press briefing presided over by chief state spinmeister Dr. Goebbels Mutua wrapped up, carried by KBC and Citizen TV. Dr. Mutua had to respond to a number of questions from the Daily Nation, Standard, BBC, Associated Press, Reuters, Kass FM and several other local and international media houses. The briefing revolved around one issue: allegations of state complicity in rigging the December 27th elections with specific reference to the controversial training and secret deployment of 65,000 Administration Police from Nairobi to polling stations in the Rift Valley, Western Province, Nyanza and Eastern province- all seen to be opposition strongholds. Some of the sizzling questions posed:
Can you comment on reports that wananchi seized 350,000 pre-marked ballot papers in Kericho?
Why were these AP personnel not equipped with any form of identification?
Why were they being deployed to act as civilians and in some cases “PNU agents”?
Can you comment on SMS messages claiming that another state-led attack on the Standard, KTN and other media houses is imminent?
Why are the government and PNU operatives claiming that a man who was killed in Kibera was a PNU activist when reports on the ground indicate that he was actually a suspected mugger who had stolen someone’s mobile phone?
Local police representatives claim they have NO KNOWLEDGE or CONNECTION to the AP deployments from Nairobi. Your reaction please.The Kibaki government spokesman was outright ludicrous in some of his responses. He suggested for instance (and this in the wake of strenuous denials by the government of the very existence of these AP troops) that the AP personnel were transported at night secretly for logistical reasons and that there was nothing really odd or weird over the fact that they were being transported in civilian buses like Citi Hoppa rather than government issue Land Rovers, Cruisers and other state owned vehicles. He also advanced the strange theory that police officers usually carry NO IDENTIFICATION (forgetting of course, that one of the reasons why they are required to wear uniforms is for such identification purposes and that each uniform has a serial number which can be traced to a specific policeman or policewoman).Using callous Orwellian newspeak, Dr. Mutua alleged that IT WAS THE OPPOSITION that had “planted” the pre-marked ballot papers seized by the wananchi in Kericho and other places.After attacking the Standard Group for their brilliant expose of the secret deployments, he charged that sections of the media were inciting the public and urged them to essentially practice self-censorship, arguing that the publication of unflattering news about the Kibaki’s regime’s rigging plans could and had led to loss of human lives. He warned darkly that individuals found to be behind the SMS alerts were in the process of being rounded up and interrogated.Observing from my living room, I noticed that he was addressing a roomful of largely skeptical members of the Fourth Estate. Here was something else that did not come up directly at Mutua’s press briefing. This, an SMS sent to me earlier in the day: Or this other message from Xmas evening (21:30 Nairobi time): . As an aside, during KTN news dispatch at 1 pm today (26th December) there was an item about Kakamega-bound travelers stranded at around Lari. Now these stories are fungu peni, in other words quite common around Christmas time. What were different are the accounts by the passengers. They all testified that the bus had “broken down” in mysterious and suspicious circumstances with the driver melting into thin air. For a big portion of the night they were surrounded and accosted by locals who were overwhelmingly PNU and Kibaki supporters who taunted them telling that there was no way a tribal slur (uncircumcised man) like Raila was ever going to be President of Kenya. They all felt very strongly that the bus company was deliberately trying to sabotage their democratic rights by ensuring they do not make it to their respective rural homesteads to cast a vote for Raila Odinga and ODM. The eye-witness accounts of these passengers gel very much with widely circulated concerns over the last three and a half weeks of a plot by PNU friendly bus and matatu owners to cripple public transport on election day. Oops. It is now around 6pm. Gotta go. I am coming back to augment this digital dispatch later…. Onyango Oloo
Nairobi, Kenya Dear Kenyans Onyango Oloo has been proven to be an unrelenting liar who hides behind technology inorder to spread fear and confusion. I am sorry to inform him that the fate of our beloved country will never be in the hands of his like. Why doesn't he tell us who he works for. We must come out of the dark ages of "i heard" if you have evidence please share it or can your rumours and lies. OO reported that the government would ensure a curfew in odm areas whar happened? did your lies catch up with you. Mtumzuri |
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 27, 2007 5:37:03 GMT 3
mtumzuri
Oh thanks so much for that great insight mtumzuri, we have all been wondering who this Onyango Oloo is. Now we know. We will be forever grateful to your majesty. Now if you don't mind, we actually have other things do discuss in this forum besides Onyango Oloo. Are you sure you didn't lose your way somewhere and ended up in the wrong place. You look awfully lost and late dear, can we help?
adongo
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Post by kamalet on Dec 27, 2007 11:30:35 GMT 3
Oloo,
It is regrettable that you have joined the cheerleaders of ODM and in the process lost all forms of objecivity that you previously had. But that is understandable when you think about the heightened tensions of the elections. Hopefully you did manage to wake up early and vote for Ndolo and Raila.
You being on the ground should surely not give you licence to lie on these forums. When you speak to predominantly ODM supporters and then come to these forums and say 'everyone in Nairobi is ODM', you do appreciate that it cannot be entirely true. I can speak of having had a drink at Nairobi West yesterday and on our table were three die-hard ODM luos, 3 Die hard PNU kikuyus and Saboat. These guys work for a garage that I helped them acquire through initial funding and they do fix and service my car. As you know, Nairobi West is a part of Langata constituency, but the mood last evening was very subdued. Even these luo friends of mine who live in Kibera wanted to leave early as the rumour had been spread about GSU patrolling the area. But during the drink, we all had a very nice laugh as we enjoyed mbuzi choma and did discuss politics. They had a genuine fear that Raila could lose Langata but they did express their hope that he would win it all. That actually would be my hope so that we can have Raila leading the official opposition.
So back to the GSU story. I informed the jamaas that the information I had was that it was true the GSU would be deployed in Kibera last night and that they would assist those who woke up early to go and vote (remember my bit on why there were people who had been slated to be at polling stations at 4.00 a.m.) and also ensure that anyone who wanted to vote actually did. So far this morning, nothing has been heard in terms of violence in Langata and I do hope that they will find Raila's name on the voters' register as it is being reported it is missing. Honestly this is a strange one for how did he manage to get his nomination through? Or could be another stunt to start off another chain of rumours that people with names starting with O are missing from the registers?
The stunts that ODM are running seem to come from a script and they are dangerous. For instance, we had Raila storm the Ngong Hills hotel yesterday after he received an SMS that something was afoot in the hotel, only to find bar patrons having a drink. But he did seem to have one media house with him when he 'stormed' the hotel.
Such stunts have been repeated in many places in Nyanza and north Rift Valley and they are all premised on rumours without any facts. What they are intended to achieve is a self belief that the elections have been rigged even when they have not been especially since it is now beleived that Kibaki will win this election.
Kenyans have turned out in their millions to vote and they firmly believe that their votes will count. They know that when they walk into a polling station, the boxes will have been sealed with their party seal to ensure nothing untoward happens and that they will verify the number of ballots against the counterfoils. That is how a decent election is run, and Kenya has done this in the past.
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 27, 2007 11:43:51 GMT 3
Oloo, It is regrettable that you have joined the cheerleaders of ODM and in the process lost all forms of objectivity that you previously had. But that is understandable when you think about the heightened tensions of the elections. Hopefully you did manage to wake up early and vote for Ndolo and Raila. You being on the ground should surely not give you licence to lie on these forums. When you speak to predominantly ODM supporters and then come to these forums and say 'everyone in Nairobi is ODM', you do appreciate that it cannot be entirely true. I can speak of having had a drink at Nairobi West yesterday and on our table were three die-hard ODM luos, 3 Die hard PNU kikuyus and Saboat. These guys work for a garage that I helped them acquire through initial funding and they do fix and service my car. As you know, Nairobi West is a part of Langata constituency, but the mood last evening was very subdued. Even these luo friends of mine who live in Kibera wanted to leave early as the rumour had been spread about GSU patrolling the area. But during the drink, we all had a very nice laugh as we enjoyed mbuzi choma and did discuss politics. They had a genuine fear that Raila could lose Langata but they did express their hope that he would win it all. That actually would be my hope so that we can have Raila leading the official opposition. So back to the GSU story. I informed the jamaas that the information I had was that it was true the GSU would be deployed in Kibera last night and that they would assist those who woke up early to go and vote (remember my bit on why there were people who had been slated to be at polling stations at 4.00 a.m.) and also ensure that anyone who wanted to vote actually did. So far this morning, nothing has been heard in terms of violence in Langata and I do hope that they will find Raila's name on the voters' register as it is being reported it is missing. Honestly this is a strange one for how did he manage to get his nomination through? Or could be another stunt to start off another chain of rumours that people with names starting with O are missing from the registers? The stunts that ODM are running seem to come from a script and they are dangerous. For instance, we had Raila storm the Ngong Hills hotel yesterday after he received an SMS that something was afoot in the hotel, only to find bar patrons having a drink. But he did seem to have one media house with him when he 'stormed' the hotel. Such stunts have been repeated in many places in Nyanza and north Rift Valley and they are all premised on rumours without any facts. What they are intended to achieve is a self belief that the elections have been rigged even when they have not been especially since it is now beleived that Kibaki will win this election. Kenyans have turned out in their millions to vote and they firmly believe that their votes will count. They know that when they walk into a polling station, the boxes will have been sealed with their party seal to ensure nothing untoward happens and that they will verify the number of ballots against the counterfoils. That is how a decent election is run, and Kenya has done this in the past. you really have no shame and not even an iota of integrity. You come to hide here and try to insinuate that Raila's name missing in Kibera may be some kind of a stunt when the Kenyan tv, KTN, which you must have watched has interviewed Raila and it has been established that not only is his name missing from the register but that of many others beginning with letters A & O. In fact none other than the ECK commissioner Mr. Tumwa is supposed to be printing a new list as we speak. We actually have a thread on this board with updates on the polls. Come there and tell us what you know about this Kibera fiasco. The rest of the stuff we will talk about in another 12 hours and there will be plenty of time to compare notes. adongo |
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Post by aeichener on Dec 27, 2007 12:19:32 GMT 3
Onyango Oloo (....) I am sorry to inform him that the fate of our beloved country will never be in the hands of his like. I am also sorry. Sorry that the future of Kenya will not be in the hands of the likes of Onyango Oloo, not even - and especially not! - if ODM wins the presidential today. Instead, it will remain in the hands of a political vampire class, in the hand of criminals, crooks and carpetbaggers. The OOs of this country have been forced underground during Moi, have been quickly sidelined - after some initial gains - during Kibaki, are already regarded as noxious and bothersome temporary allies (to be jettisoned after the elections) by ODM, and they will soon be treated as the "enemy within" if ODM wins, with its Migunas, Kosgeis, Kosgeys, Adongos and similar crooks. Alexander |
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 27, 2007 12:27:59 GMT 3
Onyango Oloo (....) I am sorry to inform him that the fate of our beloved country will never be in the hands of his like. I am also sorry. Sorry that the future of Kenya will not be in the hands of the likes of Onyango Oloo, not even - and especially not! - if ODM wins the presidential today. Instead, it will remain in the hands of a political vampire class, in the hand of criminals, crooks and carpetbaggers. The OOs of this country have been forced underground during Moi, have been quickly sidelined - after some initial gains - during Kibaki, are already regarded as noxious and bothersome temporary allies (to be jettisoned after the elections) by ODM, and they will soon be treated as the "enemy within" if ODM wins, with its Migunas, Kosgeis, Kosgeys, Adongos and similar crooks. Alexander Can you keep me out of you stupid games. I really don't have time for you right now. Don't call me names. I have never interfered with your alleged pedophile interests in Kenya or elsewhere, so leave my name out of your nonsense. If you haven't noticed I am above the age you might want to play with, please. Thank you. adongo |
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Post by aeichener on Dec 27, 2007 12:34:30 GMT 3
I have never interfered with your alleged pedophile interests in Kenya or elsewhere, so leave my name out of your nonsense. *Raises a single eyebrow* My consumptive interests are directed at chocolate, tea and wine, in this rough sequence of regularity, but not at small children. You might call me a chocolate addict though, if you wanted to point out my weakness, and I guess this is indeed one criterion that distinguishes me from you (one of many). Now be silent, creep. Alexander |
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 27, 2007 12:47:21 GMT 3
I have never interfered with your alleged pedophile interests in Kenya or elsewhere, so leave my name out of your nonsense. *Raises a single eyebrow* My consumptive interests are directed at chocolate, tea and wine, in this rough sequence of regularity, but not at small children. You might call me a chocolate addict though, if you wanted to point out my weakness, and I guess this is indeed one criterion that distinguishes me from you (one of many). Now be silent, creep. Alexander What I am telling you is not new to you is it? I don't care if you want to take it with chocolate and wine that is your business. I have absolutely no interest in you as a person in any capacity whatsoever. I would care less if you existed or not. That is all. Now if you don't mind I am actually more interested in the election going on in Kenya than in Alexander. adongo |
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Post by jaluo on Dec 27, 2007 12:57:14 GMT 3
alexanda, or whatever name you got, just for a sec, were u talking about the luos when you interned " the oo"? if its so be warned and be really afraid. thats the best tribe there is in kenya, and note this u are out of kenya because of the mois kenyattas and the kibakis, u are ejoying the winter, something you were never born to cope up with. wherever u are you wish to go home as many of your lot out there want yet you cant, if you are a kyuk, chances are you are wanted by the authorieties back home to answer some questions, come on grow up, or do you want us to ask you what you'd like to be when you grow up!??
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 27, 2007 15:28:13 GMT 3
Dear Kenyans Onyango Oloo has been proven to be an unrelenting liar who hides behind technology inorder to spread fear and confusion. I am sorry to inform him that the fate of our beloved country will never be in the hands of his like. Why doesn't he tell us who he works for. We must come out of the dark ages of "i heard" if you have evidence please share it or can your rumours and lies. OO reported that the government would ensure a curfew in odm areas whar happened? did your lies catch up with you. Mtumzuri Welcome to the Jukwaa board which is administered by the so called "unrelenting liar" called Onyango Oloo. Why in the first place are you stuck in this forum of apparent falsehoods? Are you some kind of masochist who derives pleasure from inflicting such obvious pain on yourself? More directly, are you disturbed that I will continue saying things that you would rather I left unsaid? You can yap all you want, but many of the things I convey here frequently end up on the front pages of the newspapers long after their appearance. Let me give you just one small example. Many months ago, I reported on this forum about extrajudicial killings by the police. Using my anecdotal style, I referenced it with a direct example from my own family citing the shooting deaths of my own two cousins. It has now become big news. You should understand that effective writers the world over will tell their stories in a way that the characters in them come to life, indelibe in the memory of the reader. If I wanted to I could also reveal all my sources for each story- some of them in very high places. But I deliberately choose not to, to protect these very sources. Since you have made very serious and sweeping allegations, I would now like to challenge you to pin point the so called lies by Onyango Oloo. Also it is rather tawdry to launch a personal attack on Onyango Oloo instead of dealing with the issues I raise. As to where and who I work for, that is not exactly a state secret. I am very much in the public eye and therefore you do not have to fish underground to satisfy your morbid, twisted and totally misplaced curiosity.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 27, 2007 15:34:21 GMT 3
My Fellow Nairobian:
Why do you twist my words when these are still clearly intact on this very thread?
Where did I say that "everyone in Nairobi is in ODM"? Just show me.
It reminds of the other time when you deliberately misrepresented what I said about Funyula.
In any case, I neither invented Dr. Mutua's press briefing nor did I cook up his press statement, or for that matter the SMS doing the rounds in Kenya and sentiments expressed by ordinary wananchi.
Please feel free to call me more names.
Onyango Oloo
Nairobi, Kenya
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Post by dola121945 on Dec 27, 2007 16:45:34 GMT 3
Couldn't SLEEP A WINK CAUSE OF THE excitement. Spoke to my mom early this morning and she had taken the grandies from dala to go vote and all seems to be well, I hear the 3 piece vote is being carried through so we shall wait and see. Also confirmed was that Raila's name was not on the register but another list was to be printed, we'll also wait on that outcome.
As I type I am preparing for the trip home tomorrow, and will definately make it for the inauguration ceremony and all other celebrations. Those on the ground; thank you for keeping us updated, we are praying for the best outcome as always, chungwa moja maisha bora.
Later!
Dola.
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Post by adongo23456 on Dec 27, 2007 16:59:36 GMT 3
Couldn't SLEEP A WINK CAUSE OF THE excitement. Spoke to my mom early this morning and she had taken the grandies from dala to go vote and all seems to be well, I hear the 3 piece vote is being carried through so we shall wait and see. Also confirmed was that Raila's name was not on the register but another list was to be printed, we'll also wait on that outcome. As I type I am preparing for the trip home tomorrow, and will definately make it for the inauguration ceremony and all other celebrations. Those on the ground; thank you for keeping us updated, we are praying for the best outcome as always, chungwa moja maisha bora. Later! Dola. How is Mwanga doing at your place any updates? Any idea who your next M.P will be? Orengo is my man there but you never know! |
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