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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 22:37:20 GMT 3
POLITICIAN WANTS TO KILLS ME, SAYS MAINA
FRIDAY, 25 NOVEMBER 2011 00:03 BY STAR REPORTER
FORMER Mungiki leader Maina Njenga has claimed a politician linked to an ICC suspect wants to kill him. Njenga was yesterday clarifying allegations that he made at a press conference at Karen shopping centre on Wednesday.
Njenga claimed the politician believes that he (Njenga) sent a prosecution witness to the Hague with information about the retaliatory attacks in Naivasha during the 2007-08 post-election violence.
Njenga, now a born-again Christian preacher, said he fears for his life after strangers claiming to be officers from a dreaded anti-Mungiki police unit visited his two homes over the weekend.
He said a vehicle with government registration numbers came to his Karen home last Sunday with five occupants. “They claimed they were officers from the Kwekwe Squad and they wanted to talk to me. Another Nissan van visited my Kitengela residence and told my workers they want Sh2 million to pardon me over crimes I do not know,” Njenga said. “Some people are asking why I sent former Mungiki people to testify for Ocampo. I can truthfully tell you I do not know who is at the ICC as a witness,” Njenga told reporters.
Njenga believes that the politician from Central Kenya became angry with him after he demanded that he honour his pledge to offset an outstanding mortuary bill for Njenga’s wife Virginia Nyakio and her two bodyguards who were murdered in 2008, according to an inside source. The politician had pledged to give Sh7 million and initially paid Sh4 million.
The politician then allegedly told Njenga that he would not pay the Sh3 million balance at the Umash Funeral home. The bodies of Nyakio and her bodyguards remained there for two years because Mungiki said they would not bury them until Njenga was released from prison. The politician refused to pay the balance and told Njenga to find ways of raising the funds, according to the inside source.
Njenga felt threatened because the politician said that he would not see the ICC suspect being locked up at the Hague because the Mungiki had implicated him in crimes against humanity.
The Mungiki informer is now in hiding in Europe. He is expected to give testimony at The Hague against Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta, Civil Service Head Francis Muthaura and former police boss Maj Gen Hussein Ali who are accused of organising the Mungiki attacks in Naivasha and Nakuru. The politician close to the suspect apparently believes that the Ocampo witness was sent to the Hague by Njenga.
Njenga told journalists that suspicious cars have been tailing him since the exchange with the politician. Njenga said an assistant minister called to threaten him with dire consequences over his decision to support former Defence minister Njenga Karume as the spokesman of the Kikuyu community. He said he had recorded a statement with the Karen and Athi River police stations over the threats.
Njenga claimed the strangers had been calling him on his cell phone. “Some people are asking why I sent former Mungiki people to testify for Ocampo,” Njenga said. Police spokesman Erick Kiraithe said police had received complaints by Njenga and they are investigating.
Virginia Nyakio was buried with three others in January 2010 at Njenga's home in Kitengela. Virginia was murdered with her driver and bodyguard in April 2008 in Ngong Forest, possibly by Kwekwe squad.
Njenga Karume and Embakasi MP Ferdinand Waititu were among the ranking individuals who contributed towards the Sh9 million burial expenses for Nyakio.
During the funeral, Njenga told mourners that Starehe MP Bishop Margaret Wanjiru and businessman Irshad Sumra had also contributed to the mortuary fee along with other people who paid through M-Pesa. The receipts were deposited in Njenga's Equity Bank account in Ongata Rongai branch.
Njenga Karume told the Star that he had helped Njenga. "It is normal African practice to help friends and relatives when they are bereaved. My friends and I helped Maina bury his wife and those other people," said Karume.
A group calling themselves "Nakuru businessmen" gave Sh900,000 while Mungiki coordinators from across Kenya gave 627,000. Lawyer Paul Muite confirmed donating Sh20,000. "My friends and I went to support Njenga in every way we could including financially. He needed money and other forms of help," Waititu told the Star by telephone.
Bishop Wanjiru of Jesus is Alive Ministries yesterday did not confirm or deny that she contributed Sh700,000 towards the funeral as recorded on the list. "That is a lot of money. Are you asking if I contributed that personally?" said Wanjiru without elaborating.
www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/50962-maina-njenga-claims-his-life-is-threatened-by-central-politician
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Post by nereah on Nov 26, 2011 18:39:16 GMT 3
guess what ?
criminal investigations officers from langata who had gone to maina njenga's karen residence in nairobi to record statement from him over alleged threat on his life from a central kenyan politician received orders from above not to.
this is the news that nairobi woke up to and which you should be reading a few hours from now from the star link.
reporter joseph kariuki informs us thus:
after recording two statements,cid officer stephen njagi recieved a call from the langata dcio who told him to stop taking the statements. his(njenga's) lawyer,paul muite said that he hasd never seen njenga so scared.
excerpt from the weekend star, no.1331,saturday/sunday nov26-27,2011.
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Post by okolowaka on Nov 27, 2011 3:27:02 GMT 3
Maina Njenga should be scared all right...he should be scared stiff of what awaits him in the after life for all the murders and countless crimes that he and his crooks committed...he should be scared stiff knowing that "they" are coming for him...
Maina Njenga and his gang were paid criminals for the politician from central "who is linked to an ICC suspect" and he failed to keep his side of the bargain...he probably talked too much and his paymasters are not happy... Too late Mr Njenga, there is no honor among thugs... they are known to turn their guns on each other a few minutes after a "successful" robbery...you deserve everything you will get here and in the afterlife...no sympathy from me.
Mr Njenga instead of running scared should re-activate his gang to "protect" his scared behind, or to counter the threat and neutralize the threat...or do an Osama and start releasing videos and audios to incriminate everyone he and his gang "worked" with (...make copies to Hague, etc).
At least this way he will be sure he will not go down alone... One thing I am sure of though, I will be glad if indeed the threats are true and both Mr. Njenga and the politician from central linked to the ICC both feel the exact pain and sorrow that they caused countless Kenyans to feel...payback time!
The hounds are turning on each other Jukwaa...
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Post by einstein on Nov 28, 2011 16:01:37 GMT 3
guess what ? criminal investigations officers from langata who had gone to maina njenga's karen residence in nairobi to record statement from him over alleged threat on his life from a central kenyan politician received orders from above not to. this is the news that nairobi woke up to and which you should be reading a few hours from now from the star link. reporter joseph kariuki informs us thus: after recording two statements,cid officer stephen njagi recieved a call from the langata dcio who told him to stop taking the statements. his(njenga's) lawyer, paul muite said that he hasd never seen njenga so scared. excerpt from the weekend star, no.1331,saturday/sunday nov26-27,2011. Dada Nereah,Here is the full story. CID stopped from taking Mungiki boss statement Saturday, 26 November 2011 00:04 BY JOSEPH KARIUKI CID officers were yesterday told not to take a statement from former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga over his claims that a Central Kenya politician wants to kill him. CID officers from Langata yesterday went to Njenga's residence in Karen to record a statement from him and six other witness on the alleged threats against his life. After recording two statements, CID officer Stephen Njagi received a call from the Langata DCIO who told him to stop taking the statements. His lawyer Paul Muite said that he had never seen Njenga so scared. He said Njenga was willing to write a statement but had no faith in the government. "These whole threats are as a result of the ICC case," said Muite. Yesterday evening Nairobi police boss Anthony Kibuchi said that Njenga's case had been referred to an assistant commissioner of police to take his statement. Njenga claimed that the Kwekwe squad was being sent to kill him but Kibuchi said had been disbanded it when he took the job. However Muite said his client had not yet been contacted to write the statement by the senior police officer. "Since when have statements been written by senior police officers? Statements are taken by junior officers and they are later taken up to their bosses. That's why we suspect foul play," Muite told the Star yesterday. After the police stopped taking his statement, Njenga then called the press and told them how his troubles started about two weeks ago when two plainclothes policemen came to his Hope International Ministries at Museum Hill and refuse to be checked. "I had recieved requests through an assistant minister to be a witness of one of the ICC suspect but I failed to get a visa to go to the Hague," said Maina. He said an assistant minister, who he refused to name, told him that a presidential candidate was angry with him because he refused to go to the Hague. "The assistant minister is the same one who told me the politician will clear Sh6m mortuary bill for my wife and the two drivers who were killed by police. He had promised to get me a visa to go to the ICC but I failed to get it," said Njenga. Njenga showed the press letters showing he has been sued by Umash Funeral Home for Sh2m. He said the politician only paid sh4m leaving the balance. The bill accumulated after his wife Virginia Nyakio was murdered in 2008 but her body spent two years in the funeral home because Mungiki refused to bury her until Njenga was released from prison. One of Maina's workers at the Amani Sasa foundation, Kevin Karanja alias Mohammed Salim Muturi, recorded a statement yesterday saying a government vehicle with three passengers, two Israelis and a Kenyan, went to Karen on Tuesday and asked for Maina Njenga's home. The white Landrover's registration was recorded in the visitors book as GK A903H. But Nairobi PPO Anthony Kibuchi yesterday told the Star that the number plate was registered to a motorcycle belonging to the Ministry of Education. Muturi said on Monday afternoon a green Toyota salon car registration KAZ 270 C with two passengers came to see Maina. "When asked who he is by the security at the barrier, he said he was the chief but the security became suspicious because the chief of the area in a woman," said Muturi. The two refused to give their identity cards and names and went away after they were refused entry. After church on Sunday Njenga went to his Kitengela home and found two cars parked on each side of the road near a bridge. He found out that the cars belonged to two ladies who wanted to do business with him. Maina claimed that the ladies wanted him to run a hotel they owned in Kitengela but he still does not know their names. They wanted Sh1m in advance. "I wanted to give her a cheque but she refused and said she wanted cash. But I got suspicious when the lady insisted that I had to take the money personally alone," said Maina. He claimed that a police officer later came looking for him. He spend a whole day and night waiting for me. When I did not show up, he told my people that I should not bother buying the hotel because I would not last a month. He said I had many cases both locally and internationally and I would be killed by the end of the month," Njenga claimed. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/51131-cid-stopped-from-taking-mungiki-boss-statement
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Post by einstein on Dec 3, 2011 16:20:48 GMT 3
Former Mungiki leader Njenga's home torchedFormer Mungiki leader Maina Njenga's rural home in Ol Kalou, Nyandarua has been torched and property of unknown value destroyed. Six people, who were in the compound during the early morning incident, were beaten up and restrained by ropes. The traditional hut was burnt to the ground but two other wooden houses were spared. Two police officers from Ngano police post arrived at the scene as investigations begun. In the past week, Mr Njenga claimed his life was in danger. The former sect leader has recorded a statement with the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) www.nation.co.ke/News/Former+Mungiki+leader+Njenga+home+torched/-/1056/1283430/-/hk0iqjz/-/index.html
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Post by einstein on Dec 19, 2011 18:05:32 GMT 3
Waititu grilled over Maina Njenga's threat claims Water assistant minister Ferdinand Waititu. Sources at CID say Waititu was grilled over the weekend over Maina Njenga claims that his life was in danger [Photo: File/Standard] By Cyrus Ombati Water assistant minister Ferdinand Waititu has been questioned by police in the probe into claims by former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga that his life is in danger. Waititu was grilled by detectives at Nairobi Area CID offices for up to six hours before being released. Officers said they summoned him on Saturday after his name featured in the claims made by Njenga last month. "He recorded a statement over the issue we are investigating. We want to know the source of these threats pointed at Njenga and if they are true," said a senior officer informed of the progress of the case. The MP for Embakasi did confirm or deny the grilling but sought to know the source of the information. "Who told you I was grilled?" that was his question before he hang-up. He is said to have recorded a 15-page statement with the officers before he was released on Saturday. In his statement, sources said he mentioned a number of personalities. Njenga had claimed his life was in danger and that suspicious cars had been trailing him on the road and to his Nairobi and Kitengela residences with some of the occupants leaving messages they want to talk to him. He added an assistant minister who he did not mention by name had been calling and threatening him with dire consequences over his decision to support former minister Njenga Karume as a spokesman of the Kikuyus. "The assistant minister has been calling saying a certain presidential candidate is not happy with my decision to attend the ceremony that installed Karume as the leader of Kikuyu and that I may suffer," he said. Njenga appealed to the President to intervene and have the case solved arguing, Kibaki is the only person who can stop those who want to kill him over what he termed as political issues. "I appeal to our president to intervene in this matter of threats made on my life and have the issue solved. Killing me will cause more troubles," he warned. Njenga said his threats out of the succession of President and Central Kenya politics. He also cited the ongoing ICC cases as the cause of his troubles. He said when the violence broke out after the elections he was in jail. "Those tormenting me should know I was in jail when all these hullabaloos started. I do not know who is a prosecution witness there," he said amid shouts from his followers. He recorded statements before his lawyer Paul Muite. Karume was in October installed the leader of Gema at a cultural event in Murang’a, which has elicited diverse reactions. Njenga said the bitterness by some leaders in Central Kenya over the Karume event is out of succession battles. Njenga said other callers to his mobile phone are citing the ongoing ICC cases in which six Kenyans are facing crimes against humanity charges. "Some people are asking why I sent former Mungiki people to testify for Ocampo. I can tell you I do not know who is at the ICC as a witness," he said. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000048579&cid=4&ttl=Waititu%20grilled%20over%20Maina%20Njenga's%20threat%20claims
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 3:12:45 GMT 3
Njenga denies getting money from Uhuru MONDAY, 30 JANUARY 2012 00:05 BY STAR REPORTER Former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga has denied that he had received millions of shilling from Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta as alleged by ICC prosecutor Louis Moreno Ocampo. Njenga described the claims that he had received Sh28 million as "ridiculous" and “mere propaganda.” On Monday, the ICC confirmed charges of crimes against Uhuru. Part of the evidence was his alleged payment to the Mungiki leader in December 2007 and January 2008 while he was still in jail. Njenga told the Star, "That is mere propaganda because the claims cannot be substantiated. What time, day or date did this happen? How was the money delivered to me in prison without the Police Commissioner and the prison authorities knowledge?" Njenga said he was in prison under the constant watch of police including GSU, prison wardens and Flying Squad officers. According to the verdict confirming the charges against Uhuru, the judges had found believable allegations that Njenga had received Sh8 million in December 2007 and a further Sh20 million in January 2008 to organise for the retaliatory attacks by the Mungiki and to organise attacks in Naivasha. The money is said to have been sent to Njenga at the Naivasha prison by three Mungiki emissaries. Uhuru is also said to have given Sh3.3 million to a former Nakuru MP to coordinate the attacks and another Sh3 million was given to Njenga by a PNU politician to campaign for a PNU candidate. Sources close to Njenga said he was aware of who was feeding the ICC with the "malicious reports". Njenga fell out with him after failing to pay Sh100 million in compensation after his two brothers were shot dead by police. The man was third-in-command in the Mungiki hierarchy and is now under protection in Europe together with his wife and four children. The man, who is accompanied by his cousin and his wife, was reportedly in charge of the retaliatory attacks in Naivasha and Nakuru in January 2008. Njenga was accompanied by former Limuru MP George Nyanja who is eyeing the Kiambu governor seat. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/60097-njenga-denies-receiving-money-from-uhuru
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Post by akinyi2005 on Apr 23, 2012 6:00:58 GMT 3
the threat and intimidation of maina njenga continues. this and other incidents are a reminder that mungiki the man does indeed have many followers, a fact that must scare the central elite.
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Post by topnotch on Apr 24, 2012 12:08:14 GMT 3
Jukwaa,
How do I upload a photo from my hard-drive?
I have one of Thuo with Uhuru at Hague, and the same Thuo when he went to assassinate Maina Njenga.
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Post by phil on Apr 24, 2012 12:41:15 GMT 3
Jukwaa, How do I upload a photo from my hard-drive? I have one of Thuo with Uhuru at Hague, and the same Thuo when he went to assassinate Maina Njenga. Easy does it topnotch. You cannot upload but you can link image like this. Uhuru, once again, caught with pants down. You can see another of Uhuru's lapdogs Denis Ole Itumbi standing next to his boss. It seems to me Maina Njenga is a dead man walking. We remember with regret the cold blooded murder of Njuguna Gitau Njuguna - a close associate of Maina Njenga - who was gunned down along the busy Luthuli Avenue in 2009 in broad daylight by people believed to be policemen. Njunguna had spent the better part of two years running from people he claimed had been sent to kill him. Maina Njenga is now forced to move around in a group of 50 people everywhere he goes to avoid being killed in the same style Njunguna Gitau was murdered. Which brings us to the question, why are licenced gun holders trailing Maina Njenga and at the same time shadowing Uhuru? Mind you, nobody ever questioned police about if Thuo was a licenced gun holder or not, but they were very quick to exonorate him even before doing any investigations. And in anycase, the same Thuo has confessed infront of a church congregation that there is a mission to kill Maina Njenga. Maina is at this moment recording a statement with Kasarani police on this attempted assassination.
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Post by topnotch on Apr 24, 2012 12:50:07 GMT 3
Jukwaa, How do I upload a photo from my hard-drive? I have one of Thuo with Uhuru at Hague, and the same Thuo when he went to assassinate Maina Njenga. Easy does it topnotch. You cannot upload but you can link image like this. Uhuru, once again, caught with pants down. You can see another of Uhuru's lapdogs Denis Ole Itumbi standing next to his boss. It seems to me Maina Njenga is a dead man walking. We remember with regret the cold blooded murder of Njuguna Gitau Njuguna - a close associate of Maina Njenga - who was gunned down along the busy Luthuli Avenue in 2009 in broad daylight by people believed to be policemen. Njunguna had spent the better part of two years running from people he claimed had been sent to kill him. Maina Njenga is now forced to move around in a group of 50 people everywhere he goes to avoid being killed in the same style Njunguna Gitau was murdered. Which brings us to the question, why are licenced gun holders trailing Maina Njenga and at the same time shadowing Uhuru? Mind you, nobody ever questioned police about if Thuo was a licenced gun holder or not, but they were very quick to exonorate him even before doing any investigations. And in anycase, the same Thuo has confessed infront of a church congregation that there is a mission to kill Maina Njenga. Maina is at this moment recording a statement with Kasarani police on this attempted assassination. Thanks Phil. Thats the photo worth a million words. Having Uhuru, Itumbi, Koinange and the Assassin together is scary. Mmmh.. And Phil, Uhuru's spokesman yesterday deny any knowledge of this man Thuo. In fact, he maintained that Uhuru himself has never met Thuo, and does not even recognize that ka-face. Now comes this ;D Surely, does this not give credence to the Raila and Imanyara claims? Where are Kamalet and Mwalimumkuuu
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Post by phil on Apr 24, 2012 13:40:10 GMT 3
FORMER MUNGIKI leader Maina Njenga and five others set to face charges of robbery with violence and malicious damage to property over church gun drama.
This is capital offence, no bail, death penalty.
Uhuru wins with Njenga out of the way.
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Post by emali on Apr 24, 2012 14:56:02 GMT 3
I always wondered why they spared him during the crackdown on Mungiki...he must have looked 'useful' for future escapades...now it seems he just wont tow the line and has become a liability to Uhuru and Co...
Jail is where he belongs...their was no reform in him he had only taken a sabatical and would soon resort to his old tactics...Mungiki cannot be controlled...hope he spills the beans on Uhuru et al regarding PEV because at this rate i Doubt he will live to see the elections...live by the gun and die by the gun...
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Post by merlin on Apr 24, 2012 15:04:34 GMT 3
Uhuru spoiling his chances for President,
I wrote before about the big change which happened to Kenya during the voting for the Constitution. However this change is an awakening process and not everyone is ready for it. There are still many yesteryears citizens who are looking for a strong fierce leader to fight for them and to give them protection.
Uhuru Kenyatta is such a leader in extreme. He fights fiercely against anything and everything even when there seems to be no way to victory. He seems to use any means to achieve his goals and people even forgive him when he seems to use means beyond our constitution. Many consider him not only fierce though also unscrupulous and the hand behind our government. He seems to be very powerful and you better are with him than against him.
The trouble for Uhuru is the change that happened to Kenya. Not everyone is charmed by his means to presidency. Loyalties are slowly changing from individuals to Kenya as Nation. The slogan Kenya is bigger than the individual is often heard. This shift in loyalties results in diminished support for Uhuru. To be sure of sufficient support he has lashed out to deserters with threats and intimidation. Maybe this is not factual though the perception goes around in society and perception counts.
The imago of Uhuru is slowly changing from fierce protector to a dangerous ruler. He is still seen as a protector though people are becoming scared of him. Not many people love this guy and this is his dilemma. To keep his support together he has to intimidate though intimidation makes people scared of him. This will be his downfall. It is comparable with keeping a watchdog. People like a fierce dog to keep intruders away though we all know what happened to the dog when the owner becomes scared of his own dog.
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Post by furaha on Apr 24, 2012 15:19:15 GMT 3
I always wondered why they spared him during the crackdown on Mungiki...he must have looked 'useful' for future escapades...now it seems he just wont tow the line and has become a liability to Uhuru and Co... Jail is where he belongs...their was no reform in him he had only taken a sabatical and would soon resort to his old tactics...Mungiki cannot be controlled...hope he spills the beans on Uhuru et al regarding PEV because at this rate i Doubt he will live to see the elections...live by the gun and die by the gun... So it would be fine with you if he had been bumped off earlier or if this happens any time soon? That betrays a cynical perspective which condones the state of lawlessness Kenya finds itself in. And condoning that awful state can only make matters worse.. I certainly am no fan of Njenga and I would like to see all those who were responsible for the ruthless killings by the Mungiki brought to justice. And there is little doubt in my mind that this includes senior politicians who used the Mungiki as an instrument in their treacherous games. But there may be a hitch in relation to the murder you expect. What does Njenga know about these senior politicians? And how can they be sure that his secrets will die with him? It is quite likely that Njenga has hedged his bets and has given instructions that in case he dies alln these dirty secrets will be exposed for all to see. So perhaps the politicians are better off with Njenga alive? Would they rather suffer him than have their secrets in the public domain? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by destiny on Apr 24, 2012 16:12:04 GMT 3
Njenga is always surrounded by dozens of hired goons day and night ostensibly to offer himself protection. But when you can't live your life freely and have to watch out for enemy fire every second, then it means you don't have freedom in your life. To live in constant fear because you have stepped on many people's toes is just like living in a small jail of your own making. The good "Bishop" has been implicated in many criminal activities and doesn't seem to have changed an inch, that's why he seems to be on the run.
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Post by emali on Apr 24, 2012 16:43:25 GMT 3
I always wondered why they spared him during the crackdown on Mungiki...he must have looked 'useful' for future escapades...now it seems he just wont tow the line and has become a liability to Uhuru and Co... Jail is where he belongs...their was no reform in him he had only taken a sabatical and would soon resort to his old tactics...Mungiki cannot be controlled...hope he spills the beans on Uhuru et al regarding PEV because at this rate i Doubt he will live to see the elections...live by the gun and die by the gun... So it would be fine with you if he had been bumped off earlier or if this happens any time soon? That betrays a cynical perspective which condones the state of lawlessness Kenya finds itself in. And condoning that awful state can only make matters worse.. I certainly am no fan of Njenga and I would like to see all those who were responsible for the ruthless killings by the Mungiki brought to justice. And there is little doubt in my mind that this includes senior politicians who used the Mungiki as an instrument in their treacherous games. But there may be a hitch in relation to the murder you expect. What does Njenga know about these senior politicians? And how can they be sure that his secrets will die with him? It is quite likely that Njenga has hedged his bets and has given instructions that in case he dies alln these dirty secrets will be exposed for all to see. So perhaps the politicians are better off with Njenga alive? Would they rather suffer him than have their secrets in the public domain? Your guess is as good as mine. @ Furaha I will ask you a hypothetical question...suppose you enter into a business arrangement with Maina Njenga and he on a whim decides not to satisfy his end of the bargain? What next? If you love your life you call it a day if you continue on your pursuit for justice you will have a closed casket funeral after his boys have finished getting medieval on you... The justice you ask for is noble but these Mungiki folks live by a different creed they do not respect our courts and this was even before the extra-judicial killings subjected on them. Killing to them is just another daily chore...what they did during PEV in Naivasha (paid), most Nairobi slums (pro bono) and prior to PEV in Central province/Eastland’s/Nairobi Slums (Job description) was despicable. As we have seen after the fact politicians were right in the middle of what they were doing and even abetted them. Until our leaders are responsible enough and actually believe and abide by the law they have sworn to protect... I say kill them (Mungiki) and kill em all! Because our politics is corrupt and our police force is inept sometimes even when not compromised by bribes. Have you ever been to a criminal court case in Kenya? Sometimes even when the evidence is clear cut a hardened criminal walks because the arresting officer was not prepared and folded like a cheap suit under cross-examination...but you know what? the cops know this (that their colleagues are inept)and rarely does that suspect live for long... No one wants to say this but the police/judiciary doesn’t have the manpower (ethical and trained),the money and the resources to ensure law and order for its citizens and it’s getting worse...criminals on remand in Kamiti will comfortably threaten you and get out on a technicality to make good their threats and it happens on a daily basis...go to Kibera,Mukuru kwa Njenga e.t.c. and hear tales that would shock you to the core...complete breakdown of law and order...perfect seeds for Mungiki’s growth... I would love to believe in the rule of law but I know better...doesn’t mean I will break the law either just that I have seen enough evidence to make me cynical whenever it is mentioned in certain circles...as for you questions...I think Njenga knows enough to make him fear for his life everything else is speculation as you have rightly pointed out but he is no saint either and most likely has enough blood on his hands, I doubt he ever added value to anyone’s life...
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Post by furaha on Apr 24, 2012 17:08:42 GMT 3
Until our leaders are responsible enough and actually believe and abide by the law they have sworn to protect... I say kill them (Mungiki) and kill em all! Because our politics is corrupt and our police force is inept sometimes even when not compromised by bribes. Have you ever been to a criminal court case in Kenya? Sometimes even when the evidence is clear cut a hardened criminal walks because the arresting officer was not prepared and folded like a cheap suit under cross-examination...but you know what? the cops know this (that their colleagues are inept)and rarely does that suspect live for long... Emali, So who precisely are you licensing to kill all these people.? And who will be the judge of whether or not they are guilty? Do you have any idea how many innocent people may already have died because of the kind of justice you advocate? Or is that acceptable collateral damage? And yes I have attended criminal court cases in Kenya. I know where the multi-facetted problems lie. I think I understand where you are coming from but, alas, your solution can only lead to a further descent into anarchy and hell. Maybe, if we are lucky, it will turn into a 'Kenyan spring' but I would not put my money on that. furaha
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Post by phil on Apr 25, 2012 9:49:20 GMT 3
Thanks to reforms in the judiciary.
News just in , Ex Mungiki Leader Maina Njenga and four others are released on a Sh200,000 cash bail each as DPP Keraiko Tobiko says police rushed case and calls for file for scrutiny.
Phew!
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 25, 2012 19:53:36 GMT 3
Thanks to reforms in the judiciary. News just in , Ex Mungiki Leader Maina Njenga and four others are released on a Sh200,000 cash bail each as DPP Keraiko Tobiko says police rushed case and calls for file for scrutiny. Phew! Mungiki should never be allowed back into our villages.
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Post by emali on Apr 25, 2012 20:13:26 GMT 3
Until our leaders are responsible enough and actually believe and abide by the law they have sworn to protect... I say kill them (Mungiki) and kill em all! Because our politics is corrupt and our police force is inept sometimes even when not compromised by bribes. Have you ever been to a criminal court case in Kenya? Sometimes even when the evidence is clear cut a hardened criminal walks because the arresting officer was not prepared and folded like a cheap suit under cross-examination...but you know what? the cops know this (that their colleagues are inept)and rarely does that suspect live for long... Emali, So who precisely are you licensing to kill all these people.? And who will be the judge of whether or not they are guilty? Do you have any idea how many innocent people may already have died because of the kind of justice you advocate? Or is that acceptable collateral damage? And yes I have attended criminal court cases in Kenya. I know where the multi-facetted problems lie. I think I understand where you are coming from but, alas, your solution can only lead to a further descent into anarchy and hell. Maybe, if we are lucky, it will turn into a 'Kenyan spring' but I would not put my money on that. furaha Tough questions...answers to your questions... 1.The Police 2.The Police 3.I don't know but I sincerely feel for their families 4.Acceptable Collateral damage is an oxymoron Chelegat Mutai said this "I think our country has three forms of government – one that meets in secret, plots in secret and implements things in secret, another government where leaders meet to flatter each other and the government where people work"Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5544#ixzz1t4ZmwpjT
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Post by phil on May 9, 2012 16:02:30 GMT 3
New developments on the Maina Njenga case.
The criminal case involving former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga and four others will proceed to full hearing. Nairobi principal magistrate Elijah Obaga ordered the case to proceed to full hearing, When the case came up for mention. The prosecution side did not object to the move saying that investigations into the case are complete. Senior counsel Paul Muite representing the accused supported the move.The case had earlier been stopped after the director of public prosecution said he had not been consulted by the police.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 9, 2012 16:21:11 GMT 3
New developments on the Maina Njenga case. The criminal case involving former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga and four others will proceed to full hearing. Nairobi principal magistrate Elijah Obaga ordered the case to proceed to full hearing, When the case came up for mention. The prosecution side did not object to the move saying that investigations into the case are complete. Senior counsel Paul Muite representing the accused supported the move.The case had earlier been stopped after the director of public prosecution said he had not been consulted by the police. Maina Njenga may not be a saint but this rushed charge for robbery with violence when there is no evidence Maina Njenga was involved in any way is going to flop in court. It would appear to me that is the reason Tobiko wanted to save the image of government prosecutors looking like idiots in court with charges that make no sense. But for the life of me I missed the picture below of Uhuru with Thuo and Itumbi right at The Hague. And this is the guy who walked into Maina's church with a loaded gun eti to warn him of some assassination plot. Can't these thing be done with a little bit of finese. It is this kind of crudeness that got Uhuru messed up with the ICC. Then he carries the same thugs with him to The Hague and now send them around with loaded guns to work new killing plots. This is really chilling. Easy does it topnotch. You cannot upload but you can link image like this. Uhuru, once again, caught with pants down. You can see another of Uhuru's lapdogs Denis Ole Itumbi standing next to his boss. It seems to me Maina Njenga is a dead man walking. We remember with regret the cold blooded murder of Njuguna Gitau Njuguna - a close associate of Maina Njenga - who was gunned down along the busy Luthuli Avenue in 2009 in broad daylight by people believed to be policemen. Njunguna had spent the better part of two years running from people he claimed had been sent to kill him. Maina Njenga is now forced to move around in a group of 50 people everywhere he goes to avoid being killed in the same style Njunguna Gitau was murdered. Which brings us to the question, why are licenced gun holders trailing Maina Njenga and at the same time shadowing Uhuru? Mind you, nobody ever questioned police about if Thuo was a licenced gun holder or not, but they were very quick to exonorate him even before doing any investigations. And in anycase, the same Thuo has confessed infront of a church congregation that there is a mission to kill Maina Njenga. Maina is at this moment recording a statement with Kasarani police on this attempted assassination. Thanks Phil. Thats the photo worth a million words. Having Uhuru, Itumbi, Koinange and the Assassin together is scary. Mmmh.. And Phil, Uhuru's spokesman yesterday deny any knowledge of this man Thuo. In fact, he maintained that Uhuru himself has never met Thuo, and does not even recognize that ka-face. Now comes this ;D Surely, does this not give credence to the Raila and Imanyara claims? Where are Kamalet and Mwalimumkuuu
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Post by job on May 10, 2012 5:08:02 GMT 3
New developments on the Maina Njenga case. The criminal case involving former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga and four others will proceed to full hearing. Nairobi principal magistrate Elijah Obaga ordered the case to proceed to full hearing, When the case came up for mention. The prosecution side did not object to the move saying that investigations into the case are complete. Senior counsel Paul Muite representing the accused supported the move.The case had earlier been stopped after the director of public prosecution said he had not been consulted by the police. Maina Njenga may not be a saint but this rushed charge for robbery with violence when there is no evidence Maina Njenga was involved in any way is going to flop in court. It would appear to me that is the reason Tobiko wanted to save the image of government prosecutors looking like idiots in court with charges that make no sense. But for the life of me I missed the picture below of Uhuru with Thuo and Itumbi right at The Hague. And this is the guy who walked into Maina's church with a loaded gun eti to warn him of some assassination plot. Can't these thing be done with a little bit of finese. It is this kind of crudeness that got Uhuru messed up with the ICC. Then he carries the same thugs with him to The Hague and now send them around with loaded guns to work new killing plots. This is really chilling. Thanks Phil. Thats the photo worth a million words. Having Uhuru, Itumbi, Koinange and the Assassin together is scary. Mmmh.. And Phil, Uhuru's spokesman yesterday deny any knowledge of this man Thuo. In fact, he maintained that Uhuru himself has never met Thuo, and does not even recognize that ka-face. Now comes this ;D Surely, does this not give credence to the Raila and Imanyara claims? Where are Kamalet and Mwalimumkuuu [/quote] Uhuru sues the Star over storyThe BOSS is not happy at this coverage & picture (above) by the Star! www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/74854-uhuru-sues-the-star-over-hague-photograph
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Post by merlin on May 10, 2012 14:47:31 GMT 3
The same story again though more explicit Thuo charged with robbery in 2005UHURU tries to Censor Thuo photo BY STAR REPORTER"THE man photographed with Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta at the Hague was sued and acquitted for robbery with violence in 2005. Uhuru has gone to the constitutional court to urgently block any further publication of stories or photographs about Joseph Njoroge Thoo, ex-Mungiki leader Maina Njenga and himself. The case will be heard at 9am on Monday morning. Uhuru's lawyer argues that any publication by the Star would constitute hate speech and violate Uhuru's right to a good reputation. "This is a blatant attempt at censorship. The facts are not disputed. Thuo was in the Hague beside Uhuru and Thuo was involved in a fracas with Maina Njenga. If the Deputy Prime Minister has a problem with the story, let him sue the Star for libel instead of wasting the time of the constitutional court," said Catherine Gicheru, Editor of the Star last night. The offending Star story on April 24 was headlined 'Uhuru denies link to Njenga gunman'. Maina Njenga had claimed on Sunday April 22 at his church that Thuo had been sent to assassinate him. Alongside the story, the Star ran a photo of Uhuru in the Hague in September with Thuo apparently standing behind him, and a photo of Thuo at the church. The photos were headlined ‘Is this the same man?' Uhuru's Director of Communications Munyori Buku denied any link between Thuo and Uhuru. '"There is no way the DPM could have known all the people who were at The Hague. Many people travelled on their own and they were paying for themselves," said Buku at the time. "During a press conference, anyone can stand behind the person making the address. You don't expect the person addressing the press to know all the people standing behind him," said Buku in reference to the photo of Uhuru at The Hague with Thuo. On October 1, 2011 the Nation also published a photo of Uhuru laughing with Thuo at the Hague. The Nation photo caption specifically identified Thuo. The Nation and Star photos were sent to media houses from The Hague by Lawrence Maingi, Uhuru's official press photographer. Internal Security minister George Saitoti is expected in Par¬liament today to answer a question by Gwassi MP John Mbadi over the identity of Thuo. On April 22, Thuo was beaten up at the Hope International Ministry church after Njenga's supporters found a gun in his car while he was meeting the ex-Mungiki leader. Four CID officers who came to investigate were also roughed up by Njenga’s youth. Mbadi has demanded to know if Thuo is a licensed gun holder, when he was issued with a firearm and under what circumstances. Saitoti is also expected to provide details of the men who accompanied Thuo to Njenga's church and clarify whether they are licensed gun holders. The businessman behind the Thuo Investment Company was questioned last year by police over the murder of former Kiarnbu County chairman Boniface Njenga Mweru who was shot dead by armed men on June 1, 2011 in Githiga. Mweru had been a business partner in the Thuo Investment Company until eight months earlier. Central Province AP boss Joseph Keitany said thugs in a Silver Prado Land Cruiser belonging to Thuo Investments killed Mweru after he was stopped by a girl. When Njenga stopped, he was shot three times in the head at point blank range by a Ceska pistol. Police in Kiambu are yet to prosecute anyone in connection with the murder. According to police file CR 216/148/2011, Thuo was questioned on June 3 by CID Kiambu over the murder of Mweru. Thuo told police that he was in his office in Thika when Mweru was killed. Another robbery with violence case against Thuo was terminated on October 24, 2007 by then Nairobi Principal Magistrate Lilian Mutende who ruled that the prosecution had failed to prove their case. The magistrate said police had violated Thuo's constitutional rights by holding him for six months at Kamiti prison before pressing charges. Thuo was charged with violently robbing Raman Patel of Sh 100,000 and impersonating a police officer on October 1, 2005. On April 24, 2012 the Star received a threatening email from josephthuonjoroge@gmail.com, the same day it published the photos of Thuo in The Hague and at Hope International Church. The email threatened the Star's Thika correspondent James 'Wainaina who wrote a story last June about Mweru's murder. "If you don't know me by now, I kill customers, employees and rats like James Wainaina," the email stated. Thuo denied at the time that he had sent the email. "I do not know anything about the email. Whoever has done that could have stolen my identity or wants you people to believe it is me. That is someone who is not a right thinking member of society. That is someone who is an extortionist," Thuo told the Star. On May 5 the Star filed a complaint with Kilimani Police station after Thuo threatened an editor. Thuo visited the Star offices on Waiyaki Way on May 2 and threatened the Regional News Editor Joseph Olweny. He angrily said he had lost a Sh96 million business deal because the Star had published photos of him in The Hague and at Njenga's church. He told the editor that he could have the offices bombed or wrecked by 200 goons, and that he could make him disappear by putting him in a drum of acid. On May 7 he phoned the Star and struck a more conciliatory tone. Thuo said that he had travelled to The Hague as a friend of Uhuru to provide moral support. He confirmed he was the man in the Star photo with Uhuru, blogger Dennis Itumbi and Jeff Koinange of K24. He claimed he could delink Uhuru from Mungiki because he understood the workings of the group and that he used to provide legal advice to Maina Njenga. On April 25, a PNU minister close to Uhuru called Star Political Editor Paul Ilado and requested that the pictures of Thuo and Uhuru in The Hague should not be published again. "The Star agreed to honour the request. But Uhuru has declared war by trying to censor us through the constitutional court. So now let the photos speak for themselves," said Star Editor Catherine Gicheru last night. Read The Star: www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/74977--man-photographed-with-uhuru-in-hague-was-charged-with-robbery-with-violence
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