|
Post by b6k on May 20, 2011 15:15:08 GMT 3
Whilst most Kenyans are least concerned about the recent events in New York City that led to the ouster of the ex IMF chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn (DSK), what happened is comparable, if not more important than, the death of Osama bin Laden. This article by a Canada based professor explores & explains many of the quirks in the whole affair & connects the dots that are not being connected by the main-stream media. It discloses Sarkozy's direct family ties with a CIA bigshot & its relevance in the perennial battle between Uncle Sam & Old Europe for global domination. It shows how market manipulation has raised food prices globally & the direct consequence of those actions in relation to the "Arab Awakening" witnessed in Tunisia, Egypt & beyond. It discusses why DSK has been rail-roaded by those in positions of power in NY; the same people who ordinarily would have extended a helping hand to him, have opted to throw him to the wolves. www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24866
|
|
|
Post by politicalmaniac on May 20, 2011 18:17:34 GMT 3
Oh man I had a good laugh with that article!
|
|
|
Post by merlin on May 21, 2011 0:15:45 GMT 3
I have nothing to laugh about. I perceive this as very serious in both ways. The whole situation does not sound very convincing having a chamber-maid entering the hotel suite while the guest is there. How come Dominique Strauss-Kahn travels without aids or security detail? It could very well be a frame-up to topple DSK and discredit the changes for a socialist president in France. Did DSK realise he was framed-up, which could be the reason he tried to run away? This is a very grave situation if it is a frame-up.
It is also a grave situation if he really abused the chamber-maid but why should he run away as he supposed to have influential friends in America? The easiest option was to offer financial compensation for damages to the chamber-maid.
Could it be he made arrangements to meet a professional sex worker who did not turn up?
Let’s see how the court case develops though if it is a frame-up then there also will be heavy pressure on the judiciary.
|
|
|
Post by politicalmaniac on May 21, 2011 0:59:21 GMT 3
DSK seems to be an arrogant misogynist with sexual addiction. I will wait to hear from the lady from Guinea, W Africa who was forced to perform outrageous acts by DSK to satisfy his craven desires. He had money why couldn't he simply make calls for a professional who can be paid for services rendered? His changing story is makes his case weaker by the day. Other sad stories on the plight of the Black woman. This week has been one in which another minority woman have been abused by their powerful bosses. Arnold, Ex Gov of California was screwing around with house help (something Kenyan men do everyday by the way). Then there was this story that was pointed out to me by a dear one why black women are ugly Boy are our women under siege or what. The guys says genetic mutations are responisble! And finally the never ending sad saga of constant rapes in Congo link ------>here Please affirm your (African) women today and everyday!!
|
|
|
Post by b6k on May 21, 2011 17:29:15 GMT 3
@ Merlin, the DSK case is bound to degenerate into a he said-she said contest where only the best lawyer will be left standing. DSK's lawyer, who defended Michael Jackson in one of his many cases that involved small boys, is bound to justify his collosal retainer fee. @ PM as far as DSK & paying for sex is concerned in Jan '06 (prior to his IMF days), he called a "madam" of a high class brothel & asked for an all american girl. The lady she sent complained of DSK's taste for rough sex. In Sept '06, he contacted the madam & she sent him a Brazilian lady who made no complaint. What did he pay each lady? $2,400 for 2 hours. (The madam claims David Beckham has been one of her personal clients). To keep that in perspective, the maid he attempted to rape is paid $3,000 a year by the hotel. It would take her 3 years working to afford to pay for 1 night in the suite DSK was in. In my view getting caught up with the sex crime misses the point. The question remains why DSK was hanged out to dry like a commoner yet he is one of the global elite? His tenure at the IMF has seen him handle European countries (Greece, Ireland & Portugal) loans with kid gloves when compared to how African countries in debt are handled or with how the Asian tigers were dealt with in the '90s. This didn't go down well with US bankers. DSK was protecting the Euro zone. PM may scoff at the notion that it all doesn't matter. Tell that to the demonstrators in Spain who are feeling the pinch of high inflation, unemployment & a bleak future. Things will only get worse with the hawks back in charge. He's been replaced with a J P Morgan stooge, albeit in an acting capacity. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1388447/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-quits-IMF-chief-Kristin-Davis-claims-paid-2-500-escort-girls.html
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 22, 2011 7:48:47 GMT 3
I have nothing to laugh about. I perceive this as very serious in both ways. The whole situation does not sound very convincing having a chamber-maid entering the hotel suite while the guest is there. How come Dominique Strauss-Kahn travels without aids or security detail? It could very well be a frame-up to topple DSK and discredit the changes for a socialist president in France. Did DSK realise he was framed-up, which could be the reason he tried to run away? This is a very grave situation if it is a frame-up. It is also a grave situation if he really abused the chamber-maid but why should he run away as he supposed to have influential friends in America? The easiest option was to offer financial compensation for damages to the chamber-maid. Could it be he made arrangements to meet a professional sex worker who did not turn up? Let’s see how the court case develops though if it is a frame-up then there also will be heavy pressure on the judiciary. www.counterpunch.org/
|
|
|
Post by commes on May 23, 2011 10:37:38 GMT 3
B6K, I think that RASNA WARAH heard you. In his Sunday, post of May 22 2011, he gives a picture of how this would have transpired in Kenya. What comes out is that as much as we have rights enshrined in the constitutions that is as far as it goes. DSK is no small figure by Kenyan standards. So, what if IMF chief had been accused of raping a cleaning woman in Kenya?The most astonishing aspect of the Dominique Strauss-Kahn scandal that hogged the headlines last week is not that the head of the International Monetary Fund sexually assaulted an African chambermaid in a New York hotel, but that he was actually arrested and charged with the crime. What heartens me about this case is that the New York City law enforcers did not consider the wealth, power, or influence of the accused when they made the arrest, which would definitely not be the case if the alleged crime had occurred in a poor developing country such as Kenya.This is not to suggest that the US criminal justice system is superior to that of other countries (though the US justice system does tend to view everyone equal before the law, regardless of status, which is not so in many other countries, and it is probably less corruptible.) Let us for one moment imagine that the IMF chief was accused of sexual assault by a cleaner in one of Nairobi’s posh five-star hotels. The most likely outcomes of this scenario would be the following:a) the hotel manager would not believe the cleaner, and even if he would, he would certainly not report the crime to the police for fear of damaging both the hotel’s and its famous client’s reputation. b) Even if the crime was reported, the police would be easily persuaded to bungle or cover up the evidence. c) In the event that the allegation would be leaked to the press, attempts would be made to depict the victim as a gold digger who saw an opportunity to make loads of money from a rich mzungu. d) The government and the diplomatic community would quickly swing into action and claim that the IMF boss enjoyed diplomatic immunity, which prevented him from being charged in a court of law in Kenya (after all, the accused heads an institution that decides the financial fate of poor countries such as Kenya). e) If all else fails, attempts would be made to buy off the victim or to threaten her with retaliatory action, such as dismissal. A few years ago I was told a story (which I cannot validate) of a high-ranking employee of an international organisation based in Nairobi who was caught red-handed in his office having sex with the tea-maker. The story was the butt of many jokes among staff in this particular organisation, but no one thought of the fate of the woman, who was promptly fired. What’s more, the man was never reprimanded for his actions (which were clearly exploitative); on the contrary, he was promoted. People who have worked for international organisations based in Kenya will tell you that this is not unusual, especially if the perpetrator is a white man. They will also tell you that sexual abuse and exploitation of local Kenyan women by diplomats and bureaucrats working for international organisations is more common than we would like to believe, perhaps because it is easier to get away with it in a poor country like Kenya, where women can be easily “bought” or enticed with money or other inducements. Men with power tend to get away with all sorts of crimes, simply because they are powerful. They feel a perverse kind of satisfaction from having sex with women who are not in a position to say No (because they are too afraid), or who are too much in awe of them to recognise that they are being violated (remember Monica Lewinsky?) Men who don’t need to (because they are too rich, too attractive, or happily married) also are known to pay for sex. (As did actor Hugh Grant some years ago, and as do many rich and powerful men in Kenya who can be seen cruising Nairobi’s notorious “K Street” in the wee hours of the morning.) But I don’t want to dwell too much on the psychology of power and what it does to men. Let us just accept that men — powerful or not — are weird and will do bizarre things. Regardless of whether Strauss-Kahn is guilty or not, his case may have one positive impact — it may embolden women to report sexual abuse by rich, powerful, or influential men without fearing retaliation.
|
|
emali
Full Member
Posts: 219
|
Post by emali on May 23, 2011 12:55:25 GMT 3
The first thing that came to mind when the DSK story hit the news was the great documentary “Inside Job”…he easily was the most high profile person Interwieved who was supposed to be ‘with the system’ i.e. Wall Street but was not…actually at one point the interviewer is astonished with his candor regarding the true feelings of the Bank presidents/CEO’s who almost collapsed the worlds markets in 2008…
That was the first time I had heard of him…then this crazy story…don’t want to sound like one of those 911 conspiracy theorists…but you never know…the story is too crazy…making it a fabrication or VERY real…
|
|
|
Post by b6k on May 23, 2011 17:02:11 GMT 3
Commes indeed it seems Rasna caught the DSK bug but her argument actually goes against mine. She writes that in KE, DSK would've been protected by the establishment. I say it is actually the same even in the west. Just look at all the women who have made allegations against him in the past & no action was taken against him. The true elite anywhere in the world have varying degrees of privilege that cushions them from prosecution.
Emali is onto a possible reason why DSK had a falling out with the powers that be (in the US at least) when he refers to the movie/documentary, "Inside Job". DSK talked too much & way too candidly against a system he has been a beneficiary of. A quotation from Wikipedia from "Inside Job" follows:
“Strauss-Kahn made comments that could be perceived as critical of global financial actors, in an interview for a documentary about the Late-2000s financial crisis, Inside Job (2010). He said he had attended a dinner organised by former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson in which several CEOs of ‘the biggest banks in the U.S’ had admitted they (or perhaps bankers in general) were ‘too greedy’ and bore part of the responsibility for the crisis. They said the government ” ’should regulate more, because we are too greedy, we can’t avoid it.’ ” Strauss-Kahn said he warned the officials of a number of departments of the U.S. government of an impending crisis. He also said: “At the end of the day, the poorest – as always – pay the most.”"
It seems you can't have a banker with a heart, his other indiscretions notwithstanding. Little wonder he's been left twisting in the wind in financial capital of the world, NYC.
|
|
|
Post by roughrider on May 23, 2011 18:12:22 GMT 3
Whilst most Kenyans are least concerned about the recent events in New York City that led to the ouster of the ex IMF chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn (DSK), what happened is comparable, if not more important than, the death of Osama bin Laden. This article by a Canada based professor explores & explains many of the quirks in the whole affair & connects the dots that are not being connected by the main-stream media. It discloses Sarkozy's direct family ties with a CIA bigshot & its relevance in the perennial battle between Uncle Sam & Old Europe for global domination. It shows how market manipulation has raised food prices globally & the direct consequence of those actions in relation to the "Arab Awakening" witnessed in Tunisia, Egypt & beyond. It discusses why DSK has been rail-roaded by those in positions of power in NY; the same people who ordinarily would have extended a helping hand to him, have opted to throw him to the wolves. www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24866 That is one poorly written article. It is full of unsubstantiated innuendo and claims. There are no arguments that lead to inescapable conclusions. News reports have published 'facts' that this article fails to consider in entirety. It lacks balance and structure. I have serious doubts about whether whoever wrote is a 'professor' else he/she gives a bad name to professorship. I could cut this to pieces but perhaps it is not worth the effort: its not even sophisticated enough for an undergraduate study in fallacy. Worst of all, there is an unforgivable rush to judgement: as DSK's case unfolds perhaps there will be egg on a lot of faces. Not the least, this hapless professor. With regards, RR
|
|
|
Post by b6k on May 24, 2011 8:06:48 GMT 3
RR, whether the article is well written badly or not is simply your opinion as Merlin would say. What it adds to the "facts" that have been peddled by the mainstream press is the connections behind the players, both the visible ones & those behind the scenes. The tactic of using in laws to front companies & parastatals was very common in the Moi era. He even had his barely literate bastard son run a multinational conglomerate in KE. It's entirely plausible Sarkozy has used his family CIA connections to get to where he is today.
These facts you speak of, can we analyze the one that starts the whole sexual assault saga. What are the odds that a 62 year old man can walk out of the shower naked, find a maid going about her daily duties & immediately rise to the occasion to want some action? Methinks you need to read up on your biology as well as an older gent will require more than visual priming to get started. To paraphrase an old joke, 62 may not go into 32 as often as you think. The spirit may be willing but the flesh is weak at that age.
|
|
|
Post by roughrider on May 25, 2011 10:57:13 GMT 3
RR, whether the article is well written badly or not is simply your opinion as Merlin would say. What it adds to the "facts" that have been peddled by the mainstream press is the connections behind the players, both the visible ones & those behind the scenes. The tactic of using in laws to front companies & parastatals was very common in the Moi era. He even had his barely literate bastard son run a multinational conglomerate in KE. It's entirely plausible Sarkozy has used his family CIA connections to get to where he is today. These facts you speak of, can we analyze the one that starts the whole sexual assault saga. What are the odds that a 62 year old man can walk out of the shower naked, find a maid going about her daily duties & immediately rise to the occasion to want some action? Methinks you need to read up on your biology as well as an older gent will require more than visual priming to get started. To paraphrase an old joke, 62 may not go into 32 as often as you think. The spirit may be willing but the flesh is weak at that age. Since the 'prof' himself begins by asserting that he has no evidence of a plot against DSK (although he goes on to write as if there was one!), I think there is not much use in splitting hairs. I am contented to wait and watch as the case unfolds. Tow things have come up so far: First, the presence of DSK's semen on the poor lady's clothing (confirmed via DNA) and secondly the defense is pursuing a defense of 'consensual sex'. That is, 'yes there was sexual encounter but it was mutually agreed' When the case is done we can come back to this article. It will still be here.
|
|
|
Post by b6k on May 25, 2011 21:58:55 GMT 3
RR, sounds fair enough.
|
|
|
Post by politicalmaniac on May 28, 2011 0:12:28 GMT 3
|
|
|
Post by b6k on May 28, 2011 6:29:04 GMT 3
There's little doubt DSK is a pig. One report had it that even on the plane just moments before his arrest he verbally admired an air hostess's posterier. The guy just could never turn it off...
|
|
emali
Full Member
Posts: 219
|
Post by emali on Jul 1, 2011 10:37:32 GMT 3
|
|
|
Post by commes on Jul 1, 2011 11:03:33 GMT 3
Wow! Someone is spinning a strong hypothesis from the link you provided. Framed-up or set up, this thing has stained DSK and could as well have finished his presidential ambitions
|
|
|
Post by mzalendo on Jul 1, 2011 11:27:29 GMT 3
Wow! Someone is spinning a strong hypothesis from the link you provided. Framed-up or set up, this thing has stained DSK and could as well have finished his presidential ambitions Suppose the charges are dropped. Is it going to turn his fortunes in regards to his presidential ambitions. And preliminary reports indicate there was sexual encounter between the lady and DSK which can only means this lady could have been digging some gold and shooting herself to fame(shame). talk about killing a two birds with one stone. What a stressful moment for the poor man.
|
|
|
Post by b6k on Jul 1, 2011 12:51:50 GMT 3
Folks, even if the charges are dropped, & they most likely will be going by the dirt the prosecution has dug up about THEIR witness, the damage is already done. It was a step above the Bill Clinton on camera testimony since DSK was perp walked & hauled off to an NY court. Like Clinton, even if he is eventually cleared of any wrong-doing, the sordid details that came out about the liaison with maid would make it difficult for him to head the IMF or France for that matter. You can't force toothpaste back into the tube once you squeeze it out. I saw Clinton on CNN last night & the first thing to mind is keep him away from cigars.
Commes, the conspiracy theorists seem to be winning the day this time around. Not necessarily because they planted the maid, but more probably because they took advantage of a bad situation for DSK & made it a lot worse by not granting him the usual Kabogo type immunity that is the norm even in the west. It's interesting how the NY cops dismissal of a conspiracy theory sounds very similar to our boys in blue here in KE. Go figure!
|
|
|
Post by b6k on Jul 1, 2011 19:14:46 GMT 3
As expected, DSK has been released from the house arrest regime he was under. His $6m cash bail & bond has been refunded in full. The prosecution is still trying to cling on to the case, like a bad stain, using the semen on the victim's uniform. As stated earlier, echoes of Clinton here. All the DNA proves is DSK, like Slick Willy, makes bad judgement calls when it comes to such matters. Expect a major lawsuit from DSK against the NYC DA, if only to get some compensation for the embarrassment of being rail-roaded. It's the least he can do. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13993866
|
|
|
Post by jakaswanga on Jul 3, 2011 19:27:05 GMT 3
b6k, Are we saying here this encounter was with consent? a bit rougher than the girl had anticipated, seeing the old bugger wanted to jam it all down her throat? but consential in essence nevertheless??? It wont be the first time an aristocrat gets away with the rape of a lower class female. I have been looking for feminists in the US crawling out of the woodwork, but they seem to have swallowed an omerta pill! This african girl is on her own!
|
|
|
Post by tnk on Jul 4, 2011 1:42:08 GMT 3
b6k, Are we saying here this encounter was with consent? a bit rougher than the girl had anticipated, seeing the old bugger wanted to jam it all down her throat? but consential in essence nevertheless??? It wont be the first time an aristocrat gets away with the rape of a lower class female. I have been looking for feminists in the US crawling out of the woodwork, but they seem to have swallowed an omerta pill! This african girl is on her own! to the moderators of jukwaa there is a type of language creeping onto jukwaa that is unnecessary
|
|
|
Post by mzalendo on Jul 4, 2011 11:24:56 GMT 3
Tnk, What language are you talking about? from the paragraphs you have quoted i can only read statements. or have you people written some sheng here. ;D
|
|
|
Post by b6k on Jul 4, 2011 13:14:06 GMT 3
b6k, Are we saying here this encounter was with consent? a bit rougher than the girl had anticipated, seeing the old bugger wanted to jam it all down her throat? but consential in essence nevertheless??? It wont be the first time an aristocrat gets away with the rape of a lower class female. I have been looking for feminists in the US crawling out of the woodwork, but they seem to have swallowed an omerta pill! This african girl is on her own! Jakaswanga, I see you've managed to raise up a storm in my absence. The presence of a stain doesn't prove anything other than a sex act took place. It could've been consensual or it could've been forced. If there was no clear evidence of force (torn clothes, bruises, etc on both parties) then things quickly go pear shaped for the prosecution. NB forensics cops over there can take photos of all angles of both parties in the buff looking for nicks & scratches (most embarrassing treatment for a presidential hopeful). They just don't take your word for it. The photo evidence must speak for itself. These are not KE cops whose only tool seems to be a written statement in an outdated OB tome at the police counter. This is where the credibility of the witness becomes critical. If things have deteriorated this far for the DA, don't be surprised if it's thrown out entirely.
|
|
|
Post by b6k on Jul 4, 2011 15:19:14 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, it looks like it's all over for the maid & she may be deported back to Africa when all is said & done. Is it possible for a rape victim to have casually gone by her duty & cleaned another room after the rape? She also allegedly had a history of exchanging sex for cash at the Sofitel & there may have been a misunderstanding by DSK that he was expected to pay. The theory now appears to be French Intelligence infiltrated the hotel management & ensured the French speaking maid would be the one to "clean" out DSK. If that's the case, then the set up may go right back to Sarkozy who was feeling the heat from a much anticipated DSK candidature for his seat. www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8614282/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-accuser-could-face-perjury-charges.html
|
|