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Post by njamba on Feb 24, 2009 14:11:42 GMT 3
I was schocked when Saitoti admitted that there rogue policemen in the Kenya Police Force. who are these Rogues and how did they get into the force and who is their leader? Most of the rumours I am getting is that the AP Police are dishing out Uniform to Mungiki. How true is this and who is behind this arming of militias? Over the last two weeks BBC have been covering RV post NARA and I saw a disturbing documentary of a Militia Training Camp in Molo. There were five Young Men with Home Made Gun who were interviewed adn they said that they are getting ready for war.
Who killed the Limuru Family?
How many People have been Killed Post PEV?
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Post by job on Feb 24, 2009 21:03:56 GMT 3
DAMNING EVIDENCE RELEASED ON ILLEGAL KILLINGS BY POLICE Police arrest of suspected Mungiki membersBY BERNARD MOMANYI Update 2 hours and 2 minutes ago NAIROBI, Kenya, Feb 24 - The Kenya National Commission on Human Rights (KNCHR) on Tuesday released damning evidence received from a police officer who claimed he was involved in the executions of 58 Mungiki suspects. Vice Chairperson Hassan Omar Hassan released a video containing confessions of the police constable Bernard Kirinya, who served at the Special Crime Prevention Unit (SPCU), before he was shot dead in October last year. In the footage, the slain officer recalls how they abducted several Mungiki leaders who went missing before their bodies were found dumped in forests, dams and mortuaries. “The testimony of the whistle blower implicates the police leadership not only with the knowledge but actually sanctioning a campaign of abductions, illegal extortions, torture and cold-blooded murder of suspected criminals, and those alleged to be Mungiki members,” Mr Hassan said. Notable cases in the late Kirinya’s confessions include the killing of Kimani Ruo, a Mungiki leader who was abducted outside the Nairobi Law Courts in June 2007, moments after he was acquitted of charges of being an adherent of the outlawed sect. Others are the killing of the wife and driver of the jailed Mungiki leader Maina Njenga and two key Mungiki leaders Ndung’u Wagacha (Acting Chairman) and Naftali Irungu (National Treasurer).The slain officer also confessed to having participated in the killing one of Kenya’s most wanted gangsters, Simon Matheri, who was gunned down by police in February 2007. In what has shocked the top leadership in the police force, the slain Mr Kirinya names several senior police officers of having given them instructions to abduct and kill Mungiki suspects, some of whose bodies have still not been found. “Having availed this information to the commission, the whistle blower informed the KNCHR that he was fearful of his security as the information was highly sensitive,” Mr Hassan said. He was then placed on a witness protection programme both within Kenya and in a neighbouring country, according to the commission officials. A few days after expressing fears for his life, Mr Hassan said that the commission received reports of the policeman’s shooting a few metres from his house in Hurlingham. “Indeed, in the morning before his execution, the whistleblower was visited by a person driving a vehicle whose registration numbers were recorded by security guards,” he added.Mr Hassan said that they later traced the registration numbers and established that the vehicle belonged to a police officer the slain cop had been working with at the Special Crimes Prevention Unit. “Based on this, we hereby call for the resignation of the police chief Mohammed Hussein Ali to pave way for thorough investigations,” the KNCHR official said.In a quick rejoinder, the Police Commissioner through his Spokesman Erick Kiraithe dismissed the human rights’ commission’s assertions as ‘mere propaganda’ and challenged them to substantiate their claims.Mr Kiraithe also accused the commission of propagating a smear campaign to discredit the force at a time when a Special Rapporteur for Human Rights Professor Philip Alston is finalising his report on extra-judicial killings.“Police Headquarters would also like to inform the public that the so called confessions have been released after our detectives started investigating information to the effect that some officers from the KNHRC have been regularly receiving payments from the outlawed Mungiki sect followers,” Mr Kiraithe said. “Kenyans must ask themselves what services the Mungiki is paying for,” he added. He particularly took issue with the call for Ali’s resignation: “His call for the Commissioner of Police to resign is inconsequential and should be dismissed with the contempt it deserves.”
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Post by njamba on Feb 25, 2009 3:27:59 GMT 3
Serious allegations that must be dealt with. Ali should and Must be hauled out of office and Jailed for crimes against humanity
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 25, 2009 3:48:33 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Feb 25, 2009 16:56:28 GMT 3
That is the verdict of the UN Rapporteur. Kenya officials should go over killings - U.N.25 Feb 2009 13:38:04 GMT Source: Reuters (Adds quotes, details)NAIROBI, Feb 25 (Reuters) - The U.N. investigator into extrajudicial killings in Kenya called on Wednesday for the dismissal of police chief Hussein Ali and the resignation of attorney-general Amos Wako over killings by security forces. U.N. rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary and arbitrary executions Philip Alston made the recommendations at the end of a damning report into the killings of hundreds of suspected Mungiki gang members, rural rebels and political demonstrators. "I have received overwhelming testimony that there exists in Kenya a systematic, widespread and well-planned strategy to execute individuals, carried out by the police," he said of the alleged killing of some 500 suspected Mungiki members. "Kenyan police are a law unto themselves. They kill often, with impunity," he said. Alston said his 10-day visit had backed the reports of witnesses and rights groups of the Mungiki killings, the illegal shooting of scores during last year's post-election violence, and the killing of some 200 suspected rebels under interrogation and torture in the western Mount Elgon area. He lambasted police boss Ali for failing to give him any information in response to allegations against his force.And of the attorney-general, he said: "Mr Wako is the embodiment in Kenya of the phenomenon of impunity." (Reporting by Andrew Cawthorne)
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Post by job on Feb 25, 2009 19:32:13 GMT 3
Now that is what I call - judicious execution of duty. Prof. Alston came over to do his job, and meticulously he did. Without fear or favour.
I hope Justice Kriegler can read this report.
Now, Ali knows well he is taking heat for a lot more nefarious characters in the Internal Security Ministry. He needs to start seperating his own responsibilities and pushing back the buck up the heirachy..to Internal Security Minister and State House.
On Wako - it's about time he gets his right tag. The 'embodiment of the phenomenon of impunity in Kenya' serves quite well.
These miscreants need to resign.
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Post by job on Feb 25, 2009 19:32:31 GMT 3
Now that is what I call - judicious execution of duty. Prof. Alston came over to do his job, and meticulously he did. Without fear or favour.
I hope Justice Kriegler can read this report.
Now, Ali knows well he is taking heat for a lot more nefarious characters in the Internal Security Ministry. He needs to start seperating his own responsibilities and pushing back the buck up the heirachy..to Internal Security Minister and State House.
On Wako - it's about time he gets his right tag. The 'embodiment of the phenomenon of impunity in Kenya' serves quite well.
These miscreants need to resign.
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Post by kamalet on Feb 25, 2009 22:25:08 GMT 3
In more civilised societies, any event that leads to the police shooting someone, an inquiry is held to ensure that the killing was actually necessary as required by the law and that the police could not have killed the person illegally. It is therefore necessary that the police take up such a process to ensure that whoevery is killed is not done in extra-judicially. Having said this I am amazed that after a 10-day inquiry, our good professor from the UN has come to the conclusion that Ali and Wako should go - ostensibly to allow for investigations! This is certainly the mzungu way of thinking that is easily picked up by our activists - step aside to allow investigations!! The problem is that in other 'societies', these people would resign their positions more in shame than to facilitate investigation. In Kenya, the call by the professor (I insist on referring to his title so as to show he cannot be very clever) for the two senior officials to "step aside to facilitate investigation" is as damn as asking Kivuitu to resign for the electoral fiasco last year! Just what would transform the police force so drastically as to get to the bottom of these killings by Ali stepping aside? Unless you actually ask everyone above the rank of inspector and any police NCO who could have used a gun against another Kenyan, it is utterly stupid to think the police will sing like canaries the moment Ali is no longer the commish! But the report actually is not just about Ali. The report www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/534800/-/u2hu54/-/index.html as reported in the Nation suggests that there is even more this professor wants done by Kenyans! He is now playing the bidding of someone else!!!! Here is what I mean by the bidding: -Government of Kenya should establish a constitutionally entrenched Special Tribunal as recommended by the Waki Commission.
Prof Alston said formation of a local tribunal is indispensable if justice is to be done "and if appropriate lessons are to be learned before the next elections."
"An international tribunal cannot possibly achieve justice on a broad scale in this regard," he said.
In the meantime, Prof Alston recommended that ICC prosecutors should take over the cases.
"The Prosecutor of the ICC (Moreno Ocampo) should immediately undertake, of his own volition, an investigation into the commission of crimes against humanity by certain individuals in the aftermath of 2007 elections."My safe conclusion is that the man sat in some office, read the KNHCR report, the Kriegler and Waki Commission reports, was briefed by the bearded lot at the UN who would like Kofi Annan obeyed, and ten days later after an excursion to the Mara comes with this amazing report!!!
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 25, 2009 23:16:03 GMT 3
kegs de othaya illicit reign renders Kenya "uncivil". Nothing good has come from this chaps reign - be it incompetence galore, tribalism to unseen heights, grand corruption, inviting mercenaries who even messes with his wife and kid, selling off National assets at throw away prices, crashing the stock exchange, stealing elections and killing his OWN PEOPLE and dislacing them, I mean this guy is the personification of disaster. aninumak chap!
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 25, 2009 23:27:26 GMT 3
Kamale
I think you are lying even to yourself. Professor Alston did not tell Kenyans what they did not know already. If I remember well you are one of those who told us right here on Jukwaa that the story of police executions was a fiction minted by the KNCHR. May be you are a better spokesperson to the police than Kiraithe. But even lying needs intelligence. So far it is not working for Kiraithe. I doubt it will work any better for you.
I said when this story broke out last year that it will take the involvement of the families of the executed to give this deadly issue some feet. That is exactly what has happened.
Now you claim ridiculously enough that Prof. Alston only sat at the KNCHR office and came up with all these recommendations. I fear for you being in this bad situation. The last time I checked, Prof. Alston met families of victims and survivors of state terror in Eldoret, in Mt. Elgon region, in Nairobi and elsewhere. Those are the facts. They defy your lies.
Has the Kenyan police been exterminating citizens in misguided anti-Mungiki warfare and other unlawful activities? The answer is yes and the evidence is there to prove this criminality perpetrated by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the OP.
Then you talk about inquests etc as a better alternative. Let me give you one incident of the same. In 1987, a Kenyan activist was tortured to death at Nyayo House . His name is Peter Njenga Karanja.
An inquest was held and this is what Dr. Peter Anthony Carberry who examined his body said.
" The ulcers on his body were bad, open and quite visible to the naked eye. The skin was badly shattered. The whole thing looked like a crater, a deep tissue with pus emanating from it"
Chief Magistrate Joseph Mango concluded that " Karanja died like a caged animal as police stood guard over him throughout his dying moments".
The Chief Magistrate concluded that some offense was committed against Mr. Karanja and ordered the AG, none other than Amos Wako to investigate the matter and bring the culprits to court.
Twenty years later, today, Amos Wako may not even remember the case. He never bothered to do what the Inquest ordered him to do. Now you tell me; why would anybody want an inquest in police killings when the killers have the full protection of the powers that be.
This Alston guy really nailed it on the head. Some day these criminals who serve the state will pay dearly, just pray that that day doesn't come too soon. On that note I fully understand your protests. Good luck. Just remember even Karanja's case is still live since the AG did not do what the Inquest ordered.
Talk about the ICC, that is where the defenders of the murderers like Amos Wako belong.
adongo
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Post by enigma on Feb 25, 2009 23:38:33 GMT 3
In more civilised societies, any event that leads to the police shooting someone, an inquiry is held to ensure that the killing was actually necessary as required by the law and that the police could not have killed the person illegally. It is therefore necessary that the police take up such a process to ensure that whoevery is killed is not done in extra-judicially. Having said this I am amazed that after a 10-day inquiry, our good professor from the UN has come to the conclusion that Ali and Wako should go - ostensibly to allow for investigations! This is certainly the mzungu way of thinking that is easily picked up by our activists - step aside to allow investigations!! The problem is that in other 'societies', these people would resign their positions more in shame than to facilitate investigation. In Kenya, the call by the professor (I insist on referring to his title so as to show he cannot be very clever) for the two senior officials to "step aside to facilitate investigation" is as damn as asking Kivuitu to resign for the electoral fiasco last year! Just what would transform the police force so drastically as to get to the bottom of these killings by Ali stepping aside? Unless you actually ask everyone above the rank of inspector and any police NCO who could have used a gun against another Kenyan, it is utterly stupid to think the police will sing like canaries the moment Ali is no longer the commish! But the report actually is not just about Ali. The report www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/534800/-/u2hu54/-/index.html as reported in the Nation suggests that there is even more this professor wants done by Kenyans! He is now playing the bidding of someone else!!!! Here is what I mean by the bidding: -Government of Kenya should establish a constitutionally entrenched Special Tribunal as recommended by the Waki Commission.
Prof Alston said formation of a local tribunal is indispensable if justice is to be done "and if appropriate lessons are to be learned before the next elections."
"An international tribunal cannot possibly achieve justice on a broad scale in this regard," he said.
In the meantime, Prof Alston recommended that ICC prosecutors should take over the cases.
"The Prosecutor of the ICC (Moreno Ocampo) should immediately undertake, of his own volition, an investigation into the commission of crimes against humanity by certain individuals in the aftermath of 2007 elections."My safe conclusion is that the man sat in some office, read the KNHCR report, the Kriegler and Waki Commission reports, was briefed by the bearded lot at the UN who would like Kofi Annan obeyed, and ten days later after an excursion to the Mara comes with this amazing report!!! Your last paragraph needs to be revised. I know the perceptions out there about the UN and its not always right. This guy probably burnt the midnight oil trying to achieve this in 10 days in order to save the international civil service and by extension UN member states some dough. And you dare say that he was whiling away at the Mara?
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 25, 2009 23:45:55 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 25, 2009 23:58:02 GMT 3
Can we get rid of the sandwich above. Me thinks it is not necessary. But what do I know? I wonder.
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Post by job on Feb 26, 2009 0:22:57 GMT 3
Well said Adongo. Police inquests, like any other Kenyan inquest, are just but an extra drain on taxpayer funds. They solve nothing except absolve culprits. Accountability should be tackled from the top - bosses must take responsibility. Prof. Alston has put some good documentation of these activities in the global arena - right at the UN. Accountability will some day have to follow. If I may confess,... at some point, I was frankly one of those duped into thinking the so called 'crackdown on Mungiki' operation mooted by then Internal Security Minister, Kimendeero John Michuki, by 'kwekwe' squad, was actually justified for the sake of security. I remember you Adongo and Onyango Oloo vigorously debating against the obvious - from a human rights point of view. Of course there was also a subterranean political dimension. My awakening came when the brutal consequences started showing up on the surface more clearly. it was not a case of police and robber or police and Mungiki shooting each other and fatalities result. No. It was a clearly calculated and systematic extrajudicial massacre of targeted individuals. Hundreds of corpses started showing up at Ngong forest, Thika road, and thousands of missing-person reports by relatives of known Mungiki members were filed . I remember discussing with some friends from Central about this issue. They were all convinced it was a political operation of crushing political dissent in Central by those not willing to toe the line and be quiet - land issues, revival of Mau Mau sentimentalism, betrayal by political class, etc. It was not until Maina Kiai himself put this on pen and paper, challenging the government, that I became fully convinced. I also now understand clearly the motivation for the hostility held against Maina Kiai by the police, NSIS, and Kibaki administration luminaries. I also understandwhy it was so easy for Kiai to quickly diagnose the handiwork and full role of police in the PEV murders of civilians - which he shared with us here in Washington DC.That Mungiki crackdown (kwekwe) operation was all political, nothing about security. It was aimed at quelling the obvious grumbles and complaints by unemployed youth in Central...who were obviously beginning to complain and start venturing into political activism - and consequently embarrasing the Gikuyu President.There was obviously some sprouting of Agikuyu youth dissent, unease, and restlessness which was threatening possible upstaging of the political status quo.
Youth Alliances and Groups of predominantly poor Gikuyu youth were starting to sprout...very removed from Central province's relatively comfortable middle class. The latter are fervent supporters of Kibaki, the former are not as excited about Kibaki's regime.The police may have been misused to 'quell' this political problem in central and parts of Nairobi...of course it did not solve the problem,..it still exists today...but is being brushed under the carpet.That leads to one other big question. Does anyone now doubt the real source of insecurity in many rural settings in central province that preceded the security crackdowns? The initial wave of insecurity that led to near virtual collapse of rural townships and commerce centers in Central, depicted by scenes like these below;Dying ghost township of Geitwa, traders have abandoned commerce in many parts of rural Central ProvinceIt's the police, period! The police could have STAGED insecurity in these places IN THE FIRST PLACE, to justify use of EXCESSIVE FORCE to crash political dissent and possible rebellion by the unemployed, landless Gikuyu youth who were not excited at all by the Kibaki administration.All I'm saying is that - those ritualistic slayings the MEDIA highlighted and ATTRIBUTED TO MUNGIKI could have in fact been the handiwork of surreptitious police squads...which then created instant public wrath against Mungiki....and a justification for their brutal extermination by all means necessary. That of course means the media may have been part of the collusion and conspiracy. It will not be strange. Media and police have always tag-teamed before, and some in media are actually NSIS employees. The Mungiki killings probably had less to do with insecurity but more to do with ruthless and inhuman crushing of political rebellion. Prof. Alston has put some good documentation of these activities in the global arena. Accountability will some day have to follow.
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Post by kamalet on Feb 26, 2009 0:48:39 GMT 3
Job,
Do two wrongs make a right? The reason I ask this, is that we are quick to forget the atrocities committed by Mungiki for anyone that crossed their path and seem to only remember the police tactic of managing Mungiki, which it would seem was intended to finish off cell leaders and make Mungiki rudderless. We surely should remember the revulsion of seeing innocent people killed and their heads severed in villages in Kiambu and Murang'a. The brutality of the police was meant to apease these people!
But then apart from the police, Mungiki with its huge circle of members and cells was a potent political machine and it is doubtless that there are those in our political leadership who seized the opportunity to use these young Kenyansfor their own ends. During the violence of January 2007, these youths in Mungiki were used "to good effect" (to quote someone I know). As you can see, the possibilities on Mungiki are limitless - but then Ali the commissioner has little sympathy for these miscreants and with all the challenges he faced, it appeared inevitable that his modus operandi would be extra judicial!
We can sit and fault this method of Mungiki management (and however unjustified as it would appear), but again, you need to look at the options available to the police and how far deeply the organisation had infiltrated the security aparatus all the way through the judiciary and the prison service.
If we question the method used against Mungiki, should we not also condemn the treatment of SLDF in Mt. Elgon?
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Post by job on Feb 26, 2009 1:41:09 GMT 3
Kamale,
I thought people are sleeping now in Nairobi...where are you? Here we haven't even checked off work. You must really be on high alert......what Bush termed security alert is on Red'.
What i am saying is that those memories you are reviving about innocent people killed and their heads severed in villages in Kiambu and Murang'a....was probably the handiwork of the same police......trying to make Mungiki look very ruthless.....and justifying 'equally ruthless' revenge by police....
In the end, you'll realize that the brutality of police - which was meant to apease Muranga and Kiambu people - will come back to eat no one but the police themselves.
Even Kivuitu and the entire ECK kit-and-caboodle who helped rig Kibaki must be regretting today.....and asking whether it was worth it.
What message do you get when police themselves start coming out to confess their atrocious brutality....one day another cop will confess that the initial ritualistic killings were also the work of police...then what will you do?
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Post by njamba on Feb 26, 2009 7:40:09 GMT 3
Kamale, is killing parents of a victim of EJK in Limuru part of managing mungiki? What is the update on this case? By the way which Central MP is not associated with Mungiki? Which Kikuyu rich man does not have ties with Mungiki? Was it not Akina Chris Kirubi and Uhuru kenyatta who hired young men to go kill and burn women and children in naivasha. By the way the "young criminals" who killed in naivasha were not Mungiki members.
Has Ali solved the "mungiki" problem?
You debate in circles always trying to find a reason why you can justify any illegality. The question everyone is asking is does the Internal security minister and Police commissioner have the Right to Kill suspects?
Are extra Judicial killing justified?
Btw, what is the update on the limuru missing family?
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Post by njamba on Feb 26, 2009 8:39:17 GMT 3
Does constitution allow Kibaki to Call for EJK It seems the presidential prouncements were implemented by Ali Remember Kibaki is CIC and Ali is still an army guy thus legally ALi was just carrying out the orders of his commander in chief as required by Military
Kibaki should resign
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2009 11:28:23 GMT 3
The munguki issue has been debated for a long time in Kenya. As you all remember, the last MKM government never wanted to openly compromise with members of the sect. Yet by night they sneaked to speak and “cut deals” with the same group. It now appears that the killings were carried out not only because the young men and women had rebelled against the Agikuyu elite but also because of what they knew about the very elite. I think that the central Kenya politicians were and are still very scared of what mungiki know about them. That’s why there was a lot of commotion and panic when Raila announced that he was ready to have a discussion with the Mungiki leaders if that is what it took to stop the violence. Of course he was accused of all manner of thing including trying to be a populist. I think that’s the reason why he dropped the issue.
What is it that Mungiki know about MKM politicians? Whatever they know must be very damaging hence the reason for their (mungiki) extermination. I had previously advocated a “no surrender no retreat” attitude as far as the fight against Mungiki was concerned, but I now look at it from another angle all together. Since there are different sub-sects within Mungiki, I do believe that while some are genuinely fighting against poverty, unemployment, immorality etc, there are other sub-sects involved in all manner of criminality such as extortion, crimes against women, ritual killings, hire for murder by politicians etc. So its very important to know which mungiki one is dealing with.
I think that it has become very difficult for the police to actually separate between the different sub-sects. Why? Because Kenyan police never carry out any proper investigation and mostly follow hearsay, but more importantly take orders from “above”. This is the spot the police commissioner Major Ali finds himself and I bet he is soon going to regret. He was asked to go exterminate mungiki and he did so blindly. Just the same way he was ordered to go kill people in Kisumu during the PEV and he did just that without thinking. I bet that Ali might find himself behind bars very soon.
The only way to eliminate the mungiki menace once and for all is to have a direct and public dialogue with them. Let them pour out what’s in their hearts. If that means revealing where their orders came from, so be it. If it means people like Uhuru Kenyatta have to be held responsible for financially sponsoring the mungiki menace, so be it. If it means holding the police responsible, let it be so.
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Post by phil on Feb 26, 2009 13:40:14 GMT 3
This Mutua guy is really a liability to this country. I just hope he is not talking on behalf of the coalition but rather on behalf of the PNU wing. How do you dismiss a report that you have not yourself read? Again Alstom need not to have been in the country to enable him conduct a comprehensive investigation. These killings have been common knowledge. Reports published by HRW, KHRC and others all point fingers at a police killer squad. Mutua calls this a preliminary response, so expect more garbage from him in the next few days. I just hope the PM's spokesperson counters this Mutua statement with something more responsive. Last Updated: 25/2/2009 GOVERNMENT REJECTS FINDINGS OF UN SPECIAL RAPPORTEUR In this preliminary response, the Government rejects the findings and recommendations made in a press statement made by the UN Special Rapporteur Prof. Philip Alston. The Government is concerned that the UN Special Rapporteur Prof. Philip Alston has made such far reaching conclusions and recommendations on the basis of his Interim report. The Government is further concerned that such a report has been released without having sought a Government response in accordance to the principles of natural justice, and international practice. The preliminary report issued today went beyond Prof. Alston’s mandate, and does not encourage dialogue and appears to have been made in bad faith almost impinging on matters of sovereignty especially as it relates to executive prerogative to appoint. The Government finds it inconceivable that someone who has been in the country for less than ten days can purport to have conducted comprehensive and accurate research on such a serious matter, as to arrive at the recommendations he made.The Government will issue an effective and compressive response once it receives the full report, which should be submitted as soon as possible by Prof. Alston. DR. ALFRED N. MUTUA, EBS PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS SECRETARY & GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN
25 February 2009
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2009 13:57:15 GMT 3
Can we get rid of the sandwich above. Me thinks it is not necessary. But what do I know? I wonder. My apologies for the ''sandwich''. It has been removed.
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2009 14:08:18 GMT 3
This Mutua guy is really a liability to this country. I just hope he is not talking on behalf of the coalition but rather on behalf of the PNU wing. How do you dismiss a report that you have not yourself read? Again Alstom need not to have been in the country to enable him conduct a comprehensive investigation. These killings have been common knowledge. Reports published by HRW, KHRC and others all point fingers at a police killer squad. Mutua calls this a preliminary response, so expect more garbage from him in the next few days. I just hope the PM's spokesperson counters this Mutua statement with something more responsive. Last Updated: 25/2/2009 GOVERNMENT REJECTS FINDINGS OF UN SPECIAL RAPPORTEUR In this preliminary response, the Government rejects the findings and recommendations made in a press statement made by the UN Special Rapporteur Prof. Philip Alston. The Government is concerned that the UN Special Rapporteur Prof. Philip Alston has made such far reaching conclusions and recommendations on the basis of his Interim report. The Government is further concerned that such a report has been released without having sought a Government response in accordance to the principles of natural justice, and international practice. The preliminary report issued today went beyond Prof. Alston’s mandate, and does not encourage dialogue and appears to have been made in bad faith almost impinging on matters of sovereignty especially as it relates to executive prerogative to appoint. The Government finds it inconceivable that someone who has been in the country for less than ten days can purport to have conducted comprehensive and accurate research on such a serious matter, as to arrive at the recommendations he made.The Government will issue an effective and compressive response once it receives the full report, which should be submitted as soon as possible by Prof. Alston. DR. ALFRED N. MUTUA, EBS PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS SECRETARY & GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN
25 February 2009 Dr Mutua, This is not a public relations exercise, therefore a government response is not warranted. The report will be delivered to you and then you can choose to place it at the bottom of the pile so that it can gather dust or actually respond by taking the necessary action. Its not a secret that the ever smiling Wako is a worm. Think about all the interventions he has made in court cases involving the perpetrators of impunity always in favour of the bad guys. Wako should have been retired in 2002.
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 26, 2009 18:27:35 GMT 3
This thing will not go away. The KNCHR has been meticulous in compiling the evidence of criminality of the Kenya Police sanctioned right from State House. These killers use Mungiki when they need to kill innocent Kenyans and when they don't need them they wipe them out like rats and even kill cops who get entangled in the machinery of murder and mayhem. In many civilized countries, to quote one of our participants, Wako, Saitoti and Ali should have resigned yesterday not to mention their big boss at State House. In a banana republic like ours we are going to spend time arguing whose partisan interest killing Kenyans serves. www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/534982/-/u2hv4p/-/index.html
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 26, 2009 18:42:20 GMT 3
Wierd to the point of being funny. Yaani the MKM use Mungiki to finish off who they dont like, or for political gain, then turn around and exterminate the Mungiki Agikuyu youth like rats and vermins when they - Mungiki run amok and start killing fellows in their hoods?
When will folk there learn that the MKM does not exist for the general good but for sole purpose of possessing and retaining power at all cost, as an instrument to acquire and consolidate wealth? I pity my fellow citizens for falling under the spell of lies and suffering the consequences of mass murder - 12,000 youth dead and bodies not recovered mpaka wa leo, displacement of tens of thousands in the abscence of war, hunger and poverty. Poor them.
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 27, 2009 1:20:18 GMT 3
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