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Post by reporter911 on May 5, 2012 17:37:45 GMT 3
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 5, 2012 22:00:44 GMT 3
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Post by okhunyanye on May 5, 2012 22:38:46 GMT 3
Who ferried them? What is the source of your information? Or is this only in your fertile mind? Raila supporters, apparently ferried from Nairobi, cause mayhem at Aladwa's funeral
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Post by okhunyanye on May 5, 2012 22:42:12 GMT 3
Not necessarily. He might end up being his own man and give the 'godfathers' a run for their money. Remember a similar scenario in Malawi a few years ago? IF HE WINS PREZO THEN HE WILL BE REMOTELY CONTROLLED BY HIS GODFATHERS
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Post by bob on May 5, 2012 22:54:24 GMT 3
Mwalimu...... there you go again, you seem to have info that we don't. So who exactly ferried this people. RAO? Common you can do better than that. Or is this what you guys are fond of doing that make you imagine it is beneficial to ferry people to cause mayhem. Ask your guy Khalwale? His speech was premeditated & was hell bent on trying to embarrass & ridicule the PM but that came to naught. Simple question why didn't the so called ferried goons cause mayhem when MM was addressing mourners yet he was there earlier? No amount of mud you will throw will add value to whoever is your preference for president?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 5, 2012 23:25:20 GMT 3
Mwalimu...... there you go again, you seem to have info that we don't. So who exactly ferried this people. RAO? Common you can do better than that. Or is this what you guys are fond of doing that make you imagine it is beneficial to ferry people to cause mayhem. Ask your guy Khalwale? His speech was premeditated & was hell bent on trying to embarrass & ridicule the PM but that came to naught. Simple question why didn't the so called ferried goons cause mayhem when MM was addressing mourners yet he was there earlier? No amount of mud you will throw will add value to whoever is your preference for president? www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2012/05/raila-supporters-heckle-mudavadi-in-his-sabatia-constituency/
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Post by raiswakesho on May 5, 2012 23:37:39 GMT 3
Mwalimumkuu
I personally think that it's in your best interest to openly vouch for your candidate of choice than being obsessed by the ones you don't like.
I don't condone the habit by our politicians to takeover funerals period but to kind slice and dice the ugly scene that I know you and I only watched on youtube since we weren't there is silly!
Maybe I expect too much from my colleagues and if that's the case then pls accept my apology.
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Post by bob on May 6, 2012 0:06:57 GMT 3
Mwalimu...... there you go again, you seem to have info that we don't. So who exactly ferried this people. RAO? Common you can do better than that. Or is this what you guys are fond of doing that make you imagine it is beneficial to ferry people to cause mayhem. Ask your guy Khalwale? His speech was premeditated & was hell bent on trying to embarrass & ridicule the PM but that came to naught. Simple question why didn't the so called ferried goons cause mayhem when MM was addressing mourners yet he was there earlier? No amount of mud you will throw will add value to whoever is your preference for president? www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2012/05/raila-supporters-heckle-mudavadi-in-his-sabatia-constituency/Baseless propaganda ''youths form Nairobi'' Only a fool would want to believe such crap. Kwani vijana wa Nairobi are that stupid not a chance.
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Post by akinyi2005 on May 6, 2012 0:35:17 GMT 3
why didn't he ferry his supporters from kisumu next door?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 6, 2012 0:56:24 GMT 3
Mwalimumkuu I personally think that it's in your best interest to openly vouch for your candidate of choice than being obsessed by the ones you don't like. I don't condone the habit by our politicians to takeover funerals period but to kind slice and dice the ugly scene that I know you and I only watched on youtube since we weren't there is silly! Maybe I expect too much from my colleagues and if that's the case then pls accept my apology. Rais,You must be a wo/man of very few ideas. You obviously have not heard about how one may skin a cat, have you? Meanwhile, your apology has been accepted unconditionally.
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Post by topnotch on May 6, 2012 8:42:51 GMT 3
seems UhuRuto is angry with their allies who attended the UDF. Mudavadi is now viewed as a Kalonzo-the hyena waiting for the swinging arm to fall off. We all know how that went.... "Mudavadi later came to parliament and pleaded with us to give him company and since he is friendly to everybody, we decided not to let him down" www.standardmedia.co.ke/standarddigitalworld/?articleID=2000057693
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Post by jakaswanga on May 6, 2012 17:13:54 GMT 3
seems UhuRuto is angry with their allies who attended the UDF. Mudavadi is now viewed as a Kalonzo-the hyena waiting for the swinging arm to fall off. We all know how that went.... "Mudavadi later came to parliament and pleaded with us to give him company and since he is friendly to everybody, we decided not to let him down" www.standardmedia.co.ke/standarddigitalworld/?articleID=2000057693A whole MP recieved a repremand from not even one of his constituents and voters, to explain what he was doing there? and WHO sent him there! That is when you really know you are owned, even if you deny it! No freedom of decision, no freedom of movement! dogs on a leash! well, Uhuru pays them for loyalty, does he not? Perhaps that oathing in public to swear unending obeisance to the ngai Muigai, is not a bad idea after all if, left to their designs, the dogs wander around with every party, a pheromone source!
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Post by adongo23456 on May 6, 2012 17:44:45 GMT 3
seems UhuRuto is angry with their allies who attended the UDF. Mudavadi is now viewed as a Kalonzo-the hyena waiting for the swinging arm to fall off. We all know how that went.... "Mudavadi later came to parliament and pleaded with us to give him company and since he is friendly to everybody, we decided not to let him down" www.standardmedia.co.ke/standarddigitalworld/?articleID=2000057693A whole MP recieved a repremand from not even one of his constituents and voters, to explain what he was doing there? and WHO sent him there! That is when you really know you are owned, even if you deny it! No freedom of decision, no freedom of movement! dogs on a leash! well, Uhuru pays them for loyalty, does he not? Perhaps that oathing in public to swear unending obeisance to the ngai Muigai, is not a bad idea after all if, left to their designs, the dogs wander around with every party, a pheromone source! Jakaswanga,This is just the beginning of the nightmare for Mudavadi. The same people who were sponsoring Uhuru and Ruto are the ones who have now opted for Mudavadi. The not so subtle message to Uhuru and Ruto is that they are cooked. Gone kabisa. The big boys know that and they are moving their bets elsewhere now rather than later. The poor M.Ps are of course clueless. They follow the money. What else can they do? This is going to be a messy battle. We haven't seen anything yet.
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Post by raiswakesho on May 6, 2012 17:47:52 GMT 3
Mwalimumkuu,
Rais is a youthful man with a desire to bring real change to Kenya...
All I'm asking of you is to approach issues with a sober mind and engage in positive criticism. I maybe wrong but I thought this forum isn't a campaign machine but a medium for members to discuss political & socio-economic issues facing the motherland as they unfold... Now constantly attacking those who we disagree with politically with lies, isn't helpful at all.
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Post by raiswakesho on May 6, 2012 17:59:07 GMT 3
MM has taken the biggest risk he'll ever have to take in his political life which promises the biggest return or the biggest loss and only time will tell. If we were dealing with commodities, some hedging would have been appropriate!
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Post by mzee on May 6, 2012 18:02:28 GMT 3
Mudavadi will get a few weeks of good press but sooner or later he has to move away from being a Raila former running mate to the leader of udf. Basing a whole campaign on, I was being insulted, won't wash. When is he going to put forward the policies of his new party?
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Post by adongo23456 on May 6, 2012 18:21:43 GMT 3
Mudavadi will get a few weeks of good press but sooner or later he has to move away from being a Raila former running mate to the leader of udf. Basing a whole campaign on, I was being insulted, won't wash. When is he going to put forward the policies of his new party? mzee,What policies? Mudavadi's primary policy seems to be to help get rid of Raila so that we can have a "a fresh new start" of the Moi era. That is what he said when he recieved " a hero's welcome" in Afraha stadium. I can't see the welcoming crowd. I am going to get my glasses. This is Muda and he got exactly what he was asking for from Barack Muluka. Mudavadi even had the nerve to blame Raila on the despicable behaviour of Khalwale at a funeral yesterday. This is political stupidity at its worst. Here we go?: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Prepare+to+retire+Mudavadi+tells+PM+Odinga/-/1064/1400512/-/mijki5/-/index.html
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 6, 2012 18:33:26 GMT 3
Mwalimumkuu, Rais is a youthful man with a desire to bring real change to Kenya... All I'm asking of you is to approach issues with a sober mind and engage in positive criticism. I maybe wrong but I thought this forum isn't a campaign machine but a medium for members to discuss political & socio-economic issues facing the motherland as they unfold... Now constantly attacking those who we disagree with politically with lies, isn't helpful at all. Rais, My friend, if you are going to a funeral and send the whole burial program in disarray, see women and children scampering in all directions for safety and threaten to run over the dead's coffin in the name of youth and change, we shall call you out. We shall tell you that you are behaving badly. It may make you unhappy, but that is how it is. I don't know where you come from, but where I come from, and I guess it applies to entire humanity, the dead are just respected as the living are. We go to funerals to condole and console the bereaved, and pray for the soul of departed, not to show our poltical might and how youthful and change-oriented we are, it is not a political contest but a funeral my friend.
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Post by mzee on May 6, 2012 18:33:38 GMT 3
Adongo I think that someone has told Mudavadi that he will get attention if he keeps mentioning Railas name. It's perhaps the only name that sells. Look at akina Ruto, they sleep walk Raila. But this is a road walked before and kenyans, thanks to the uhuruto mob understand it.
Stopping Raila is an obsession that has destroyed countless carriers and I don't think that Mudavadis will be different. Let him ask moi
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Post by adongo23456 on May 6, 2012 18:50:18 GMT 3
Adongo I think that someone has told Mudavadi that he will get attention if he keeps mentioning Railas name. It's perhaps the only name that sells. Look at akina Ruto, they sleep walk Raila. But this is a road walked before and kenyans, thanks to the uhuruto mob understand it. Stopping Raila is an obsession that has destroyed countless carriers and I don't think that Mudavadis will be different. Let him ask moi I know but Mudavadi looked rather pathetic in Nakuru. His handlers and sponsors have to give him more material to work with. The anti-Raila gig has its limits. Running a presidential campaign is no walk in the park. Mudavadi has started rather weakly as expected. People they pay to think for them need to help him.
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Post by mzee on May 6, 2012 18:58:35 GMT 3
Adongo, When you are a project you only do what you are told. But that is Mudavadis headache to solve. Yes, he looked rather bad in Nakuru, I hope that he will do better than this otherwise he is toast. If Raila is still going toe to toe with him in sabatia then he should be a worried man. Banking on uhuruto incarceration will prove to be a fatal mistake.
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Post by mastersugu on May 6, 2012 19:03:36 GMT 3
A true sincere leader never dwells on personalities in a campaign. Leadership is to lead a fellowship objectively. What influence does Mudavadi hold on kenyan's? Is he not one of the famed "Moi orphans"? What does MM know about struggle, going hungry for days and lacking basic necessities? MM should by now know that he has a murky past before he embarks on chanting and ranting about Raila who basically helped re-brand him. Focusing on Raila will kill his perceived charisma and survival politically.
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Post by mzee on May 6, 2012 19:50:30 GMT 3
I like this from Muluku really crisp,
“If there is any “wrong” the premier has previously committed, it has been to redeem and polish up a conservative ingrate who had been dumped into the dustbin of history and given him a fresh lease of political life,”
It looks as if Mudavadi is basing campaign on "humility" and "anti-Raila" rhetoric. This will sooner or later get exhausted.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jun 1, 2012 7:25:14 GMT 3
Ever since Mudavadi quit ODM, he for the first time goes back to Western Kenya, his home tomorrow, to campaign for the presidency. All indications are that it will be a mother of all rallies.
It will be remembered that Mudavadi outfoxed ODM last weekend by duping them that he would be holding campaign rallies in Western then, only to clarify the last minute that he did not have any such event planned, long after ODM had moved in.
He now has a chance for the last laugh by undoing gains, if any that ODM might have made during their visit. Mudavadi will be buoyed by the sweet victory that together with Ruto and their allies scored against their nemesis in parliament yesterday, thus demonstrating how impotent ODM has become.
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Post by morimax on Jun 1, 2012 8:16:56 GMT 3
Ever since Mudavadi quit ODM, he for the first time goes back to Western Kenya, his home tomorrow, to campaign for the presidency. All indications are that it will be a mother of all rallies. It will be remembered that Mudavadi outfoxed ODM last weekend by duping them that he would be holding campaign rallies in Western then, only to clarify the last minute that he did not have any such event planned, long after ODM had moved in. He now has a chance for the last laugh by undoing gains, if any that ODM might have made during their visit. Mudavadi will be buoyed by the sweet victory that together with Ruto and their allies scored against their nemesis in parliament yesterday, thus demonstrating how impotent ODM has become. Hahahahahahahahh. Which last laugh are you talking about, when he could not face out RAO in his own backyard for that so called 'popularity contest'? talk of a coward, hiding under the bed only to come out after the opponent is gone and to cry to mummy and to exaggerate how he would have beaten the opponent. What do expect from mummy? to scorn the cowardly boy? no I don't think so. Mummy will have to encourage his boy's couragious imaginations. In his his dream. ehehehehehehehehehe. last laugh.
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