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Post by phil on Mar 17, 2011 8:51:18 GMT 3
The cheque books are now officially opened!
Moses Kuria announces that:
It is anyone's guess why the IDPs will have a closed door deliberation for a whole day before 'briefing' the media at 3pm.
Like the Njuri Ncheke elders two days ago, what will be announced by the so-called IDP leaders is that they support a local mechanism to try the perpetrators of the 2008 PEV and that the ICC has been working in cahoots with some local leaders to deny their competitors a chance to compete for presidency in 2012.
While not entirely surprising, PNU have now sunk to an all time low. They have hired crowds to attend their political rallies, hired squatters to pose as Mau forest evictees, hired peasants and used them as human shields, hired women groups to attend national day celebrations at Nyayo Stadium, the list is endless.
Every other Kenyan wants impunity kings tried at the Hague, and the IDP's themselves are demonstrating and blocking the Nairobi - Nakuru road crying for justice and demanding to be resettled.
Now the PNU has hired people claiming to be IDP leaders to a meeting in Nakuru, paid them some allowances so that they can make certain political pronouncement that will not help their resettlement.
IDP's are once again being used as political pawns.
Shindwe kabisa PNU, shindwe kabisa Uhuru Kenyatta.
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Post by mzee on Mar 17, 2011 11:24:54 GMT 3
Let him rent these guys.
The real IDP´s will tell him off. Apart from that, I really dont see how this meeting will hep his murder case at the ICC. The guy is going down. Apende asipende.
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Post by kamalet on Mar 17, 2011 11:38:24 GMT 3
Phil
What is this desperation to have akina Uhuru locked up at whatever cost? I guess if the IDPs want to support him, they are within their rights and apart from the dead, they are the remaining victims of PEV. You and I are not and it is nothing but being pretentious and crying a lot more louder than the bereaved.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 17, 2011 11:54:36 GMT 3
ODM-Raila is really scared of UK in all spheres .
Btw Phill those I.D.P.S. really appreciate and love U.K. for coming to their aid during that period of P.E.V.
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Post by phil on Mar 17, 2011 11:56:15 GMT 3
Phil What is this desperation to have akina Uhuru locked up at whatever cost? I guess if the IDPs want to support him, they are within their rights and apart from the dead, they are the remaining victims of PEV. You and I are not and it is nothing but being pretentious and crying a lot more louder than the bereaved. Whatever cost Kamale? Did we not watch the same people (now accused) pave the path to ICC themselves? What has suddenly changed? And by any chance, will this at Stem Hotel meeting include in its agenda to discuss the daily tear gassing of women IDPs in Gilgil and Voi by police? Or will it consider to fundraise bail money for those 20 IDPs currently being held at Naivasha GK Prison for taking part in an illegal demonstration? That is precisely how misguided this meeting is. Hired crowds! |
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Post by phil on Mar 17, 2011 12:15:57 GMT 3
ODM-Raila is really scared of UK in all spheres . Btw Phill those I.D.P.S. really appreciate and love U.K. for coming to their aid during that period of P.E.V. Really? After enjoying Uhuru's five course luncheon here:  Those IDP leaders will head back to their tattered tents here:  The long rains are just setting in now, and this is the fcuking third year of being refugees in their own country with Uhuru serving as finance minister and DPM. |
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Post by boyengo on Mar 17, 2011 12:23:05 GMT 3
I have made these comments on this thread:http://jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5156 and I still reitarate here that the ground has significantly shifted in the past few weeks and Kenyans being a docile populace,nothing surprises at all and therefore whether they are hired or on their own volition the fact remains that this ICC thing has divided the country vibaya tu sana!!
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Post by mzee on Mar 17, 2011 18:35:50 GMT 3
Phil What is this desperation to have akina Uhuru locked up at whatever cost? I guess if the IDPs want to support him, they are within their rights and apart from the dead, they are the remaining victims of PEV. You and I are not and it is nothing but being pretentious and crying a lot more louder than the bereaved. I think that Uhuru should be locked up and Kenyans thrown away. Not because he is a presidential candidate as you love to say but due to the heinous crimes he committed. Im not celebrating his would be lock up. I just pity him for having been used, he had a good future as the permanent representative of Gatunda people. Now the one who used him (lame duck) is trying all manner of stupid stuff to stop Ocampo. Its as if he deliberately wants to land Uhuru behind bars. So its only today that Uhuru remembered that there are some people called IDPS in Kenya? Where has he been? Its too late in the day for Uhuru to make amends on the IDP issue. I believe that he is trying to use this as part of his defense. |
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Post by einstein on Mar 17, 2011 18:47:32 GMT 3
Let Uhuru, Ruto and Muthaura get locked up for 30 years each, period. The other 3 can each be kicked in the butt with a warning never to try that sh!t again.
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 17, 2011 19:40:34 GMT 3
I hope the IDP's go and take over his large acres as squatters, this guy is playing with their lifes what else does Uhuru Kenyatta have under his sleeves, since he can't buy the ICC judges? or has he been trying through his emissaries? Ok the end is near for him it is time he just went to defend his case at the ICC if indeed he believes that he is "INNOCENT" though actions speak louder than words, Uhuru Kenyatta's behavior shows GUILTY AS CHARGED.. Kenyans were not blind then neither are they blind now of forgotten the heinous crimes committed that led to deaths of thousands of innocent Kenyans.. LET HIM BRIBE THEM WITH THE SAME MONEY his father JOMO KENYATTA STOLE FROM THE IDP'S it is such a vicious cycles.. didn't the MAU MAU veterans and their families get the same raw deal from Kenyatta SR?
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Post by toddo on Mar 17, 2011 19:57:26 GMT 3
I have made these comments on this thread:http://jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5156 and I still reitarate here that the ground has significantly shifted in the past few weeks and Kenyans being a docile populace,nothing surprises at all and therefore whether they are hired or on their own volition the fact remains that this ICC thing has divided the country vibaya tu sana!! Boyengo. Everyone saw what happened in 2007/08 and nobody wants to see a repeat of that. Anyone can choose who he wants to support but eventually Kenya will sort itself out. We know that before any elections, there are always divisions. However, I believe that the tide is shifting towards more Kenyans having a perspective beyond simply following a tribal leader. We all owe it to our country and posterity to "do the right thing" The onus is on those supporting impunity to let the ICC process go through its due course. By using every opportunity they get to waste taxpayers money, lie to the international community and Kenyans that the Ocampo six are innocent bla bla bla.... they are simply antagonizing Kenyans. Those of us who have stood for justice for all from the days of Moi will not let them do so. And it does not matter who is committing these injustices. We shall call them out without fear. Moi used similar threats and we know what happened in 1992 and 1997. Lets remember that those who are now united for deferral were the same communities fighting against each other ruthlessly. The root causes of why they have been killing each other are yet to be dealt with. Instead, politicians are using them as pawns to escape ICC and jostle for positions. The people will eventually see through all these and I know the perceived divisions will be temporary. I am also not unrealistic to the deep rooted tribalist influences and challenges that many Kenyans still suffer from. We now have a constitution and as we enact and implement it, hopefully things will change. It will take a long time to have a truly cohesive Kenya but it will take much longer if we allow impunity within our midst. My advice to UK and the other Ocampo 6 is to resign, concentrate on building their defense case and hopefully they can save their faces. Kwa sasa, all the yelling, strategies wont help. Kenyans should move on. And we shall! |
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Post by b6k on Mar 17, 2011 20:27:47 GMT 3
I honestly find it hard to believe that Kenyans are still falling for this same old ODM-PNU tripe. They are nothing but 2 sides of the same battered coin that needs to be replaced with e-money.
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Post by gemagema on Mar 17, 2011 21:21:08 GMT 3
Its the end of the day. Press Briefing Wapi?
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Post by kamalet on Mar 17, 2011 21:24:21 GMT 3
Phil What is this desperation to have akina Uhuru locked up at whatever cost? I guess if the IDPs want to support him, they are within their rights and apart from the dead, they are the remaining victims of PEV. You and I are not and it is nothing but being pretentious and crying a lot more louder than the bereaved. Whatever cost Kamale? Did we not watch the same people (now accused) pave the path to ICC themselves? What has suddenly changed? And by any chance, will this at Stem Hotel meeting include in its agenda to discuss the daily tear gassing of women IDPs in Gilgil and Voi by police? Or will it consider to fundraise bail money for those 20 IDPs currently being held at Naivasha GK Prison for taking part in an illegal demonstration? That is precisely how misguided this meeting is. Hired crowds! Phil If you wish to know...Orengo should stop being a professional mourner where he only addresses Kenyans at funerals rather than at this his office. If Orengo had found the land to be bought for the IDPs, you crocodile tears would be understandable. The IDPs in Gilgil are poor kikuyus who are trying to con their way to free land after they were displaces from their farm jobs in RV by ODM supporting warriors. Now tell me why they will not celebrate Uhuru who may just land them some shamba if Orengo can move his black ass. |
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 17, 2011 21:59:50 GMT 3
The so called IDP leaders are free to express their opinion.
But at the end of the day it wont change a thing. If the mighty weight of the PNU half of the Govt imeshindwa kabisa to stop the ICC train, then its futile for these guys to fight the same dead end fight on behalf of jomo jnr
At the end of the day there are several things to be asked
-Why are the IDPs still in camps? Why arent they going back to their farms in RV
-Why are the IDPs still in camp yet jomo jnr is sitting on the money meant to resettle them?
-Why are the IDPs getting shafted by esta mirugi, who tells them they have no choice but to settle on land full of stones and unfertile beach sand?
The IDP "leaders" will at the end go back to the white tent shacks where their "flock" live in misery. What will these leaders tell them then?
I would love to be the fly on the wall in those conversations kie kie kie
And puleeze jomo jnr never helped the IDPs by being part and parcel of the gang that stole the election. jomo jnr instead gave impetus to the pent up fury of those dispossessed by kina jomo snr and kipkorios to be vented. And vent they did.
And if jomo jnr thought that his organizing of revenge attacks on innocents would be a boon for his career, my goodness how has that turned out? ;D ;D
So stealing the election has been a loose - loose - loose propostion for jomo jnr and the mafiya.
They lost any legitimacy to office, the best one can say is that its not known who "Won". But We know for sure who stole it though (the bloody mafiya wa mt kenya ;D ;D ;D).
The human cost to their own supporters was unimaginable and something that will haunt them forever.
Their own personal freedom is now at risk.
So, again was it worth stealing, the election of 2007 - ;D ;D
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Post by phil on Mar 18, 2011 13:16:33 GMT 3
As predicted, the IDP 'Leaders' have resolved to support the deferral campaign and condemned ICC Prosecutor for not consulting them before applying for the charges.
Oh boy....The main message is home, but remember every man has his price. Uhuru found theirs.
The so called IDP Leaders also 'appealed' for government to speed up resettlement and allow those who want to resettle elsewhere other than their original homes to do so.
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Post by owuor on Mar 18, 2011 13:31:28 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Mar 18, 2011 17:57:40 GMT 3
Owuor This thread is about Uhuru and his rented IDPs. If you feel your digression is worthy of attention or discussion, why not start a fresh thread instead of polluting this one raising irrelevant issues? Remember this? What a shoking revelations. The PEV myth has been shattered. Only the army committed all the heinous murders and looting. Kenyan civilians are and have been peace loving. You can take this leak to court as enough evidence to send the army personnel to the guillotine. Owuor
Your unprovoked sarcasm is both irrelevant and unintelligent. For you to constantly try to rubbish each post on Jukwaa without adding any value in terms of thought shows some bankruptcy on your part. When are you ever going to share anything insightful in Jukwaa?
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As we digest the wikileaks, let's also wait and see exactly what Ocampo trials has in store for us instead of falling this irritating habit of trying to derail threads with irrelevant comments.I think it applies here too! |
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Post by phil on Mar 18, 2011 18:12:31 GMT 3
As Moses Kuria joined IDP leaders in their press conference to condemn ICC and its prosecutor, ICPC and KHRC officials have spend the whole afternoon camped at Naivasha Prison Remand seeking the release of the 22 IDPs arrested on thursday week after holding a demonstration.
The two organizations paid the Bails of the charged IDPs - whose crime is demonstrating against their continued stay at temporary shelters in Gilgil while the V-P and group spend millions of tax payer funds shuttling the world capitals.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 18, 2011 20:16:14 GMT 3
As Moses Kuria joined IDP leaders in their press conference to condemn ICC and its prosecutor, ICPC and KHRC officials have spend the whole afternoon camped at Naivasha Prison Remand seeking the release of the 22 IDPs arrested on thursday week after holding a demonstration. The two organizations paid the Bails of the charged IDPs - whose crime is demonstrating against their continued stay at temporary shelters in Gilgil while the V-P and group spend millions of tax payer funds shuttling the world capitals. The mafiya Govt arresting its OWN IDPs, folks who are IDPs courtesy of their stealing the election. I still dont understand why its illegal to demonstrate against the mafiya run Govt in Kenya!! |
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Post by phil on Mar 19, 2011 10:27:12 GMT 3
Here's Uhuru's handiwork. A little too late, a little too expensive. Victims of chaos tell Ocampo to keep offThe IOC reports Mama Ngina has authorised the use of family wealth to sanitize Uhuru's image for another stab at the presidency, and part of these funds have been put into good use. Hiring a group of desperate IDPs to condemn the only route IDPs have towards justice. |
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Post by phil on Mar 20, 2011 20:49:37 GMT 3
From PNU spokesman to IDP spokesman  Moses Kuria, (centre), of Haki Nyumbani accompanied by more than 120 IDPs chairmen addresses the Press in Nakuru. [PHOTO: BONIFACE THUKU] |
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Post by commes on Mar 21, 2011 15:39:56 GMT 3
From PNU spokesman to IDP spokesman Moses Kuria, (centre), of Haki Nyumbani accompanied by more than 120 IDPs chairmen addresses the Press in Nakuru. [PHOTO: BONIFACE THUKU] I am convinced beyond reasonable doubt that this is the face of the Intended Deferral Plan (IDP) Spokesman. |
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