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Post by b6k on Aug 19, 2012 10:34:51 GMT 3
Kipchumba Murkomen's view on "Peeling Back The Mask": The PM's "reform" tag has been "punctured". Even Makali, a former ODM propagandist (he once held Phil's day job), had to concede that the international community may have to re-examine Raila who they assumed was their "blue eyed boy" in KE's political cesspool. ;D ;D now it heats up:) Blue Boy? The International community has seen through Miguna's propaganda, innuendo"s allegations which he can't substantiate, Why hasn't Canadian Government supported him if indeed they believed his allegations? Gathongo was very welcomed in the UK and encouraged to proceed to fight the corruption in government " he had tapes too" to proof. International community deals in facts not fiction... ;D & what do you make of this R911? (iii) Event Programme: We kept it simple and flowing. The Canadian High Commissioner to Kenya, H.E. David Collins, gave a short but warm address hailing the ties between the two countries and underscoring Canada’s role in supporting the democratization process in Kenya by among other things providing protection to exiles like Miguna Miguna, Adongo Ogony, Onyango Oloo and others, not forgetting supporting the constitutional review process. A native of Ghana, Retired Judge, Hon. Justice Edward Torgbor,( LLB, LLM, Dip Int Law)whose brilliant professional career includes teaching at the University of Nairobi in International Commercial Arbitration and currently Associate Professor of Mercantile Law at the University of Stellenbosch in South Africa gave very insightful remarks on the themes of justice and writing. demokrasia-kenya.blogspot.com/2012/07/clinical-assessment-of-migunas-book.html
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Post by phil on Aug 19, 2012 12:01:18 GMT 3
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE FINAL LIBERATION OF KENYA By MIGUNA MIGUNA, August 16, 2012 (......) ....., on the illusive but yet incomplete liberation struggle for our country; liberation from totalitarianism, intolerance, exploitation, inequalities, inequities, corruption, tribalism and nepotism. Yes, liberation from the poor and deceptive leaders; and from the criminally high rates of unemployment and poverty!
These are our main ailments as a people. They are the main issues CRAP, totally needless crap statement, says phil in toto! Really? Just a moment fella! Miguna gives a concise summary of what, in his opinion, are the major ailments of Kenya. That is, his socio/political diagnosis. He reveals his state of the kauntry ;D - gateways preferred pronounciation, his thinking on which problems are priorities. Now, opinions being like arzholes, according to Dirty Harry Clint, others can weigh in with theirs, to debate and contest the best of the lot. But what does the ODM mole phil do?. He says, a needless and total crap of a statement! That is dismissal without worthwile substantiation. Phil does not bother to take to task each of the elements in the diagnosis, to show case upon us why it is crap. Why this incapability. Neither does Phil author his own alternative diagnosis, his own state of the union as it were. He simply miaws like a stray cat, and scampers off to post more pornographics of ODM rallies. Maybe it pays well. It does not occur to him, our ODM-valve, that he could for instance, taking one example, detail his disagreement with Miguna´s position on the situation of workers. That in his opinion there is no exploitation as MM alleges, because our workers are some of the best paid forces in the world -- are not our MPigs and government jet set the best paid in the world etc etc. No?On a debating political blog, when one offers such a concise import of his thinking as Miguna has done in the section I herald above, whether it is for propaganda like is the case in political party manifestos, it will not be enough to dismiss offhand without offering an alternative pitch, nor puncturing logic, nor factual critique, nor better analysis, that will reduce the propositions being contested to fit the chosen adjective. Total crap in the case of Phil vs Miguna In the light of this gaping intellectual deficit, I posit it is Phil´s mind which, here, is revealed to be crappy scrap, inadequate, and essentially the inferior of Miguna´s. I suggest you, phil, further restrict yourself to photo-reports of ODM rallies. There I will give you a lacklustre pass . For consitency and dedication. Remember rallies are stagemanaged events, yap, propaganda shows, therefore without --for balance, photos of Kenyans in their daily labours in real lives --crushing rock in quarries past Mlolongo for 10 hrs day on a scoop of beans, hawking some chinese lightware in marathon to-and-fro walks from Kawangware to Westland shopping center, etc etc, your photo-reports do not mean much as political discourse. They are unipolar. Just propaganda stuff. A tale of studio portraits of black miners under apartheid. Glossies. But I really do not think you can get what am saying. Too much kenchic and GM stuff in your diet I bet! Otherwise, for instance, you would have the sense to use the word crap appropriately. On your own jukwaa stuff. Bure kabisa. Crap. A totally needless statement.The elephant in the room is whether Miguna will immediately record a statement with police regarding his outbursts during his book launch that ODM met to plan PEV in 2008. Or at the very least table evidence to back up his outrageous claims. Isnt it funny Miguna has all but abandoned his Nyando home and village folks where it may have been ideal to take a vacation and instead opts to go take fly thousands of miles for vacation whilst taking accomodation in a student dormitory somewhere in Canada, then coming back to lecture Kenyans on how to go about their lives? The false bravado being displayed at JKIA is evident. Miguna has - ironically - gone to bed with the very people he is seemingly castigating upon his return. Until recently as broke as a church mouse, Miguna was financed and funds paid into his personal offshore accounts to publish his book and continue his public anti-Raila rhetoric. Perhaps this is what the vacation was all about! What shameless hypocrisy and greed! Ati Raila should first reveal who financed publishing of his book before Miguna does the same. Bure kabisa! [/quote] I was called last night about this intelligent analysis focusing on one word. I can see someone's obsession with yours truly is as alive as ever. I may as well identify myself to you so you can continue your pursuit physically. My comments in jukwaa + threads run into their hundreds. I exchange private messages, emails, phone calls, social sittings and formal meetings with many Jukwaa members plus many other non-Jukwaa members. Not all of them share your thinking fortunately. I happen to know Miguna perhaps more than you do. And by the way, so what if you consider what I post to be crap, why take time to respond to crap? Why bother to read and write endless comments on what you consider stage-managed events. You realise I steer clear of your posts and have never answered to any of them. It is for a good reason. Your agenda here in Jukwaa is known to some of us. And I am damn sure you know which of my recent postings touched a raw-nerve up there. Sasa umetumwa kwangu. Tell your bosses, more is coming. You folk (and there's quite a number of you around here) think you can intimidate some of us. Wapi! Jak-whoever, please do your online job and kindly let me do mine. I can assure you that you are not about to change what I post, neither are you about to change my political beliefs nor my thinking of your hero Miguna whom I see you hold brief for. Pumbaff!
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 14:54:54 GMT 3
;D ;D now it heats up:) Blue Boy? The International community has seen through Miguna's propaganda, innuendo"s allegations which he can't substantiate, Why hasn't Canadian Government supported him if indeed they believed his allegations? Gathongo was very welcomed in the UK and encouraged to proceed to fight the corruption in government " he had tapes too" to proof. International community deals in facts not fiction... ;D & what do you make of this R911? (iii) Event Programme: We kept it simple and flowing. The Canadian High Commissioner to Kenya, H.E. David Collins, gave a short but warm address hailing the ties between the two countries and underscoring Canada’s role in supporting the democratization process in Kenya by among other things providing protection to exiles like Miguna Miguna, Adongo Ogony, Onyango Oloo and others, not forgetting supporting the constitutional review process. A native of Ghana, Retired Judge, Hon. Justice Edward Torgbor,( LLB, LLM, Dip Int Law)whose brilliant professional career includes teaching at the University of Nairobi in International Commercial Arbitration and currently Associate Professor of Mercantile Law at the University of Stellenbosch in South Africa gave very insightful remarks on the themes of justice and writing. demokrasia-kenya.blogspot.com/2012/07/clinical-assessment-of-migunas-book.htmlAnd where does it say that the Canadian Government supports Miguna's book of innuendo's lies and allegations? PASTE the exact words or speech from the Canadian government through the Global mail or CBC Canada Media> Listen up all super powers UK, USA, Germany Russia, etc preach about human rights, corruption, justice.. that has been the mantra for ever.. so lets not use a open daily discussions used by foreign powers daily.. Post on here any country that has come out in support of Miguna's book, mentioning Miguna in one sentence!! ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 14:58:15 GMT 3
CRAP, totally needless crap statement, says phil in toto! Really? Just a moment fella! Miguna gives a concise summary of what, in his opinion, are the major ailments of Kenya. That is, his socio/political diagnosis. He reveals his state of the kauntry ;D - gateways preferred pronounciation, his thinking on which problems are priorities. Now, opinions being like arzholes, according to Dirty Harry Clint, others can weigh in with theirs, to debate and contest the best of the lot. But what does the ODM mole phil do?. He says, a needless and total crap of a statement! That is dismissal without worthwile substantiation. Phil does not bother to take to task each of the elements in the diagnosis, to show case upon us why it is crap. Why this incapability. Neither does Phil author his own alternative diagnosis, his own state of the union as it were. He simply miaws like a stray cat, and scampers off to post more pornographics of ODM rallies. Maybe it pays well. It does not occur to him, our ODM-valve, that he could for instance, taking one example, detail his disagreement with Miguna´s position on the situation of workers. That in his opinion there is no exploitation as MM alleges, because our workers are some of the best paid forces in the world -- are not our MPigs and government jet set the best paid in the world etc etc. No?On a debating political blog, when one offers such a concise import of his thinking as Miguna has done in the section I herald above, whether it is for propaganda like is the case in political party manifestos, it will not be enough to dismiss offhand without offering an alternative pitch, nor puncturing logic, nor factual critique, nor better analysis, that will reduce the propositions being contested to fit the chosen adjective. Total crap in the case of Phil vs Miguna In the light of this gaping intellectual deficit, I posit it is Phil´s mind which, here, is revealed to be crappy scrap, inadequate, and essentially the inferior of Miguna´s. I suggest you, phil, further restrict yourself to photo-reports of ODM rallies. There I will give you a lacklustre pass . For consitency and dedication. Remember rallies are stagemanaged events, yap, propaganda shows, therefore without --for balance, photos of Kenyans in their daily labours in real lives --crushing rock in quarries past Mlolongo for 10 hrs day on a scoop of beans, hawking some chinese lightware in marathon to-and-fro walks from Kawangware to Westland shopping center, etc etc, your photo-reports do not mean much as political discourse. They are unipolar. Just propaganda stuff. A tale of studio portraits of black miners under apartheid. Glossies. But I really do not think you can get what am saying. Too much kenchic and GM stuff in your diet I bet! Otherwise, for instance, you would have the sense to use the word crap appropriately. On your own jukwaa stuff. Bure kabisa. Crap. A totally needless statement.The elephant in the room is whether Miguna will immediately record a statement with police regarding his outbursts during his book launch that ODM met to plan PEV in 2008. Or at the very least table evidence to back up his outrageous claims. Isnt it funny Miguna has all but abandoned his Nyando home and village folks where it may have been ideal to take a vacation and instead opts to go take fly thousands of miles for vacation whilst taking accomodation in a student dormitory somewhere in Canada, then coming back to lecture Kenyans on how to go about their lives? The false bravado being displayed at JKIA is evident. Miguna has - ironically - gone to bed with the very people he is seemingly castigating upon his return. Until recently as broke as a church mouse, Miguna was financed and funds paid into his personal offshore accounts to publish his book and continue his public anti-Raila rhetoric. Perhaps this is what the vacation was all about! What shameless hypocrisy and greed! Ati Raila should first reveal who financed publishing of his book before Miguna does the same. Bure kabisa! Amen!! Miguna Groupies seem to be coming out of the open yani they are salivating for a showdown and are becoming more desperate ;D well said phil
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 19, 2012 15:43:27 GMT 3
I was called last night about this intelligent analysis focusing on one word. I can see someone's obsession with yours truly is as alive as ever. I may as well identify myself to you so you can continue your pursuit physically. My comments in jukwaa + threads run into their hundreds. I exchange private messages, emails, phone calls, social sittings and formal meetings with many Jukwaa members plus many other non-Jukwaa members. Not all of them share your thinking fortunately. I happen to know Miguna perhaps more than you do. And by the way, so what if you consider what I post to be crap, why take time to respond to crap? Why bother to read and write endless comments on what you consider stage-managed events. You realise I steer clear of your posts and have never answered to any of them. It is for a good reason. Your agenda here in Jukwaa is known to some of us. And I am damn sure you know which of my recent postings touched a raw-nerve up there. Sasa umetumwa kwangu. Tell your bosses, more is coming. You folk (and there's quite a number of you around here) think you can intimidate some of us. Wapi! Jak-whoever, please do your online job and kindly let me do mine. I can assure you that you are not about to change what I post, neither are you about to change my political beliefs nor my thinking of your hero Miguna whom I see you hold brief for. Pumbaff! Don't worry phil, I have a different explanation as to why you avoid my posts. Gimiyo wiyi pupni kaka nyagweno ming'ado ng'ute. But I cannot help it, you see my calling is teaching, whose mission is to erase ignorance and mental laxity wherever it may be found. It so happens you are amply rewarded with the above, and as such, I find you irresistible and have adopted you as my project. Pro bono. Also because you have potential which, under good coaching, can develop into something rewarding. I will force you into homework, even if like a budding adolescence caught at lazy, you ask who the hell I think I am. And you are readily available on jukwaa which is my local. I am the whip you can only avoid by upping your game. Do not let yourself be paid to be stupid. Of course you are sent to test opinions on Jukwaa and I know it. Since when did you express your own opinion on jukwaa? your stuff is to castigate. And on Miguna you are an attack dog unleashed on him. I decided to kick your chest because you had become too much. Pleasue indulge yourself in the mental activity called thinking, and discover the pleasures of debate. Folks here are not all like you, paid to be on Jukwaa. I just enjoy the array of wit, and the depths of thought. And the diversity of character. Look at this tnk for instance. I am awed at his capacity to always concentrate on the points, the facts, without the blood curdling venom such as I here inject you with. He and abdulmote, have a combination of intellect and discipline which, frankly, I would aspire to. My upward learning curve. But with crap like phil writing crap on Jukwaa, the jakaswangas of this world must kick-in the teeth of the phils of this world. A necessary evil! Somebody has to unblock a sewer. Thanx for the physical offer, but perhaps your wife's description would be better, so I could judge if she is worth my while to pursue.
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 19, 2012 15:52:00 GMT 3
Amen!! Miguna Groupies seem to be coming out of the open yani they are salivating for a showdown and are becoming more desperate ;D well said phil Amen! are you coming?! just discoverd what makes you tick! Amen! ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 16:42:13 GMT 3
Amen!! Miguna Groupies seem to be coming out of the open yani they are salivating for a showdown and are becoming more desperate ;D well said phil Amen! are you coming?! just discoverd what makes you tick! Amen! ;D Wrong person.. I'm sure you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 16:47:35 GMT 3
I was called last night about this intelligent analysis focusing on one word. I can see someone's obsession with yours truly is as alive as ever. I may as well identify myself to you so you can continue your pursuit physically. My comments in jukwaa + threads run into their hundreds. I exchange private messages, emails, phone calls, social sittings and formal meetings with many Jukwaa members plus many other non-Jukwaa members. Not all of them share your thinking fortunately. I happen to know Miguna perhaps more than you do. And by the way, so what if you consider what I post to be crap, why take time to respond to crap? Why bother to read and write endless comments on what you consider stage-managed events. You realise I steer clear of your posts and have never answered to any of them. It is for a good reason. Your agenda here in Jukwaa is known to some of us. And I am damn sure you know which of my recent postings touched a raw-nerve up there. Sasa umetumwa kwangu. Tell your bosses, more is coming. You folk (and there's quite a number of you around here) think you can intimidate some of us. Wapi! Jak-whoever, please do your online job and kindly let me do mine. I can assure you that you are not about to change what I post, neither are you about to change my political beliefs nor my thinking of your hero Miguna whom I see you hold brief for. Pumbaff! Don't worry phil, I have a different explanation as to why you avoid my posts. Gimiyo wiyi pupni kaka nyagweno ming'ado ng'ute. But I cannot help it, you see my calling is teaching, whose mission is to erase ignorance and mental laxity wherever it may be found. It so happens you are amply rewarded with the above, and as such, I find you irresistible and have adopted you as my project. Pro bono. Also because you have potential which, under good coaching, can develop into something rewarding. I will force you into homework, even if like a budding adolescence caught at lazy, you ask who the hell I think I am. And you are readily available on jukwaa which is my local. I am the whip you can only avoid by upping your game. Do not let yourself be paid to be stupid. Of course you are sent to test opinions on Jukwaa and I know it. Since when did you express your own opinion on jukwaa? your stuff is to castigate. And on Miguna you are an attack dog unleashed on him. I decided to kick your chest because you had become too much. Pleasue indulge yourself in the mental activity called thinking, and discover the pleasures of debate. Folks here are not all like you, paid to be on Jukwaa. I just enjoy the array of wit, and the depths of thought. And the diversity of character. Look at this tnk for instance. I am awed at his capacity to always concentrate on the points, the facts, without the blood curdling venom such as I here inject you with. He and abdulmote, have a combination of intellect and discipline which, frankly, I would aspire to. My upward learning curve. But with crap like phil writing crap on Jukwaa, the jakaswangas of this world must kick-in the teeth of the phils of this world. A necessary evil! Somebody has to unblock a sewer. Thanx for the physical offer, but perhaps your wife's description would be better, so I could judge if she is worth my while to pursue. Does this mean all Kenyans demanding Miguna substantiated all allegations and innuendo's in his book including his announcements on National Media that he is withholding crucial "PEV" information are now termed as attack dogs unleashed on poor Miguna? ;D ;D amazing ;D when people are desperate they result to insults and name calling.. what a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 17:51:58 GMT 3
Amen! are you coming?! just discoverd what makes you tick! Amen! ;D Wrong person.. I'm user you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D who cums for you jakaswanga? tell us more. reporter911 has us curious. Do you have just one or more like the zuma? After all you're African and yes that's your culture. no? you Kenyans are going to kill me. I'm laughing this bright summer morning here in tdot!!
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 19:55:51 GMT 3
Wrong person.. I'm user you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D who cums for you jakaswanga? tell us more. reporter911 has us curious. Do you have just one or more like the zuma? After all you're African and yes that's your culture. no? you Kenyans are going to kill me. I'm laughing this bright summer morning here in tdot!! Ask him? kweli not sure why he mentioned it I 'm more interested on whether Miguna informed him when he is going to present the crucial information is withholding on "PEV" hiyo tu..
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 19, 2012 20:15:41 GMT 3
Wrong person.. I'm user you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D who cums for you jakaswanga? tell us more. reporter911 has us curious. Do you have just one or more like the zuma? After all you're African and yes that's your culture. no? you Kenyans are going to kill me. I'm laughing this bright summer morning here in tdot!! Kathure, will you please inform the robot R-something, that sensible consensus now, is that MM was hot-airing. So that would be a very long wait, that evidence. So R-something has to find something else to cum on! Of course I have a few spectacular ideas! Amen.
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 19, 2012 20:18:25 GMT 3
Amen! are you coming?! just discoverd what makes you tick! Amen! ;D Wrong person.. I'm sure you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D I am also 'user' you know. We are in this together. Wrong person? come on! come baby come! I still know what makes you tick! Amen! ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 19, 2012 20:48:25 GMT 3
Wrong person.. I'm sure you know who comes for you and what makes you tick for them.. amen ;D ;D I am also 'user' you know. We are in this together. Wrong person? come on! come baby come! I still know what makes you tick! Amen! ;D good for you keep on knowing,but why not answer Kathure's question? ama you are scared? I think that discussion should stay between you two ama? get the drift!!and why not tell your friend Miguna to hand over the crucial information he is withholding? be useful to the PEV victims are you refering to the PEV victims as "come on Baby" using Miguna's lines? they can't come since they are6ft under! how insensitive are you! wake up and get your friend to hand over the PEV information, kwani he is hiding it under the bed!! alah
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Post by phil on Aug 20, 2012 9:26:09 GMT 3
Don't worry phil, I have a different explanation as to why you avoid my posts. Gimiyo wiyi pupni kaka nyagweno ming'ado ng'ute. But I cannot help it, you see my calling is teaching, whose mission is to erase ignorance and mental laxity wherever it may be found. It so happens you are amply rewarded with the above, and as such, I find you irresistible and have adopted you as my project. Pro bono. Also because you have potential which, under good coaching, can develop into something rewarding. I will force you into homework, even if like a budding adolescence caught at lazy, you ask who the hell I think I am. And you are readily available on jukwaa which is my local. Of all things, Mr. Jakwhoever, I am least worried. I have no time nor the energy to engage state functionaries like yourself. You also seem to stupidly assume that every other individual in Jukwaa can understand your Luo interjections. Helloo, this is the internet! Not some village somewhere onthe lake shores. Tumia lugha ya taifa uondoe Ukabila na Upumbavu kwenye mtandao.It is as if I had to send an application to Jakaswanga to be admitted into Jukwaa membership. I need not express my opinion to your satisfaction for me to be at this forum. Who exactly is Jakaswanga to determine the point at which games need to be upped? I think both us (and some in Jukwaa) know why you have opted to take the direction you are taking. Hate the game mate, not the player! You have every reason to justify yourself to your pay masters. Unlike you, am here freely expressing myself and supporting the political cause I believe in. Why exactly do you send unsolicited private messages to select members of Jukwaa? Your cover was blown the minute you made your second or third posting in Jukwaa. When you shamelessly insulted the mother of a Jukwaa member! I repeat, I am not about to change my style nor am I about change my thinking of Miguna as a person. And yes, I still maintain Miguna is hypocritical crap. Most likely suffering from the same disease Jakaswanga suffers from. Most likely drawing daily bread from the same coffers. A man gotta earn a living?! Ati paid to be on Jukwaa. Look whose talking! You are free to to imagine you know who I am and what I do at Jukwaa. One hopes you can soon outgrow your misplaced superiority complex and indulge yourself in a practice known as humility. If we conduct a poll in Jukwaa on what the general feeling is; you will be shocked at what exactly people think of your daily dose exaggerated self importance. It's boring, monotonous and just nauseatic! Yes, the day when I opt to get married I may consider your sister to bring some genetic sense into the pride and arrogance of the jakaswangas. A post on Miguna suddenly being turned into a project called Phil's? Why not start a thread titled Phil - Mr. Ignorance Eraser?Crap.
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Post by podp on Aug 20, 2012 10:14:59 GMT 3
“Every single leader here, I can take to The Hague. I have it right here (hitting the palm of his hand). And I am saying come baby come… when I decide in a 500-page book not to say what the Orange Democratic Movement did in the PEV (post election violence), they should thank me, kneel before me and kiss my feet. That is how angry I am when I see some people running around like idiots.” the red color is mine for the groupies and idol worshippers to take positions aka Al Saababu and KDF style Podp,Did I read in some post that you are a professor or was that some kind of joke? Now, do you really understand the meaning of the words 'groupie' or 'idol worshiper'? Are you aware that in the process, you just exhibited a sexist attitude yet again (Kathure just warned you a few weeks ago against that, but seems not lessons were learned) and that you just called devote Christians, Muslims and members of other religions idol worshippers due to their political choices? Did you write on this board that you are an old man? If you are truly an old man, then you better start acting your age before you lose our respect.
Some of us have been going soft on you due to your supposedly advanced age. Do not take that for granted! Whispering Campaign, In my mother tongue when one starts a 'whispering campaign' one sounds exactly as you do up there. So that you are not lost assuming you are Kenyan and were mature in early 1980s the most successful 'whispering campaign; at political level was done on one Charles Njonjo. Even songs calling him traitor were composed and as day follows’ night fall he was brought down. You attempt at a 'whispering campaign' can succeed if we use real handles e.g. OO, Adongo, Job and Omwenga for example. A 'whispering campaign' on say OO would go something like A meeting O in a pub in presence of hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. Adongo says how he was instrumental in bringing back OO from cold Canada and 'look how the brat is ungrateful and is no longer supporting RAO as we agreed'. The hangers on when out of the pub each in his/her small/big ways puts a twist on ungrateful OO and just as the 'traitor; label brought Charles Njonjo down the rest becomes history. Whispering campaign wishing you success as you whisper
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 20, 2012 17:45:42 GMT 3
Podp,Did I read in some post that you are a professor or was that some kind of joke? Now, do you really understand the meaning of the words 'groupie' or 'idol worshiper'? Are you aware that in the process, you just exhibited a sexist attitude yet again (Kathure just warned you a few weeks ago against that, but seems not lessons were learned) and that you just called devote Christians, Muslims and members of other religions idol worshippers due to their political choices? Did you write on this board that you are an old man? If you are truly an old man, then you better start acting your age before you lose our respect.
Some of us have been going soft on you due to your supposedly advanced age. Do not take that for granted! Whispering Campaign, In my mother tongue when one starts a 'whispering campaign' one sounds exactly as you do up there. So that you are not lost assuming you are Kenyan and were mature in early 1980s the most successful 'whispering campaign; at political level was done on one Charles Njonjo. Even songs calling him traitor were composed and as day follows’ night fall he was brought down. You attempt at a 'whispering campaign' can succeed if we use real handles e.g. OO, Adongo, Job and Omwenga for example. A 'whispering campaign' on say OO would go something like A meeting O in a pub in presence of hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. Adongo says how he was instrumental in bringing back OO from cold Canada and 'look how the brat is ungrateful and is no longer supporting RAO as we agreed'. The hangers on when out of the pub each in his/her small/big ways puts a twist on ungrateful OO and just as the 'traitor; label brought Charles Njonjo down the rest becomes history. Whispering campaign wishing you success as you whisper hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time..with insults!!!
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Post by joblesscorner on Aug 20, 2012 18:23:30 GMT 3
hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time..with insults!!! How about understanding law 101!!!! You keep pressing on this PEV issue, who should he give the details too? will it be admissable to court ?
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Post by podp on Aug 20, 2012 18:31:35 GMT 3
Whispering Campaign, In my mother tongue when one starts a 'whispering campaign' one sounds exactly as you do up there. You attempt at a 'whispering campaign' can succeed if we use real handles e.g. OO, Adongo, Job and Omwenga for example. A 'whispering campaign' on say OO would go something like A meeting O in a pub in presence of hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. Adongo says how he was instrumental in bringing back OO from cold Canada and 'look how the brat is ungrateful and is no longer supporting RAO as we agreed'. The hangers on when out of the pub each in his/her small/big ways puts a twist on ungrateful OO and just as the 'traitor; label brought Charles Njonjo down the rest becomes history. Whispering campaign wishing you success as you whisper hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time.. with insults!!! are you a spouse of reporter101? If so you can check the synonyms of one hanger and they are coat-hanger, hook, peg. Good. Now try plural i.e. more than one if you find that insulting please teach me a better word and sorry for assuming you have a spouse in my first question which you may choose to ignore. Do not get hyper with me unless you know how to add!
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Post by einstein on Aug 20, 2012 19:58:10 GMT 3
hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time.. with insults!!! are you a spouse of reporter101? If so you can check the synonyms of one hanger and they are coat-hanger, hook, peg. Good. Now try plural i.e. more than oneif you find that insulting please teach me a better word and sorry for assuming you have a spouse in my first question which you may choose to ignore. Do not get hyper with me unless you know how to add! Prof. Podp,Hangers-on: Insult or no insult? Be the judge! Meaning: Hanger-on The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language hang·er-on (hngr-n, -ôn) n. pl. hang·ers-on (hngrz-) A sycophant; a parasite. hanger-on n pl hangers-on a sycophantic follower or dependant, esp one hoping for personal gainSynonyms: Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc. tagalong, follower: a person who accepts the leadership of anotherhanger-on: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002 noun: parasite, follower, cohort (chiefly U.S.), leech, dependant, minion, lackey, sycophant, freeloader (slang), sponger (informal), ligger (slang) e.g five thousand delegates, with 30,000 assorted hangers-onwww.thefreedictionary.com/hangers-onDefinition of HANGER-ON one that hangs around a person, place, or institution especially for personal gainSynonyms: bloodsucker, freeloader, free rider, hanger-on, moocher, parasite, sponge, sponger www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hanger-onhangers-on meaning(s) (n) someone who persistently (and annoyingly) follows alongwww.beedictionary.com/meaning/hangers-onhanger-on: noun pl. hangers-on: Webster's New World College Dictionary Copyright © 2010 by Wiley Publishing, Inc., Cleveland, Ohio. Used by arrangement with John Wiley & Sons, Inc. 1. a person who joins another, some group, etc. although not wanted2. a follower who seeks personal gain; sycophant; parasitewww.yourdictionary.com/hanger-on
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 20, 2012 21:35:08 GMT 3
Of all things, Mr. Jakwhoever, I am least worried. I have no time nor the energy to engage state functionaries like yourself. You also seem to stupidly assume that every other individual in Jukwaa can understand your Luo interjections. Helloo, this is the internet! Not some village somewhere onthe lake shores.Tumia lugha ya taifa uondoe Ukabila na Upumbavu kwenye mtandao. First, I will commend you for learning. I said I detected potential in you. (elementary pedagogy really, professional teachers on the board will catch!). Your presentation here is in the right direction. Now we will work on other things. 1. Unfortunately for you, state-functionaries like myself have a powerful discourse and independent critique to present, against the ideologically stale positions you are briefed to parrot. Perhaps you have neither the time nor the energy to engage, because you realize your cheap party propaganda will always be busted. Making it a lost case for you. So good idea for weak chins to avoid heavy punches. You are excused. 2. On the lugha ya taifa, you could just ask for a translation; you know calling Swahili lugha ya taifa maybe stretching things too far. Not much of a nation this Kenya. Kind of misfiring work in progress. The internet, is the real village. It is as if I had to send an application to Jakaswanga to be admitted into Jukwaa membership. I need not express my opinion to your satisfaction for me to be at this forum. Who exactly is Jakaswanga to determine the point at which games need to be upped? I think both us (and some in Jukwaa) know why you have opted to take the direction you are taking. Hate the game mate, not the player! You have every reason to justify yourself to your pay masters. Unlike you, am here freely expressing myself and supporting the political cause I believe in. Man you have been more of a heckler than of any opinion on Josy Janyando. And the straw for me was when, after the portion I quoted in my first missive to you where you responded crap, I realised you had not offered a critique of his analysis of the main problems of the country, but just said crap. It was time you were told to bring a bit more respect to Jukwaa and to yourself. (some people have to be taught self-respect!) Support your cause sure, but when you promote it on a political blog, you will be called upon to substantiate, you will be interrogated to show cause why it is worthy of the nation, and when found wanting, you would have to re-direct, or, like some famous domestic beast, continue knocking your head on the same wall infinite times over. If clueless and lost for response, you can of course invoke the fifth-amendment –that should be the right to silence if I remember correctly, but the implication of such a step in a debate, would be an intellectual deficit –which would make you a heckler not a debater. (Hear hear! Or crap crap!) Why exactly do you send unsolicited private messages to select members of Jukwaa? Your cover was blown the minute you made your second or third posting in Jukwaa. When you shamelessly insulted the mother of a Jukwaa member! Unsollicited? Someone has to break the ice! And you can trust me to take the risk. The battle-hardened can take a scratch on the face. Ouch! am busted yeah, but achieved a delicate insight into the character of a rabid Miguna critic. Too does not have much respect for confidentiality! As for the other stuff. He just should know people. You see he came flaunting some fake Phd, failed to look out and ran into a steam-roller, thereby getting a real permanent head damage. Let him rest in pieces. But I do empathize, Amen. )I repeat, I am not about to change my style nor am I about change my thinking of Miguna as a person. And yes, I still maintain Miguna is hypocritical crap. Most likely suffering from the same disease Jakaswanga suffers from. Most likely drawing daily bread from the same coffers. A man gotta earn a living?! It is okay to keep that opinion of the person. But here is the question. Does a hypocritical crap always think hypocritical crap and write hypocritical crap? What is the relationship between content of thought, and content of character? I guess you miss the import of that question. I am sure in your cycle you have never met anyone who is neither a pawn nor a project of another. This experience clouds your mind to generalize all characters in the world are such. Life has surprises for you in store. Ati paid to be on Jukwaa. Look whose talking! You are free to to imagine you know who I am and what I do at Jukwaa. One hopes you can soon outgrow your misplaced superiority complex and indulge yourself in a practice known as humility. If we conduct a poll in Jukwaa on what the general feeling is; you will be shocked at what exactly people think of your daily dose exaggerated self importance. It's boring, monotonous and just nauseatic! Man you have been avoiding my posts so you wouldn’t know anything about them! ;D Do not base your judgement on rumours. Go read them first. Would be nice to have you certify them crap! This poll should come. I know someone who will love its results. The expansive ego of Jakaswanga blasted to smithereens at last! Amen! Free at last! Tamed! that wretched boisterous pest from the bush! Baby you just have to come! On that prospect! Yes, the day when I opt to get married I may consider your sister to bring some genetic sense into the pride and arrogance of the jakaswangas I am afraid that would be reverse evolution, back to our apish past. So this is exaggerated self-importance on your part. A post on Miguna suddenly being turned into a project called Phil's? Why not start a thread titled Phil - Mr. Ignorance Eraser? Crap. No. A wholesale denouncement of a post without qualification with reasoned content was turned into a leaning moment. Your learning moment –Mr Thoughtless Dismissal.
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 21, 2012 0:50:30 GMT 3
hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time..with insults!!! How about understanding law 101!!!! You keep pressing on this PEV issue, who should he give the details too? will it be admissable to court ?Understanding what Law? Miguna like Tony Gachoka are screaming they have been withholding crucial PEV information? why didn't they hand it over in 2008? how about 2009 and again 2010 lets move to 2011 when Ocampo's team was asking witnesses with any information to come forward? utter nonsense.. either Miguna used the PEV announcement on National Media to promote his book hoping to make Millions $$$$$$$ or he lied or he is withholding the PEV information!! which is it? if he lied then he should face the full force of the Kenya Law and ICC.. ivyo tu!! Upuzi
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 21, 2012 0:56:49 GMT 3
hangers on like enigma, reporter101, rr and einstein. are you taking a leaf from Miguna calling people groupies by calling Jukwaa members hanger on's? insults won't stop Kenyans demanding Miguna Substantiate his allegations.. or his claim of withholding crucial PEV information.. stop wasting your time.. with insults!!! are you a spouse of reporter101? If so you can check the synonyms of one hanger and they are coat-hanger, hook, peg. Good. Now try plural i.e. more than one if you find that insulting please teach me a better word and sorry for assuming you have a spouse in my first question which you may choose to ignore. Do not get hyper with me unless you know how to add! More insults? ama.. when people are desperate such as yourself it shows in their posts on here ;D stop throwing insults at Jukwaa members.. you look lame!! Bure kabisa.. Is Miguna your wife or husband.. how about you answer that one? This thread is about Miguna isn't it?
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Post by podp on Aug 21, 2012 12:39:39 GMT 3
are you a spouse of reporter101? If so you can check the synonyms of one hanger and they are coat-hanger, hook, peg. Good. Now try plural i.e. more than one if you find that insulting please teach me a better word and sorry for assuming you have a spouse in my first question which you may choose to ignore. Do not get hyper with me unless you know how to add! More insults? ama.. when people are desperate such as yourself it shows in their posts on here ;D stop throwing insults at Jukwaa members.. you look lame!! Bure kabisa.. Is Miguna your wife or husband.. how about you answer that one? This thread is about Miguna isn't it?
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