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Post by nereah on Mar 24, 2011 16:42:04 GMT 3
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Post by tnk on Mar 24, 2011 16:57:21 GMT 3
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Post by destiny on Mar 24, 2011 17:03:12 GMT 3
Last column written by Macharia Gaitho of DN says he's a Ugandan fugitive in Kenya wanted for some murders there. He's also a former spokesman of the murderous Joseph Koni of Lord's Resistance Army. He passes himself as a "Dr" Matsanga- conflict resolution "expert". I have seen him many times eating pizzas at Uchumi Hyper Ngong Rd. Errr what else? Oh, he's also Jeff Koinange's newest buddy always frequenting the bench almost weekly where he dishes his dubious Ocampo predictions. And of course at the bench we get nothing but really "soft ball" questions where Jeff let's off the guests easily.. plenty of laughs, girlish giggles and lots high fives and then were told it's an interview- Kenya's equivalent to CNN's Cross Fire..Puh-liz!............... Pooh! bure kabisa!
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Post by einstein on Mar 24, 2011 17:06:00 GMT 3
Nereah, Here is 'Dr.' Matsanga for you! A charlatan indeed!! Africa should interrogate and rethink ICC membershipPublished on 22/03/2011 David MatsangaI read with utter incredulity media reports that Kenya’s quest for a deferral of the cases at the International Criminal Court at The Hague had hit a dead end. Once again, Kenya’s excitable media have plunged headlong into the sea of misinformation. Not once have the media and those keen to peddle half-baked facts and unsolicited advice engaged in deep fishing especially with regard to the pending ICC cases. The fact of the matter is that the issue has not been debated formally and what happened last week was an informal session where members of the United Nation Security Council attended voluntarily. The thrust of shuttle diplomacy has been to convince the three veto-wielding nations (US, UK and France) to abscond voting and let the other nine to vote and thus nail the issue. But it would be unfair to apportion all blame to the media. A lot is attributable to ICC prosecutor , Luis Moreno-Ocampo. As matters stand, the medicine seems to be worse than the malady of impunity and past injustices. As I have said before, there was a better and effective way of addressing the problem. Whereas, there are those who think truth and justice is only determined and administered by the ICC and other foreign agencies on the continent, this court alone will not root out impunity. It will neither bring peace nor harmony. It is an instrument that has to be censured by the UN Security Council. Restorative justice is good for Kenya and Africa. Retributive justice will breed more violence and entrench animosity. The world needs Kenya. But Africa and especially East Africa, needs it more. It is this realisation that prompted the rigorous shuttle diplomacy. The world should be alive to the threat of a mass pull-out should the indictments proceed. There is a growing realisation that the ICC presents Africa with a cul de sac in terms of what it portends for peace, development and justice to a continent besot by a myriad of problems. It is on record that no African case has succeeded with the intervention of the ICC, be it Sudan, DRC or Uganda. There are many sides to the argument about Kenya and the ICC, but all in all, the risk of tearing apart the beacon of peace and stability in the region far much outweigh anything else at stake. Writer, a conflict resolution expert, features in lobbying DVD for deferral of Kenya’s ICC cases.www.standardmedia.co.ke/commentaries/InsidePage.php?id=2000031690&cid=15&The DVD is somewhere on Jukwaa. Will look for it. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 24, 2011 17:15:32 GMT 3
Matsanga seems to be one of the quacks the PNU are relying on for advice. According to what we know he was a spokesman for the Lords Resistance Army under the leadership of the wanted fugitive Mr. Kony. On that basis alone I think he has excellent credentials to be the advisor to warlords like Uhuru. He fits in perfectly.
But the one quack who is really nuts is Jeff Koinange himself. Listening to him in that video one can easily understand the mentality of the aristocrats. They think the country is their property and Jeff Koinange is waiting for the Kenyan "Hero" to save the country by standing up to Ocampo while peddling usual lies.
When Jeff Koinange talks about Kenyan heroes you need to take notice. The last time Koinange talked about heroic acts by Kenyans was about Uhuru burning children in their homes in Naivasha and that according Koinange was the ultimate heroism that saved the country from becoming another Rwanda. Now with heroes like that, our country is sure destined to great things.
But, Oh yeah, if the Ocampo six want to stand up, they are going to stand up alright, either in a jail cell at The Hague dancing with Charles Taylor or in a cave chilling with Mr. Kabuga. It is their choice and Kenya after all is a free country.
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Post by mtumishiman on Mar 24, 2011 17:31:54 GMT 3
Nereah, Here is 'Dr.' Matsanga for you! A charlatan indeed!! Africa should interrogate and rethink ICC membershipPublished on 22/03/2011 David MatsangaI read with utter incredulity media reports that Kenya’s quest for a deferral of the cases at the International Criminal Court at The Hague had hit a dead end. Once again, Kenya’s excitable media have plunged headlong into the sea of misinformation. Not once have the media and those keen to peddle half-baked facts and unsolicited advice engaged in deep fishing especially with regard to the pending ICC cases. The fact of the matter is that the issue has not been debated formally and what happened last week was an informal session where members of the United Nation Security Council attended voluntarily. The thrust of shuttle diplomacy has been to convince the three veto-wielding nations (US, UK and France) to abscond voting and let the other nine to vote and thus nail the issue. But it would be unfair to apportion all blame to the media. A lot is attributable to ICC prosecutor , Luis Moreno-Ocampo. As matters stand, the medicine seems to be worse than the malady of impunity and past injustices. As I have said before, there was a better and effective way of addressing the problem. Whereas, there are those who think truth and justice is only determined and administered by the ICC and other foreign agencies on the continent, this court alone will not root out impunity. It will neither bring peace nor harmony. It is an instrument that has to be censured by the UN Security Council. Restorative justice is good for Kenya and Africa. Retributive justice will breed more violence and entrench animosity. The world needs Kenya. But Africa and especially East Africa, needs it more. It is this realisation that prompted the rigorous shuttle diplomacy. The world should be alive to the threat of a mass pull-out should the indictments proceed. There is a growing realisation that the ICC presents Africa with a cul de sac in terms of what it portends for peace, development and justice to a continent besot by a myriad of problems. It is on record that no African case has succeeded with the intervention of the ICC, be it Sudan, DRC or Uganda. There are many sides to the argument about Kenya and the ICC, but all in all, the risk of tearing apart the beacon of peace and stability in the region far much outweigh anything else at stake. Writer, a conflict resolution expert, features in lobbying DVD for deferral of Kenya’s ICC cases.www.standardmedia.co.ke/commentaries/InsidePage.php?id=2000031690&cid=15&The DVD is somewhere on Jukwaa. Will look for it. Here is the DVD |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 24, 2011 18:31:56 GMT 3
It never ceases to amaze me how quick people are to dig dirt on anyone they do not like. But if you think about it who do you that has nothing hidden in some closet?
Matsanga may have been waiting on the devil - but today he is not. Debate his arguments not his person!
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Post by machoman12 on Mar 24, 2011 19:19:47 GMT 3
His CV is quite "impressive". He was also once a PR adviser to president Mugabe!
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Post by tnk on Mar 24, 2011 19:41:21 GMT 3
take away two items from that rambling The thrust of shuttle diplomacy has been to convince the three veto-wielding nations (US, UK and France) to abscond voting and let the other nine to vote and thus nail the issue. ==== Restorative justice is good for Kenya and Africa. Retributive justice will breed more violence and entrench animosity. first - why block the three of five veto holders (not in favor) while allowing the two (russia and china who are both in favor) ? if its a matter of true justice why do you ask those who are opposed to not participate? what type of idiocy is that? why not tell all 5 veto holders not to participate at all? on the second issue of restorative justice - one only needs look at the "success" of the TJRC and the kiplagat shenanigans. who does he think he is fooling |
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 24, 2011 20:00:53 GMT 3
It never ceases to amaze me how quick people are to dig dirt on anyone they do not like. But if you think about it who do you that has nothing hidden in some closet? Matsanga may have been waiting on the devil - but today he is not. Debate his arguments not his person! Which arguments of matsanga are we supposed to discuss? From his piece in the Standard, it seems his big idea was that the formal UNSC meeting will "nail" the deferral deal. That at best was delusional fantasy on his part as we now know for a fact. His other big idea is for Africa to pull out of the ICC enmasse. That is another delusional fantasy. To begin with matsanga does not speak for the AU. Who tells him Africa will walk out of ICC? And then he talks about the ICC "tearing apart" Kenya, the "beacon of peace". So how is trying people who are suspected of killing and raping Kenyans going to tear Kenya apart? How is seeking justice for the victims of PEV going to tear Kenya apart? Oh yes "beacon of peace" tell that to the 1,300 killed in the PEV. Are we talking about the peace of the graveyard? Is that really what Kenyans want? I don't think so. This dude is bankrupt. Maina Kiai wondered aloud where the Kenyan warlords get these convoluted characters. Well I guess for the warlords a person who has been the voice of the LRA working with Kony and an advisor to Mugabe and god knows which other scumbag has an excellent CV for them. When you are entering the gates of hell you need help from those familiar with hell. It musy be the birds of a feather thing. Shauri zao. adongo |
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Post by mugabe on Mar 24, 2011 20:44:06 GMT 3
Matsanga is a fraud and a former spokesperson of the feared LRA but it is not suprising that he has become well known since Kenya's Fox news TV aka K24 has annointed this fraud an expert. He has as much credibility as the so called experts who appear on Fox TV in the US. Jeff Koinange is Kenya's Glenn Beck. A pseudo-journalist if ever there was one.
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Post by nereah on Mar 25, 2011 13:42:30 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Jan 31, 2012 18:50:25 GMT 3
He has officially joined Team Uhuru 2012 Campaign Team, well known political gun-fo-hire.
Is now a frequent on-the-bench guest of Jeff Koinange like other persons I know.
K-24 is unofficial Team Uhuru news station.
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Post by nereah on Mar 3, 2012 13:25:56 GMT 3
jukwaa?what is this i am hearing about david matsanga whose middle name i am told means wivu ni mbaya in his ugandan dialect?
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Post by temesi on Mar 3, 2012 14:25:51 GMT 3
He he he.
David Matsanga.
I just don't trust the guy at all. Ati Conflict resolution expert!!!! SMH!!!!!
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Post by mank on Mar 4, 2012 5:27:53 GMT 3
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