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Post by omundu on Apr 12, 2012 11:17:04 GMT 3
If what phil says is true, then i feel sad for Mudavadi, the man who hails two homesteads away from my Moms home. I am still compelled to wait longer before i make any judgements because i find it hard to believe that this omusakhulu would use such machiavelian tactics as an excuse to leave, or is indeed considering leaving (trust me, there are lots from his region who are wondering whats going on)
Its weird how the G7 are silent on this issue. They would have normally jumped on it to try and prove the "lack of democracy" in ODM. This reminds me of a saying a former lecturer of mine used to like; with a heavy Boer accent he used to quip " Meneer (thats Mr) so and so, remember, when you see a snake in the grass, be afraid. When you dont see a snake in the grass, be very afraid"
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Post by nok on Apr 12, 2012 12:16:32 GMT 3
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 12:23:00 GMT 3
Phew!! Omwenga, that was a long winded piece of blackmail that Mudavadi may ever read. As already pointed out by a member, it sounds more like self-preservation than anything else. Anyhow, I do not find anything that indicates that Mudavadi might have wanted rules changed to favor him, but to level the field for a free and fair contest. During Moi time, he believed and still do even today that there was democracy in KANU and therefore people did not need other parties. Together with Raila and others, Kenyans told him no, we needed more space. We did not do this because we wanted a headstart against moi, no, but because we wanted a level playing field. That is what Mudavadi is asking of ODM. How do you get into a contest while knowing fairly well that the rules do not allow you to even try in the first place? That is how upside-down Raila camps thinking is. They want Musalia to continue campaigning on the promise that the rules will be changed later. Only a fool can accede to such. We have been around long enough to know that such things don't work. We saw it with IPPG, Narc MoU and lately ODM-Muslim MoU. It will be even worse with the stringent timelines in the political parties act. Mudavadi will be taken in circles untill such a time that he not make a move. Thats when the Midiwos and the Kajwangs will resurface in their true colors. Balala's counsel must ring very true in Mudavadi's ear especially now. We have told him in both dholuo and english that ODM is Raila and Raila is ODM, he doesn't like that, shauri yake. The party is already registered with those draconian rules, ata do? Mwalimumkuu,, Hehehehe. This is not a "long winded piece of blackmail" and neither is it contemptuous as I saw someone else complain. I think a fair and objective reader would agree it is just that; a fair and objective expression of my plea to have our friend Mudavadi seriously re-think his intended departure from ODM. You say you don't see anything indicating Mudavadi wanted rules changed to favor him but this is exactly why he is leaving, if he does and that is, he is not getting his way. In fact, put aside he wanted rules changed to favor him; let's for the sake of argument say he just wanted rules changed to be fair to all wishing to contend for the party nomination; that process is still on and those rules will be so changed in the end. You don't seem to have faith this will be the case as I also alluded in the letter that Mudavadi may not be as well but we can't act on the basis of suspicions and innuendo in a democracy. A key component of party democracy is party loyalty and faithfulness. If Mudavadi has no loyalty or faith in the party, especially in its decision making organs, then he might leave on that ground for of what use is it to lead a party you have no faith in its leadership or membership? My point here is and this is really what I am saying is Mudavadi should stay put, fight for whatever he needs to and even if in the end he doesn't get his way and is not nominated, he still needs to stay put and have a clean shot to succeed Raila either as party leader or president or both. He shall regret his departure, if he does but shall be forever happy if he does not.
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Post by mzee on Apr 12, 2012 12:26:48 GMT 3
Omwenga, Some people just dont get it. Let them wallow in ignorance, your piece was spot on.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 12:33:22 GMT 3
If what phil says is true, then i feel sad for Mudavadi, the man who hails two homesteads away from my Moms home. I am still compelled to wait longer before i make any judgements because i find it hard to believe that this omusakhulu would use such machiavelian tactics as an excuse to leave, or is indeed considering leaving (trust me, there are lots from his region who are wondering whats going on) Its weird how the G7 are silent on this issue. They would have normally jumped on it to try and prove the "lack of democracy" in ODM. This reminds me of a saying a former lecturer of mine used to like; with a heavy Boer accent he used to quip " Meneer (thats Mr) so and so, remember, when you see a snake in the grass, be afraid. When you dont see a snake in the grass, be very afraid" Omoko (Brother-in-Law) Omundu, I call you that because brother took one fine lady from your mother's neck of the woods ;D You are the voices our friend needs to hear and must hear. I quoted two in the letter I wish more can write to him or petition him. One chronic problem with leaders, is that they are often denied or shielded from hearing the truth or facts by the clique around him and this is no different for Mudavadi but it's worth trying nonetheless. I know he gets my messages and I have even had occasion to convey it in person and have always had the impression he is not acting in bad faith but people often do drift or morph int characters they were not from the beginning--especially when things suddenly start appearing very enticing based on bad advice. Again, I hope more of you could mobilize and save our brother from making a bad mistake he may regret later, not that it would irreparably harm the community or the party for that matter, I doubt that, but because it's not necessary.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 12:37:14 GMT 3
Omwenga,Some people just dont get it. Let the wallow in ignorance, your peace was spot on. Thanks Mzee., I certainly hope our friend gets it.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 12:55:48 GMT 3
If it is true that Mudavadi has left ODM, who was its only ' cosmopolitan face', the party now burrows back into its tribal cocoon and is officially a 'jaluio' party led by none other that a Luo Elder - Raila Odinga son of Adonijah. Wacha ukabila This is ODMs NEC and I dont see anything tribal in it even if Mudavadi departs DESIGNATION FULL NAMES Party Leader The Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga Deputy Party leader (Policy) Hon Wycliffe Musalia Mudavadi Deputy Party Leader (Strategy) Hon William Ruto Samoei National Chairperson Hon. Henry Kosgey Deputy Chairperson – Operations Hon. Alfred Wekesa Sambu Deputy Chairperson – Programmes Hon. Ramadhan Self Kajembe Deputy Chairperson – Political Affairs Hon. Aden Duale Deputy Chairperson – Strategy Hon. Joseph William Nthiga Nyagah Deputy Chairperson- External Affairs Hon. Elizabeth Ongoro Masha Deputy Chairperson- Internal Affairs Hon. Bishop Margaret Wanjiru Kariuki Secretary General Hon. Prof. Peter Anyang’ Nyong’o Deputy Secretary General –- Political Affairs Hon. Mohamed .M. Ali Deputy Secretary General –- Administration Ms. Lydia KImani Deputy Secretary General –– Operations Hon. Joseph Nkaisserry Deputy Secretary General –- Strategy Hon. Thomas Ludindi Mwadeghu National Treasurer Deputy Treasurer – Finance Hon. Mahamud Maalim Mohamed Deputy Treasurer – Planning Ms. Mary Ruto Deputy Treasurer – Resource Mobilisation Hon. Dalmas Otieno Anyango Deputy Treasurer—Audit Ms. Hasia Abubakar Ireri National Organizing Secretary Hon Hassan Ali Joho Deputy Organizing Secretary – Internal Affairs Ms Rozaah Buyu Deputy Organizing Secretary – External Affairs Hon. Mohammed Gabbow Deputy Organizing Secretary – Programmes Hon. Reuben Ndolo Deputy Organizing Secretary – Recruitment Hon. Benjamin Langat Secretary for Public Policy and Economic Affairs Hon. Chrysantaus B. Okemo Secretary for Legal and Constitutional Affairs Mr. Milton Mugambi Imanyara Secretary for Publicity and Information Ms. Florence Nyakundi Secretary for International Affairs Hon. Josphat Koli Nanok Secretary for Women Affairs (Orange Women Democrats Leader) Ms. Grace Mboja Secretary for Youth Affairs (Young Orange Democrats Leader) Mr. John Kiarie Secretary for Special Interests Groups Hon. Francis Chachu Ganya Secretary for Environment Mrs. Rael Soi Secretary for Parliamentary Affairs (Whip) Hon Jakoyo Midiwo Secretary for Devolved Government Hon. Simeon Mwero Mkalla Secretary for Science and Technology Mr. Samuel Muciri W ‘njunguna Secretary for Labour and Human Resource Development Mrs. Emelda Obwana Scretary for Security Major ( Rtd) John Waluke Secretary for Humanitarian and Disaster Management Affairs Hon. Sophia Abdi Noor Secretary for disability affairs Mr. Mwaura Maigua Isaac Secretary for Special programmes and Social welfare Ms. Jane Muringi Wangui Secretary for Political Affairs Mr. Peter Kirimi Mbogo Convention Chairperson Hon. Fredrick O. Gumo Deputy Convention Chairperson Mrs. Fatuma Ali Samn Deputy Secretary for Women Affairs Mrs. Elizabeth Chesang Deputy Secretary For Women Affairs Ms. Nancy Abisai Deputy Secretary for Youth Affairs Ms, Zulekha Juma Hassan Deputy Secretary for Youth Affairs Mr. Ezekiel B. Rioba Regional Representative –Nairobi Ms. Margy Sewe Regional Representative-Coast Ms. Mishi Juma Khamisi Regional Representative -North Eastern Ms. Muslima Issack Yussuf Regional Representative- Eastern Ms. Seth Kakusye Mutua Regional Representative- Central Mrs. Mumbi Ngáru Regional Representative- Rift Valley Cllr. Lydia Naneu Masikonte Regional Representative- Western Ms. Bibiana Robayi Khamete Andabwa Regional Representative- Nyanza Mrs. Monica Akeyo Amollo Executive Director Ms. Janet Ong’era Excellent rejoinder Mzee." Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." So said John Adams in argument in defense of soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials, December 1770. Always amazing how facts and truth are sacrificed, butchered and ignored in exaltation of ukabila.
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Post by phil on Apr 12, 2012 14:54:49 GMT 3
ODM is currently ridding on a 52% popularity rating nationally. So anyone calling ODM a tribal party is talking hogwash.
It better, on the right thread, to train your guns on the real tribal parties. Look no further than FORD-K, New FORD-K, PNU, ODM-K or even your beloved URP. I heard of another one called UDF, GNU et all.
Can any of them stand the test of being national parties? I doubt it.
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Post by omundu on Apr 12, 2012 14:57:16 GMT 3
Heeehehehe. Omwenga, Us Babukusu would call you mulamwa. And yes, my dad had to cross rivers, forests and many hills to take cows those sides.
On a serious matter, what Muda is doing is still being ingested in that neck of the woods. People are wondering whats going on. There is no logical explanation from Mudavadi about the heckling his associates have been making lately.
If he indeed moves to another party (people wonder) will he also ask them to go through the type of nomination process he has been championing in ODM ? Do those other parties even have nomination processes ? Even if those other parties agree to his way of nominating a candidate, will they change their constitution (go through the entire process) before the deadline for registration?
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 16:17:40 GMT 3
Heeehehehe. Omwenga, Us Babukusu would call you mulamwa. And yes, my dad had to cross rivers, forests and many hills to take cows those sides. On a serious matter, what Muda is doing is still being ingested in that neck of the woods. People are wondering whats going on. There is no logical explanation from Mudavadi about the heckling his associates have been making lately. If he indeed moves to another party (people wonder) will he also ask them to go through the type of nomination process he has been championing in ODM ? Do those other parties even have nomination processes ? Even if those other parties agree to his way of nominating a candidate, will they change their constitution (go through the entire process) before the deadline for registration? Mulamwa,I like that. Here is what I can tell you from sources telling me this: unless heaven intervenes, which is always possible with a prayer, you will soon be seeing the man holding hands with lady all of us are familiar with--that's assuming the checks being sought or cut for those to accompany them at the press conference don't finish before everyone gets theirs in which case that may stall or never even be. As to where he goes, it of course goes without saying you ask him he will retort, "internal democracy what?!" Hehehehe. That's Kenyan politics for the shortsighted for you. Let's hope he takes wise counsel he is receiving an earful of and reverses course for surely ODM has to be the best bet for him if he thinking leadership and presidential ambition. That's out of the question, of course, if its other factors in play that are more important to him than that such as wealth accumulation or payback.
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Post by mank on Apr 12, 2012 16:18:53 GMT 3
Omwenga,
Trust me, when I commented on your advise to Mudavadi I was not all informed of the extent to which the polarity between the DPM and his boss have gone. I was commenting on the language of your open letter at face value.
Why do I find this necessary to clarify: it is because I know that on Jukwaa if you say anything that seems defensive of an opponent of Raila in any way, then you are doing so because you are against Raila. So mine is to assure you that Raila, or any controversy between the two gentlemen was in no way a factor to my comments.
I will probably pay more attention to the battle of the big 2 from now on, if I can catch up. I have not had any interest.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 12, 2012 16:41:46 GMT 3
Omwenga, Trust me, when I commented on your advise to Mudavadi I was not all informed of the extent to which the polarity between the DPM and his boss have gone. I was commenting on the language of your open letter at face value. Why do I find this necessary to clarify: it is because I know that on Jukwaa if you say anything that seems defensive of an opponent of Raila in any way, then you are doing so because you are against Raila. So mine is to assure you that Raila, or any controversy between the two gentlemen was in no way a factor to my comments. I will probably pay more attention to the battle of the big 2 from now on, if I can catch up. I have not had any interest. Mank,No problem, no hurt feelings. I always give people the benefit of doubt unless I am absolutely sure or can confirm what they are up-to. I responded the manner I did because I thought your issue was not me but Raila as I have seen it happen time and again but thanks for clarifying. That's now in the past with no hurt feelings.
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Post by mintos on Apr 12, 2012 18:43:46 GMT 3
hehehe this being Kenya, I tell you if Mudavadi walks out of ODM the details of the 240 Million shillings cementary funds theft and his role in the whole saga will be out
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Post by phil on Apr 12, 2012 21:16:58 GMT 3
TOLD YOU SO! Mudavadi is fishing everywhere and making enquiries everywhere!
Mudavadi wants a merger of the two FORD-K's but it is akin to attempting mixing oil and water.
Mudavadi's camp still looking for winning formula as of today's date reason why statement of defection has not been issued.
Mudavadi still sending mixed signals to ODM hierarchy still afraid to take the plunge. ODM Legal team meeting rescheduled.
The Prime Minister has been busy campaigning in NEP this last two days and has not spoken to his deputy lately since they were last seen at an official function in Kisumu. Raila is being kept up to date by his 2012 Secretariat and other party functionaries.
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 12, 2012 21:36:07 GMT 3
TOLD YOU SO! Mudavadi is fishing everywhere and making enquiries everywhere! Mudavadi wants a merger of the two FORD-K's but it is akin to attempting mixing oil and water. Mudavadi's camp still looking for winning formula as of today's date reason why statement of defection has not been issued. Mudavadi still sending mixed signals to ODM hierarchy still afraid to take the plunge. ODM Legal team meeting rescheduled. The Prime Minister has been busy campaigning in NEP this last two days and has not spoken to his deputy lately since they were last seen at an official function in Kisumu. Raila is being kept up to date by his 2012 Secretariat and other party functionaries. phil,Someone should tell Mudavadi there is an opening in Kanu jow with Uhuru gone. But that is a re-union Mudavadi made in 2002 and paid dearly when he lost his own seat in bunge. Worse still Kanu may never make it as a registered party. But there is always TIP where Mudavadi can team up with Kalembe Ndile and cause a storm across the land. It is a fully registered party although it appears there are a lot of fake members included. There is always a problem when people wait for others to do the work and them come in to enjoy the benefits. At some point you have to work for stuff. That is what ordinary folks do. Politicians just want things handed over to them including political parties. That may not work very easy under the new circumstances. It is a barve new world out there.
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Post by phil on Apr 12, 2012 21:52:42 GMT 3
its not a secret anymore that money (lots of it) has exchanged hands. ask anyone on the streets of Nairobi and they will even quote for you the figure. ODM delegates nationally are now said to be looking forward to campaign visits by a generous Mudavadi.
But what is funny in all this is his brazen attempt to merge Shitanda's New FORD-K and Wetangula's FORD-K. KADDU has nil support in that region and has not been mentioned although Mudavadi was the one who vetoed Bonny Khalwale's intended defection to ODM prior to the Ikolomani by-elections. This is also not a secret.
Needless to say, Mudavadi took charge of ODM campaings and the party lost the Ikolomani by-election in a region where it is said to enjoy fanatical support. Do you see the contradiction that has obviously been caused by G-7 agenda in Western?
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 12, 2012 23:46:58 GMT 3
WHAT IS THIS? IS MUSEVENI MEDDLING AGAIN? HE DOES HAVE DEEP POCKETS ?? MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD LOOK AT ON WHOSE BEHAVE MUSEVENI IS ACTING FOR AS A MESSENGER IN REGARDS TO MUDAVADI'S PLANNED DEFECTION FROM ODM WHY EXACTLY WAS HE MEETING MUSEVENI? Other than that we can't tell," stated our sources. AGAIN I ASK WHY? MUSEVENI IS KNOWN TO MEDDLE IN KENYA POLITIC'S USED THROUGH THIRD POLITICAL PARTIES IN KENYA AND FOREIGN POWERS WHAT?? KANU WAS REPRESENTED BY MARK TOO "MOI" ROVING ENVOY AT THE SAME MEETING HELD BY MUSEVENI FOR MUDAVADI.. SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY!!!Yesterday, sources revealed that the tightly controlled five-hour trip to and from Kampala was squeezed in between the Local Government minister's schedule of meeting ODM party delegates on Tuesday. After Mudavadi flew back from Uganda, he went ahead that afternoon to meet supporters in Siaya. On Thursday while campaigning in Kisumu, Mudavadi called on party delegates to consider the now changed political landscape in choosing the party's flag bearer. allafrica.com/stories/201204100074.htmlOK SOME BIG MONEY IS POURING IN FROM KENYAN & FOREIGN BACKERS BEHIND MUDAVADI? HE JUST DIDN'T WAKE UP AND DECIDED THAT HE WAS GONG TO RUN AGAINST HIS PARTY LEADER? IT REQUIRES MAJOR $$$$ AND BACKERS!!! SINCE ONE CAN'T FOLLOW THE MONEY CARRIED IN BRIEF CASES.. ( REMEMBER YK92 ) OPEN YOUR EARS & EYES IT IS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE ON WHO IS BEHIND THE MUDAVADI SAGA..
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Post by Titchaz on Apr 13, 2012 2:42:19 GMT 3
Raila allies plot as Musalia networks By DAVID OHITO and ROSELYNE OBALA Prime Minister Raila Odinga maintained his silence on the hint by his deputy and rival for presidential ticket that he could already have one leg outside Orange Democratic Movement. However, interviews with his associates showed he is well aware of Mudavadi’s concerns, and he won’t be surprised if he abandons him like he did in 2002. They suggest the Prime Minister is already working on already working on a strategy to take care of the Deputy Prime Minister’s exit if it comes to that. At the same time it emerged Mudavadi was consulting his allies and potential hosts in a new political party, as the country waits the "comprehensive statement" he promised on Wednesday. Then, Mudavadi said he was "making a considered assessment" of the situation in ODM. Though Raila kept his silence, probably so as not be seen either to be aggravating the situation or directly at war with Mudavadi, his allies turned on the DPM. Seven Members of Parliament from Nyanza Province and one from Western met at Serena Hotel, Nairobi, where sources said they discussed possible options should the Sabatia MP quit. ODM Chief Whip Jakoyo Midiwo reportedly chaired the Serena meeting. In attendance were MPs Fred Outa (Nyando), Oyugi Magwanga (Kasipul-Kabondo), John Mbadi (Gwassi), Oburu Odinga (Bondo), Ayiecho Olweny, (Muhoroni), and Nicholas Gumbo (Rarieda), and Sports minister Paul Otuoma (Samia).When contacted, Mr Midiwo said they would respond to Mudavadi’s threat today at the burial of the late vice- chairperson of National Cohesion and Integration Commission, Mary Onyango, in Ugenya. Raila’s wing in ODM also mobilised youth leaders from all the four Western Province counties, which constitute Mudavadi’s political turf, to a meeting in Busia where they criticised the DPM.Mudavadi met Housing Minister Soita Shitanda and Ikolomani MP Bony Khalwale of New Ford-Kenya party on Wednesday evening, but the details of the meeting remained scanty. But yesterday in Kakamega, Justice Minister Eugene Wamalwa, who is also in this party, confirmed they indeed met Mudavadi and insisted he is welcome to their party."We will seal the deal, but I will be in a good position to make the announcement this afternoon (yesterday) at Golf Hotel," he said, but he left Kakamega without doing so.He had earlier called on journalists to come for his "major announcement" at Kakamega High School. "Kakamega will be the best place to make such an announcement," he had stated. ReplacementIt was not, however, clear if Wamalwa, who apart from being seen as Uhuru Kenyatta’s preferred choice for running mate under G7 Alliance, also insists he is in the presidential race himself, would handover New Ford-Kenya’s presidential ticket to the Sabatia MP if he crossed over.It is also emerging Raila’s camp held strategy meetings with his campaign secretariat proposing two options just in case Mudavadi quits. Featuring in the meetings were James Ongwae, who heads Raila campaign secretariat, and Barrack Muluka, who is the Director of Communications for Raila team. There was also former Cabinet minister and political science lecturer Amukoa Anangwe. Some of his strategists reveal the PM’s options should Mudavadi leave over disagreement on nomination rule that guarantees the party leader presidential nomination ticket, include courting as running someone else from Western Province.Three names are featuring in the discussions – Cabinet ministers Noah Wekesa, Moses Wetangula, and Speaker Kenneth Marende. But it is not clear if they have been informed or have had any discussions with Raila or any of his associates. There is also mention of some non-political actors from Western Province being touted as possible choices for Mudavadi’s place. "The party is looking beyond current MPs as the PM shops for a running mate. The net is cast wider and we are looking at Western keenly and should Mudavadi bolt out, Raila will have look for replacement from there," said a minister, who requested not to be named given the sensitivity of the matter. The minister revealed the PM had requested leaders to tone down attacks on Mudavadi, saying it was polarising the party. Nyatike MP Omondi Anyanga challenged Mudavadi to explain why he remained silent over the years as nominations rules were made while he endorsed them. "Mudavadi was welcomed. We helped him meet delegates across our constituencies to campaign. For him to indicate he is about to ditch the party is worrying," Anyanga said. Wamwalwa revealed New Ford-Kenya was enticing Mudavadi to their side. When contacted Shitanda, who heads New Ford-Kenya, confirmed they met, but contradicted Wamalwa saying their discussions were on Western Province issues. EnemiesShitanda also said he was not aware that Wamalwa was expected to make a major announcement in Kakamega. Information Assistant George Khaniri, a close ally of Mudavadi, said he was not aware of any of these meetings, a line also taken by the DPM’s Director of Communications Kibisu Kabatesi. "Kenyans are allowed to speculate. This is a free country, but the final decision rests with Mudavadi," added Kabatesi. Khaniri maintained they were still firmly in ODM and would push for the changes to be effected in the party constitution. "If we come to a dead end, we will inform our supporters and weigh our options," said Khaniri.Shinyalu MP Justus Kizito also said they were not leaving ODM and refuted reports Mudavadi’s allies were about to ditch the party. "We are just pushing for democracy in the party. We want the one who will get the ticket to be the choice of party delegates," he explained. ODM youth leaders in Western and Nyanza provinces accused Mudavadi of allegedly working with enemies of their party. They claimed Mudavadi had been secretly meeting Uhuru and Eldoret North MP William Ruto, who are in G-7 Alliance.They now want their deputy party leader to explain his continued association with senior leaders of rival parties. Addressing a press conference in Busia town, the youth leaders led by Ben Ombima of Vihiga County, claimed Mudavadi was sowing seeds of discord in ODM. When contacted Kabatesi asked: "Who can believe what the youth led by Ombima say? www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000056162&cid=4¤tPage=1P.S. Just to answer Kabatesi's arrogant mouth, those youth led by Ombima have voters cards and your boss needs all votes he can get.
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Post by mzee on Apr 13, 2012 9:42:54 GMT 3
Titchaz, I guess that when you are told that you are the toughest guy in town for long enough, you actually come to believe it. This is what has happened to Mudavadi. He has been hyped by the anti Raila media so much that he has come to believe the lies. He has been dubbed the “compromise candidate”, the “most acceptable”, can “beat Raila if he ditches ODM” etc. But I’m sorry that politics is not about these things.
Mudavadis exit could be a blessing in disguise especially for ODM and those who had all along been wishing that the party drops old baggage it inherited from Kanu. One can simply say that all the Moi orphans have now left ODM for good. And it sounds sweet in my ears.
One common denominator amongst these fellas is that none of them like completion because they have never competed with anyone or for anything and won fair and square. It does not come as a surprise that Mudavadi is headed for some fringe party where no one will face off with him. I’m sure that all the demands he has been putting on ODM will cease when he joins one of those little parties.
When Kajudas snatched the ODM_K certificate one would have thought that he would create some space for competition within that party. It never happened. He was simply anointed the sole leader and flag bearer. Never mind that Julia Ojiambo pretended to compete him.
The Ruto jumped into the scene claiming that there was no democracy in ODM. As far as I know he has not created any democratic space in URP either. He was simply forced on party members.
Najib Balala is still wondering in the wilderness looking for a “democratic home” where there is no competition. We will see where he lands.
The bottom line is that ODM is becoming more and more democratic and opening up for competition. This scares the hell out of some people who have been handed one or the other political position in a silver platter. The so called fallout within ODM is weeding out the kanu die hards. I guess it’s time they regrouped. All I know is that ODM has the best chance of forming the next government.
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Post by phil on Apr 13, 2012 10:12:12 GMT 3
Unless Odinga and Mudavadi are pulling the legs of the entire Nation, this ODM nomination saga could as well be the referendum Raila inferred to recently when he said the next elections would be choice between impunity and rule of law.
Remember that democracy does not know who is an impunist and who is not. It is the voters who do.
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Post by mzee on Apr 13, 2012 12:22:44 GMT 3
Good move on the part of the PM. Back to you Mudavadi www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/I+am+not+frustrating+Mudavadi+ODM+bid++says+Raila/-/1064/1385678/-/gy8861/-/index.html"....the Prime Minister is a democrat who recognises everyone’s right to exercise and enjoy his or her democratic rights and freedoms as laid out by the law. To this end, Hon. Mudavadi is quite in order to seek to be the ODM Presidential flag bearer," said the ODM National Director of Communications Barrack Muluka Friday "Surely, those who initiated the amendment process that is now on going are not strangers to these legal requirements?" wondered the PM "Let Kenyans judge for themselves who is being high handed and dictatorial in this matter. It should not be done with a gun placed against people’s heads as is being done," said Mr Odinga
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Post by fimbo on Apr 13, 2012 23:40:44 GMT 3
On the parliamentary elections, it will soon dawn on Mudavadi and these Western MPs that it is in their best interest to move enmass to one party, preferably ODM, to avoid serious re-election competition during the general elections.
This is the coup that Mudavadi needs to pull off to be taken seriously!!!
These MPs are so unpopular that ODM will not have difficulty recruiting very strong challengers among the cadre of ex-MPs and the Youths. On presidential elections, what’s the point, for Luhyas, to be running for the number three or four spot when they can influence who becomes number one, or two in the first round??
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Post by tabibu on Apr 14, 2012 22:23:35 GMT 3
Very interesting and even informative contributions so far. the one thing that really baffles me is why it took James Orengo's pointing out the party leader candidate clause for mudavadi to start demanding a change to the same. my question is, had he been so ignorant of the party constitution that he just hit the road campaigning without first lobbying to have the clause revised? prior to that meeting, his main pitch was actually the issue of where the party nominations should take place...i wonder how that can be a candidate's main campaign issue. ODM already gave a notice of intent to review its constitution to the registrar of political parties but this appears not to have pacified MM. did he in his mind think that changing the party constitution was a cut and paste matter? maybe that is actually what ought to have happened...cut and paste changes...submission of the papers including the party constitution....campaigns for the party nominee for presidential candidate...but just before the nominations have a member move to court to challenge the manner in which the constitutional ammendment was done...the court would, in my opinion rule that the change was not in keeping with the provisions of the ODM constitution and thus null and void...where would that have left Mudavadi?
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 16, 2012 0:41:58 GMT 3
Fimbo & Tabibu:
Did you know that I am kicking out everybody who has not confirmed their membership by Tuesday?
Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by mossad on Apr 16, 2012 2:45:32 GMT 3
How do we confirm membership @ Oloo?
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