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Post by nereah on Jun 9, 2012 19:49:16 GMT 3
away from the media glare henry kosgey, the chairman of odm, has been on a major foray in the rift valley and from those who claim to know, the overtone window is shifting dramatically.
it is nt lost t my eye that franklin the bett has gone mute over his noisy self endorsement for raila's running mate. it appears that ruto's nuisance as i called it right from the word go has run its course in the kalenjin cluster.
jukwaa pundits were earlier divided on henry kosgey being elevated to the odm premier position with some rightly that agwambo's running mate should be a fresh face as a complimentary bait for either youth or women constituency.
that obama in his 40s picked joe bidden in his 60s as his running mate, so kenya's presumed next president should also tap on a 40 something and at best a woman.
nereah is with those who argue for kosgey's ascendancy in the odm's top echelon in the coalition government. for reasons that i will provide, i am comfortable with henry as the next deputy president and i demand that odm functionaries heed the wishes of the masses by urgently convening the relevant party organs to replace kosgey with ruto and sister margaret wanjiru with musalia mudavadi.
the chairmanship post of odm can go to a youthful face by the name ababu twafiq namwamba or hassan omar better still we can go the anc way and mandate one of our sisters.
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Post by job on Jun 9, 2012 19:53:17 GMT 3
Mugambi Kiai captures the scenario brewing in Mt. Kenya in very interesting ways. www.the-star.co.ke/opinions/mugambi-kiai/79544-is-tna-recreating-imperial-presidency(long excerpt) Mheshimiwa Nguyai’s reported statement nevertheless caught the eye for at least two reasons. First, Mheshimiwa Nguyai is a known acolyte of Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta. So close is this relationship that Mheshimiwa Nguyai was one of the defense witnesses for the DPM at the confirmation of charges hearing at the International Criminal Court. Hence, were we listening to the master’s voice?
Second, this public statement was reportedly made in Ol Kalou which, while widely expected to be supportive of the presidential ambitions of the DPM, is also known to harbour a sizeable group of those who belong to other political parties and who would be supportive of these parties in electoral contests below those of the President. Was this meant to be another warning shot on the political intentions of TNA with regard to dissent to it in Central Kenya?
Now, the DPM is also recorded to have publicly argued against members of the Kikuyu community joining political parties different from those the dominant Kikuyu leadership is fronting. According to him, this is what has caused President Kibaki grief in Parliament because he can rarely muster the requisite numbers to pass through his legislative agenda. Indeed, the DPM is quoted in Muranga last year to have directed that all within the community “toe the line” of Kibaki’s leadership.
These statements provide at least two reasons for democratic unease. First, the TNA is a completely untried and untested political party. It has barely launched itself and has no standing to speak of except that its centerpiece, obviously, is the personality of the DPM who is widely expected to stand for the presidency on its ticket.
Should the DPM summersault tomorrow and head for another political outfit, there will be no TNA to speak of. Unlike Kanu where he recently departed from, there is no track record, political constituency and known structures that the TNA commands. However, barely out of its political womb and garbed only in political diapers, TNA is demanding obedience from all in Central Kenya.
This reeks of the cultivation of a political cult around the DPM. It is universally agreed that political cults around strong political figures are inimical to democracy and ultimately undermine it rather than promote it. Kenya’s history shows that the attempts to establish a political cult around the personality of its different leaders have been very costly to our democracy. During the late Jomo Kenyatta’s presidency, the push to create this cult is the reason why by 1969, historian Professor Ali Mazrui characterised it as an “imperial presidency”.
It is also the reason why in 1978, when Jomo passed on, a provincial administrator was reported to have said, “The eyes of Kenya have closed.”
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Post by nereah on Sept 11, 2012 20:43:47 GMT 3
the silly season is here with us and i can tell that it is distinctively out of surprises.
however the one that caught my attention and enlivened observers like yours truly is the surprise take on agwambo by his loyalists from south rift that saw the likes mwalimumkuu exchanging knowing winks here in jukwaa.
we heard from the news people that a group of rift valley odm mps hitherto loyal to agwambo among them minister franklin the bett had resigned from the mau committee and issued some ultimatum.
of course you know the story. mine is to draw your attention to the siasa moto moto bit of it. it was not lost to me that this had nothing to do with mau, the hapless evictees or even jim orengo the minister of lands.this utata was a smart political game not for aggrandizement or advancement of the ruto influence as some would imagine but the raila running mate issue.
the willy bett has made me believe that he is a good study of raila and wanted to pull a first one on his presumed rival,henry kosgey who was headlining agwambo's grassroot engagements over the last week.
bett needed to leverage and there was no better way than whip up the kipsigis who are the majority in kalenjin cluster but dominated, into what is now clearly a checkmate with henry the kosgey.
raising the mau issue which kosgey was and has been cautious about caught the tinderet mp by surprise as it did to agwambo moreso when it came from the unusual suspects.not that the target was not kibaki or the pnu wing of the coalition that manages the mau cash but a odm and agwambo. the jibe was not at agwambo in as much as the media reported he was on the disgruntled odm mp's cross hair:kosgey was the target.
about 8 hrs ago,bett resurfaced with a group of mps at agwambo's office. he had led a team of community leaders and the politicians to harambee avenue address to make a n emphatic political statement(see the link by jukwaa member phil elsewhere in this forum).orengo was in attendance and kosgey was notably absent.
kweli siasa za odm rift valley moto moto
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Post by nereah on Sept 15, 2012 17:47:12 GMT 3
someone used to warn jukwaaists who had no time for raila that crafting alliances was not a monopoly of agwambo's competitors. and true to his refrain a media house now tells us: Divide and conquer?Entry of Charity Ngilu and Cyrus Jirongo into the State House race sparks talk of ODM machinations in response to earlier national plan by G7 rivals to tame the Prime Ministerwww.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000066160&story_title=Raila-rivals-rocked
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Sept 19, 2012 16:01:52 GMT 3
someone used to warn jukwaaists who had no time for raila that crafting alliances was not a monopoly of agwambo's competitors. and true to his refrain a media house now tells us: Divide and conquer?Entry of Charity Ngilu and Cyrus Jirongo into the State House race sparks talk of ODM machinations in response to earlier national plan by G7 rivals to tame the Prime Ministerwww.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000066160&story_title=Raila-rivals-rockedNereah, Crafting an alliance in itself is not such a big deal, even the total man and that retired army general of defunct UDM just formed one. But will it sell? That is the million dollar question.
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Post by phil on Sept 19, 2012 16:14:08 GMT 3
someone used to warn jukwaaists who had no time for raila that crafting alliances was not a monopoly of agwambo's competitors. and true to his refrain a media house now tells us: Divide and conquer?Entry of Charity Ngilu and Cyrus Jirongo into the State House race sparks talk of ODM machinations in response to earlier national plan by G7 rivals to tame the Prime Ministerwww.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000066160&story_title=Raila-rivals-rockedNereah, Crafting an alliance in itself is not such a big deal, even the total man and that retired army general of defunct UDM just formed one. But will it sell? That is the million dollar question. We all remember how Uhuruto aligned MPs made a very big deal of this. They even changed the law to make it work for them. They did not know that they were also opening the same route for others. NVP and UDM officials were not in parliament to amend the political parties act. Now that KKK-G7-G8-M'bus-etc is dead, Miguna's book has not changed the tide and Raila still maintains his position as favourite to win in 2013, how do you again mobilise MPs through cheap handouts to change the law? That's for your camp to answer.
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Post by nereah on Nov 29, 2012 19:23:04 GMT 3
politics as we knows it begins in kenya this fall and trust me good people, there is no better place to be than here in jukwaa for the ring side seat.
thanks to william ruto and uhuru kenyatta who are hell bent on turning the kenyan election into a referendum on hague, the choices are now much clearer than ever before: forces of status quo and forces for the progressive reform that is the implementation of the katiba and the kenyan we want.
as usual jukwaa will be on the look out for the wagonganji, matapeli na maharamia wa siasa.
we may want to ask ourselves why the triple k could not hold and why the g7 went asunder, something that we may deduce from seeking out what they had in common in the first place.
and here are the optics:
the union and unification of ohuru and bill ruto is premised on the politics of the numbers. as ruto says in the media report published elsewhere in this respected forum by our member, he fell for uhuru because the kikuyus have numbers.
the false premise is that all kikuyus(the young, the old, the affluent and the peasants) are bound by ethnic and therefore outdated tribal thinking of voting not on ideological and sound democratic tenets but rather the old order. same can be said of all tribes from the lenses of those who belief in the politics of numbers.
we in odm reject this calculus because it is inimical to the greater good and more importantly outdated in the new kenya where majority of the youths as we know them, are driven by new thinking.
i met a tna honcho at a chance encounter in serena earlier today and his pitch for uhuru, in what was a banter directed to I disagreeociate is: kwa vile raila wenu alisema kwamba mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka, basi mtoto wa rais ni lazima ha we rais.
so if a snake sires a snake, then it natural that uhuru, coming from the loins of a president,must also be the president.
but kamwana (as i will be arguing in the seminal thread jukwaa watch on uhuru) is an anomaly, something that is best driven home by the curious fate and blunders in his path(from presiding over the death of three political parties including one founded by his father to the hague monster.
the siasa moto moto bit of this is that uhuru and ruto have, in their attempted union and planned unification of the kikuyus and kalenjins this sunday, rolled the dice in kenyan politics.
in nakuru this sunday, kenyans will formally be told that kalenjins and kikuyus have united with rest of kenyans to block raila odinga from taking overpower and also odm from taking over any elective seat in rift valley which has been sliced and diced for the urp and tna.
i had argued elsewhere that the reason why ruto was joining at the hip with uhuru, as he admits it, is the doctrine of numbers. he knows that the kikuyu diaspora makes the biggest minority voters in his constituency and will by all intent and purposes run away with the constituency that has been hived off the eldoret north and making part of the eldoret town. the by-election in the market ward where tna beats urp hands down validate this assertion.
move by ruto to take the kalenjins for a ride by back tracking on their mandate to him to deliver the presidency and settling for the deputy presidency has been a blessing to the kalenjin constituency in kenya's most political party, odm.
henry kosgey,franklin bett and even sister sally will now have bargaining chip for the vacant slot that is odm running mate. the siasa moto moto bit is the jostling for the odm running mate slot and the galvanised push by the kalenjin to entrench their affiliation with a party they founded, odm.
alliances are going to shift and shift. its all happening in nairobi by end of next week as majority of kenyans through their chosen representatives goes to kasarani to elect the flag bearer and running mate for the party will form the next government.
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 30, 2012 23:55:31 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Dec 6, 2012 12:57:47 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Dec 8, 2012 9:39:13 GMT 3
more than ever before, kenya's quest to defer and refer the hague icc trial looks practically tenable as agwambo offers uhuru and ruto a lifeline by echoing what kalonzo said at the launch of cord only that this time he spoke with finality.
the siasa moto moto bit is that the offer for engagement is one that uhuru and ruto cant resist and one that kibaki (read muthaura who is still substantive head of civil service) is taking very seriously(i am told).
as agwambo said, odm position has been for local tribunal but the emphasis remain on the fixing of the dysfunctions at the judiciary and police which is well ahead.
what does this offer from tag-team cord(agwambo,kalonzo and weta) who have not only the capability but the requisite grasp and connections to deliver on this promise means to political configuration in the countdown to march 2013?
put it another way; if undeed g7 and uhuru-ruto grouping was inspired and cemented by icc,and if indeed the hague shackles are the greatest threat/torment to kibaki(muthaura),influential kenyatta family(mama ngina) and ruto,can/ will the anti-raila forces make the necessary concession?
could this be the silver bullet that cord requires to restore democracy and implement reform? will the core bases of uhuru and ruto buy in?
kweli siasa ni moto moto
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Post by nok on Dec 8, 2012 10:09:32 GMT 3
more than ever before, kenya's quest to defer and refer the hague icc trial looks practically tenable as agwambo offers uhuru and ruto a lifeline by echoing what kalonzo said at the launch of cord only that this time he spoke with finality. the siasa moto moto bit is that the offer for engagement is one that uhuru and ruto cant resist and one that kibaki (read muthaura who is still substantive head of civil service) is taking very seriously(i am told). as agwambo said, odm position has been for local tribunal but the emphasis remain on the fixing of the dysfunctions at the judiciary and police which is well ahead. what does this offer from tag-team cord(agwambo,kalonzo and weta) who have not only the capability but the requisite grasp and connections to deliver on this promise means to political configuration in the countdown to march 2013? put it another way; if undeed g7 and uhuru-ruto grouping was inspired and cemented by icc,and if indeed the hague shackles are the greatest threat/torment to kibaki(muthaura),influential kenyatta family(mama ngina) and ruto,can/ will the anti-raila forces make the necessary concession? could this be the silver bullet that cord requires to restore democracy and implement reform? will the core bases of uhuru and ruto buy in? kweli siasa ni moto moto This I find is wrong because it should be Kenya first then personalities second. Elections should be about debating issues that can make us achieve our visions and be globally competitive. It should not be about ICC.. And I think this should not belong to CORDs 15 point Manifesto. If Agwambo and Musa feel that way then this should be offers done behind the scenes but not frontal because it sends the wrong message to the suffrage and to our development partners. There should be a clear distinction between liberating Kenya from Impunity and status Quo. Lets not forget perception in Politics matters. So where does CORD belong to ? unedited
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 8, 2012 19:27:21 GMT 3
more than ever before, kenya's quest to defer and refer the hague icc trial looks practically tenable as agwambo offers uhuru and ruto a lifeline by echoing what kalonzo said at the launch of cord only that this time he spoke with finality. the siasa moto moto bit is that the offer for engagement is one that uhuru and ruto cant resist and one that kibaki (read muthaura who is still substantive head of civil service) is taking very seriously(i am told). as agwambo said, odm position has been for local tribunal but the emphasis remain on the fixing of the dysfunctions at the judiciary and police which is well ahead. what does this offer from tag-team cord(agwambo,kalonzo and weta) who have not only the capability but the requisite grasp and connections to deliver on this promise means to political configuration in the countdown to march 2013? put it another way; if undeed g7 and uhuru-ruto grouping was inspired and cemented by icc,and if indeed the hague shackles are the greatest threat/torment to kibaki(muthaura),influential kenyatta family(mama ngina) and ruto,can/ will the anti-raila forces make the necessary concession? could this be the silver bullet that cord requires to restore democracy and implement reform? will the core bases of uhuru and ruto buy in? kweli siasa ni moto moto This I find is wrong because it should be Kenya first then personalities second. Elections should be about debating issues that can make us achieve our visions and be globally competitive. It should not be about ICC.. And I think this should not belong to CORDs 15 point Manifesto. If Agwambo and Musa feel that way then this should be offers done behind the scenes but not frontal because it sends the wrong message to the suffrage and to our development partners. There should be a clear distinction between liberating Kenya from Impunity and status Quo. Lets not forget perception in Politics matters. So where does CORD belong to ? unedited Facts Remain Raila fought hard to have the ICC case to brought back to Kenya I parliament.. the question was if our judicial system could handle it.. I believe if the chance had been given to wipe out the impunity in the Judicial system then and gain trust of the Kenya citizens that Justice could be served.. there was possibility then but the UHURUTO TEAM kept screaming ''DON'T BE VAGUE GO TO HAGUE.. and galvanized enough MP's in Parliament to vote against itIt must be repeated by Cord leadership VERY CLEARLY that they fought to have the ICC case brought home, but the duo Uhuruto fought them against it.. LET ALL KENYANS BE REMINDED THROUGH OUT THE ELECTIONS CAMPAIGN that ICC saga was not the making of Raila but of the DUO UHURUTO.. facts must be place out there.. since the UHURUTO team have tried on several occasions to blame Raila..
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 8, 2012 19:36:16 GMT 3
Raila is playing games with the heads of Kenyans. And Kalonzo is full of the proverbial something or other. Every time I think of taking him seriously, I recall what Jukwaaists have, rightfully, noted about him prior to his recent elevation. We know that a goat cannot give birth to a leopard; but can a goat become a leopard? As a punter, I would not risk my hard-earned on that one. more than ever before, kenya's quest to defer and refer the hague icc trial looks practically tenable as agwambo offers uhuru and ruto a lifeline by echoing what kalonzo said at the launch of cord only that this time he spoke with finality. the siasa moto moto bit is that the offer for engagement is one that uhuru and ruto cant resist and one that kibaki (read muthaura who is still substantive head of civil service) is taking very seriously(i am told). as agwambo said, odm position has been for local tribunal but the emphasis remain on the fixing of the dysfunctions at the judiciary and police which is well ahead. what does this offer from tag-team cord(agwambo,kalonzo and weta) who have not only the capability but the requisite grasp and connections to deliver on this promise means to political configuration in the countdown to march 2013? put it another way; if undeed g7 and uhuru-ruto grouping was inspired and cemented by icc,and if indeed the hague shackles are the greatest threat/torment to kibaki(muthaura),influential kenyatta family(mama ngina) and ruto,can/ will the anti-raila forces make the necessary concession? could this be the silver bullet that cord requires to restore democracy and implement reform? will the core bases of uhuru and ruto buy in? kweli siasa ni moto moto
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Post by nereah on Feb 24, 2013 16:27:01 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Feb 26, 2013 20:06:47 GMT 3
mutahi the ngunyi and his fans believe that the 2013 elections was won on the day the iebc closed its voters register but nereah of amadi cheekily affirm that the 2013 elections winner is known this week!
so lets keep our eyes on the community that i adoringly refers to as the essential house of mumbi as landless,displaced, alienated and dispossessed digests the import of ohuru's willing seller,willing buyer retort.
kweli siasa ni moto moto
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Post by phil on Feb 27, 2013 9:26:57 GMT 3
Now breaking, TNA Nairobi candidates Mike Sonko (Senator) and Rachael Shebesh (Women Rep) have now disowned gubernatorial candidate Clifford Ferdinand Waititu and have instead endorsed APK's Jimnah Mbaru.
When the rubber hits the road this is exactly what happens. Dr. Kidero is way ahead of these folks and the switching of support from Waititu to Mbaru is meant to play catch-up, and disinherit Waititu.
So what if Waititu decides to endorse Kidero? That is not too far fetched my friends, Nairobi is too important to be left to councillor type politics. Watch this space!
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Post by b6k on Feb 27, 2013 10:24:58 GMT 3
Now breaking, TNA Nairobi candidates Mike Sonko (Senator) and Rachael Shebesh (Women Rep) have now disowned gubernatorial candidate Clifford Ferdinand Waititu and have instead endorsed APK's Jimnah Mbaru. When the rubber hits the road this is exactly what happens. Dr. Kidero is way ahead of these folks and the switching of support from Waititu to Mbaru is meant to play catch-up, and disinherit Waititu. So what if Waititu decides to endorse Kidero? That is not too far fetched my friends, Nairobi is too important to be left to councillor type politics. Watch this space! This simply confirms an unsolicited SMS I got yesterday afternoon from a +46 (Sweden) number. It read as follows: "BREAKING NEWS 411: Uhuru rejects 6 piece suit votes; the change of political strategy favors Jimnah Mbaru as Nairobi Governor as Waititu loses 'Uhuru Wave'"
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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2013 10:59:28 GMT 3
Now breaking, TNA Nairobi candidates Mike Sonko (Senator) and Rachael Shebesh (Women Rep) have now disowned gubernatorial candidate Clifford Ferdinand Waititu and have instead endorsed APK's Jimnah Mbaru. When the rubber hits the road this is exactly what happens. Dr. Kidero is way ahead of these folks and the switching of support from Waititu to Mbaru is meant to play catch-up, and disinherit Waititu. So what if Waititu decides to endorse Kidero? That is not too far fetched my friends, Nairobi is too important to be left to councillor type politics. Watch this space! This simply confirms an unsolicited SMS I got yesterday afternoon from a +46 (Sweden) number. It read as follows: "BREAKING NEWS 411: Uhuru rejects 6 piece suit votes; the change of political strategy favors Jimnah Mbaru as Nairobi Governor as Waititu loses 'Uhuru Wave'" ODM PROPAGANDA!
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Post by roughrider on Feb 27, 2013 11:16:18 GMT 3
This simply confirms an unsolicited SMS I got yesterday afternoon from a +46 (Sweden) number. It read as follows: "BREAKING NEWS 411: Uhuru rejects 6 piece suit votes; the change of political strategy favors Jimnah Mbaru as Nairobi Governor as Waititu loses 'Uhuru Wave'" ODM PROPAGANDA! Uhuru supported APK candidates in Meru at the expense of his TNA. That is a rejection of six piece. But to borrow a trolls wording, he is walking a familiar path of reneging on everything. Just what he did when as official opposition leader, he defected to the government leaving Kanu in limbo and undermining the basis of pluralism.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 27, 2013 11:29:20 GMT 3
Uhuru supported APK candidates in Meru at the expense of his TNA. That is a rejection of six piece. But to borrow a trolls wording, he is walking a familiar path of reneging on everything. Just what he did when as official opposition leader, he defected to the government leaving Kanu in limbo and undermining the basis of pluralism. ODM Propaganda Uhuru never supported APK candidates -He only said he is supporting Kiraitu Murungi senatorial bid against ODMs Gitobu Imanyara because they never fielded a TNA candidate. FYI moments earlier in Igembe and Laare he had asked the electorate to give him a strong TNA parliamentary group . Be rest assured TNA will have the most members of parliament followed by URP come Mar 05 ODM might come a distant 3rd , You can take that to the bank.
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Post by roughrider on Feb 27, 2013 11:54:27 GMT 3
Uhuru supported APK candidates in Meru at the expense of his TNA. That is a rejection of six piece. But to borrow a trolls wording, he is walking a familiar path of reneging on everything. Just what he did when as official opposition leader, he defected to the government leaving Kanu in limbo and undermining the basis of pluralism. ODM Propaganda Uhuru never supported APK candidates -He only said he is supporting Kiraitu Murungi senatorial bid against ODMs Gitobu Imanyara because they never fielded a TNA candidate. FYI moments earlier in Igembe and Laare he had asked the electorate to give him a strong TNA parliamentary group . Be rest assured TNA will have the most members of parliament followed by URP come Mar 05 ODM might come a distant 3rd , You can take that to the bank. Young man, I do not wish to engage you in a pointless back and forth. That is not my style. The press reports about Uhuru's tour of Meru are available. Read them. And if you have half a brain, make what you will of them. As for your claims on who will win what, they are like a hyena howling in the dark night. Empty and pointless when the election is only a few days hence. There is a category of idlers all over the internet whose work is to declare that their candidate will win, infinitely, as if the loudest and most frequent declaration stuffs the ballot box. I cannot compete with you on this. If you make any claims, provide analysis and statistics to back em up. On that I can engage. A tiger does not announce its tigritude, it pounces. If URP and TNA are winning seats then you should be content and relaxed. You should not be all hot and bothered posting like crazy. Wait for your win. it is only next week. But let me humour you with 'facts': Kenya has only 3 cities. It seems to me that scientifically reported opinion indicates that these cities will only trust CORD candidates to run them. Cities happen to be the most cosmopolitan places in any country. This tale tells a story.
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Post by nereah on Feb 27, 2013 19:39:32 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2013 22:23:22 GMT 3
My mum cannot still reconcile herself with Ruto being a running mate of Uhuru and I have been counselling her on the matter of forgiveness...
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Post by nereah on Mar 2, 2013 13:06:56 GMT 3
My mum cannot still reconcile herself with Ruto being a running mate of Uhuru and I have been counselling her on the matter of forgiveness... kamale, i am strongly persuaded that your mum is a strong,circumspect and more importantly wise lady as i would imagine many of her age. can we therefore4 safely deduce that her predisposition is reflective of the residual communal anger and as such vindicate joshua arap sang(watch video below) and the cnn alarm bells on kenya that is being contested in another thread pinned up in jukwaa? [/quote]
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Post by nereah on Mar 17, 2013 15:15:55 GMT 3
habari ndio hizo! "And I warned our people that even if they denied Mudavadi the presidential vote, the two gentlemen would still runaway and auction the Senate and Parliamentary seats to Uhuru in a post-poll deal. This has come to pass,†-cyrus jirongo “Jubilee is not taking any chances on anything. In the event the CORD petition does not go our way, we would have expanded our team to face off with Raila and (running mate Vice-President Kalonzo) Musyoka,†the source confided to The Standard On Sunday. tovuti:alturl.com/wddbh
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