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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 2, 2011 21:29:04 GMT 3
I want to draw attention to the rantings of this member Jakaswanga. This jukwaaist called me a mother fu.cker. I find that that highly reprehensible, unwarranted ad hominem attack. I call on all jukwaaists to condemn this fellow, I call on the Admin(s) to find an appropriate punishment for jakaswanga. Something must be done!! jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4419&page=2
Onyango Oloo, WROTE
What kind of language is this being used here?
I think that its shameful
And I responded
OO
Is that all you are going to say surely?
Jakaswanga calling me a mother fu.ck.ker (MF) 
And all you can say is that its shameful?
Really?
I want you to sit down and think about it for a moment.
This fellow jukwaaist just called me a mother fu.c.ker.
I repeat he called me A mother fu.cker.
Is there a more vile and heinous verbal abuse than that?
And for what? What did I do to invite this most outrageous and venomous attack?
All I did was celebrate the traffic in jukwaa. When 80 something or 90 something or 100 and something folks read jukwaa but arent logged in they are indeed peeping, or lurking in WWW parlance. I dont know why the usage of these terms irked folks like abdulmote and afrigun. Knowing what I know about the two words, I simply dismissed and shrugged off their criticisms, they were not worth responding to. I really did not give a hoot what they thought about my celebrating of this forum. If they did not like it they were free to do so. Its their right after all and I dont care what they think. They dot pay my damm internet bills. Shauri yao. So I glossed over their comments and moved ahead. They were empty, worthless, baseless criticisms.
Celebrating Jukwaa is now a crime?
And now when I celebrate the traffic Jukwaa is getting I get attacked in the most vile way? Really?
I demand a PUBLIC apology from jakaswanga. And I also demand he be punished appropriately for violating jukwaa protocols. I cant remember a jukwaaist being called a mother fu.ck.ker by a fellow jukwaaist.
Abdulmote had reservations about the innocuous terms I used and said so. But abdulMote did not call me a mother fu.ck.er. There are threads that abdul mote has started and I made comments that criticized some of the contents of his postings. I never called him names. Likewise, there are some postings of his that I have commented positively on.
As for jakaswanga, I stopped reading his posts a long time ago simply because of the convoluted way he writes. I just dont get what it is that he tries to say. So I never bother. I read many posts of jukwaaists with whom I disagree vehemently. But I have never called them mother fu.ckers. I have also never called on them to shut the fu.ck up.
I completely and totally resent this unwarranted abuse by a fellow jukwaaist. I have NEVER hurled abuse at a fellow jukwaaist. I comment on ideas only. I dismiss them, I laugh at them, I deride them. But I never launch attacks on the person who wrote them. I never call them mother fu.ckers. Never. I dont recall calling a Jukwaaist idiot either, and if I have done so, show me. Ideas and arguments may be idiotic though.
As I have said before, its not about us but about the folks in power who have driven the country into the abyss. They deserve the strongest and most vile vilification and yes abuse. If you look at what muthamaki's mungiki did to folks in Naivasha, those pics are so gory that the admin OO has blocked us from posting them here. I have no reservations about hurling abuse and epithets at them. I have done so. And occasionally the admin and others have deemed that I crossed the line, and I respectfully apologized.
So, again, I demand an apology from Jakaswanga, and I also hope that the Admin will see it fit to do and say something more that he has said above.
And also why are the other members here silent? I assume they have not read the rantings of jakaswanga. For if he can attack me in such a vile manner he will do so again. Do we want this forum engaged in these side shows kila siku?
I will leave you with the words of Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Post by mzee on Oct 2, 2011 22:34:04 GMT 3
PoliticalManiac,
It was not Onyango Oloo who wrote
"What kind of language is this being used here?
I think that its shameful"
I did, in response to Jakaswangas vulgar langauge.
I was just asking Oloo to act on the langauge used.
Perhaps that other two moderators should also chip in when OO is not around.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 2, 2011 23:40:04 GMT 3
Mzee
Thanks for the clarification
To Admin OO
Apologies for putting words in your mouth.
We need to hear from the Admins about this horrific abuse
I still demand a clear apology from jakaswanga
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Post by Fahari on Oct 3, 2011 1:02:49 GMT 3
Mzee Thanks for the clarification To Admin OO Apologies for putting words in your mouth. We need to hear from the Admins about this horrific abuse I still demand a clear apology from jakaswanga You are pretty foul mouthed yourself, you of the Mafi ya Mt kenya fame.......... clean up your language then perhaps you may get some sympathy....... True the language used was terrible but calling visitors to the site peepers and lurkers is not polite either. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 3, 2011 3:38:49 GMT 3
Mkuki kwa nguruwe hu?
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Post by patriotism101 on Oct 3, 2011 4:29:02 GMT 3
PManiac- I dont condone foul mouths- neither do I condone being a sissy. Get over it for crying out loud  . |
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2011 5:53:52 GMT 3
Hear me, even as I am herded to the guillotine! I confess!First: I am heartbroken to realise that the two most worthy of Jukwaaists, PM and Reporter something, quit reading my convoluted posts long ago. I shed tears that flow like the river Sondu. Because I specifically write [my top prose] for this two! Woe be upon me! since verily to no avail! 2nd. North america will have to learn some restraint before jumping to premature conclusions, even if the case looks obvious. MF as an abbreviation has other possibilities of meaning in the queens english, apart from the apparently North American one. My Fellow, Mister Foolhardy. I therefore had the premonition to give myself some slippery room, precaution, to wriggle out of that understanding which seems to be THE ONLY ONE thinkable for this enchanting duo. Bwana Prime Minister you could have asked for clarification like I usually do [Do I get you correct that..] before you took offence: 3rd. And this is the issue. The stubborn and sustained description of those who have hit the Jukwaa site as lurkers and peepers, is what riles me so much. Those are no words to use for our guests. Peep has the connotation obscene, like in peeping Tom. Lurk, is what web surfers do on pornographic sites. I cannot bring myself to accept the use of these terms for members reading Jukwaa without logging in, nor other non member but interested party! STOP PRESS: After some [gently persuasive] attempts at correction by Abdulmote and Afrigun, I noticed PM became even more maniacal, mercilessly keeping the count. I just had enough. I decided to intone upon him the power of words to annoy, even if the MEANING MAY BE OTHER! So I abbreviated My Fellow to MF hoping he would fill it in as My Fool. In the event he did better! and has gone real ballistic! As ballistic as our guests go when they read they are peeps and lurks! I apologise to this august blog for this controversy. I apologise to the adminstrator, seing that he has been vehemently called upon by a pack of a certain kind to discipline me, and has a choice to make on that. I congratulate PM for having atleast made the effort to wade through that other convoluted post of Jakaswanga and manage to squeeze out some meaning! albeit a misrepresentation of an abbreviation. And for heaven's sake. Let us not refer to our guests as peeps and lurks! It is worse termininology than MF! 
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 7:16:49 GMT 3
Mzee Thanks for the clarification To Admin OO Apologies for putting words in your mouth. We need to hear from the Admins about this horrific abuse I still demand a clear apology from jakaswanga You are pretty foul mouthed yourself, you of the Mafi ya Mt kenya fame.......... clean up your language then perhaps you may get some sympathy....... True the language used was terrible but calling visitors to the site peepers and lurkers is not polite either. Fact remains that the words lurker and peeper are not abusive words to be used.. unlike MF !! P does not need your sympathy pal!!! jakaswaga owes P and apology Period! no if and buts! on jukwaa members do not use abusive language unless some of you want to introduce it here.. then do tell us!! |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 7:20:55 GMT 3
PManiac- I dont condone foul mouths- neither do I condone being a sissy. Get over it for crying out loud . So why don't you let jakaswaga call you MF, let it be between you both, but he has no right to call other members here MF period he better.. take his dirty talk and foul language elsewhere not here on Jukwaa. |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 7:33:02 GMT 3
Hear me, even as I am herded to the guillotine! I confess!First: I am heartbroken to realise that the two most worthy of Jukwaaists, PM and Reporter something, quit reading my convoluted posts long ago. I shed tears that flow like the river Sondu. Because I specifically write [my top prose] for this two! Woe be upon me! since verily to no avail! 2nd. North america will have to learn some restraint before jumping to premature conclusions, even if the case looks obvious. MF as an abbreviation has other possibilities of meaning in the queens english, apart from the apparently North American one. My Fellow, Mister Foolhardy. I therefore had the premonition to give myself some slippery room, precaution, to wriggle out of that understanding which seems to be THE ONLY ONE thinkable for this enchanting duo. Bwana Prime Minister you could have asked for clarification like I usually do [Do I get you correct that..] before you took offence: 3rd. And this is the issue. The stubborn and sustained description of those who have hit the Jukwaa site as lurkers and peepers, is what riles me so much. Those are no words to use for our guests. Peep has the connotation obscene, like in peeping Tom. Lurk, is what web surfers do on pornographic sites. I cannot bring myself to accept the use of these terms for members reading Jukwaa without logging in, nor other non member but interested party! STOP PRESS: After some [gently persuasive] attempts at correction by Abdulmote and Afrigun, I noticed PM became even more maniacal, mercilessly keeping the count. I just had enough. I decided to intone upon him the power of words to annoy, even if the MEANING MAY BE OTHER! So I abbreviated My Fellow to MF hoping he would fill it in as My Fool. In the event he did better! and has gone real ballistic! As ballistic as our guests go when they read they are peeps and lurks! I apologise to this august blog for this controversy. I apologise to the adminstrator, seing that he has been vehemently called upon by a pack of a certain kind to discipline me, and has a choice to make on that. I congratulate PM for having atleast made the effort to wade through that other convoluted post of Jakaswanga and manage to squeeze out some meaning! albeit a misrepresentation of an abbreviation. And for heaven's sake. Let us not refer to our guests as peeps and lurks! It is worse termininology than MF! Go read clearly in the dictionary the true meaning of lurkers instead of coining it the way it suits you pals.. post here the meaning of lurks go google it up if you don't have a dictionary there are plenty of references on the internet, so lets not try pulling first ones here !!! MF is an abuse so if you are telling us that the administrator has allowed you to call Jukwaa members MF then we need a post from the administrators saying exactly that or else you owe an apology to P.. Lets not try making up weird stories about lurkers .. in your mind being connected to porno! and do tell us what does North America has to do with you calling P a MF and to Sh---t Up? stop talking with a twisted tongue here! you abused a member here on Jukwaa and you owe him and apology! unless you are telling us as members you have the privilege from the administrator to call other members MF and Sh---t up!! So what if I don't read your post! where does it say on Jukwaa that we have to read all members posts!! it is a choice not a must! deal with it!! |
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Post by b6k on Oct 3, 2011 7:41:30 GMT 3
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
PM, as Fahari eloquently states, you are not a paragon of peace. You dish it out yet feel slighted when it's dished out to you in small doses.
I'm not condoning Jakaswanga's missive to you (& I'm amused to see he seems to have the Kay-Higgins defence duo at his side with his alternate definitions of MF), but I will not condemn him for attempting to tell you to shut it either.
In this thread alone you have used the full MF almost a dozen times. Was that really necessary? Now grow a pair & move on as per P101's advice. Your point has been made, Jakaswanga's apology is on record, let him prepare for the sin bin.
End of crisis!
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 8:00:44 GMT 3
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. PM, as Fahari eloquently states, you are not a paragon of peace. You dish it out yet feel slighted when it's dished out to you in small doses. I'm not condoning Jakaswanga's missive to you (& I'm amused to see he seems to have the Kay-Higgins defence duo at his side with his alternate definitions of MF), but I will not condemn him for attempting to tell you to shut it either. In this thread alone you have used the full MF almost a dozen times. Was that really necessary? Now grow a pair & move on as per P101's advice. Your point has been made, Jakaswanga's apology is on record, let him prepare for the sin bin. End of crisis! Please post here on which member PM has dished out abuses and insults on!!? any member on here? who has he abused or used the word MF? I repeat !!we are talking about Jukwaa members being abused by PM not politicians who have milked our country dry, stolen from the government coffers and organised gangs of murderers to slaughter innocent Kenyans, Those Politicians or Kenyans who steal, slaughter & murder !!!any Kenyan is allowed to throw insults and abuses at the many time!!they deserve it since they seem to be untouchable and protected while IN office! Like All politicians and Kenyans involved in Goldernberg scandals, Anglo leasing, Charter house, Grand Regency..2007-2008 slaughter & murders e.t.c these are individuals any Kenyan has a right to abuse if they choose to!!they deserve Matusi! But when it comes to Jukwaa members here, then I beg to differ, no member is allowed to use insulting, abusive and foul language against other members! period!! Jakaswanga abused PM! an apology is owed without trying to wiggle out of it with many stories like trying to say that he was right in using abusive language on a Jukwaa member! NOT ACCEPTABLE!! |
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Post by kamalet on Oct 3, 2011 8:19:28 GMT 3
PManiac- I dont condone foul mouths- neither do I condone being a sissy. Get over it for crying out loud . So why don't you let jakaswaga call you MF, let it be between you both, but he has no right to call other members here MF period he better.. take his dirty talk and foul language elsewhere not here on Jukwaa. Do you trhen concede being a peeper and lurker in Jukwaa because you defintely sound like one? |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 8:32:20 GMT 3
So why don't you let jakaswaga call you MF, let it be between you both, but he has no right to call other members here MF period he better.. take his dirty talk and foul language elsewhere not here on Jukwaa. Do you trhen concede being a peeper and lurker in Jukwaa because you defintely sound like one? I was expecting you, as usual you didn't bother going to check in your dictionary or even using the simple google to check the meaning of both words!! oh boy.. I don't have the time to teach you, but hey i posted the meaning somehere here go check it out then try and see where you fit in.. that tells me you will not have clearly understood the meaning of both words.. a reminder there are many colleges out there teaching English as a second language if you can't even understand the meanings of the words in a dictionary!  |
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 3, 2011 8:51:59 GMT 3
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. PM, as Fahari eloquently states, you are not a paragon of peace. You dish it out yet feel slighted when it's dished out to you in small doses. I'm not condoning Jakaswanga's missive to you (& I'm amused to see he seems to have the Kay-Higgins defence duo at his side with his alternate definitions of MF), but I will not condemn him for attempting to tell you to shut it either. In this thread alone you have used the full MF almost a dozen times. Was that really necessary? Now grow a pair & move on as per P101's advice. Your point has been made, Jakaswanga's apology is on record, let him prepare for the sin bin. End of crisis! Please post here on which member PM has dished out abuses and insults on!!? any member on here? who has he abused or used the word MF? I repeat !!we are talking about Jukwaa members being abused by PM not politicians who have milked our country dry, stolen from the government coffers and organised gangs of murderers to slaughter innocent Kenyans, Those Politicians or Kenyans who steal, slaughter & murder !!!any Kenyan is allowed to throw insults and abuses at the many time!!they deserve it since they seem to be untouchable and protected while IN office! Like All politicians and Kenyans involved in Goldernberg scandals, Anglo leasing, Charter house, Grand Regency..2007-2008 slaughter & murders e.t.c these are individuals any Kenyan has a right to abuse if they choose to!!they deserve Matusi! But when it comes to Jukwaa members here, then I beg to differ, no member is allowed to use insulting, abusive and foul language against other members! period!! Jakaswanga abused PM! an apology is owed without trying to wiggle out of it with many stories like trying to say that he was right in using abusive language on a Jukwaa member! NOT ACCEPTABLE!! This is meandering at its best . |
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Post by mzee on Oct 3, 2011 9:01:15 GMT 3
Jakaswanga is clearly wrong. He has used unjukwaaish language. For that he should think twice
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Post by destiny on Oct 3, 2011 9:34:17 GMT 3
Jukwaa runs best when it's on auto-pilot mode, without Admins getting in or members hurling matusis at each other like watotos.
I'm NOT exactly sure what Jakaswanga meant with his MF abbreviations but it's highly likely he intended to insult considering the context they were used in!
But hata wewe Bwana PM, you didn't have to repeat that word a billion times in your post, that was quite unhelpful. I also don't like it when you call PNU supporters 'Panua', for that can as well mean something else unfit to describe on this family blog.
Let's be careful with our words for heaven's sake. But if the Admins have to wield a big stick or an axe to keep some foul mouthed bloggers in check, so be it!
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2011 18:36:46 GMT 3
I want to draw attention to the rantings of this member Jakaswanga. This jukwaaist called me a mother fu.cker. I find that that highly reprehensible, unwarranted ad hominem attack. This fellow jukwaaist just called me a mother fu.c.ker. I repeat he called me A mother fu.cker. I demand a PUBLIC apology from jakaswanga. And I also demand he be punished appropriately for violating jukwaa protocols. I cant remember a jukwaaist being called a mother fu.ck.ker by a fellow jukwaaist. PM, Where in my post did I call you mother something? you are evidently obssessed with a mirage in your mind. MF stands for my fellow in that section. You are unilateral and one dimensional in your interpretations, leading you to hysterical rants, whilst the situation has another resolution. You owe me an apology for insisting I have called you something I haven't! [not to mention eternally whining in call for my punishment!] |
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Post by kamalet on Oct 3, 2011 18:50:30 GMT 3
Do you trhen concede being a peeper and lurker in Jukwaa because you defintely sound like one? I was expecting you, as usual you didn't bother going to check in your dictionary or even using the simple google to check the meaning of both words!! oh boy.. I don't have the time to teach you, but hey i posted the meaning somehere here go check it out then try and see where you fit in.. that tells me you will not have clearly understood the meaning of both words.. a reminder there are many colleges out there teaching English as a second language if you can't even understand the meanings of the words in a dictionary! I have now read the meaning and thank you for the assistance...so do you accept that you are a peeper and a lurker in Jukwaa then? |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 19:00:01 GMT 3
I was expecting you, as usual you didn't bother going to check in your dictionary or even using the simple google to check the meaning of both words!! oh boy.. I don't have the time to teach you, but hey i posted the meaning somehere here go check it out then try and see where you fit in.. that tells me you will not have clearly understood the meaning of both words.. a reminder there are many colleges out there teaching English as a second language if you can't even understand the meanings of the words in a dictionary! I have now read the meaning and thank you for the assistance...so do you accept that you are a peeper and a lurker in Jukwaa then? Yet again I don't think you actully read or understand the meaning of lurk & peeper if you did then you would not be asking me such a question.. yani English has gone over your head? ???you need serious help ;D |
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Post by kamalet on Oct 3, 2011 20:06:53 GMT 3
[/b][/quote] Yet again I don't think you actully read or understand the meaning of lurk & peeper if you did then you would not be asking me such a question.. yani English has gone over your head? ???you need serious help ;D[/quote] As you can see, you never got the gist of the question...but then you are way too clever...not. |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 3, 2011 21:47:03 GMT 3
[/b][/quote] Yet again I don't think you actully read or understand the meaning of lurk & peeper if you did then you would not be asking me such a question.. yani English has gone over your head? ???you need serious help ;D[/quote] As you can see, you never got the gist of the question...but then you are way too clever...not.[/quote] kamaletKeep 'em questions coming but get the Dictionary infront of you! that is why dictionaries were created! |
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 4, 2011 2:51:42 GMT 3
Listen jakaswanga I was not born yesterday. Please do take me for a bloody fool. Who told you that I am your fellow? I am NOT YOUR FELLOW!! I do not know you, and neither have we interacted much here on jukwaa. I cant remember responding to any of your postings. I have tried to read them but they frustrate me immensely. They hardly make any sense to me. The sentences are convoluted, meandering verbose......I cant take it. So I dont waste my time reading them. I see your name and I skip to the next posting. Being the sungura mjanja you are (or is it cowardice? Or is it remorse via back door?) you have tried to be too clever by a half and deleted that most foul heinous post. Unfortunately for you, that nasty uncalled for comment was captured in all its gory glory by einstein. Here it is PM, Abdulmote has gone the extra length in diplomatically asking you to tone it down on this ... lurkers and peepers! It seems you are deaf to gentle prodding, and opaque to respectful approaches. So I put it to you MF! just shut the F....K up! Let our guests and visitors be! This is HORRIBLE for lack of a better terminology! Is this how low you can go? What has PM and Jukwaa done to deserve this from you? What exactly have you now achieved with this? Was this supposed to be some kind of self-moderation on the part of Jukwaa members? Is this your style of community policing on Jukwaa? But why am I not shocked? It is because you just fell short of calling me similar names in the very recent past! Take it easy brother, Jukwaa is just a discussion forum; nothing more and nothing less!!! Since when in this forum, have folks hurled this kind of venomous abuse because a member disagreed with a comment? I have been here for quite a while and never have I called a fellow Jukwaaist mother fu,cker and told them to shut F....K up. Never, and I have engaged in titanic battles here. You owe me a very clear unambiguous apology. You owe this board an apology. I am not a stupid bloody fool eti I am now categorized as your MF (My Fellow). My foot! I know what BFF means I know what MF means when put in the vitriolic context you used when directed at me, and then you followed it up by shut the F...K up. If that MF was innocent why did you delete that post? Sisi siyo wajinga. This is not mashada or bowen. |
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Post by merlin on Oct 4, 2011 11:11:05 GMT 3
My dear Fellow Politicalmaniac
Harvesting season
He who seeds wind, shall harvest storm.
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Post by mzalendo on Oct 4, 2011 11:35:20 GMT 3
I call upon the adminstrator to do something. just use your big stick. I realise sometimes it helps it doesnt matter whether you right or wrong some semblence of normalcy will be restored. At the end and that will be good for the forum. This is not a childs forum. Dont hurl insults at people disguised in some dotted line and think nobody will know what it means. Lets us all not take advantage of the fact that we hide our faces behind this keyboards to do things which are ungentlemanly/ungentlewomanly. Most of us are grown ups and lets behave as grown ups. |
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