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Post by Fahari on Sept 19, 2011 2:03:13 GMT 3
I am an unmitigated urbanite born and bred in nairobi therefore I am always fascinated by nairobi politics and the awful waste of its potential due to inept leadership, Next year we have a chance of actually determining the CEO of Nairobi and hopefully the course of the county check out this clip
Forget Philip Kisia he has been a rather lack lustre town clerk especially since he took over from the result oriented Gakuo a man who succeeded where many had failed, he cleaned up the city, a task that had been considered impossible. Kisia has failed to maintain let alone surpass Gakuo's standards
Jimnah mbaru is probably too old, and stuck in the old ways of doing business not one to lead us into the technology generation.
Of the all candidates on this clip I would vote for Evans Kidero, (apart from being an incredibly good looking man he has the brilliant mind to go with it.) He has a proven track record as CEO in multi million industries, he has successfully headed and turned around ,smith kline beecham, nation and mumias and recorded profitability in all those companies . The big question is, will nairobians vote for a non politician, non ethnicised (so far) person for governor?
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Post by b6k on Sept 19, 2011 8:29:18 GMT 3
Fahari, so you rate EK first by his looks then by his managerial skills? This is why the Clinton's & Obama's of this world will always do well with the ladies. I do agree that he will be a candidate to watch but that's not based on his looks but more on his organizational skills & how they may turn around Nairobi County. I think he's been having tough time at Mumias & could use the sweet deal as governor for much needed a career change.
You forgot to mention a few other "notables" gunning for this seat. Dick Wathika (who had ignomiously "retired" from politics after his last shellacking in the by-elections) & Ferdinand Waititu. KE politics is always more than ready to recycle its trash.
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Post by Fahari on Sept 19, 2011 20:00:41 GMT 3
Fahari, so you rate EK first by his looks then by his managerial skills? This is why the Clinton's & Obama's of this world will always do well with the ladies. I do agree that he will be a candidate to watch but that's not based on his looks but more on his organizational skills & how they may turn around Nairobi County. I think he's been having tough time at Mumias & could use the sweet deal as governor for much needed a career change. You forgot to mention a few other "notables" gunning for this seat. Dick Wathika (who had ignomiously "retired" from politics after his last shellacking in the by-elections) & Ferdinand Waititu. KE politics is always more than ready to recycle its trash. B6k, The looks part was an aside, done with tongue firmly in cheek, thus the brackets. You may have noticed that female candidates always get their looks and even their private lives analysed regardless of their performance in public life. However do not underestimate the power of looks as a vote puller, as you have rightly pointed out it worked pretty well for Clinton and Obama. I didn't forget the two unmentionable candidates, they simply don't present anything worth mentioning as far as organisational skills and fiscal management is concerned. Nairobi needs a CEO who looks as the county as a business enterprise . Now if we were discussing rabble rousing, those two would have been my top candidates.
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Post by kamalet on Sept 19, 2011 20:20:46 GMT 3
With the failed Kisia experiment, if you ask me, the next CEO of the city needs to be an administrator like Gakuo - which is the reason he succeeded where others had failed! Give me Gakuo any day to run my city!
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Post by b6k on Sept 19, 2011 20:27:37 GMT 3
Fahari, so the brackets were the cheeks? Now I know...
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Post by joblesscorner on Sept 19, 2011 23:37:27 GMT 3
Nairobi has so many interesting folks running for the Governor, am hoping Waititu does not win.
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Post by joblesscorner on Sept 19, 2011 23:48:22 GMT 3
I don't think we need a county in a Metropolitan city like Nairobi! From a public Administration background, we have City,Town,Municipal and County councils, Since Nairobi already has a City Govt., why would you want to replace it with County? If you look at other world class city they are run by Mayor's. eg Chicago, NewYork, Brisbane, Calgary, Dubai, Mexico City et cetera.They should have left the City alone to be managed by a mayor,just like other world capitals, but elect him directly. www.citymayors.com/sections/mayors_content.html
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Post by joblesscorner on Sept 20, 2011 0:01:04 GMT 3
I do know another person who wants to run for Governor, His name is James Ololo, here is a video of him, talking about Leadership.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Sept 20, 2011 0:34:42 GMT 3
Sonko has also expressed his desire to go for the post . read somewhere that as part of preparations for the more prestigious office he has enrolled for a BA sociology course and hopes to graduate by next year.
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Post by man on Sept 20, 2011 10:43:33 GMT 3
Who said that Kisia has failed? On the contrary he has done very well. He has managed to dismantle most of the cartels that existed at city hall, not to mention the increased revenue. I think he deserves to be governor
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Post by kasuku on Sept 20, 2011 10:50:50 GMT 3
James Ololo will be the first Nairobi Governor. Watch him being elected mostly by youth. He has captured many youth in facebook by personaly interacting with them...no, not in sheng. Very clever indeed. Next he and his team are going to mingle with the youth kwa mtara. James Ololo in den Haque
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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 20, 2011 19:34:25 GMT 3
Sonko has also expressed his desire to go for the post . read somewhere that as part of preparations for the more prestigious office he has enrolled for a BA sociology course and hopes to graduate by next year. Akinyi,You seem to say it more like a slight joke, but it is true that Sonko wants to run for nairobi governor. But there is an orchestrated attempt to dissuade him, from the government, and that will be a unified position of both ODM and PNU. This is why he has not announced it in a media event. I came across this information in Nairobi last month when I and my turnboys were sleeping rough in a lorry park. The policemen we had hired to guard us joined in the political talk an confirmed that three of Sonko's campaign managers had been visited by plain clothes kutoka juu kabisa. As to Sonko's study plans. I have no info. Can Sonko beat Kidero or any other 'official' candidate? I think so. And apparently other people share this view.
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Post by phil on Sept 20, 2011 19:47:32 GMT 3
With the failed Kisia experiment, if you ask me, the next CEO of the city needs to be an administrator like Gakuo - which is the reason he succeeded where others had failed! Give me Gakuo any day to run my city! Who said that Kisia has failed? On the contrary he has done very well. He has managed to dismantle most of the cartels that existed at city hall, not to mention the increased revenue. I think he deserves to be governor IS that the same John Gakuo of the cemetery scam? The same one who tried on several occassions to irregularly dispose of CNN residential properties at Woodley, Kariokor and other old estates of Nairobi? The same John Gakuo who could not repair roads in most constituencies of Nairobi until Kisia cam through? Or the same Gakuo who evicted poor residents of Muthurwa to build a humongous white elephant and passing it off as dump yard for thousands of hawkers and a failed bus terminus for matatus originating from Eastlands?? Ati John Gakuo! Eeissh. Saa zingine hapa Jukwaa kuna aibu ndogo ndogo. Toa hiyo!
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Post by akinyi2005 on Sept 20, 2011 20:59:14 GMT 3
Jakaswanga,
I have just seen the clip of sonko bulldozing his way at JKIA to join fellow members of the muthamaki cult and am speechless. How the likes of sonko can dare dream of becoming governor of Nairobi is even more depressing. Frankly it wouldn't come as a surprise to me if this guy actally fulfills his 'dream.'
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Post by kasuku on Sept 21, 2011 14:52:52 GMT 3
I wouldn’t underrate Sonko’s intelligence. He has some street cleverness and has found a niche ignored by many but successfully used by the likes of mungiki.
The youth have being promised riches many times and which never came. Such tactics don’t work today. `Using youth’s frustration to gain power is Sonkos bad “boy” behavior ticket to power.
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Post by afrigun on Sept 21, 2011 17:02:07 GMT 3
I don't think we need a county in a Metropolitan city like Nairobi! From a public Administration background, we have City,Town,Municipal and County councils, Since Nairobi already has a City Govt., why would you want to replace it with County? If you look at other world class city they are run by Mayor's. eg Chicago, NewYork, Brisbane, Calgary, Dubai, Mexico City et cetera.They should have left the City alone to be managed by a mayor,just like other world capitals, but elect him directly. www.citymayors.com/sections/mayors_content.html if Mudavadi and parliament have their way, the City will be run by a Clerk/Manager appointed by the Governor. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mayors+tossed+into+history+dustbin/-/1064/1224834/-/w9801yz/-/index.html
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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 21, 2011 19:02:50 GMT 3
I wouldn’t underrate Sonko’s intelligent. He has some street cleverness and has found a niche ignored by many but successfully used by the likes of mungiki. The youth have being promised riches many times and which never came. Such tactics don’t work today. `Using youth’s frustration to gain power is Sonkos bad “boy” behavior ticket to power. Yes Kasuku, This sonko guy has beaten Karua the iron lady. She was all steam about disciplining him and even expelling him! But wapi? there is mheshimiwa in full throttle everywhere. By the way, the name recognition of the brand sonko, to put it in marketing terms which all these candidates seem to speak, is a market leader in Nairobi. In a free and fair election for the governor of Nairobi against the already declared candidates, would I put my money on Sonko winning? Yes I would.
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Post by Fahari on Sept 21, 2011 23:51:34 GMT 3
Who said that Kisia has failed? On the contrary he has done very well. He has managed to dismantle most of the cartels that existed at city hall, not to mention the increased revenue. I think he deserves to be governor What has he done with the increased revenue? Please do elaborate, then we may be in a position to discuss the merits or demerits of his reign. Majority of nairobians feel that he has failed to maintain the standards set by Gakuo
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Post by Fahari on Sept 22, 2011 1:47:31 GMT 3
Sonko has also expressed his desire to go for the post . read somewhere that as part of preparations for the more prestigious office he has enrolled for a BA sociology course and hopes to graduate by next year. Akinyi,You seem to say it more like a slight joke, but it is true that Sonko wants to run for nairobi governor. But there is an orchestrated attempt to dissuade him, from the government, and that will be a unified position of both ODM and PNU. This is why he has not announced it in a media event. I came across this information in Nairobi last month when I and my turnboys were sleeping rough in a lorry park. The policemen we had hired to guard us joined in the political talk an confirmed that three of Sonko's campaign managers had been visited by plain clothes kutoka juu kabisa. As to Sonko's study plans. I have no info. Can Sonko beat Kidero or any other 'official' candidate? I think so. And apparently other people share this view. Trust Sonko to be under the illusion that it only takes a year to get a bachelors degree, he must believe that a college degree is akin to one of those courses one acquires from an "upstairs college" that's how we referred to commercial colleges. My understanding of Nairobi politics makes it inconceivable that sonko would beat Kidero; I base it on two issues: power politics and ethnic demographics I will deal with the power issue as demographics speak for themselves I would like to start with the premise that Nairobi is a business town, nobody and nothing is allowed to interfere with the pursuit of money. Sonko is most likely be viewed as an impediment to that pursuit, thus extremely unappealing as a candidate for governor, an anathema The second thing to note is that “Nairobi ina wenyewe". Sonko is a rank outsider, the "owners" of Nairobi will never allow an outsider to take the helm. The power structure in Nairobi is split between the kikuyu /river road business axis, the shrinking Indian dukawallahs, the industrialists of whatever shade and the service sector business interests. These are the people who “own” Nairobi and who finance elections. To get elected, one would have to garner the support of at least one of these interests groups. Now which one of these groups do you think would back sonko?
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Post by kasuku on Sept 22, 2011 9:51:22 GMT 3
Akinyi,Trust Sonko to be under the illusion that it only takes a year to get a bachelors degree, he must believe that a college degree is akin to one of those courses one acquires from an "upstairs college" that's how we referred to commercial colleges. My understanding of Nairobi politics makes it inconceivable that sonko would beat Kidero; I base it on two issues: power politics and ethnic demographics I will deal with the power issue as demographics speak for themselves I would like to start with the premise that Nairobi is a business town, nobody and nothing is allowed to interfere with the pursuit of money. Sonko is most likely be viewed as an impediment to that pursuit, thus extremely unappealing as a candidate for governor, an anathema The second thing to note is that “Nairobi ina wenyewe". Sonko is a rank outsider, the "owners" of Nairobi will never allow an outsider to take the helm. The power structure in Nairobi is split between the kikuyu /river road business axis, the shrinking Indian dukawallahs, the industrialists of whatever shade and the service sector business interests. These are the people who “own” Nairobi and who finance elections. To get elected, one would have to garner the support of at least one of these interests groups. Now which one of these groups do you think would back sonko? That’s what you would think at first; that without that group you have just mentioned, no way can you be elected as the governor of Nairobi. But you are forgetting that Nairobi has also other wenyewes; The poor and the under-class who is fuming with anger and hate for those high-end class.Tactics of winning votes are changing and sonko knows that very well. In fact all over the world elections tactics are changing. Look Germany’s capital city Governor/Mayor elections…a party known as the pirates has joined the senate although no one is sure they know what they are going to do there. These are computer freaks whose main interest is to protect the Internet freedom from politics. Things are changing world-wide The Rights to a City, is a world-wide debate going on... "The question of what kind of city we want cannot be divorced from that of what kind of social ties, relationship to nature, lifestyles, technologies and aesthetic values we desire. The right to the city is far more than the individual liberty to access urban resources: it is a right to change ourselves by changing the city. It is, moreover, a common rather than an individual right since this transformation inevitably depends upon the exercise of a collective power to reshape the processes of urbanization. The freedom to make and remake our cities and ourselves is, I want to argue, one of the most precious yet most neglected of our human rights."DAVID HARVEY
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Post by joblesscorner on Sept 29, 2011 3:44:37 GMT 3
here is James Oloo
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 1, 2011 13:22:34 GMT 3
My understanding of Nairobi politics makes it inconceivable that sonko would beat Kidero; I base it on two issues: power politics and ethnic demographics I will deal with the power issue as demographics speak for themselves I would like to start with the premise that Nairobi is a business town, nobody and nothing is allowed to interfere with the pursuit of money. Sonko is most likely be viewed as an impediment to that pursuit, thus extremely unappealing as a candidate for governor, an anathema The second thing to note is that “Nairobi ina wenyewe". Sonko is a rank outsider, the "owners" of Nairobi will never allow an outsider to take the helm. The power structure in Nairobi is split between the kikuyu /river road business axis, the shrinking Indian dukawallahs, the industrialists of whatever shade and the service sector business interests. These are the people who “own” Nairobi and who finance elections. To get elected, one would have to garner the support of at least one of these interests groups. Now which one of these groups do you think would back sonko? Fahari,I was putting the qualification free and fair. Unrigged elections. One of the ways in which the 2012 elections are going to be pre-rigged is on the issue of ID-cards to the youth. There is a three year backlog on the issuance of this document. And estimates vary from 2 to 4 million affected youth countrywide. That is say 3 million votes eliminated; votes hostile to the status-quo, votes likely to be adventurous in their choice. A SONGO constituency in a cynical election. Kasuku has already done this.. taking a look at the demographics of Nairobi county! She postulated Nairobi is a high conflict zone, and its ownershipo is in flux. This theory of the uncertainity, or potential flux of Nairobi's loyalties, brings me to another woeful point. The lack of calibre candidates for the county of Nairobi.Ordinarily, the most prestigious governorship in electoral systems, should attract the most ambitious and formidable of candidates. Because it is a training ground for the presidency. A man or woman who runs the monster Nairobi well, will run Kenya easy. I think people like Tuju and Peter Kenneth would have shown their mantle by first running Nairobi state. But as things are now, Sonko's claim is as good as theirs! Nairobi is a deadly city. An effective man who means business will run into conflict with her owners you say. Claiming the grabbed plots back is already taking on the top families in Kenya, current and past. A new roadnetwork system to easien traffic circulation runs into the same problem. Can you imagine Kidero widening up Outer ring Road from Embakasi to Dandora, flattening those flats lining Tassia, Donholm and Buruburu shopping center which are positively on the road reserve? Now, because there are no serious men running for this seat, a populist clown can beat the pack! All would be serious men are AFRAID! leaving old crap be be recycled. But songo [sonko] has a street act. Like that Embakasi man. Take a look at this caveatSonko in his clownishness is a genuine article. In him, all the masks and disguises of sophistication which the ruling clique covers themselves in to hoodwink the populace, are done away with. No complexes, you know, like street prostitutes do not complicate issues like their high class hotel sisters do. They are what they are and their clients are what they are, and the transaction is not coached in false romantics... [patriotism, nationalism, progressiveness..]. Down to boot if we had a working legal system, who in parliament would be out of jail? Few can point at Sonko and say he is a drug lord, corrupt and a cheat! Easily that would be an appropriate defination of Kibaki, or any random member of his cabinet! And the young people of Nairobi know. This clown is a genuine article then!
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Post by phil on Oct 6, 2011 17:04:27 GMT 3
Nairobi County campaigns are ON. But sending thugs like Livondo to disrupt ODM meetings is not the best of ideas. Livondo adds very little value to Uhuru Kenyatta as far as Nairobi in concerned. It is already enough headache to try and see who between Beth Mugo, Maina Kamanda and Ferdinand Waititu will run for governor and/or senator. Livondo shoots in the air at Kidero’s meeting Thursday, 06 October 2011 00:02 BY CHRISPINUS WEKESA AND MAXWEL MASAVA
EARLY CAMPAIGN: Nairobi governor aspirant Evans Kidero speaks to Langata ODM members at Nyayo Stadium yesterday. Photo/Chrispinus wekesa
PNU activist Stanley Livondo yesterday drew a pistol and shot once in the air after his attempts to disrupt a meeting convened by Nairobi governor aspirant Dr Evans Kidero turned violent. A group of youth attending the meeting in support of Kidero hurriedly intercepted Livondo whom they accused of being used by unnamed politicians to taint their candidate's name.
Lang’ata police boss David Bunei said he was yet to get a report on the incident but promised to investigate the claims of the activist shooting in the air. “I haven’t received any report yet, but I will call officers on the ground the get a brief of what transpired,” said Bunei. Livondo is a licensed firearm holder.
Eyewitnesses said as the youth were baying for his blood, a scuffle ensued and Livondo slapped a security guard. He pulled out his pistol and shot once in the air and sped off in a white Salon Toyota NZE. “Livondo wanted to taint my name. Let him go away because I have nothing in common with him. Why did he walk into a meeting that he was not invited?” posed Kidero.
Leaders who spoke at the meeting also condemned Livondo with some saying that he is being used by Kidero's opponents. “Since when did Livondo and Kidero walk together? They are sending Livondo to our meeting so that they can destroy our votes. Luckily you saw how we evicted him!” said Ochieng Jera, the ODM organizing secretary for Langata constituency.
Ahmed Ibrahim alias Johnny called on the Langata constituents to vote in Fred Gumo as the senator for Nairobi and Kidero as governor with Prime minister Raila Odinga as president. “We need Kidero as governor because that position needs a trustworthy person who can deliver. Kidero has revolutionalised Mumias Sugar Company and it’s now profitable,” Johny said in praise of Kidero.
Women leaders urged Kidero to seek grassroots support and go to every ward and meet the local people. “A woman marries one husband. She doesn’t marry two. If she does, it’s wrong. We will not leave you.” The women told Kidero.
Ochieng Jera added that next year Langata constituency will not have Raila Odinga because he is going for the big seat and the constituency should replace him with Kidero. “Kisia is our brother. But with this seat, he can make a good running mate to Kidero. This is a competent team and we will tell Kisia to relax," he said.
On his part, Kidero added that if elected, he will ensure that every household in Kibera has access to clean water. “Thirty per cent of the Nairobi resources will go to women. Soon I will be on the ground and I urge you not to prevent anybody from campaigning. Give them the best welcome,” Kidero said.
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Post by b6k on Oct 6, 2011 19:06:45 GMT 3
This is what happens when a semi-literate buffoon can be allowed to get a license to carry a firearm. Maybe a written test on how & when to use a pistol should be considered as a hurdle to screen out the likes of Livondo.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 6, 2011 23:25:18 GMT 3
Looks! I think looks wont play in next year's elections. For those who doubt me, ask Kalonzo. Kidero maybe an ideal person for that position, but in kenya, we all know that elections cannot be won on ''Ideals' alone. We do not always choose the best people. In most cases, we choose our leaders based on the prevailing euphoric sentiments. Thats why thugs are in parliament. Thats why even fluidic brains like Sonko have better chances of winning the governorship than Kidero. Kidero must first master the art of being a politician. He has to understand both the electorate and his opponents. He has to understand simple the arithmetic of vote winning In a city where 75% of the people reside in slum areas with to steady jobs, Kidero may not be 'one of their own'. All they will remember is that for every spoon of sugar they put in their tea, a few ndururu's went to Kidero's pocket. At no time did Kidero ever reduce the price of sugar. Instead he worked tirelessly to impress his fat employers and shareholders by cutting production costs and increasing the price of sugar so that they can get more dividends. I am sure if he is elected, he will work harder to impress his seniors ( whoever who will be in power). Therefore his super good CV only looks superb to the rich. Its horrible to slum dwellers. Kidero has an uphill task of convincing these people that he look at their welfare. Otherwise, they will see him as another fat cat who is looking for a career change.
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