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Post by miguna on May 7, 2007 1:46:51 GMT 3
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 7, 2007 2:16:02 GMT 3
This unveiling of R's vision was trully revolutionary in terms of content, style and presentation. It captured many peoples minds and its part of the body of message R needs to propagate to make an impression on Kenyans and capture their hearts as well.
Its my belief that being the voracious reader he is R has gone through "The Art of War" by Gen Sun, a famous chinese general. A core message in this book is the pre-emption doctrine achieved by peaceful means. It seem like R is on his way towards achieving his goal by seducing his potential opponents. The sole likely holdout KM will be rendered inconsequential.
KMs huge misplaced ego will be trumped and when R gets the nomination, the barrel of the electoral guns will be trained right between the eyes of the baboon
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 7, 2007 2:18:55 GMT 3
Miguna,
It would be nice to have a web archive of the speech.
See wether you can organize that.
Thanks
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Post by kamalet on May 7, 2007 9:06:49 GMT 3
Raila definitely did have a vision and he rumbled on pretty well telling us 'WHAT' his government would for us. You can say that a lot of what he had to say was pretty much what Kibaki, Kalonzo, and Balala and Julia. They all want a lot for Kenya.
What the ODM luminaries have constantly failed to do is tell Kenyans 'HOW' they actually will do all the things they promise us!
I was particularly heartened to hear Kenyans tear into the populist tax proposals put up by Kalonzo last week in his attempt at stealing the thunder from Raila!
Kenyans must be wary of all sorts of lofty promises being made by politicians!
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Post by adongo12345 on May 7, 2007 17:58:03 GMT 3
Kamale
I haven't dissected most parts, but a few things sets Raila a part here specifically from Kibaki. On the 'How" part I thought his vision on fighting Tribalism was pretty clear and in very sharp contrast to Kibaki's own failure in that department.
1. Raila proposed to dismantle the informal power structures that you and me know are the real forces running the country. This has been the case since independence. Kenyatta had his cabal of cronies and they didn't even hide the fact that they were running the show. We all know it was more a stroke of luck they didn't get the chance to take over when Kenyatta died in Mombasa in 1978. This is the cabal that also helped Mzee to eliminate people they thought were dangerous to them. Gama Pinto 1965, TJ in 1969 and JM in 1975. It was refreshing to hear Raila put a finger on where the problem is. Moi had his networks and Kibaki has brought it to a new level. Raila has promised to end it. We will hold him accountable to that. He invited Kenyans to do just that.
2. Raila proposed to detribalize the OP and State House which he called "dens of tribalism". He was spot on. All our problems usually start with those two offices. Kibaki was supposed to change all that. He has made it worse. Raila is saying it won't happen under his government and once again he invited Kenyans to hold him accountable on that.
If he was to just do those two things and create an environment where the affairs of the state and the activities of the government are run professionally with one and only one purpose - serving the interests of the public good, it would change the country forever.
Tribalized control of our resources coupled with nepotism and cronysm is a cancer we have to get rid off from our body politic. We don't need any budget for it, we don't need donors and funders, all we need is the political will. Why has it been the hardest thing to do? Raila made concerete proposals to handle this problem that continues to cripple our nationhood. He is the first person to propose such clear plans to fight tribalism. He even talked about ministers not using their ministries to hire only the people from their tribes and supporters. You know how rampant that is.
On the economy I like the emphasis on infrastructure. In fact he lays it out pretty good. The railway system. The collapse of our rail transport system is one of the tragedies of the Moi era. It used to be the pride of the nation. Well the only choice now is to work with the private sector to rebuild it. Raila is proposing that.
The Mombasa port proposal is doable and he extended it to Lamu and an inland port in Kisumu which could boost our trade links with Uganda and Southern Sudan. These things can be done.
The IT sector where I think the Kibaki people have done a commendable job, Raila is clear on the importance of that as well.
Plus word on the ground is that Raila had a very good layout for reviving the infrastructure when he was in the ministry of roads and public works. It is been said most of the stuff going around was in his master plan.
I think we are going to see a very focused attention on building the infrastructure of the nation, without which we have a lot of problems. I support him on that.
Then Raila proposed to increase the CDF to 10% from 2.5%. That is a solid and very doable proposal. The next phase would be on the issue of streamlining CDF management. That can be done and this money which is the talk everywhere increased to 10% of the national budget could change the lives of very many Kenyans at the local level. Nobody has made any such promise.
I intend to dissect the statement some time soon, but just those concrete proposals tells me we are dealing with someone who wants to address the "how" to get where we want rather than just talking about what we want. We all want to end tribalism. Raila told us how he intends to tackle it. That is refreshing.
Adongo
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Post by kamalet on May 8, 2007 8:44:44 GMT 3
Adongo,
I think you really should dissect the "vision".
Raila will be lying to Kenyans that he will de-tribalise OP and State House as he has continuously failed to shed the Luo Brigade that follows him wherever he goes. And here I am not talking about those Kibera idlers who shout for rent, I am talking about educated people! That is why you will find the Migunas of this world wanting to be MPs of constituencies they have only visited once in 10 years - but sincerely hope that organising fund raising meetings for Raila in Canada and the US is will ensure that Raila tells the respective constituents that so and so is TOSAH!!.
In fact there is nothing wrong with him surrounding himself with his kinsmen in key government ministries if these are people he believes and trust will deliver his vision, and actually do so! Kenyans will not care whether it is Obudho or Otieno running the treasury if the economy is growing neither will they care if it is Adongo in charge of security if they can go about their business without a fear.
Kenyans must be weaned from this mentality that Adongo serving in a Raila government is a result of tribalism, and must judge Adongo by his competence rather than his mother tongue. That is why I think the Raila vision of 'detribalisation' of the country through diversification of appointments will not result in Kenya going forward apart from it being a lie of course!!!!
If he was to just do those two things and create an environment where the affairs of the state and the activities of the government are run professionally with one and only one purpose - serving the interests of the public good, it would change the country forever. - Adongo
That environment Adongo need not be one by Kikuyus or Luos to succeed. It must be by Kenyans - wherever they come from! So if Raila actually finds out that the best people to run his treasury must all be Kikuyus or Luos, that is what he must do. Appointing people just because they belong to a particular tribe under the guise of diversity has been Kenya's biggest problem.
Unfortunately, the other bits about Mombasa port etc are only a "WHAT" he wants to do. He MUST explain to Kenyans how he intends to fund that work of re-doing the ports as well as the infrastructure. And this must not be on the basis of the deal he had negotiated for Dominion which Mwiraria rejected as being anti-Kenya, i.e. he must not give up Kenya's sovereignity.
What Kenyans want to hear is not how girls get free sanitary pads and civil servants paying less taxes. It is how intends to rid Kenya of foreign aid dependency and at the same time not tax Kenyans to improve their livelihood. Many things here simply refuse to add up, and it must be populism he wants to drive!
Finally, he still has to explain how he intends to get rid of the corrupt people surrounding him including the likes of "his sister" Sally Kosgei and others.
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Post by aeichener on May 8, 2007 9:54:59 GMT 3
Kamalet: I feel that Peter Ndiangui summed it up excellently in a perceptive short comment in another forum (KenyaImagine), under the title "Nothing New":
"I haven't seen Raila present anything new from what might have been purportedly done by the Narc regime. I haven't seen him present a bill that is aimed as strengthening the KACC by making the appointment and firing of its directors more independent of the presidency. Neither have I seen Raila propose an independent way of appointing judges from how it is done today. Infact in his 'vision' for the country he still proposes to be the chief appointing authority of these institutional heads including the Prime Minister. Nothing different from what the Wako draft had proposed."
Fight against corruption, judicial reform and police reform are presently one of the important parts of instituitional strengthening that Kenya needs. What ideas, rather what concrete plans has Raila presented here?
Alexander
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Post by adongo12345 on May 8, 2007 16:45:40 GMT 3
Kamalet: I feel that Peter Ndiangui summed it up excellently in a perceptive short comment in another forum (KenyaImagine), under the title "Nothing New": "I haven't seen Raila present anything new from what might have been purportedly done by the Narc regime. I haven't seen him present a bill that is aimed as strengthening the KACC by making the appointment and firing of its directors more independent of the presidency. Neither have I seen Raila propose an independent way of appointing judges from how it is done today. Infact in his 'vision' for the country he still proposes to be the chief appointing authority of these institutional heads including the Prime Minister. Nothing different from what the Wako draft had proposed." Fight against corruption, judicial reform and police reform are presently one of the important parts of instituitional strengthening that Kenya needs. What ideas, rather what concrete plans has Raila presented here? Alexander To suggest that what Raila proposed in his vision speech "is nothing different the Wako draft" is to miss the point entirely, which is rather sad because it is so well laid out and is all over the media. The key pillar of Raila's vision, at least the one he publicly presented to Kenyans, is to facilitate the enactment of a new constitution based on the Bomas Draft with amendments to address areas of contention. That is the furthest one can go from the Wako Draft. A little honesty could be valuable in assessing and criticizing what Raila has pledged to do if he is elected the president of Kenya. Alex, may be you want to invite your friend, Peter Ndiangui to check this piece from the Nation. It might be helpful. www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=97573Adongo. I forgot this part. The idea that presidential candidates should be presenting "bills" about appointments to KACC is quite bizzare. We want the KACC to be independent from the executive. A president can suggest ideas to M.P's and the cabinet if s/he thinks those ideas would strengthen the KACC, but I for one would be alarmed if our presidents want to structure the KACC all by themselves. At any rate I don't think presidents present bills to parliament. Instead they make suggestions to their cabinet. The president controls what happens at the OP where there is a lot of corruption. If they want to deal with it there, that is there call. The president controls what happens at State House, which is one of the centres of corruption. If they want to deal with it there, that is their call. I think Raila made those calls and like I said these are initiatives foe which we do not need money to implement like we need Kshs 10 billion every year to run KACC etc. Adongo |
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Post by miguna on May 8, 2007 17:00:53 GMT 3
That is why you will find the Migunas of this world wanting to be MPs of constituencies they have only visited once in 10 years - but sincerely hope that organising fund raising meetings for Raila in Canada and the US is will ensure that Raila tells the respective constituents that so and so is TOSAH!!. Kamau, I thought you believed in fairness and cared about the truth. If you still do, please correct yourself. Since you happen to work for Kibaki's security forces, you surely must know that I have been having extended tours of Kenya (and Nyando) at least three times each year for the past ten years!Surely you must know. Your villagefolk know me better than they know Kibaki. They have seen me mingling with wananchi in Banana Hill, Thogoto, Kaharati, Kahuhia, Mugoiri, Tetu, and in other places than they have seen Kibaki! That, you must know! For if you don't, it means that Kenyans have been paying you for nothing. You and others have a phobia of Luos. You have strained your focus on Raila, and a few of those in his camp that keep you awake at night. That is all right. We intend to keep you awake for a veeery long time! That is a promise. However, other than your tiny and dwindling group of Luo and Raila haters, thankfully the majority of Kenyans have fully embraced each other and are ready for the new beginning.
Nyando people will get to ELECT their MP, the way they want, whether you like it or not. And I, as a true democract, will accept their verdict, one way or the other.
Obviously, you think you are so clever that you would want to preempt my popular election by tagging it "Raila Tosha!" We will take that one, too, if it comes...
Don't be afraid of us, or what we are doing to propel The People's President to the seat that has been usurped from Kenyans for the past 43 years! The victory is coming and it is inevitable!
Please get used to it!
Kenyans are not afraid of freedom. That is why they are embracing Raila in all corners or Kenya...You've not seen anything yet. We urge you to restrict your comments and observatiomns to the Vision of The People's President. [unedited] MM ======================================= |
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Post by aeichener on May 8, 2007 19:04:27 GMT 3
Adongo, you evaded the question. Fight against corruption, judicial reform and police reform are presently one of the important parts of institutional strengthening that Kenya needs. What ideas, rather what concrete plans has Raila presented here? Feel free to comment in a follow-up, if you have an answer. If you now state that corruption can be fight and checked by a "call" from The Messiah, as whom you increasingly misconstrue the sly and weasly populist politician known to mere mortal non-disciples as Raila Odinga, and if you believe that such lofty aim can be achieved without money, you would be clearly be not just out of Kenya, but out of this world, in a bizarre parallel universe. That is really hilarious. In fact, what R.O. has shown so far suggests a rather close bond to corruption, and does not make him a appear a grain better than Kibaki; if anything, worse in this respect. Alexander |
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Post by adongo12345 on May 8, 2007 20:09:32 GMT 3
Kamale
This is what you said.
"In fact there is nothing wrong with him surrounding himself with his kinsmen in key government ministries if these are people he believes and trust will deliver his vision, and actually do so! Kenyans will not care whether it is Obudho or Otieno running the treasury if the economy is growing neither will they care if it is Adongo in charge of security if they can go about their business without a fear."
"Kenyans must be weaned from this mentality that Adongo serving in a Raila government is a result of tribalism, and must judge Adongo by his competence rather than his mother tongue. That is why I think the Raila vision of 'detribalisation' of the country through diversification of appointments will not result in Kenya going forward apart from it being a lie of course!!!!"
This is the first and last refuge of tribalists. First they start with the nonsense of they need people they can trust. If the only people you can trust are your tribespeople, you have no business being the president of Kenya. Be the president of your tribe. If Kibaki can only trust people from his tribe after 45 years in politics, it tells me he is a tribalist. It means he has never mingled with or associated with other communities.
Tribalization of the OP and State House (under the guise of trusted people) is usually the beginning of the mess - the corruption, the nepotism, the introduction of private gangs etc which has ruined our country for 43 years. These people have ripped off the nation and engaged in political assassinations and other crimes against Kenyans. What is wrong with stopping that culture? Spare me the "Luo Brigade" sideshow, they have never run the country.
And then the comical "as long as people are qualified" mantra. Which world do you live in? In every society even here in Canada, diversity of institutions is a big part of building a just and tolerant society. There are qualified people from every community in Kenya.
Let the key institutions of state and government reflect the face of the country with qualified people. Why are some people so afraid of something so basic which is practiced in many countries in the world?
Ironically the same people who can only trust their tribespeople in the OP, in State House and in the Treasury have no problem seeking and even relying on the support of Kenyans from other communities when they are seeking power. How come Kibaki could trust Raila, Kalonzo etc to help him get elected and as soon as he got elected he could only trust people from his tribe?
Same thing happened in 1963 at the time of our national Independence. Kenyans fought together as a nation to achieve independence and as soon as that was realized, Kenyatta could only trust Mbiyu Koinange, James Gichuru, Njenga Karume etc. This is pure and simple tribalism and it is the seed that ruined our two most promising regimes; the independence regime (which turned murderous to further the goals of tribal hegemony) and the Narc 2002 regime which Kibaki turned into another tribal nightmare for the country.
Raila has set himself up to the challenge and I don't think your endless recital of the "lies" "lies" chorus can be justified until we see what the man does when he gets to State House. He also asked Kenyans to hold him accountable to that promise. Some of us intend to do just that.
As for the promises like the Mombasa port deal and and infrastructure improvements, they sound pretty appropriate and strategically needed to get the economy going. That is my next area of analysis. I don't think it will do anybody any justice to make sweeping statements and I am avoiding that.
You seem to be pretty upset that Miguna, a Kenyan by birth is contesting for the Nyando seat. The best way for you to exercise your opposition (or frustration) with that is to register as a voter in Nyando. I believe the people of Nyando have a right to elect anybody of their choice including you or Miguna.
I think it is quite insulting and actually very ignorant of you to think Raila simply orders "Luos" to vote for so and so and therefore he will order them to vote for Miguna in Nyando. Even Luos actually have brains. I know that may be news to you. Like I told Makau Mutua in another thread, tribalists have away of exposing themselves when they least expect it.
Adongo
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Post by adongo12345 on May 8, 2007 20:41:46 GMT 3
Alex said
"if you now state that corruption can be fight and checked by a "call" from The Messiah, as whom you increasingly misconstrue the sly and weasly populist politician known to mere mortal non-disciples as Raila Odinga, and if you believe that such lofty aim can be achieved without money, you would be clearly be not just out of Kenya, but out of this world, in a bizarre parallel universe. That is really hilarious."
Mr. Alexander
You probably know by now I have little patience with people who twist what others say and then proceed to respond to their own hallucinations. So my first inclination was to just ignore the rubbish you posted above. But if it makes you happy let me say a few things.
(1)You are entitled to your views on Raila, he is a public figure. If you want to debate about his views, his politics etc you are welcome.
(2) If you want to engage in abuse hurling and name calling as some form of debate, there are many fora, may be even your Kenyaimagine, who would welcome your contributions. This probably is not the place you are looking for. There are many fora which specialize on who can abuse Raila the most, they would be thrilled with your work if you are not there already. Try them. Otherwise I really see nothing here to talk about.
As to fighting corruption and judicial reforms. I can still remember the so-called "radical surgery" of the Judiciary by Kibaki. It ended up a grand fiasco. What we should learn from it is that it is pretty dangerous when the executive, particularly the president himself think they can singularly reform the judiciary.
I don't remember Raila or myself proposing that we should do away with KACC even though we know the anti-corruption gravy train has been turned into a very lucrative industry for some people. I am hoping there will be reforms in the numerous anti-corruption bodies to make them more effective, but if you ask me, I would prefer those reforms to come from the legislature rather than the executive. I don't know what part of this argument is so difficult to understand.
Adongo.
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Post by aeichener on May 8, 2007 21:29:07 GMT 3
Wow. You are dismantling your previous stance as a progressive and critical activist really, really quickly, head over heels, from one posting to the next. Once again, religious discipleship, as increasingly embraced by you (plus the bad company of utterly shady individuals hoping to secure their place at the richly-filled Bunge trough) seems to counteract sober thinking and and an independent mind. Sad to see. Now, to the points. First, my characterization of Raila as a sly and weasly populist politician is not name-calling (in Politicalactivist's style); it is just a sober assessment. You may think it is incorrect, but who sees this already as abuse has his mind and judgement allowed to become infected by a more religious than rational followership. Seeing your increasingly shrill and sectarian postings here makes me think that Amir Ibrahim has indeed a point in his just-published satirical take "My epiphany": www.kenyaimagine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=504&Itemid=86Secondly, you are right that the radical surgery of the judiciary was not carried through and followed up. That, indeed, is a shame. To learn more, I suggest that you read Chris Makau's merciless analysis attentively. You will benefit from his "Judicial Theatre (Punch & Judyciary): www.kenyaimagine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=495&Itemid=86Thirdly, I also agree with your take that anti-corruption has become an increasingly lucrative industry of its own. While GJLOS is a good approach and achieved quite a bit already, the forces of darkness fight back strenously. You are completely right that parliament should lead the movement, instead of running away from it in Reuben Ndolo style. And no, I do neither know which part of your argument you have obviously not understood. So, I shall be charitable and will just prefer to interpret your above-quoted statement as a bad case of foot-in-mouth. Can happen to everybody, now and then. Sincerely, Alexander |
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Post by adongo12345 on May 8, 2007 22:28:17 GMT 3
Alex
I have been writing, not on Jukwaa, since I was twelve years old. It is my daily aspirin. And I enjoy it very much. Some people wake up and rush to the coffee pot. I usually make my first dash to the computer to read a few things and write a few things. Whoever invented the internet must have had me in mind. Of course writing has also been a source of many problems for me. Right now the only problem I get is when my son needs to go play soccer and I am asking him to wait a little. Otherwise everything is pretty cool.
What I am saying is you might have some difficulties putting me in a pigeon hole, but you can always try. It wouldn't bother me. I am not writing so that Alex can call me progressive or any of that stuff. People have a right to judge my work and I respect their opinions. That is just life.
What I can't stand is when you distort what I say, suggesting we want to fight corruption without spending money etc. That is the kind of nonsense I don't like to put up with. You can talk/write all you want about Raila. If Raila doesn't want people to talk about him, he should be a private farmer somewhere.
What I said which I can see you put at the end without even the context is that there are a lot of things that can be done to fight corruption and tribalism (the two go together) which require no money and I wondered we why haven't we done those things. I am sure you are intelligent enough to understand that. What has such a straight forward thing got to do with Adongo wanting some "mesiah" to fight corruption without money yada yada. That is juvenile stuff and you know it and if you put it up, I will call you up on it again and again. That too you know.
Keep the debate straight and you will have my rapt attention. Try engaging in sideshows and you will get my rapt attention still, may be not very pleasant.
I don't want to be discussing Adongo & Alex, which seems to be your interest. If I do I will start that thread and then you can tell me what you think about me and may be I will have enough time to respond. This thread is not about me or you.
Adongo.
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Post by adongo12345 on May 8, 2007 23:44:56 GMT 3
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 9, 2007 0:01:13 GMT 3
How will R accomplish the tasks at hand? The "how" part is pretty simple to answer. 1) Cut the waste, the bleeding from corruption, that the likes of the dwarf mwiraria, DR CM, Ndwiga, Kituyi, and the like stole. They stole billions by using Gema cartels embedded within the civil service including the cowboy contractors First off to summarize Rs plans "as nothing new" is simply idiotic. It means his speech was read with a jaundiced eye the lens being tribally tinged. When it comes to effecting new policy wheel are hardly invented but rather refurbished, and emphasis redirected. Thats what Rs proposal did. He laid out a definate way of accomplishing economic targets, a new philosophy for de-tribalization to enhance national unity so torn apart by this rabid Gema regime, and the re-introduction of institutional frameworks with the new constitution as the foundation. At the end of the day R stands a very good chance of deposing the do nothing baboon. This article by JOHN CHERUIYOT , made my heart glow. www.timesnews.co.ke/09may07/nwsstory/opinion.htmlIt basically echoed the theme of an article by DOdipo int he EA Standard basically laying out the fact that R has a very good chance of winning. A few excerpts Tribalism, corruption, poverty and mediocrity: the four demons of Kenya are conquerable. These are the hallmarks of this Gema based and focused regime. It is becoming clearer to every Kenyan that Raila Odinga has what it takes to reclaim our sanity and dignity as a nation. Kenya given visionary leadership is capable of becoming a tiger of Africa by 2020. The KAMATUSA of Rift Valley will rally behind Raila and so will the Mijikenda and the cushites of North Eastern. The marginalised communities and the poor in both rural and urban slums will no doubt vote for Raila. I pray so. The country will be ill served with the likes of me-chuki, still in power. These guys see nothing but Gema. |
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Post by job on May 9, 2007 2:26:00 GMT 3
On Raila's vision - I justed finished a second detailed reading . I wonder what vision Jaindi Kisero (Nation) was reading when he unrealistically lumps Raila's vision with the other proposals I've seen claiming that it is unambitious and not radical. I think the Bomas manifesto in itself is a radical change. Doing away with political patronage will be a radical infusion of fresh air in Kenya. If devolution is not a radical economic agenda then I don't get some of these arguments akina Kisero are advancing.
Here is a serious blueprint that WILL dramatically change the current course being taken by the nation of Kenya, a path stiffled by corruption, tribalism, ineptitude, laxity and reluctance to share and distribute national resources. (as Cheruiyot correctly points)
On the question of HOW to REALIZE this vision. Unles someone chooses to ignore the details, the how's are all inherrently expressed in the vision itself.
About the how's ,....I think the blueprint itself addresses most of the how's within reasonable specificity as could be allowed for such a document. It's clarity is more outstanding. Raila hopes to invest massively in infrastructure, which is surely the key to economic development.
That will be a joint venture between public, private and international stakeholders, as he clearly articulated during his days at the roads Ministry. Joint ventures and partnerships including concessioning some highways and major roads for maintenance are not a bad idea, especially when corrupt cowboys, middlemen and determined red tape mandarins are kept at bay. As one who's manned the Roads Ministry before and even gone a step further to blacklist cowboy contractors, responsible for the current roads mess, I expect nothing but superflous roads from him. This must be done since basically we have no roads in Kenya.
Besides road constructions, other infrastructure projects that will create a lot of jobs (whose earnings will stimulate spending) include: expanding the railway system; improving telecommunications; converting Mombasa port into a free port, constructing another port at Lamu; modernising the inland port at Kisumu; elevating to international airport status Kisumu, Malindi and Wajir's facilities, as well as expanding and improving those at Isiolo, Lamu and Lodwar up to full airport status; building a dual carriageway from Mombasa to Malaba/Busia; constructing water-supply and conservation systems for irrigation and industrial, domestic and livestock usage; etc
How? Involving all sectors, public, private and foreign. Prudent management of public funds, less Goldenberg or Anglo-Fleecing procurement hemorhages will free billions for such spending. Besides, decreased corruption will stimulate private sector interest (local and foreign) for partnerships. Increased tax revenues will help too.
Another big "how" is right here:
Facilitating access for citizens to factors of production (the land question very crucial) :
Facilitating access by Kenyans to the factors of production, including land, capital and technology, all of which are essential for the upward social mobility of the people.........with a clearly articulated land policy, based on a set of simplified, rationalised and consolidated laws and regulations.......
In doing so, we shall pay particular attention to the need of women to access the factors of production, introducing legislation that will ensure women equal rights with men in this regard, and consolidating and expanding women's access to credit facilities, business advisory services and training.
A list of other "hows":
Emphasis on production economics & not just the service sector: .....We shall emphasise the productive sectors of the economy – manufacturing, large-scale agriculture, and the IT revolution.
...see facilitation of access to factors of production above and policy incentives for manufacturing (including tax breaks, and crushing of red tapes) below.
Public expenditure in rural economies:
Providing support and training to farmers, fishermen and pastoralist communities. We shall also pursue a policy of investing in facilities that add value to locally available produce.
Jumpstarting marginalized areas for productivity:
Via a Marshall Plan in historically marginalised regions of the country, in order to fast-track development in education, health, social services, infrastructure and facilities for livestock processing and marketing.
Increased CDF allocation for rural ammenities:
Increasing provision for the Constituency Development Fund from 2.5 per cent of the national budget to 10 per cent – the Kibaki government having refused to increase it to 7.5 per cent, despite parliamentary approval......placing more resources in the hands of communities, where funds will be used directly to meet the needs of the local people and enhance the production of wealth where the majority of people live.
Serious fight against corruption & tribalism:
Putting an end to cronyism, where the president appointed only his friends, tribalism, where the president appointed only his tribe, nepotism, where the president appointed only his relatives, and the primitive accumulation of wealth through corruption by these few at the expense of the many.
Correcting the sorry state of affairs that was born by the implementation of the Ndegwa Commission Report of 1971, which allowed civil servants also to engage in private business. This in effect legalised and institutionalised conflict of interest within the civil service, which led to gross inefficiency, corruption, grand larceny in government procurement- particularly regarding infrastructure, defence and government supplies. This corruption has fleeced the country of billions and billions of shillings. Where a lot of this money has gone is more than evident in the way senior civil servants and military personnel retire from public service as multi-billionaires.
This kind of conflict of interest drew the alarm and dismay of some of our early leaders. They opposed what was happening and stood up for the poor of Kenya – and many of these opponents of looting died in their attempts to defend their poverty-stricken fellow countrymen and women.
Attracting local & Foreign direct investments:
We shall promote Kenyans to engineer growth and development in the private sector, at the same time attracting foreign direct investment by creating favourable conditions for that investment, including tax holidays – and most importantly by removing the bureaucratic red tape that currently dogs potential investors and helps prevent the creation of wealth.
We shall remove the punitive taxation that is killing domestic industries, as well as putting structures in place to remove the possibility of extortion, particularly that regularly practised by Kenya Revenue Authority personnel when they visit companies and other enterprises.
Increase public spending via devolution.
Presidential systems are associated with lower public spending and fewer benefits for the people, and this eventually results in the kind of inequality that characterises our system. That is what I will change. Power-sharing in a people-driven and consultative process is the way forward, along with devolution of power, as provided for in the Bomas Draft. This is something I am 100 per cent committed to.
Increased spending in education spread across the nation not centred in few localities: (the biggest investment):
We shall employ more teachers and provide them with better training and remuneration, with the objective of achieving within five years a teacher/student ratio of one to 35.
We shall provide continuous, compulsory education from primary to secondary in all schools, and ensure standardised physical facilities and equipment in all public education institutions.
We shall enhance the establishment of post-secondary vocational training institutions for artisanry and middle-level managerial training.
We shall also restructure the ownership and management of village polytechnics to provide more effective training, and we will ensure that there is a public university in each province.
Active involvement & participation in nation building by Kenyans in diaspora:
Concomitant with the ideals contained in the Bomas Draft is dual citizenship for Kenyans. Kenyans abroad remit billions of shillings – far more than our country earns from foreign aid – yet, Kenyans living abroad are not recognized and bestowed with the rights all citizens must have, including the right to vote. My government intends to change that.
Meticulous tax reforms & harmonization:
"have you realized that many active regional economies remit paltry taxes".
- broaden the tax base, which will at the same time allow us to reduce the individual tax burden, particularly for certain overtaxed groups in society, such as civil servants, who will benefit from a significant tax reduction ....... a tax policy that encourages domestic savings for investment in increased production and more equitable wealth distribution..... creation of a large middle-income group in the country that will rapidly constitute a large market, which in turn will fuel further private-sector investment.
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 9, 2007 2:52:01 GMT 3
Job
well done I did my retort when at a small 'kibarua' so it wasnt as exhaustive as yours.
But the message is the same.
It can be summarized in a few words
1) Proper resource utilization
2) Stoppage of waste via corruption
3) Involvement of the wenye nchi
4) Establish constitutional frameworks that will encourage meritrocracy and nationalism NOT Gemaism.
These are but a few.
How can one read Rs speech and come out with the dismissive opinion of "nothing new" there, unless one is a certified retard or just a tribal monger/hater?
R has a great shot at bieng the ODM and then PORK!!
I am guardedly optimistic.
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Post by kamalet on May 9, 2007 8:24:47 GMT 3
A number of us here in Jukwaa would like everyone else to embrace the Raila "vision" without question as the ultimate solution for Kenya. Job has tried to trash the Jaindi Kisero article on the vision duplication as well as the misguided notion that each one is a solution for Kenya. Perhaps Job will only see a tribalist in this article www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=25&newsid=97704 which if read seriously does articulate some of the stuff we have said here. .....and now to Miguna: That is why you will find the Migunas of this world wanting to be MPs of constituencies they have only visited once in 10 years - but sincerely hope that organising fund raising meetings for Raila in Canada and the US is will ensure that Raila tells the respective constituents that so and so is TOSAH!!.As usual Miguna completely refuses to read what is written, see mention of his name and goes ballistic. FYI Mr. Miguna, you are not the only one hoping to get this "TOSAH" nonesense, you are in the company of several people - Ref: Jaluo.com for the names! Your claim to visit Nyando every three times every year is not sufficient claim to the mantle of leadership in Nyando and only helps fortify my view that you are hanging on the very coat tails of Raila to say "TOSAH". You cannot claim not to live in an area and still try to convince people that you are aware of their issues. Sadly, it is this way of thinking that keeps Nyanza behind the rest of the country where we get a bunch of people 'installed' in constituencies simply on account of how much of a relative anyone is to Raila or how much one can put into a spouses Kitty - if you doubt me, just look at the monkeys we ended up with as MPs in Nyanza. I cannot begrudge you the wish to represent Nyando and I actually wish you all the success. But when we are still 6 months to an election and you are still in Canada, unless you have been told 'Tosah', you should be burning up your heels walking up and down in Nyando soliciting for votes! I could not help getting that feeling that I touched a raw nerve somewhere! |
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Post by kamalet on May 9, 2007 8:31:21 GMT 3
Job/Adongo,
I think you two are not answering the pertinent question which is also what Kisero was talking about.
The vision can all be very nice and solutions premised on good ideas. Unfortunately, the vision will cost money! We want to know how much this will cost even when he achieve whatever in 20 or 30 years!
What Raila should also tell us is how he will raise this money! He did not tell us, and for those that pay taxes in Kenya we would have serious councerns about how much more tax we have to pay to finance all the goodies we are being promised especially when they are shared with those that do not PRODUCE!
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Post by miguna on May 9, 2007 9:39:09 GMT 3
Kamau,
When was the last time Kibaki was in Nyando?
Is he not the president of all of Kenya/Kenyans, including Nyando/Nyando people? So, how come Kibaki has never stepped in Nyando, not just since becoming president, but since 1963?
Yet, aren't you desperate that he should be re-elected, even by Nyando people?
Why should Nyando and the rest of Nyanza, Western, Rift Valley, Coast and North Eastern re-elect this sleeping punda if he has never cared to visit them where they live?
Remember that he is the president; not Miguna!
Now, regarding my visits to Nyando - they are more frequent than Kibaki visits Othaya.
They are certainly more frequent than a lot of other contestants visit their constituencies; leave alone others who cashed on Agwambo's fire power in 2002. Many of those people arrived and got elected the same week!
But don't lose sleep over me. Nyando people are with me. I know you know. That is the reason for the desperation. See how desperate you and others are?
Continue to slumber my good friend. We want you to remain in that position, together with your friends over at Jaluo.com. That's great. Discuss Miguna until cows return. It is good for my campaign!
It is over my friend. Just accept the inevitable.
R is winning. Kibaki is toast. The ground is swelling rapidly...
Once again, this thread is about the Vision of the People's President! Discuss...[unedited]
MM
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Post by kamalet on May 9, 2007 17:18:51 GMT 3
Miguna,
Tuliza boli!!
If the people of Nyando elect Miguna, that is their problem whether they will judge you by your numerous visits or by Raila shouting Miguna Tosah - I actually would not even think about quarelling them, so no need to get so worked up.
Also note that my name is Kamale and not Kibaki so you constant bringing in of Kibaki to make your points is rather lame.
If Raila will be Kenyas president - AND GOD FORBID!!! - then Kenyans will have made another mistake as they have done the last 40 or so years. After all they seem used to getting mediocre leadership which you so earnestly wish to join!
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Post by miguna on May 9, 2007 20:05:17 GMT 3
Kamau,
No. Of course, you are our own John Kamau, the chief sleuth.
Does that discount any of my observations about Kibaki falling alseep at the switch? No!
All I wanted was to show the logical flaw in your argument about the number of visits I make to Nyando. Do you now see how easy it is to dismantle myths like the one you tried to peddle?
Raila has laid out his vision for Kenyans to consider. He is receiving a lot of support on the ground.
He has also received ferocious insults from idlers like you. That'ds OK.
But perhaps you should tell us why you believe that the Vision of the People's President represents the same "faliures" of 43 years.
Whom do you think will bring forth the so-called changes you want? Is it Kibaki? Is it Kalonzo? Who is it? And why do you say they can but not R?
Those are the issues; not Nyando or yours truly.
If you are not worried about me, why did you try to change the topic from R''s Vision for Kenya?
Relax. R is winning.
My last word on this Kamau. Ngorota tu. [unedited]
MM
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 9, 2007 21:55:20 GMT 3
Look at this bullsh!t assertion below higlighted in red.
A number of us here in Jukwaa would like everyone else to embrace the Raila "vision" without question as the ultimate solution for Kenya.
Job has tried to trash the Jaindi Kisero article on the vision duplication as well as the misguided notion that each one is a solution for Kenya. Perhaps Job will only see a tribalist in this article .
Which "number of us" is this? Who asked that this agenda be adopted without critique? R will have to sell it first to the wenye nchi. Watcha wa some and digest it and see if there is common ground between their aspirations and Rs vision. Let the people decide!
The fact that Rs vision is supported emphatically by some doesnt mean you should take our word lock stock and barrel.
Read the vision/agenda/manifesto and critique it as you see fit.
What R needs to do is to convince a preponderance of the wenye nchi to follow his vision in the direction he is pointing towards.
Job gave a glowing blow by blow account of "HOW" R intends to achieve his vision.
Critique that.
The sleeper in chief, that sloth from the slopes has had 4 and half yrs.
Nothing has been achieved apart from the mirage of "free" primary school and and a GDP growth rate pulled from the thin air.
-poverty is still an issue, it has hardly been ameliorated
-diseases even exotic ones like RVF are all the rage
-no new constitutional dispensation
-no dent in the Gema cabals running corruption
-violent thugery increasing
-tribalism rampant
I mean what has this guy done to mandate onother 5 yrs?
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Post by kamalet on May 10, 2007 8:26:13 GMT 3
Pmaniac,
The point am making is that the Raila vision is just that a vision. Many critics still do not see how he will achieve these or even the relevance of some of his proposals apart from them being populist!
That is why I do not fault your wish to see R elected in as much as there are those that think Kalonzo is even better as he has come up with startling but foolish tax proposals.
Kenyans saw through the tax ruse by Kalonzo and will also see the populist ruse in Raila's vision. If you ask me, Kenyans want very simple things - not the grandiose 'let us be like Korea' plots being promised.
A Kenyan with a roof, food for his children and opportunities for their education will be more satisfied than one who is promised an airport at Wajir or an international one at Kisumu that has no one travelling! If you ask the rural Nyanza woman or man, they are perhaps more interested in very basic needs such management of floods as opposed to an airport they will never use, but in typical JFP we shall build an airport of international standards just like the one in Eldoret!!
Kenyans will elect a leader in December but you can be sure of one thing - he will neither be a flower or an ODMoron!
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