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Post by phil on Mar 8, 2010 14:20:38 GMT 3
President Mwai Kibaki has just BANNED cabinet ministers from travelling overseas so as to allow them participate in the constitutional debate.
Never mind that cabinet itself has not met for more than a month due to disagreement on handling corruption among the coalition partners.
The ministers themselves are available to attend party retreats in Naivasha but they are never seen on parliament's front bench.
The president further directed that government and parastatals source for goods and services from Kenyan manufacturers - as if this was not a policy of the Public Procurement Act....which makes it virtually impossible for any young Kenyan entrepreneur to win a government contract, let alone your kawaida gikomba carpenter to supply sofas for the waiting room of Dr. Mutua..
Talk about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
NEW PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIONS ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
His Excellency the President has directed that all Public offices (including Civil Service and Parastatals) purchase Kenyan- made furniture and other associated items, so as to support the growth of the manufacturing industry and enhance employment creation. The Government is the biggest spender in our country and this directive will ensure that 500 million shillings will be pumped into the local economy.
Government officials are encouraged to buy high quality furniture and other locally made items, directly from Jua Kali artisans, manufacturers and shops and to avoid using middlemen who inflate the cost of the items. It is important that tax payers’ money be used diligently and value for money achieved.
Procurement officers who undertake purchases that rip off the Government and tax payers’ money will be held accountable for those purchases.
In addition, in a bid to enhance efficiency, transparency and to reduce corruption, the President has also directed that Government offices adopt open-space type of configuration. This will encourage sharing of resources and enable all offices to be aware of all transactions being undertaken in public offices.
The Head of Public Service has issued circulars to this effect and no exceptions to these rules will be allowed.
The Government is keen to ensure that the country gets a new constitution as per the set schedule. Therefore, His Excellency the President has stopped all Ministers and Assistant Ministers from travel outside the so as to allow them to be available for parliamentary debate on the draft constitution.
These directives take effect immediately.
Dr. Alfred N. Mutua, EBS
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS SECRETARY &
GOVERNMENT SPOKESPERSON
6th March, 2010
Published by:
Office of Government Spokesperson
KICC Building, 3rd Floor
8 Harambee Avenue
P.O.Box 45617-00100
Nairobi - Kenya
Tel: +254-020-2240488
+254-020-2223521
Fax: +254-020-240600
Email: comms@comms.go.ke
SMS (Celtel/Safaricom): 2888
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Post by emkei on Mar 8, 2010 14:29:17 GMT 3
I support the president on this one. I hope the PM and VP will whip their subordinates to follow this position from their boss.
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Post by roughrider on Mar 8, 2010 14:48:39 GMT 3
This directive is misplaced because all travel by ministers is approved anyway. Secondly, ‘banning’ is not clever. There must be exceptions in case something critical comes up. Thirdly, keeping people in the country does not mean they will spend time debating the constitution.
Does Kibaki want to show, he is working? Why send Mutua to say this?
This might have something to do with ICC.
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Post by phil on Mar 8, 2010 15:04:09 GMT 3
This directive is misplaced because all travel by ministers is approved anyway. Secondly, ‘banning’ is not clever. There must be exceptions in case something critical comes up. Thirdly, keeping people in the country does not mean they will spend time debating the constitution. Does Kibaki want to show, he is working? Why send Mutua to say this? This might have something to do with ICC. rr, this is why I called it knee-jerk. I have a hunch it had something to do with ICC but even then, the dreaded visa bans still haunt most of those PNU mandarins. No less than 20 ministers and high ranking government officials and businessmen still have their passports blacklisted by EU and US. Recall that even Muthaura could only manage South Africa for his delicate heart surgery - fully paid for by the state, while Tuju had to go to Australia for you-know-what. London has been the favourite destination for those seeking medical treatment in government. |
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Post by tactician on Mar 8, 2010 15:40:42 GMT 3
This directive is misplaced because all travel by ministers is approved anyway. Secondly, ‘banning’ is not clever. There must be exceptions in case something critical comes up. Thirdly, keeping people in the country does not mean they will spend time debating the constitution. Does Kibaki want to show, he is working? Why send Mutua to say this? This might have something to do with ICC. rr, this is why I called it knee-jerk. I have a hunch it had something to do with ICC but even then, the dreaded visa bans still haunt most of those PNU mandarins. No less than 20 ministers and high ranking government officials and businessmen still have their passports blacklisted by EU and US. Recall that even Muthaura could only manage South Africa for his delicate heart surgery - fully paid for by the state, while Tuju had to go to Australia for you-know-what. London has been the favourite destination for those seeking medical treatment in government. Can Raila ban ministers from travelling abroad? I await to hear from Miguna on how Raila & Kibaki are equal! |
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Post by Horth on Mar 8, 2010 17:21:40 GMT 3
My thoughts about this directive is that, as I had posted elsewhere, Kibaki only does things which benefit himself or his immediate family. He just wouldn't do anything for anyone at anytime and that's a given.
Equally, I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the visa bans. Like I said, he doesn't care about that, for him, trivial matter.
He wants to have this new constitution passed so badly he can practically taste it and believe me, it's not for our benefit but for his.
The main problem I have is trying to figure out exactly what Kibaki is planning on doing in 2012. That he's staying is also a given. Just how he intends to do it is what's driving my curiosity.
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Post by kamalet on Mar 8, 2010 18:57:30 GMT 3
I think criticism for the sake of it is naive and tends to expose those that do for the sake of it. When Kibaki came out making a case for carbon credits, several people may have been surprised that Adongo praised that action.
It is the same thing where he announces that ministers will not be travelling out of the country until the new constiution is passed. If anyone wants to say that is knee jerk reaction, then naivety seems to rule the ropost in some places!
It is ridiculous to add on the list of knee jerk reactions the directive that office furniture must be Kenyan made.......sometimes I just want to give up on some Kenyans!
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Post by shifta on Mar 8, 2010 19:59:26 GMT 3
No Raila can not. His political IQ is not below room temparature's,
as you-know-who's, who is an anal fascination with trying to prove his political "manhood".
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Post by Horth on Mar 8, 2010 20:00:52 GMT 3
I think criticism for the sake of it is naive and tends to expose those that do for the sake of it. When Kibaki came out making a case for carbon credits, several people may have been surprised that Adongo praised that action. It is the same thing where he announces that ministers will not be travelling out of the country until the new constiution is passed. If anyone wants to say that is knee jerk reaction, then naivety seems to rule the ropost in some places! It is ridiculous to add on the list of knee jerk reactions the directive that office furniture must be Kenyan made.......sometimes I just want to give up on some Kenyans! I personally think the directive on the furniture is completely moronic and shows just how stupid Kibaki thinks we all are. This from a guy who turns a blind eye to the massive corruption which is going on under his watch. As we all should know, the corruption buck stops with El Presidente Kibaki, as he willing and happily trashed the NARA. I mean, this absolutely foolish directive from a guy who uses his office (which he in turn stole) to protect people who have stolen billions[/u] of our money and yet he now pretends, yes pretends to care about saving us, the poor little taxpayers, 500 million? Or maybe he wants to let his friends get their slimy little paws on that 500 million? And you think we should drop down to our knees and praise him? This would be extremely hilarious if it was a movie. But it's not. |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 8, 2010 20:08:13 GMT 3
Horth
Please go ahead and cut off your know so as to spite your face!!
Kibaki is corrupt, so let us also make the jua kali artisans at Kamukunji jobless until he starts fighting it!!!
That how silly the argument is!!
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 8, 2010 20:51:45 GMT 3
[quote author=phil board=general thread=3910 post=42724 time=1268047238]
President Mwai Kibaki has just BANNED cabinet ministers from travelling overseas so as to allow them participate in the constitutional debate.
Never mind that cabinet itself has not met for more than a month due to disagreement on handling corruption among the coalition partners.
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Yet another example of how disconnected this idiot from othaya, nyeri is.
Whats the urgency in this?
Is he saying that Ministers cant chew gum and walk?
This mafian tribalist kegouya loves the mundane.
you will never hear him issue directives on Mau, or AF scandal or the Arturs who used to poke his daughter.
nah.
It has to be kitu aina maana!
Cant wait for this guy to make an exit.
Hana ata legacy positive, he has left destruction , death and despair.
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Post by phil on Mar 8, 2010 20:56:34 GMT 3
Kamale,
One of the functions of the Public Procurement and Disposal Act of 2005 is to "facilitate the promotion of local industry and economic development". It is there in black and white. So this purported directive by Kibaki is all hogwash.
Ati government to buy locally made furniture? How laughable. because it will never be practiced. Even Uchumi and Nakumatt do not stock local furniture.
Look at it this way. KCC is deliberately going down because watu wa PNU flooded the local market with imported powder milk. We know a top PNU Minister is also the leading private dairy processor. The same story goes when it comes to fertilizer, maize and sugar. It is the surest and quickest means of making campaign money for them.
Kibaki should spare us his knee-jerk directives. We do not need them.
Regrettably, cabinet ministers and their close associates have formed trading companies which they have ensured get awarded more than 90% of all tenders.
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Post by job on Mar 8, 2010 21:31:34 GMT 3
'Banning' all foreign travel for Ministers & Assts is all about securing a parliamentary cushion during the next 30 days of constitution debate (expected to be acrimonious).
Even if Kibaki tethers Ministers and Assistants to parliament, I don't think it will secure him the 2/3 majority vote to make the amendments he wants specifically on transition.
This is about securing Kibaki more powers during the post-referendum transition period.
He wants to use his appointees to secure him unilateral powers to shape all new constitutional institutions/commissions/offices formed, but Kenyans having witnessed first hand what Kibaki's unilateralism bequethed us in 2007 (with appointments in the electoral commission & judges in the constitutional courts) will never allow that.
The transition process MUST be a joint mission of both coalition partners for it to be acceptable.
All Kenyans and MPs must insist on this reasonable stance.
The CoE must stand firm and be ready for showdown with the PSC and a full Parliament.
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Post by kamalet on Mar 8, 2010 21:54:26 GMT 3
Kamale, One of the functions of the Public Procurement and Disposal Act of 2005 is to "facilitate the promotion of local industry and economic development". It is there in black and white. So this purported directive by Kibaki is all hogwash. Ati government to buy locally made furniture? How laughable. because it will never be practiced. Even Uchumi and Nakumatt do not stock local furniture. Look at it this way. KCC is deliberately going down because watu wa PNU flooded the local market with imported powder milk. We know a top PNU Minister is also the leading private dairy processor. The same story goes when it comes to fertilizer, maize and sugar. It is the surest and quickest means of making campaign money for them. Kibaki should spare us his knee-jerk directives. We do not need them. Regrettably, cabinet ministers and their close associates have formed trading companies which they have ensured get awarded more than 90% of all tenders. The Public Officers' Ethic Act (or whatever they call it) provides for people in public service not to steal from us, so any purported fight against graft by either the PM or the president is all HOGWASH!! That unfortunately is how hollow your argument is! The fact that the law provides for something and it is not being done calls for someone to take action!!! JobIf we go by your argument that Kibaki is trying to shore up troops to enable him control the process, then you should perhaps know that he only has 40 of such ministers on his side whilst the PM has the other 40!! This again is another hollow argument! Kamale |
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Post by Horth on Mar 8, 2010 22:12:48 GMT 3
Kibaki is corrupt, so let us also make the jua kali artisans at Kamukunji jobless until he starts fighting it!!! That how silly the argument is!! Kamale, Have you thought that maybe, just maybe, the massive corruption condoned by Kenyatta, Moi, and now Kibaki are responsible for making, in your own words, "the jua kali artisans at Kamukunji jobless"? These three "leaders" have for long pursued an economic model that leaves the majority of Kenyans jobless and hungry. It can’t and won’t lead us anywhere and if, after 47 years of independence failure, things just seem to be getting worse, shouldn’t we ask questions? Demand proper answers and not naive knee-jerk reactions? Blaming me for pointing it out, even though it may make you feel better, just ain't the solution and actually deflects from where the problems lies. Everything points toward the center.[/b] |
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Post by job on Mar 8, 2010 22:15:15 GMT 3
JobIf we go by your argument that Kibaki is trying to shore up troops to enable him control the process, then you should perhaps know that he only has 40 of such ministers on his side whilst the PM has the other 40!! This again is another hollow argument! Kamale Hollowness is exhibited when you can't discern and deduce simple arguments. With chronic absenteeism by Ministers and Assistants who often use the excuse of foreign travel, Kibaki is simply attempting to tether them to parliament. It is also hollow to assume Kibaki only has 40 Ministers & Assts loyal to him, when everyone knows there are Ministers and Assistants from the ODM side (the likes of William Ruto, Isaac Ruto, Charles Keter etc) falling over themselves to offer him pro-bono services. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 8, 2010 22:36:14 GMT 3
Folks
I think the gist of the directive on procurement is fine but like every body is saying it is just a gimmick. I don't think these institutions are going to pin this directive on their walls and remember them everyday. Remember the presidential directive that 30% of jobs be reserved for women. It was not worth the piece of paper it was written on because their was no mechanism to ensure it works.
The same with this one on furniture. Issuing a directive makes no difference. What you do is come out with a solid mechanism. Here in Toronto they do it very well because small business went up in arms since they were not getting any tenders from the billions of dollars in City tenders. What the city did was first to issue a budget limit requiring all departments to have 30% or so of the tenders go to small businesses. Then they set up a system where in all areas of interest companies apply to be included in the pool of potential suppliers or service providers. Every company has to meet certain requirements in terms of capacity, quality and competence. They also have very strict conflict of interest requirements. Then it is game on and the city reviews the success of that policy from time to time.
Now Kibaki issuing a gimmick directive with no plan is actually a good recipe for the big boys to do the maize move where the thieves simply set up fake companies and lined their pockets. You can be sure some big boys are already setting furniture shops in their back yards.
On the Lock up for ministers job has a point. We have had this argument in another thread endlessly. The bottom line is Kibaki needs 148 M.Ps to make amendments to the Draft. It is practically impossible. The other option is the PSC/CoE meeting and recommendations which is like jumping down a pit latrine and thinking you are going to come out clean. Not possible either.
So if Kibaki can get some ODM ministers and assistant ministers to help him get the 2/3 requirement he will take it. I doubt it will work. At the end of the day Kibaki is going to have to go for minimum changes on the Draft and live with what comes out.
adongo
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Post by enigma on Mar 9, 2010 1:27:16 GMT 3
President Mwai Kibaki has just BANNED cabinet ministers from travelling overseas so as to allow them participate in the constitutional debate. Never mind that cabinet itself has not met for more than a month due to disagreement on handling corruption among the coalition partners. The ministers themselves are available to attend party retreats in Naivasha but they are never seen on parliament's front bench. The president further directed that government and parastatals source for goods and services from Kenyan manufacturers - as if this was not a policy of the Public Procurement Act....which makes it virtually impossible for any young Kenyan entrepreneur to win a government contract, let alone your kawaida gikomba carpenter to supply sofas for the waiting room of Dr. Mutua.. Talk about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. NEW PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIONS ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS His Excellency the President has directed that all Public offices (including Civil Service and Parastatals) purchase Kenyan- made furniture and other associated items, so as to support the growth of the manufacturing industry and enhance employment creation. The Government is the biggest spender in our country and this directive will ensure that 500 million shillings will be pumped into the local economy. Government officials are encouraged to buy high quality furniture and other locally made items, directly from Jua Kali artisans, manufacturers and shops and to avoid using middlemen who inflate the cost of the items. It is important that tax payers’ money be used diligently and value for money achieved. Procurement officers who undertake purchases that rip off the Government and tax payers’ money will be held accountable for those purchases. In addition, in a bid to enhance efficiency, transparency and to reduce corruption, the President has also directed that Government offices adopt open-space type of configuration. This will encourage sharing of resources and enable all offices to be aware of all transactions being undertaken in public offices. The Head of Public Service has issued circulars to this effect and no exceptions to these rules will be allowed. The Government is keen to ensure that the country gets a new constitution as per the set schedule. Therefore, His Excellency the President has stopped all Ministers and Assistant Ministers from travel outside the so as to allow them to be available for parliamentary debate on the draft constitution. These directives take effect immediately. Dr. Alfred N. Mutua, EBS
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS SECRETARY &
GOVERNMENT SPOKESPERSON6th March, 2010 Published by: Office of Government Spokesperson KICC Building, 3rd Floor 8 Harambee Avenue P.O.Box 45617-00100 Nairobi - Kenya Tel: +254-020-2240488 +254-020-2223521 Fax: +254-020-240600 Email: comms@comms.go.ke SMS (Celtel/Safaricom): 2888 I support the directive on furniture. A lot of dosh is spent on importing it from Malaysia when good quality stuff can be sourced in Kenya for a fraction of the prices in the forner. Question is where the savings will go. |
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Post by merkeju on Mar 9, 2010 2:56:43 GMT 3
Kibaki's action is not about the new constitution,its about showing off,after ODM publicly complained about the president behaviour towards the prime minister during the opening of parliament and after the Ruto Ongeri suspension,the ODM brigade reminding Kibaki that he dint win the elections and both share power equally with the prime minister he had to prove a point,what a moron.
Did he consult with the prime minister about the order,we still have ODM ministers in the government,the last i read is the prime minister is to supervise and coordinate the ministries.What will stop this fellows from hiding in the toilet when voting is taking place or will the toilet be banned also,just wondering.
Is Kibaki reading the same script as Mugabe,is this what is coming to ODM,reading from PNU or PDM behaviour there is no way that Kibaki will ever change for the better,its going to be rough and we should be ready.
Mugabe cuts MDC powers
HARARE, Monday
Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe has courted a fresh crisis in his shaky coalition government by stripping ministers from Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai’s party of their powers.
President Mugabe, Mr Tsvangirai and Deputy Prime Minister Arthur Mutambara were expected to address the latest dispute during their traditional meeting today.
But Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) ministers have been expressing their disgruntlement in public.According to Statutory Instrument 62 of 2010 gazetted on Thursday, Mr Mugabe strengthened the roles of Zanu PF ministers in the government where power must be shared equally.
At least four ministers from the MDC formations were left without any Acts of Parliament to administer, while one Zanu PF minister presides over 94 Acts.
MDC secretary general and Finance Minister Tendai Biti said they would not recognise the gazette, as it had not passed through proper Cabinet processes.
“Our view as a party is that the issue of allocation of mandates is not somebody’s unilateral right,” said Mr Biti.
“It is an executive process whose matrix is shared between the President and Prime Minister.
Castrating other ministers
“This business of castrating other ministers cannot happen.”
MDC spokesperson, Mr Nelson Chamisa, who was one of the biggest victims said the move was an attempt by Zanu PF to make him “a minister in name without any responsibilities”. He said the move was against the spirit and letter of the Global Political Agreement (GPA), which led to the formation of the inclusive government where Zanu PF and the two MDCs share ministries.
“The insinuation is that it is the gazetting of a Zanu PF exclusive arrangement where all and everything is taken to Zanu PF,” said Mr Chamisa who is also the Minister of Information and Communication Technology.
The embattled leader also seized the administration of the controversial Interception of Communication Act, which would give him powers spy on emails of ordinary Zimbabweans.
The re-allocation of ministerial mandates came hardly a few weeks after President Mugabe’s office instructed ministers to stop reporting to the Prime Minister. Instead they were ordered to report to Vice Presidents Joice Mujuru and Mr John Nkomo both from Zanu PF.
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Post by nereah on Mar 9, 2010 10:45:02 GMT 3
phil & all,
i take a relativist view of this development and do so with the third eye.
as i point out in my thread siasa moto moto------- for which radio citizen's newscast concured by calling the development joto la siasa and the standard affirms with their headline story today------- this is kibaki at his best--pulling all stops. i think odm now has kibaki's pnu where they relish most.
in football parlance, we would call this a grudge match. details shortly in the thread, siasa moto moto.
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