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Post by phil on May 8, 2011 13:32:39 GMT 3
Fuel shortage blunders aside, the impending cabinet reshuffle is taking longer than expected.
While PNU want Ruto re-appointed back to cabinet ASAP, rumours are that Raila Odinga has expressly informed Kibaki that Ruto is no longer the ODM choice for cabinet and that he will be replaced by another MP from Rift Valley. Not just because Ruto has fallen out of political favour with ODM, but also because of the fact Ruto is among six Kenyans currently facing a possible indictment by the ICC for serious crimes against Kenyan civilians.
On the PNU side, is it true that Uhuru Kenyatta has refused to step aside from his DPM and Finance Ministry portfolios and that Kibaki has got no guts to sack him despite pressure from donors and development partners who have refused to engage with the ICC suspect?
While the Prime Minister is said to have already finalised his ODM side of the reshuffle, the PNU side are said to be caught in a quagmire with sources intimating that Head of Civil Service submitted his resignation months ago but Kibaki refused to accept it while other sources say Uhuru Kenyatta has declined to voluntarily resign thus being seen as causing a serious impediment to government business. Could Kibaki be ready to drop Uhuru and retain Muthaura?
So severe is the issues of cabinet reshuffle vis ICC trials that to date, cabinet has met only 3 times since December 2010 when Ocampo named the six suspects. And in those three meetings, the business conducted was far from significant. In the meantime, president continue to meet individual ministers intermittently and only to conduct urgent matters of state.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 8, 2011 14:46:23 GMT 3
phil,
Curiously enough, Muthaura is on some kind of two week vacation and reports also indicate that there is jostling for his position and several names have been cited to be in the list including Jukwaa's own favourite friend Prof. Peter Kagwanja. It is kind of bizarre that Muthaura needs two weeks vacation in the middle of so many things.
But yes, I think you are right that the ICC matter may be factoring into the reshuffle business. May be Kibaki has finally realized that by keeping Muthaura and Uhuru in the cabinet in key positions it undermines their Admissibility case. I am sure the Kibaki lawyers being experienced and pretty smart people have told Kibaki the truth which is that they do not even have a chance with key suspects still in key offices.
It is also possible that Mr. muthamaki is clinging to his spot by all means. In any event all these is coming rather too late. What else is new? It is called the theatre of the absurd. The nation is familiar with this circus.
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Post by commes on May 8, 2011 16:31:56 GMT 3
There are major rifts within PNU. That is where the thorn is.
ODM provides a much needed diversionary relief to the PNU wing. By consistently citing ODM as the common enemy keeps the PNU together.
A cabinet reshuffle will only blow to the surface the “widening rift within PNU” and hence the delay.
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Post by kamalet on May 8, 2011 19:49:00 GMT 3
As Oloo would say, I am chuckling as I see confusion!
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Post by b6k on May 8, 2011 23:53:37 GMT 3
Fuel shortage blunders aside, the impending cabinet reshuffle is taking longer than expected. While PNU want Ruto re-appointed back to cabinet ASAP, rumours are that Raila Odinga has expressly informed Kibaki that Ruto is no longer the ODM choice for cabinet and that he will be replaced by another MP from Rift Valley. Not just because Ruto has fallen out of political favour with ODM, but also because of the fact Ruto is among six Kenyans currently facing a possible indictment by the ICC for serious crimes against Kenyan civilians. On the PNU side, is it true that Uhuru Kenyatta has refused to step aside from his DPM and Finance Ministry portfolios and that Kibaki has got no guts to sack him despite pressure from donors and development partners who have refused to engage with the ICC suspect? While the Prime Minister is said to have already finalised his ODM side of the reshuffle, the PNU side are said to be caught in a quagmire with sources intimating that Head of Civil Service submitted his resignation months ago but Kibaki refused to accept it while other sources say Uhuru Kenyatta has declined to voluntarily resign thus being seen as causing a serious impediment to government business. Could Kibaki be ready to drop Uhuru and retain Muthaura? So severe is the issues of cabinet reshuffle vis ICC trials that to date, cabinet has met only 3 times since December 2010 when Ocampo named the six suspects. And in those three meetings, the business conducted was far from significant. In the meantime, president continue to meet individual ministers intermittently and only to conduct urgent matters of state. Phil, so to put it another way you claim the cabinet reshuffle is delayed because RAO wants Ruto out but he can't get him out as he is not the appointing authority & yet Kibaki cannot get rid of Uhuru because he lacks the power to do so even as the duly elected appointing authority whilst both principles have reservations on retaining some of the O-6? Pardon the run on sentence but something doesn't add up. |
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Post by jakaswanga on May 10, 2011 20:04:30 GMT 3
b6k wondered
Phil, so to put it another way you claim the cabinet reshuffle is delayed because RAO wants Ruto out but he can't get him out as he is not the appointing authority & yet Kibaki cannot get rid of Uhuru because he lacks the power to do so even as the duly elected appointing authority whilst both principles have reservations on retaining some of the O-6? Pardon the run on sentence but something doesn't add up.
I find the way you run that sentence eloquently upto the point enough, actually adding up all the way to an elegant answer! So I propound further thus:
The reshuffle as a historic instrument of power in political arbitration, presupposes leverage. Just like sacking too. Therefore under conditions of political stalemate, parity at power or relative weakness of the principle or principles, would-be victims could refuse to take the sack, or, even turn around and sack the sacker as we saw between Kasavubu and Lumumba long ago. That is, in a theater of the absurd, the other members of the cabinet gang up to sack Kibaki and Raila! legally possible actually...
Kibaki is a lame duck. So the reshuffles he carries out must bear the stamp of the one who has emerged in the shadows as his sucessor, in the political orbit he gravitates. If this [power struggle] is not yet resolved, he has to buy time or wait for a compromise to emerge. His own mind and the national interest too, are subservient to the power struggle elsewhere.
Raila cannot make up his mind whether to severe his linkage with Ruto definately. He hasn't finished his political mathematics on really what the import or worth of Ruto is to his cause. So he would rather let the issue resolve itself, unless his hand is forced.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 10, 2011 20:23:11 GMT 3
b6k wondered Phil, so to put it another way you claim the cabinet reshuffle is delayed because RAO wants Ruto out but he can't get him out as he is not the appointing authority & yet Kibaki cannot get rid of Uhuru because he lacks the power to do so even as the duly elected appointing authority whilst both principles have reservations on retaining some of the O-6? Pardon the run on sentence but something doesn't add up.I find the way you run that sentence eloquently upto the point enough, actually adding up all the way to an elegant answer! So I propound further thus: The reshuffle as a historic instrument of power in political arbitration, presupposes leverage. Just like sacking too. Therefore under conditions of political stalemate, parity at power or relative weakness of the principle or principles, would-be victims could refuse to take the sack, or, even turn around and sack the sacker as we saw between Kasavubu and Lumumba long ago. That is, in a theater of the absurd, the other members of the cabinet gang up to sack Kibaki and Raila! legally possible actually... Kibaki is a lame duck. So the reshuffles he carries out must bear the stamp of the one who has emerged in the shadows as his sucessor, in the political orbit he gravitates. If this [power struggle] is not yet resolved, he has to buy time or wait for a compromise to emerge. His own mind and the national interest too, are subservient to the power struggle elsewhere. Raila cannot make up his mind whether to severe his linkage with Ruto definately. He hasn't finished his political mathematics on really what the import or worth of Ruto is to his cause. So he would rather let the issue resolve itself, unless his hand is forced. Does anybody remember when Ruto was automatically taking back his job as announced by Kibaki's Spokesman Mutua and Muthaura? We were told Ruto was just waiting for Raila to come back from his trip abroad as a matter of courtesy to the PM before he steps into his office. There were vigorous arguments as to why Ruto must be given back his job and the PM had no say on the matter. What happened to that story line? Now we are down to Raila does not know whether to get rid of Ruto or not. The vituko of Kenyans and their politicians is sometimes amazing. |
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Post by phil on May 10, 2011 22:50:41 GMT 3
;D Remember you first read the real story at Jukwaa, however much they try to twist it! Why the principals are pulling apart
File | NATION President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga at a past function. According to close aides, the two are not seeing eye to eye.
By BERNARD NAMUNANE bnamunane@ke.nationmedia.com AND PATRICK MAYOYO pmayoyo@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Tuesday, May 10 2011 at 22:00
Differences on reshuffling the Cabinet have set President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga on a collision course.
Interviews with MPs from both sides revealed that whereas Mr Odinga was eager to clean up and rebuild his party by ridding it of rebels such as suspended minister William Ruto, the President appears to be in no particular hurry to reshuffle the Cabinet.
The two principals were also said to be split on the cases facing the Ocampo Six at The Hague, the fight over parliamentary committees, appointments to top government jobs and the fresh invasion of another island in Lake Victoria by Uganda soldiers.
The fear is that unless the two mend fences, this could delay the implementation of the Constitution and possibly lead to the dissolution of Parliament.
That the PM was planning to change his troops in government came out last week when he told a news conference in his office that a reshuffle will be effected in “due course” to fill vacancies in ministries.
Affected dockets are Higher Education, Industrialisation and Foreign Affairs.
The chairman of the Luo Parliamentary Group John Pesa was categorical that rebel MPs should be thrown out of the Cabinet and their positions given to loyalists.
“ODM has people from various ethnic communities who are loyal to the party who should fill positions held by rebel MPs,” he said.
On the PNU side, Medical Affairs assistant minister Kazungu Kambi accused Mr Odinga of instigating the deadlock in the Justice and Legal Affairs committee to start a fresh rift in government.
“Raila is behind the war in the Legal Affairs committee and he doesn’t mean well for the President. The war in the committee is meant to make it difficult for the government to work,” he said.
But the new Constitution has an inbuilt self-triggering mechanism which overcomes any attempt to block its enforcement in 261(7) of the Transitional Clauses.
ODM Chief Whip Jakoyo Midiwo submitted that whenever the two principals meet, they prefer to delegate sticky issues affecting the relationship between their parties to the Management Committee on the Affairs of the Grand Coalition, which is inactive.
This has prompted Parliament’s House Business Committee to set up a three-man team comprising Cabinet ministers Mutula Kilonzo (ODM Kenya), Anyang’ Nyong’o (ODM) and Kiraitu Murungi (PNU) to revive the coalition committee to handle the differences.
The three-man team was formed after wrangles in the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee escalated last week when ODM withdrew its members and boycotted a workshop in Mombasa meant ro resolve the issue.
Cede ground
And at the weekend, Mr Odinga declared that ODM was ready to go for elections in case of any eventuality concerning the ongoing wrangles over the implementation of the Constitution.
He warned that ODM will not cede ground and accused PNU of scuttling the implementation process.
“We are ready to go for elections anytime,” he said.
Justice minister Mutula Kilonzo said that politics linked to the 2012 elections were affecting the relationship between coalition partners and warned of the danger of a dysfunctional Legal Affairs committee.
He claimed there was something the two sides were hiding from the public.
“There must be something hidden which we don’t know,” he said. |
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Post by jakaswanga on May 10, 2011 23:05:47 GMT 3
Phil wrote
While the Prime Minister is said to have already finalised his ODM side of the reshuffle, the PNU side are said to be caught in a quagmire with sources intimating that Head of Civil Service submitted his resignation months ago but Kibaki refused to accept it while other sources say Uhuru Kenyatta has declined to voluntarily resign thus being seen as causing a serious impediment to government business. Could Kibaki be ready to drop Uhuru and retain Muthaura?
Phil,
Is there a constitutional requirement that the reshuffle of both coalitional parties happen simultaneously? I do not think so, which means Raila could have pressed on Kibaki that, while you wait to make up your mind on YOUR side, I am through with mine, so make the announcement [as protocol demands] of the ODM side of the reshuffle! Take your time! not mine!
What is the real thinkin behind a a simultaneous reshuffle? a question of hanging in there together I think.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 10, 2011 23:11:57 GMT 3
Phil wrote While the Prime Minister is said to have already finalised his ODM side of the reshuffle, the PNU side are said to be caught in a quagmire with sources intimating that Head of Civil Service submitted his resignation months ago but Kibaki refused to accept it while other sources say Uhuru Kenyatta has declined to voluntarily resign thus being seen as causing a serious impediment to government business. Could Kibaki be ready to drop Uhuru and retain Muthaura?Phil, Is there a constitutional requirement that the reshuffle of both coalitional parties happen simultaneously? I do not think so, which means Raila could have pressed on Kibaki that, while you wait to make up your mind on YOUR side, I am through with mine, so make the announcement [as protocol demands] of the ODM side of the reshuffle! Take your time! not mine! What is the real thinkin behind a a simultaneous reshuffle? a question of hanging in there together I think. jakaswanga, In the real world what you are suggesting is not even remotely possible. Even in a jua kali government like ours the public needs to be spared daily cabinet reshuffles. There is fantasy and then there is the real world. |
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 11, 2011 0:08:13 GMT 3
he he he ;D ;D
Ruto and his sympathizers are finding it very tricky, to navigate the turbulent murky waters that they themselves stirred up!
It was good going when they could beat up the Rt Hon Prime Minister like a pinata, on almost a daily basis, when it served their interests.
Now that it seems they want something from him, so they are tactically silent. I have not heard ruto denigrate the Rt Hon Prime Minister of late. Instead they have the snollygoster Judas KM picking up from where they left off with his tired arguments.
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Post by shifta on May 11, 2011 5:04:25 GMT 3
Phil I think you are onto something - that something is the quandary that PANUA finds itself. Remember ODM has to balance the ethnic and regional factors, but PANUA has ethnic, region and party ( the real headache) to balance. As for muthamaki's minstry, if he was to be outed, look no further than 30 miles around Mt.Kenya.
This notion that somehow the PM can not act unless his hand is pushed or that he can announce is own line-up is incredulous and illusionary as Adongo points out.
Personally I wish they would combine the "un-attended" ministries, that would also lock out the noze makers aka Ruto & gang.
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Post by Titchaz on May 11, 2011 5:11:40 GMT 3
THE SQUABBLES IN PNU Showdown: MP Adan Dualle (L) with former Mukuruweini MP Mutahi Kagwe (2nd left) and Elias Mbaru (R) THE intervention of Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta during last weekend's prayer meeting in Nyeri prevented a public showdown among Nyeri leaders.During a breakfast meeting, Uhuru urged the leaders to keep their personal differences outside the prayer meeting rally held at Ruring'u stadium. The leaders then agreed to allow every leader, including those seeking elective posts, to address the crowd. It was said the area MPs wanted to hog the limelight at the expense of aspiring leaders but the latter had vowed to address the crowd. The Nyeri County MPs present included Francis Nyammo (Tetu), Kabando wa Kabando (Mukurwe-ini), Ephraim Maina (Mathira), Nemesyus Warugongo (Kieni) and Esther Murugi (Nyeri Town).There was a near drama when former Mathira MP Nderitu Gachagua, who is eying the governor post, was shoved aside by an MP's ally during the beakfast meeting. The prayers were help at Consolata Cathedral Catholic church in town for two hours before the leaders headed to Ruring'u stadium for the rally. Aspiring political candidates were given a chance to declare the seat they were eyeing. This cooled down the tempers. Kanini Keega who is eying the Kieni seat arrived atop his vehicle. Gachagua who has announced his intention for governor and former Mukurweini MP Mutahi Kagwe who is gunning for senator, arrived at the stadium to a thunderous applause. At one point, Kagwe scoffed at Juja MP William Kabogo's attempt to cut short his speech. “Kabogo don't stop me, here is Nyeri and Nyeri is ours,” Kagwe told the Juja MP who was the master of ceremony. Thuo Mathenge (aspiring governor) and Maina Mathenge (aspiring Nyeri Town MP) stole the show as they arrived with women dancers. Conspicuously absent was Chris Murungaru who is seeking the senator post. Maragwa MP Elias Mbau later left the meeting in a huff after Kabogo said he (Mbau) was formerly on the side of "Mzungu" ( Gatanga MP Peter Kenneth) but had "seen the light". Eldoret North MP William Ruto was expected at the meeting but failed to turn up.www.nairobistar.com/local/central/23803-uhuru-foils-showdown-among-nyeri-leaders |
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Post by kamalet on May 11, 2011 7:06:23 GMT 3
;D Remember you first read the real story at Jukwaa, however much they try to twist it! Why the principals are pulling apart
File | NATION President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga at a past function. According to close aides, the two are not seeing eye to eye.
By BERNARD NAMUNANE bnamunane@ke.nationmedia.com AND PATRICK MAYOYO pmayoyo@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Tuesday, May 10 2011 at 22:00
Differences on reshuffling the Cabinet have set President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga on a collision course.
Interviews with MPs from both sides revealed that whereas Mr Odinga was eager to clean up and rebuild his party by ridding it of rebels such as suspended minister William Ruto, the President appears to be in no particular hurry to reshuffle the Cabinet.
The two principals were also said to be split on the cases facing the Ocampo Six at The Hague, the fight over parliamentary committees, appointments to top government jobs and the fresh invasion of another island in Lake Victoria by Uganda soldiers.
The fear is that unless the two mend fences, this could delay the implementation of the Constitution and possibly lead to the dissolution of Parliament.
That the PM was planning to change his troops in government came out last week when he told a news conference in his office that a reshuffle will be effected in “due course” to fill vacancies in ministries.
Affected dockets are Higher Education, Industrialisation and Foreign Affairs.
The chairman of the Luo Parliamentary Group John Pesa was categorical that rebel MPs should be thrown out of the Cabinet and their positions given to loyalists.
“ODM has people from various ethnic communities who are loyal to the party who should fill positions held by rebel MPs,” he said.
On the PNU side, Medical Affairs assistant minister Kazungu Kambi accused Mr Odinga of instigating the deadlock in the Justice and Legal Affairs committee to start a fresh rift in government.
“Raila is behind the war in the Legal Affairs committee and he doesn’t mean well for the President. The war in the committee is meant to make it difficult for the government to work,” he said.
But the new Constitution has an inbuilt self-triggering mechanism which overcomes any attempt to block its enforcement in 261(7) of the Transitional Clauses.
ODM Chief Whip Jakoyo Midiwo submitted that whenever the two principals meet, they prefer to delegate sticky issues affecting the relationship between their parties to the Management Committee on the Affairs of the Grand Coalition, which is inactive.
This has prompted Parliament’s House Business Committee to set up a three-man team comprising Cabinet ministers Mutula Kilonzo (ODM Kenya), Anyang’ Nyong’o (ODM) and Kiraitu Murungi (PNU) to revive the coalition committee to handle the differences.
The three-man team was formed after wrangles in the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee escalated last week when ODM withdrew its members and boycotted a workshop in Mombasa meant ro resolve the issue.
Cede ground
And at the weekend, Mr Odinga declared that ODM was ready to go for elections in case of any eventuality concerning the ongoing wrangles over the implementation of the Constitution.
He warned that ODM will not cede ground and accused PNU of scuttling the implementation process.
“We are ready to go for elections anytime,” he said.
Justice minister Mutula Kilonzo said that politics linked to the 2012 elections were affecting the relationship between coalition partners and warned of the danger of a dysfunctional Legal Affairs committee.
He claimed there was something the two sides were hiding from the public.
“There must be something hidden which we don’t know,” he said. Phil Did you not blast NMG for the story on the PM's visits costing us money? I am actually surprised that you could have picked up this story to back up your theories. First it is full of falsehoods and what stopped me from reading it further was when I was informed of a parliamentary group called the Luo Parliamentary Group and which is headed by John Pesa!! Have you ever heard of such a group......? Now go figure on the credibility of the rest of the story! |
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Post by merkeju on May 11, 2011 8:26:55 GMT 3
Raila's political strategy has always been like the long distance Kenyan runners where they act together as a group, there is a pace maker who runs as fast as they could, to push the other runners to burn themselves out, while the other kenyan runners keep there pace and calmness until the last lap where they sprint to the finish taking the first three positions.
Raila as given PNU all the chances to portray themselves as people party, but the power has blanked their memories and they have never learned from the past, always shooting themselves on the feet.
By removing Namwamba PNU has lost the by coming election in Ikolomani, the western electorates are not happy with PNU's push to remove their sons from positions they are holding.
That's why Eugene Wamalwa in parliament turned against the government on the issue of security, no PNU campaign in Ikolomani, signs of things to come.
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Post by phil on May 11, 2011 15:21:13 GMT 3
You have Kalenjin Parliamentary Group spokesman Julius Kones, his Central Kenya counterpart Ephraim Maina and their coast counterpart in Chirau Ali Mwakwere and the other loud-mouth Johnstone Muthama talking on behalf of PNU Kamba MPs, why not also Luo Nyanza have their own John Pesa to speak on their behalf?
Kamale wewe ambia Kibaki awache aibu ndogo ndogo.
Let him appoint a Foreign Affairs minister so he does have to go to Kampala under the guise of attending Museveni's inauguration kumbe he is going to fire fight and do damage control since Kenya is now officially under attack from Ethiopia, Uganda and Somalia; while our defence forces relax in the barracks the minister of defence too busy with 'Tuko Pamoja' rallies to care.
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Post by kamalet on May 11, 2011 15:47:43 GMT 3
You have Kalenjin Parliamentary Group spokesman Julius Kones, his Central Kenya counterpart Ephraim Maina and their coast counterpart in Chirau Ali Mwakwere and the other loud-mouth Johnstone Muthama talking on behalf of PNU Kamba MPs, why not also Luo Nyanza have their own John Pesa to speak on their behalf? Kamale wewe ambia Kibaki awache aibu ndogo ndogo. Let him appoint a Foreign Affairs minister so he does have to go to Kampala under the guise of attending Museveni's inauguration kumbe he is going to fire fight and do damage control since Kenya is now officially under attack from Ethiopia, Uganda and Somalia; while our defence forces relax in the barracks the minister of defence too busy with 'Tuko Pamoja' rallies to care. Phil From one grown up to "another" - you will never hear me send you to Raila for an errand. This is because I know you are not on his payroll. Respect me in kind!! So are you actually confirming that there is Luo Parliamentary group? I have not heard of the kikuyu parliamentary group but yes I know of the regional grouping........! The story cannot be true if you ask me! |
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Post by b6k on May 11, 2011 18:29:47 GMT 3
b6k wondered Phil, so to put it another way you claim the cabinet reshuffle is delayed because RAO wants Ruto out but he can't get him out as he is not the appointing authority & yet Kibaki cannot get rid of Uhuru because he lacks the power to do so even as the duly elected appointing authority whilst both principles have reservations on retaining some of the O-6? Pardon the run on sentence but something doesn't add up.I find the way you run that sentence eloquently upto the point enough, actually adding up all the way to an elegant answer! So I propound further thus: The reshuffle as a historic instrument of power in political arbitration, presupposes leverage. Just like sacking too. Therefore under conditions of political stalemate, parity at power or relative weakness of the principle or principles, would-be victims could refuse to take the sack, or, even turn around and sack the sacker as we saw between Kasavubu and Lumumba long ago. That is, in a theater of the absurd, the other members of the cabinet gang up to sack Kibaki and Raila! legally possible actually... Kibaki is a lame duck. So the reshuffles he carries out must bear the stamp of the one who has emerged in the shadows as his sucessor, in the political orbit he gravitates. If this [power struggle] is not yet resolved, he has to buy time or wait for a compromise to emerge. His own mind and the national interest too, are subservient to the power struggle elsewhere. Raila cannot make up his mind whether to severe his linkage with Ruto definately. He hasn't finished his political mathematics on really what the import or worth of Ruto is to his cause. So he would rather let the issue resolve itself, unless his hand is forced. Jakaswanga, do we really have lame duck presidents in Africa? Even Nyayo was still very much in charge until he surrendered the symbols of power at Uhuru park during Kibaki's inauguration. It wasn't until the presidential flag, juju beads & whatever else is customarily exchanged were handed over when the crowd knew it was safe to heckle him & pelt him with improvised non-explosive devices (InED's). It was open season against citizen Moi. MK has somewhat "improved" through the years since he stumbled upon the highest office in the land as an over medicated figure head in '02/'03. Don't be surprised if he knows exactly what he's doing to counter the marathon man's moves. I doubt he has to kowtow to his god son, UK. |
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Post by jakaswanga on May 11, 2011 19:37:14 GMT 3
[quote author=adongo23456 board=general thread=5409 post=69038 time=13050583
jakaswanga,
In the real world what you are suggesting is not even remotely possible. Even in a jua kali government like ours the public needs to be spared daily cabinet reshuffles. There is fantasy and then there is the real world.[/quote]
Adongo,
In the real world in real time, I remember Kibaki going ahead and appointing his half of the cabinet after he stole the elections, fixing even the size of the cabinet in advance, as he waited for Raila grow up and come up with his list! After some dithering Raila did. So In real time I still want a serious answer why Raila has to wait for Kibaki. Is there a constitutional requirement? or just good manners? like all starting to eat together at a table?
So if Kibaki decides his PNU-team is OK, he needs no reshuffle, then there will be no ODM reshuffle??
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Post by jakaswanga on May 11, 2011 19:54:53 GMT 3
b6k wrote
Jakaswanga,
do we really have lame duck presidents in Africa? Even Nyayo was still very much in charge until he surrendered the symbols of power at Uhuru park during Kibaki's inauguration[/b][/sup]
b6k,
In the rule there are no lame duck presidents in Africa. But a few exceptions have emerged, due to changed political situations. For instance I would argue that Thabo Mbeki became effectively a lame duck. But it was Chisano of Mozambique who showed the grace and dignity with which lame-duckness in Africa can be borne! I think the political situation in Kenya has evolved enough to warrant a lame-duck description for our incumbent. But I accept your caution that I run the risk of stretching it!
I can't think of anymore enlightened lame duck presidents!
But on the horror side: Mobutu was a lame duck two years before his exit [he had already lost half his territory to rebels and become history while in Kinshasha he still behaved like an emperor! I remember him being disparaged by a Kenyan named John Odongo as a 'toy emperor'!
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Post by phil on May 19, 2011 16:26:17 GMT 3
Yet again the country approaches the end of another week without enjoying the tax-payer funded services of a substantive Foreign Affairs Minister nor a Higher Education Minister nor a Minister for Industry. The country is being held at ransom at the political whims of a moribund individual.
In the unlikely event that the reshuffle is announced between now and tomorrow, and substantive ministers are appointed in the vacant slots and those with court cases against the people of Kenya replaced, then the government can start may start functioning smoothly. Right now, even in parliament, seven ministries were recently slapped with sanctions by the speaker for failing to turn up for sessions to answer questions from MPs.
Amidst the invasion of the country by foreigners and the massacre of innocent Kenyan villagers at the hands of foreign militia who currently occupy Kenya territory, one would have imagined that this would have served as the most important agenda a Foreign Affairs minister would have had in his/her hands. Instead, it was interesting and baffling for Kenyans to see the PM accompanied by a health minister visit the Todonyang area of Turkana where tens of Kenyans were massacred. There was no PNU minister in sight other than the local MP and Labour Minister John Munyes, yet this is something that required the defence, foreign affairs and internal security ministers to be personally present.
What is happening in Kenya's dysfunctional and sharply divided cabinet remains a first in commonwealth countries and in the entire world. Unfortunately and sadly, service delivery to tax payers and citizens at large is heavily compromised because the long awaited cabinet re-shuffle remains pending due to the short-sighted politics of the Kibaki succession and the fact the the ICC is currently hearing cases against perceived preferred successors.
It is safe to conclude Uganda are invading Kenya, and taking over parts of the Kenya territory, knowing full well there will be no resistance and nothing will happen since they are taking advantage of Kenya's divided cabinet. Uganda's president is deeply involved in the on going Kibaki succession battle as it is in his interest that Kenya's next president presents the least of threats to him. Uganda also know one side of the coalition can only talk and not act. One can make the same conclusions on the matter of Turkana massacres and the threats by Al-Shabaab in North Eastern. Yet, the wretched citizenry of Kenya claim to have a functional a commander in chief thief.
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Post by mzee on May 19, 2011 17:32:27 GMT 3
Just show some of these guys money to steal and the will be all over the place.
As long as there is no money to steal, the commander in thief will do nothing.
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Post by phil on May 20, 2011 9:38:03 GMT 3
See how Kibaki dreads dropping ICC suspects whom he believes are best placed to succeed him . The fact is that Kibaki's wants a successor who will protect him in future from the ICC and cover him from being called to account for crimes during his 10 year reign! Corridors of Power - The Star
President Kibaki has reportedly declined a proposal to reshuffle the Cabinet as requested by Prime Minister Raila Odinga. Those in the know say the President is opposed to the appointment into the Cabinet of an MP from the Rift Valley. Raila had proposed a major reshuffle which would have affected 10 ODM ministries and nearly 14 assistant ministerial positions. Kibaki, our moles tell us, prefers a minor re-shuffle to fill in the vacant positions. A much anticipated announcement following the meeting between the two principals has yet to be made. |
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Post by mzalendo on May 20, 2011 13:54:58 GMT 3
what is wrong with this man,
If he does not want a reshuffle on his PNU wing he should atleast let Raila reshuffle ODM side
There are alot of cobwebs in ODM functional unit this can only be interprated as a case of sabotaging ODM by making sure that ODM looks disorganised as it is now when rebels control important party positions.
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Post by kamalet on May 21, 2011 11:01:33 GMT 3
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