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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 21, 2012 18:37:49 GMT 3
Well, old bad habits die hard. This sounds very familiar. Mudavadi ain't seen anything yet. ODM delegates backing Mudavadi ‘intimidated’.
ODM delegates have complained of intimidation for backing Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi as the party's flag bearer. Delegates from Muranga, Maralal, Kirinyaga and Nandi claim that a Mr Okoth working under Adhu Awiti's office in the Prime Minister's office has intimidated them after having met Musalia.Adhu Awiti is a political advisor to Prime Minister Raila Odinga. "The chairmen of counties are allegedly being summoned and required to recant their support to Musalia, failure to which they will be subjected to repeat polls in their respective counties," stated a source who attended one of the meetings. Yesterday, an ally of Musalia alleged a wider scheme to manipulate the ODM delegates list.
Speaking in Maralal on Monday, Internal Security assistant minister Simon Lesirma claimed that some delegates names had been struck off. Lesirma warned against any attempts to infiltrate the county delegates list at Orange House. “I have checked and lists of some officials from Samburu are missing from the computers at the party headquarter. We need to be on the lookout because we never know what game is taking place since we have filed our officials list at Orange House,” said the Samburu West MP. “I found other names of people who never participated in elections. Attempts to smuggle fake people as delegates can only lead to problems for ODM. If Samburu officials are missing, what else is going on with lists of other counties?” Lesirma posed. Lesirma and Samburu West MP Raphael Letimalo declared their support for Mudavadi. “We have no problem with the PM remaining the party leader. Musalia gives the party the best chance of winning the forthcoming elections," they added. Delegates from Samburu have supported the county voting system.Mudavadi said it is time the party changed formula if it wants to win the elections. “If we don’t change the formula we had in 2007, we might not succeed and that is why I am seeking your mandate to be the party flag bearer. I can assure you we will get the win to form the government," he said. Mudavadi was accompanied by Information assistant minister George Khaniri and Emuhaya constituency ODM chairman Khalid Njiraini. This week, Mudavadi heads to Narok, Tana River, Garissa, West Pokot and Turkana counties. the-star.co.ke/national/national/67771-odm-delegates-backing-mudavadi-intimidated |
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Post by Dumekenya on Mar 23, 2012 10:56:13 GMT 3
He has this thing of always making enemies. First he sidelined Ruto and with that lost the Rift Valley Kalenjin vote. If he doesn't grovel on his knees and keep Mudavadi happy, he'll see another massive chunk of voters walk out on him. Wetangula will profit him nothing. Raila is his own worst enemy and I say this with evidence to follow.
njugunajohn? ;D za kwako kaka? hope you are fine.
the star has a cover story that would put a smile on your face... you know the type you rush here with. there are so many of them out here that i wish you would be indulging some of us offline whenever you feel sufficiently inspired to spew hate at agwambo and odm.
for us though, these negative publicity is, as we say in bondo, the water that we gargle after meal .nothing cryptic of that, just saying that we get better with every negativity against raila and odm.
The messengers of doom to ODM are relentlessy trying by all means Tactics to wreck the formidable party as all Kenyans know it. Very interesting. ODM as a party must have stragtegies to mark time the opponnets and I am happy they have done it so well. The Mudavadi story vs Raila to me is neither here nor there but it was strategically coined to disparage the focus of G7 and you will agree with they- (the G7 conglomerate have nothing) to sell to Kenyans instead they concetrate in discussing the collapse of ODM and Raila. Somebody should have advised them not to have taken that root Why? Because they are only increasingly giving credits to ODM and Raila. I fully support Mudavadi's mission and guyz trust me watch the space the opponents will receive a shocker of their lifetime when the ripe time comes. Allow me to say Mudavadi ditchng ODM is a very long pipe dream and even if he ditches ODM still remains the party to watch in the next governing dispesation. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 30, 2012 0:28:16 GMT 3
... and the problems never seem to end for this party. One wonders why such a simple and progressive issue as having an open door policy in terms of who wants to vie for whatever seat should be so hard to think through. Must we have meetings upon meetings to consider such an obvious issue? Whereas parties can be said to be like private members' clubs, they nonetheless a critical cog in the democratic process and ought to therefore promote some of the basic principles of democracy especially individual rights. ODM needs to wake up and smell the coffee, we have long since graduated from the baba na mama days. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Orange+party+to+meet+over+clause+on+polls+/-/1064/1376360/-/item/0/-/778kl2/-/index.html |
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Post by tnk on Mar 30, 2012 0:45:57 GMT 3
... and the problems never seem to end for this party. One wonders why such a simple and progressive issue as having an open door policy in terms of who wants to vie for whatever seat should be so hard to think through. Must we have meetings upon meetings to consider such an obvious issue? Whereas parties can be said to be like private members' clubs, they nonetheless a critical cog in the democratic process and ought to therefore promote some of the basic principles of democracy especially individual rights. ODM needs to wake up and smell the coffee, we have long since graduated from the baba na mama days. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Orange+party+to+meet+over+clause+on+polls+/-/1064/1376360/-/item/0/-/778kl2/-/index.htmland what party is Uhuru, the Chairman of KANU, going to use to stand for the GEMA led presidency? these are simple matters for one so popular ;D ;D |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 30, 2012 1:44:56 GMT 3
... and the problems never seem to end for this party. One wonders why such a simple and progressive issue as having an open door policy in terms of who wants to vie for whatever seat should be so hard to think through. Must we have meetings upon meetings to consider such an obvious issue? Whereas parties can be said to be like private members' clubs, they nonetheless a critical cog in the democratic process and ought to therefore promote some of the basic principles of democracy especially individual rights. ODM needs to wake up and smell the coffee, we have long since graduated from the baba na mama days. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Orange+party+to+meet+over+clause+on+polls+/-/1064/1376360/-/item/0/-/778kl2/-/index.htmland what party is Uhuru, the Chairman of KANU, going to use to stand for the GEMA led presidency? these are simple matters for one so popular ;D ;D Actually the problem Uhuru is facing in KANU is very similar to what Mudavadi is facing in ODM; people treating parties as personal property. That is what the two are fighting, to liberate and democratize the two parties. |
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Post by tnk on Mar 30, 2012 2:15:18 GMT 3
and what party is Uhuru, the Chairman of KANU, going to use to stand for the GEMA led presidency? these are simple matters for one so popular ;D ;D Actually the problem Uhuru is facing in KANU is very similar to what Mudavadi is facing in ODM; people treating parties as personal property. That is what the two are fighting, to liberate and democratize the two parties. hahaha dude you should start writing comedy uhuru wants to be flag bearer of KANU, but the only thing he can bring to the table is GEMA Limuru 2 endorsement it won't fly. the SG and VC are asking him where has he been? the party is at its lowest while he's been dining and wining with the alliances it is uhuru who is treating KANU as a personal property. notice that the KANU top leadership bodies have been unable to function because the powers are vested in the chairman, and the chairman is everywhere else but. uhuru was given KANU on a silver platter, he, like his mentor kibaki, has not just squandered but totally wrecked the party tell me, how can the entire GEMA overwhelmingly endorse uhuru, and yet the same GEMA cannot touch KANU? who is fooling who? mudavadi on the other hand wants to take a stab at leading ODM, as things stand he will loose, his fight is therefore to give himself some headstart. good luck with that. |
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 30, 2012 7:27:44 GMT 3
Actually the problem Uhuru is facing in KANU is very similar to what Mudavadi is facing in ODM; people treating parties as personal property. That is what the two are fighting, to liberate and democratize the two parties. hahaha dude you should start writing comedy uhuru wants to be flag bearer of KANU, but the only thing he can bring to the table is GEMA Limuru 2 endorsement it won't fly. the SG and VC are asking him where has he been? the party is at its lowest while he's been dining and wining with the alliances it is uhuru who is treating KANU as a personal property. notice that the KANU top leadership bodies have been unable to function because the powers are vested in the chairman, and the chairman is everywhere else but. uhuru was given KANU on a silver platter, he, like his mentor kibaki, has not just squandered but totally wrecked the party tell me, how can the entire GEMA overwhelmingly endorse uhuru, and yet the same GEMA cannot touch KANU? who is fooling who? mudavadi on the other hand wants to take a stab at leading ODM, as things stand he will loose, his fight is therefore to give himself some headstart. good luck with that. Mkuu tnk,hawa watu wametumwa bwana!!!...Even an obvious fact like that is twisted bila hata aibu!... and they can't even realise the futlity of the fallacy they are trying to sell. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 30, 2012 17:59:41 GMT 3
It seems like officials at the orange house are being arm-twisted to act in a certain manner. the-star.co.ke/national/national/69100-odm-nec-meeting-postponed-for-3rd-timeWith the much publicized PMs new presidential campaign secretariat which among other things saw one of Mudavadi's political nemesis come in, speaks volumes as to where things are headed. It is just a matter of time, it seems. |
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Post by mzee on Jun 25, 2012 11:20:34 GMT 3
Musalia Mudumb Mudavadi has all of a sudden found himself in an unfamiliar territory. When he left ODM he thought that his only headache would be Raila but this has not materialized. Things seem to be getting thicker and thicker for this man. Being made a project is one thing but upholding “projecthood” is another bag of potatoes not to mention hiding the fact that one is a project. He is now being bullied left right and center not by non ODMers. While his campaign has been based on Raila this and that, he now has to defend the fact that he is a project of the state house and it seems tougher than shouting Raila all day long. Infact he is now being bundled together with Ruto as state house projects. Uhuru Kenyatta for whom they are making a political bed is laughing his head off knowing full well that he has once again made a fool of the two. Uhuru is one great playa. He has played the two amigos kama kinanda. Have a read www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060540&story_title=Mudavadi-dismisses-claim-he-is-State-project |
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Post by phil on Jun 25, 2012 15:40:03 GMT 3
Musalia Mudumb Mudavadi has all of a sudden found himself in an unfamiliar territory. When he left ODM he thought that his only headache would be Raila but this has not materialized. Things seem to be getting thicker and thicker for this man. Being made a project is one thing but upholding “projecthood” is another bag of potatoes not to mention hiding the fact that one is a project. He is now being bullied left right and center not by non ODMers. While his campaign has been based on Raila this and that, he now has to defend the fact that he is a project of the state house and it seems tougher than shouting Raila all day long. Infact he is now being bundled together with Ruto as state house projects. Uhuru Kenyatta for whom they are making a political bed is laughing his head off knowing full well that he has once again made a fool of the two. Uhuru is one great playa. He has played the two amigos kama kinanda. Have a read www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060540&story_title=Mudavadi-dismisses-claim-he-is-State-projectYou are right @ Mzee Uhuru has issued a terse statement this afternoon not just disowning Mudavadi talks, but also telling Mudavadi's UDF to stop pretending they can and "that they must stop running with the hare and hunting with the dogs"........ ouch!!!! www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2012/06/uhuru-denies-talks-with-mudavadi/And now that we are talking alliances, what would happen if TNA, NFK and others went into an alliance with ODM? |
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Post by phil on Jun 25, 2012 15:52:39 GMT 3
This is not a good time of being a perceived project.
After being heckled Teso residents, Mudavadi has reportedly been stopped from addressing a gathering in Kitale by roudy residents. Both regions are in Western where we keep hearing that Mudavadi enjoys immense support. What a load of crap!
It is finally dawning on Mudavadi that even the common man knows he is a state house project and a complete waste of time in so far as the presidential race is concerned.
As if Uhuru knows this, he has been categorical in asking UDF MPs following Mudavadi to stick to UDF matters and keep off those of TNA.
Mudavadi should concentrate on enjoying running ceremonial presidential errands while it lasts. Kibaki will soon be out of office and Mudavadi will be left with his UDF that was given to him by Mary Wambui. Bure kabisa.
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Post by mzee on Jun 25, 2012 16:07:13 GMT 3
Phil,
I did not know that UK disowned Mudavadis madness of running around trying to create imaginary alliances while shouting RAO this and that. When Mudumb was told that he was not presidential material he did not believe it.
It’s funny that the very people who nudged him into leaving ODM are the same who are now shunning and avoiding him like plague. I guess that this must be painful for Mudavadi but again who asked him to join the amorphous G7 which was on it death bed.
Now he is only left with Khalwale and Shitanda. No wonder he supported the bill that creates room for a presidential contender to vie for any other post. It has dawned on him that UK is not dropping the race to state house on his behalf. Is this going to be a bigger blunder on the part of Mudavadi than when his constituents refused to elect him even after being handed the post of VP.
Uhuru is a master playa. What surprises me is the speed by which he chewed and spat out Mudavadi like some dirty mbaki.
By the way and ODM, TNA, NFK combination would be a killer but I dont think it will ever happen.
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Post by job on Jun 25, 2012 18:20:39 GMT 3
This is not a good time of being a perceived project.
After being heckled by Teso residents, Mudavadi has reportedly been stopped from addressing a gathering in Kitale by roudy residents. Both regions are in Western where we keep hearing that Mudavadi enjoys immense support. What a load of crap!
It is finally dawning on Mudavadi that even the common man knows he is a state house project and a complete waste of time in so far as the presidential race is concerned.
As if Uhuru knows this, he has been categorical in asking UDF MPs following Mudavadi to stick to UDF matters and keep off those of TNA.
Mudavadi should concentrate on enjoying running ceremonial presidential errands while it lasts. Kibaki will soon be out of office and Mudavadi will be left with his UDF that was given to him by Mary Wambui. Bure kabisa. When Mudavadi was handed the sharp knife to stab RAO's back, he forgot to factor in the Uhuru equation. I'll come back to this later. Mudavadi also seems a poor student of history; who failed to read what happened to previous State House helpers like Kalonzo Musyoka. It's now a perfect record that all political allies who've previously helped State House, since the LDP-NAK partnership, have been disowned if not thrown under buses and choppers. Recent State House water-can carriers like Eugene Wamalwa are beginning to speak out (at the prompting of natural rebels like Jirongo). Others like Kalonzo are forced to stay quiet despite the betrayal - precisely as the only guarantee for hanging onto the Veep perks. Curiously, William Ruto has already tasted the same medicine...which has even spurred his drive to campaign even more vigorously. Sadly, opportunist politicians are taking great advantage, milking largess from Ruto under false premises of temporary dalliances which would be shortly reversed in a string of further defections. As Teso, Bungoma, Emuhaya and other residents of Musalia's own backyard unveil the latter as the project (that he is), the reality of the ICC conundrum keeps rearing its head. With statements like these at Capital FM news, Uhuru Kenyatta keeps reminding Mudavadi to keep his fantasy within reasonable limits. I repeat for the umpteenth time - Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta certainly appreciates the fact that only President Uhuru (ala Sudanese President Omar al Bashir) can save him from serving a life term behind bars (plus stripping of colossal amount of Kenyatta assets - to compensate hundreds of ICC victims). While Mudavadi keeps dreaming (in suicidal fashion) that Uhuru might leave this chance to him, muthamaki himself links the presidential run directly to his own safety from the judicial grip of the ICC. Kenyatta is very focused in directly connecting his own personal and financial freedom to accessing power over the Kenyan state. His presidential run is thus entirely for survival - it's a do or die situation. Therefore, Uhuru holds a very nuanced and sophisticated view of Mudavadi's run. On one hand, he appreciates Mudavadi's bolting out of ODM; creating political confusion amongst the (former) Western province electorate. This he hopes, could negatively impact upon his real competitor in the race to president - Raila Odinga. On the other hand, Uhuru is awake to the possibility that should Mudavadi's run gather enough momentum, he himself could become its first casualty. Uhuru is totally aware that a President Mudavadi can't save him from the ICC; infact the latter would easily volunteer cooperation with ICC just to keep Kenya in good international books. Thus whenever Uhuru senses the Mudavadi juggernaut gathering little steam, he won't hesitate to (send Wamalwa & others) to pour ice-cold water on it. It is apparent that some Railaphobes in Central, like Jeremiah Kioni, Nderitu Muriithi (possibly sponsored by the drug-running activist), care less about Uhuru's personal problems at the ICC; so long as they sense a credible alternative that can stop Raila from assuming power. That cold thrust of Uhuru under the bus (by relatives of the State House occupier) irks muthamaki...who is totally aware that compromise presidential alternatives can't save him. The chickens are coming home to roost...and when the dust settles as these intrigues evolve, my bet for the two standing horses would be Uhuru Kenyatta and Raila Odinga. It is inevitably shaping. That's when real alliances shall start forming. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Jun 27, 2012 0:05:39 GMT 3
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Post by wilsonle on Jun 27, 2012 11:36:28 GMT 3
what all the uproar while the obvious is now manifesting itself?
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Post by adongo23456 on Jul 2, 2012 15:22:18 GMT 3
And now Mudavadi is addessing buildings in Nyeri. Oh boy! Is it moi who said that if it is not there then it is NOT there? Talk about a bridge to nowhere. |
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Post by mzee on Jul 2, 2012 15:39:32 GMT 3
Mudavadi has been knocked out by Uhurus bid. It does not matter how much he campaigns.
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Post by adongo23456 on Jul 2, 2012 15:55:24 GMT 3
Mudavadi has been knocked out by Uhurus bid. It does not matter how much he campaigns. You are damn right. Barring anything else this thing is going to come down to Raila and Uhuru in round two. Fair enough. The pretenders are going home empty handed. And they have put themselves in straight jackets. You can't move back. You can only move forward into a glaring ditch. That must be very painful. Mudamba has no exit strategy. He must move on even when he knows he is going nowhere. Ruto too has no exit strategy. Ruto must move on even though he knows he is going nowhere. Poor Kalonzo must move on even though he knows he is going nowhere. Uhuru has a shot but he must face Raila with the ICC relentlessly on his tail. Messy and messier. Bring it on fellas. It is show time. |
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Post by mzee on Jul 2, 2012 16:15:29 GMT 3
Banking on beating Raila with regional/tribal votes alone won't wash. That's why akina ruto believe that they must lock Raila out in the first round for in the second round none of them has a chance against Raila. Of all the pretenders, its Raila that has a national following. Uhuru is banking on the huge kikuyu vote but that's it.
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Post by raiswakesho on Jul 2, 2012 23:10:17 GMT 3
Why does MM feel that Kibaki needs his protection? Why hasn' t the state house reacted to this crap? Eti, Moi alilinda the Kenyattas na Kibaki akalinda the Mois...mmhhh. Does MM know any crimes committed by the 3 gentlemen and is he willing to share the same with DPP? Who does he have in plan to protect him when he retires should he win the election? These are the questions ODM should be asking Mudavadi in the coming weeks/months. Force the guy to play defence and off message, I mean if he has any!
As we mentioned earlier, MM is a project that's going bad by day, Uhuru is determined to run and no one will convince him otherwise therefore MM will be irrelevant as long UK is in the race.
Remember MM's move to quit ODM was a very big risk that would have yielded a higher return if it went well otherwise without any hedge, the political loss will be a 200 pound guerrilla.
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Post by nalinali on Jul 7, 2012 13:18:28 GMT 3
This past week in MM's campaign:
MM, (he who speaks in the name of democracy and the rights of individuals to compete equally for political space) went pleading with potential competitors in Western Province, not to run lest they peel away his supposed total following in the region. Seems as if the son of Substone is eager to impose partial awareness on Kenyans in respect of his sworn commitment to democratic ideals.
MM's appeal to Nandi residents to view him as a political buddy of one William Confused Ruto, seems to be his knee-jerk reaction to what is said to be a snub by Uhuru's inner circle lately contrary to the earlier spirit of camaraderie bewteen the two camps.
I demand-from the obtuse Kibisu Kabatesi- an explanation as to the elements precipitating MM's naive self-immolation.
What a political specimen, this MM is? Truly?
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Post by johns on Jul 8, 2012 1:29:44 GMT 3
Why does MM feel that Kibaki needs his protection? Why hasn' t the state house reacted to this crap? Eti, Moi alilinda the Kenyattas na Kibaki akalinda the Mois...mmhhh. Does MM know any crimes committed by the 3 gentlemen and is he willing to share the same with DPP? Who does he have in plan to protect him when he retires should he win the election? These are the questions ODM should be asking Mudavadi in the coming weeks/months. Force the guy to play defence and off message, I mean if he has any! As we mentioned earlier, MM is a project that's going bad by day, Uhuru is determined to run and no one will convince him otherwise therefore MM will be irrelevant as long UK is in the race. Remember MM's move to quit ODM was a very big risk that would have yielded a higher return if it went well otherwise without any hedge, the political loss will be a 200 pound guerrilla. , Well it appears you are not the only one asking what Mudavadi shall be protecting Mwai Kibaki from. It appears the kind of mindset that informs Mudavadis candidature does not belong to the modern kenya we all want to create. Here is Wamugundas take on the same: What does Kibaki need protecting from? By DOMINIC WAMUGUNDA Posted Saturday, July 7 2012 at 18:46 Simple concepts are ordinarily loaded with meaning. That is why pronouncements that may sound innocent and are probably just meant to create conversation tend to catch my eye. One such pronouncement was made last weekend and it has not only confirmed my worst fears but also left me worried about the future of Kenya. One would have to think that Musalia Mudavadi — together with those who are propelling him in Central Province — is totally incapable of understanding the signs of the times, or that he has absolutely no regard for the intelligence of fellow Kenyans. It is either these two alternatives or maybe those of us who have never tasted aristocratic living are totally in the dark — and it is quite likely we are — about something that those in the know have to protect each other against. Could it possibly be us? Mudavadi was reported as having told the people of Nyeri — Kibaki’s home turf — that in the event that he becomes president, he will protect Kibaki — and I suppose his family — in the same manner that Kibaki has protected Moi and his family. As I say, this statement confirmed my worst fears. It called to mind the events of 2002 when Moi picked a “project” of his own that went against how others in his team — the Railas, the Kalonzos, the Saitotis (God rest his soul in peace), the Kamothos, and so on — would have wanted things to turn out. Could that also have been about protection? What is it that anyone — president or not — has to be protected against? In our laws, there are provisions as to how a former president should be looked after. I am also convinced that even if a former president enjoys better protection than any other ordinary Kenyan, it is only the rule of law that will ultimately protect all of us. Share This Story Share Why would there be a need for protection by an individual and not by the law that we “all” fought for, not to mention that many Kenyans died for? The Mudavadis of this world are totally in denial as to the kind of Kenya we have become. Has he not seen the president’s appointments being overturned either by the Judiciary or by Parliament? His mindset may still be that of days gone — and one would understand — but Kenya is in a new constitutional mood. One only hopes that people who think like him are not seeking leadership to kill the gains of the new constitutional order. Father Wamugunda is dean of students and sociology lecturer at the University of Nairobi wamugundaw@uonbi.ac.ke |
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Post by phil on Jul 8, 2012 10:05:57 GMT 3
Bankruptcy of ideas from Mudavadi, not suprising for those who knew him since his Nyayo and ODM days.
Remove Raila from the equation and the likes of Mudavadi draw a blank. In other words, their manifestos are premised on anti-RAO sentiments.
Mudavadi makes Kalonzo (of all people) begin to look enlightened.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jul 9, 2012 22:00:50 GMT 3
Bankruptcy of ideas from Mudavadi, not suprising for those who knew him since his Nyayo and ODM days. Remove Raila from the equation and the likes of Mudavadi draw a blank. In other words, their manifestos are premised on anti-RAO sentiments. Mudavadi makes Kalonzo (of all people) begin to look enlightened. Looks like your nemesis is having a great time on the road as witnessed in Nandi county over the weekend. The man's momentum has kina Wetangula running all over. Here he is:       |
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Post by Mobimba on Jul 9, 2012 22:29:54 GMT 3
Mwalim,
I have to admit, those were impressive crowds. Being from the RV, do you suppose they prefer Mudavadi to Ruto? I ask because recent developments at the ICC point at Ruto being on the ballot... come what may. We of course do not want Mudavadi splitting the RV vote to the detriment of Ruto. Right?
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