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Post by malkia on Aug 23, 2012 13:33:01 GMT 3
At Kisumu Hotel at a workshop and protectors just left after having gathered outside and I hear (cannot confirm) surrounded the Hotel after allegations that Miguna Miguna was here. (I say allegation since I did not see him). I understand from one of the staff that the Police have evacuated him from the Hotel but ODM has serious problems if they will tolerate this level of intolerance. I was actually afraid for my own safety and can only imagine what Miguna is going through. For those of you advising ODM, you need to adopt a public position that doesn't tolerate violence on behalf or or in defense of your candidates, Presidential or otherwise. If not for the benefit of Kenyans then for the benefit of your candidates because at this rate your candidates may be implicated (rightly or wrongly) should, god forbid, anything happen to Miguna. If left unchecked this will end badly.
If anyone knows where Miguna will be in the area please update the board.
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Post by mugabe on Aug 23, 2012 15:24:51 GMT 3
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Post by mugabe on Aug 23, 2012 15:28:37 GMT 3
Mind you there is a lot of hate comments in the Kenyan post article. Incendiary headline but beyond pathetic comments. Who publishes this junk?
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Post by phil on Aug 23, 2012 15:56:52 GMT 3
Kenya Post is a personal blog.
However, unconfirmed sources tell me Miguna is presently under siege at the Lake side town after (YES!) provoking the public by using insulting terms due to their past voting patterns.
Miguna, am told, has had to be evacuated by the police from Kisumu Hotel after management became jittery about his presence there but even then is still not safe where he is currently being held and reinforcements have been called from outlying police stations.
Update and confimation later.
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Post by denno on Aug 23, 2012 16:34:41 GMT 3
Whether one agrees with Miguna or not does not negate the fact the he, Miguna has freedom of speech and association. It's quite disheartening to see the hatred spewed against him. If what is happening in Ksm is true, then it goes to reinforce the stereotype that the Luo are a rowdy mob that believes in stone throwing. It also reinforces the propaganda that the Luos will disregard the law once one of their own is at the helm.
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Post by phil on Aug 23, 2012 17:07:37 GMT 3
MIGUNA GETS HOSTILE RECEPTION IN HIS HOME CITY
Posted on Thursday 23 August 2012 - 15:47 By MAURICE ALAL
Miguna Miguna of the controversial book'' PEELING BACK THE MASK'' got a rude reception in Kisumu city when a charged audience shouted him down forcing the former aid to Kenya's Prime Minister Raila Odinga to cut short his speech.
Miguna had to be escorted back to his hotel room by heavily armed security personnel after the audience began heckling him while others bayed for his blood over what they claimed was a scheme hatched by Raila's political rivals to undermine him in his quest for the country's presidency.
Miguna had successfully addressed the gathering of an estimated 500 people for about half an hour when all hell broke loose in the lake side city, a few kilometers from his native home at Ahero in Nyando district of Kisumu county.
It was Miguna's first visit to the city to popularize his controversial book which has stirred political sentiments from across the divide in the East African nation since it was launched in July this year in Kenya's capital Nairobi.
During his speech, Miguna who advised Raila on coalition matters for close to four years castigated his former boss claiming he was surrounded by corrupt individuals with whom he worked closely while serving in the PM's office before he was unceremoniously kicked out in August last year.
'' I made Raila what he is today. I wrote every speech he read and developed strategies which he continues to use to date'' he asserted.
It appeared his audience who sat patiently while listening to his remarks did not like the persistent attacks aimed at the PM and Orange Democratic Movement Party (ODM) which enjoys huge following in country currently going by various opinion polls.
Tempers flared when Miguna claimed that people of Luo Nyanza his native tribe where Raila hails from have failed to vet those they elect into political offices every five years regardless of their under-performance.
'' You have been reduced to mere voting machines similar to robots without evaluating capabilities of such people,'' he remarked.
It was at this point when things turned chaotic leaving the security personnel in the hall with no options but to hurriedly whisk him away to safety.
All the while crowds kept building up outside the hotel as word spread fast about Miguna’s presence.
It took quick intervention by the hawk eyed security officers led by the local district commissioner, Willy Cheboi to save the situation from degenerating into an all out confrontation.
As the crowd grew larger outside, the police had to use the back door of the posh hotel in a dramatic escape bid similar to those seen only in Hollywood movies.
As the police car sped off with Miguna sandwiched between two heavily armed and mean looking police officers, the crowds refused to disperse even after the local police boss pleaded with them to do so.
A chase car full of anti riot contingent was in hot pursuit with their guns cocked as Miguna's police escape car vanished.
However it was not immediately clear whether Miguna's planned promotion of the book would continue in the region going by the hostile reception he met in Kisumu on Thursday.
The incident comes barely a month after his effigy was burnt by furious demonstrators at Ahero, his home town. This was to demonstrate their anger against the book which largely projected Raila and officers in his office as corrupt and not worthy of leadership.
Miguna on his part has since dared those who feel offended by his book to meet him in court where he will battle it out with them. END.
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Post by tnk on Aug 23, 2012 21:43:34 GMT 3
its a bit comical
you call people fools and then still want them to listen to you calmly and further buy the materials in which you are calling them fools
now thats a remarkable marketing strategy
common (commercial/revenue) sense, dictates that the product should be marketed where its most popular
unless of course that this is not about sales but some sly political mission in which case he should call it for what it is. in any case whatever crusade he is on, there are far much better methods than this.
anyhow what one sows, one reaps. the same bully mentality/belligerence he exhibits is what he gets in return.
pity though that the local MP is the one that sets/mobilizes the rowdy crowds. where is kibunja. such MPs have no place in society.
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Post by roughrider on Aug 23, 2012 22:11:41 GMT 3
its a bit comical you call people fools and then still want them to listen to you calmly and further buy the materials in which you are calling them fools now thats a remarkable marketing strategy common (commercial/revenue) sense, dictates that the product should be marketed where its most popular unless of course that this is not about sales but some sly political mission in which case he should call it for what it is. in any case whatever crusade he is on, there are far much better methods than this. anyhow what one sows, one reaps. the same bully mentality/belligerence he exhibits is what he gets in return. pity though that the local MP is the one that sets/mobilizes the rowdy crowds. where is kibunja. such MPs have no place in society. The 'madman' and his retinue deserved a thorough beating. They went there to promote a book and instead veered into hurling insults at an entire community. Wasn't this the same man who campaigned most for the leaders we voted in? Was he also a robot then? I agree with you. Miguna and his handlers had hoped that Kisumu people would be rowdy. But lo and behold, there was a peaceful crowd, listening patiently and asking probing questions that he could not answer. This wasn’t the script he had come with. So he resorted inciting folks. Note the VIP security, NSIS back-up, police complete with riot gear, chase cars, deep financial resources (they spend more marketing the book than what is bought!) and other equipment now available at the disposal of the same person who was at logger heads with police over 'Mercy Keino' and 'Sammy Wanjiru' cold cases.
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Post by tnk on Aug 23, 2012 22:29:57 GMT 3
its a bit comical you call people fools and then still want them to listen to you calmly and further buy the materials in which you are calling them fools now thats a remarkable marketing strategy common (commercial/revenue) sense, dictates that the product should be marketed where its most popular unless of course that this is not about sales but some sly political mission in which case he should call it for what it is. in any case whatever crusade he is on, there are far much better methods than this. anyhow what one sows, one reaps. the same bully mentality/belligerence he exhibits is what he gets in return. pity though that the local MP is the one that sets/mobilizes the rowdy crowds. where is kibunja. such MPs have no place in society. The 'madman' and his retinue deserved a thorough beating. They went there to promote a book and instead veered into hurling insults at an entire community. Wasn't this the same man who campaigned most for the leaders we voted in? Was he also a robot then? I agree with you. Miguna and his handlers had hoped that Kisumu people would be rowdy. But lo and behold, there was a peaceful crowd, listening patiently and asking probing questions that he could not answer. This wasn’t the script he had come with. So he resorted inciting folks. Note the VIP security, NSIS back-up, police complete with riot gear, chase cars, deep financial resources (they spend more marketing the book than what is bought!) and other equipment now available at the disposal of the same person who was at logger heads with police over 'Mercy Keino' and 'Sammy Wanjiru' cold cases. rr the issue of spending several thousands on intimidation logistics is amusing why not just prepay for some say 500 books and avail these for free to strategic venues or buy one get one half off or free anyway here is another take on what happened in Nakuru allafrica.com/stories/201208230244.html
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 23, 2012 23:54:36 GMT 3
its a bit comical you call people fools and then still want them to listen to you calmly and further buy the materials in which you are calling them fools now thats a remarkable marketing strategy common (commercial/revenue) sense, dictates that the product should be marketed where its most popular unless of course that this is not about sales but some sly political mission in which case he should call it for what it is. in any case whatever crusade he is on, there are far much better methods than this. anyhow what one sows, one reaps. the same bully mentality/belligerence he exhibits is what he gets in return. pity though that the local MP is the one that sets/mobilizes the rowdy crowds. where is kibunja. such MPs have no place in society. The 'madman' and his retinue deserved a thorough beating. They went there to promote a book and instead veered into hurling insults at an entire community. Wasn't this the same man who campaigned most for the leaders we voted in? Was he also a robot then? I agree with you. Miguna and his handlers had hoped that Kisumu people would be rowdy. But lo and behold, there was a peaceful crowd, listening patiently and asking probing questions that he could not answer. This wasn’t the script he had come with. So he resorted inciting folks. Note the VIP security, NSIS back-up, police complete with riot gear, chase cars, deep financial resources (they spend more marketing the book than what is bought!) and other equipment now available at the disposal of the same person who was at logger heads with police over 'Mercy Keino' and 'Sammy Wanjiru' cold cases. Jacob Owiti | NATION Former Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s adviser Miguna Miguna puts on a brave face after an attempt to market his political memoirs at a Kisumu hotel aborted on August 23, 2012. Nation Media Groupwww.nation.co.ke/News/Miguna+whisked+as+youths+disrupt+his+book+promotion+/-/1056/1486068/-/uoq9o4/-/index.html
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Post by gateway on Aug 24, 2012 0:00:29 GMT 3
Now that I have my latest supply of my favorite herb, and a new pipe, I want to PONDER loudly. Why would anyone in his right mind want to go selling books to "ROBOTS"? Who is the fool here?? The "robots" or the seller? Now let me LIGHT up my incense and save my soul from the nuisance. My conscience is about to be uplifted away from these non sense. This I know about MY PEOPLE. "Silver and Gold have they NONE, but what THEY have they FREELY give, STONES BABY, STONES".
If you want to kick the tiger in his ass... you'd better have a plan for dealing with his teeth!"--Tom Clancy ;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 24, 2012 0:22:04 GMT 3
The 'madman' and his retinue deserved a thorough beating. They went there to promote a book and instead veered into hurling insults at an entire community. Wasn't this the same man who campaigned most for the leaders we voted in? Was he also a robot then? I agree with you. Miguna and his handlers had hoped that Kisumu people would be rowdy. But lo and behold, there was a peaceful crowd, listening patiently and asking probing questions that he could not answer. This wasn’t the script he had come with. So he resorted inciting folks. Note the VIP security, NSIS back-up, police complete with riot gear, chase cars, deep financial resources (they spend more marketing the book than what is bought!) and other equipment now available at the disposal of the same person who was at logger heads with police over 'Mercy Keino' and 'Sammy Wanjiru' cold cases. rr the issue of spending several thousands on intimidation logistics is amusing why not just prepay for some say 500 books and avail these for free to strategic venues or buy one get one half off or free anyway here is another take on what happened in Nakuru allafrica.com/stories/201208230244.html allafrica.com/stories/201208230244.htmlKenyans are asking the right question! Miguna has difficulty answering them.. ;D ;D ivyo tu
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Post by tnk on Aug 24, 2012 0:55:51 GMT 3
i have been willing to accord miguna some benefit of doubt, but it would appear more and more that this is pointing to the problem of "the first lie" once a person tells their first lie, then out of necessity, everythime they are asked about it, they must keep inventing new and even more fascinating lies to cover up the first lie, and this continues ad nauseum so far (at book launch) - we heard he has some yet undocumented explosive dossier on the PEV saga (on return from canada at airport) - that he is (potentially) an ICC witness in nakuru - it is that he (possibly) gave testimony to the Waki commission in camera not looking good at all on a light note however, these attention seeking gimmicks remind of a great pepsi ad here we go moral of story, ... anyone ...
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Post by Omwenga on Aug 24, 2012 1:36:53 GMT 3
At Kisumu Hotel at a workshop and protectors just left after having gathered outside and I hear (cannot confirm) surrounded the Hotel after allegations that Miguna Miguna was here. (I say allegation since I did not see him). I understand from one of the staff that the Police have evacuated him from the Hotel but ODM has serious problems if they will tolerate this level of intolerance. I was actually afraid for my own safety and can only imagine what Miguna is going through. For those of you advising ODM, you need to adopt a public position that doesn't tolerate violence on behalf or or in defense of your candidates, Presidential or otherwise. If not for the benefit of Kenyans then for the benefit of your candidates because at this rate your candidates may be implicated (rightly or wrongly) should, god forbid, anything happen to Miguna. If left unchecked this will end badly. If anyone knows where Miguna will be in the area please update the board. Malkia, You say, "ODM has serious problems if they will tolerate this level of intolerance" and that "For those of you advising ODM, you need to adopt a public position that doesn't tolerate violence on behalf or or in defense of your candidates, Presidential or otherwise." I take your sentiments to be genuine; had some usual suspects said the same thing, I would have had to take them with the usual dismissal as not being genuine but yet another dig of Raila and ODM. Because you're not the only one saying this--I have heard similar sentiments elsewhere, I would like to pen something in response based on what I know but time does not allow for now. Look for a blog soon addressing your sentiment and more importantly, pointing out the dangers inherent in having or raising such concerns. Meanwhile, here is what I posted on my blog about this "book tour." Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself, so goes a popular political refrain many successfully heed. I applaud the Kisumu police for making sure no scene occurred beyond what did, which I am sure Miguna and his handlers were hoping it did. He can now move on to the rest of the country where there will be little or no confrontation. In some areas, he will be welcome with wide arms--and even complete with red carpet. But Kisumu and what they had hoped to milk it for is over--but not completely as I would not be surprised if they don't plot to return or give it another crack. In case you are wondering what I am talking about, I posit Kisumu was deliberately selected so that if there was a serious incident, it would have become a fuse to activate this volcano that has proven to be so stubbornly dormant and not activatable at all. If that didn't work, nothing else will. Update: I said here before and would repeat Raila could not have been more fortunate to have Miguna as the former aide who wrote this book for the man is not only self-destructing before our own eyes, he is also doing a good job in making him the character of interest in connection with his book, not Raila or his other real or perceived enemies. Napoleon once said never interfere with an enemy while he is in the process of destructing himself and this counsel has been gleefully applied in all kinds of political settings much to the chagrin of those self-destructing. Miguna is self-destructing there is no need for Raila, ODM or any of his targets to interfere or help him at all. Let them watch from a distance and even enjoy the charade. Supporters should also be encouraged to watch from a distance. They definitely should not do anything that Miguna and his handlers are salivating they do so that they may pounce on it in hopes to revive this dead horse. When it's all said and done, however, Miguna would have actually helped Raila get reelected. That's true odd as it may sound because it's Miguna we are talking about. A Miguna sycophant posted on the Internet how there was a crowd of 500 at the Kisumu venue naively or ignorantly trying to create the impression this means something to write home about; it's not. As one blogger responded, he (the blogger and staunch ODM) was among those in the audience. I always laugh when I hear this fallacious touting of how many people were at some audience--and this really applies even to rallies as well because those doing the touting forget or assume everyone there is there because they love them and can't wait to hug and kiss them. False. Many may be there as in this case just curious to have a peak at the madman. It's no different a phenomena than this: Madman Thrills Crowd, In other words, even a madman draws a crowd.
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Post by reporter911 on Aug 24, 2012 2:23:08 GMT 3
What other proof do Kenyans need to show that Miguna is a Uhuru Project? Who is Onyango Oloo? he is Uhuru's party's Chairman- rumour has it now handling Miguna's book campaign all over Kenya....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out of Uhuru's smear campaign funds List Uhuru's dream compaign TeamJohnson Sakaja from Western is listed as the party's chairman, Onyango Oloo from Nyanza as the secretary general, Wambui Gichuru from Central as Treasurer, and Mr. Billiaha from the Coast as Organising Secretary. Moses Kuria, who has resigned as PNU spokesman, is likely to become TNA's Executive Director. Uhuru, the MP for Gatundu South, believed that APK and UDF represented the past that he wants to shed off. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/74264-uhuru-joins-national-alliance-party
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Post by tnk on Aug 24, 2012 2:33:32 GMT 3
well well
some people hire expert marketing companies to run their promos/campaigns
bw. advisor hires guys with AK47 to help him market a book
if anything, this just shows the need to hire professional marketing teams well ahead. they at least will not go out abusing their potential customers.
man, am wondering what this "advisor" role is really about. where are other advisors?
can somebody verify
were both OO's there, i.e of jukwaa and TNA
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Post by johns on Aug 24, 2012 3:03:30 GMT 3
Is there anybody out there who still in doubt that Miguna is indeed A mad man in the literal sense of the word?. I am bound to make this assertion after reading what he actually said in Kisumu to those who had come to lend him their time and ear and listen to what he had to say about his book
Patiently they listened as he went into his diatribe and tirade about Raila Odinga. The man even took credit for making Raila Odinga the person he is today. Lordy! How does a person who met Raila Odinga for the first time in 2006 make such a preposterous claim and expect to be believed?
If I can recollect I met Raila Odinga first time in the early 80s when he was already made and known for his beliefs and that’s why Moi detained him. Not once but three times and I believe Miguna must have been coming out of adolescent then. But that was not all of what Miguna claimed he has knowledge of; he for the first time made known to all who were listening that they were fools and robotic in nature with the way they had voted in the past. It made me thinking and I asked myself; whom did Miguna vote for in the 2007 presidential election? Was he then robotic when he made the choice to vote for his person of choice?
Or put it the other way, did the Nyando constituents reject Miguna because they were told so by the person Miguna had attached his hip with and who at the time was the love of his life and his deity? How confused and idiotic can one sound before one gets committed for a psychiatric evaluation? I think those who have been cheering Miguna on hoping that he is onto something good better evaluate their own brains, this man is approaching a “kuku” stage and I say this with a lot of sadness, knowing what the man once was
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Post by deyiengs on Aug 24, 2012 7:20:42 GMT 3
Could not have been said any better. Thanks Johns. They guy has huge issues and so are the people who drive his agenda. Some are right here in Jukwaa, what a waste.... Kumbe Onyango Oloo (TNA) is his side kick these days!? Wow! Is there anybody out there who still in doubt that Miguna is indeed A mad man in the literal sense of the word?. I am bound to make this assertion after reading what he actually said in Kisumu to those who had come to lend him their time and ear and listen to what he had to say about his book
Patiently they listened as he went into his diatribe and tirade about Raila Odinga. The man even took credit for making Raila Odinga the person he is today. Lordy! How does a person who met Raila Odinga for the first time in 2006 make such a preposterous claim and expect to be believed?
If I can recollect I met Raila Odinga first time in the early 80s when he was already made and known for his beliefs and that’s why Moi detained him. Not once but three times and I believe Miguna must have been coming out of adolescent then. But that was not all of what Miguna claimed he has knowledge of; he for the first time made known to all who were listening that they were fools and robotic in nature with the way they had voted in the past. It made me thinking and I asked myself; whom did Miguna vote for in the 2007 presidential election? Was he then robotic when he made the choice to vote for his person of choice?
Or put it the other way, did the Nyando constituents reject Miguna because they were told so by the person Miguna had attached his hip with and who at the time was the love of his life and his deity? How confused and idiotic can one sound before one gets committed for a psychiatric evaluation? I think those who have been cheering Miguna on hoping that he is onto something good better evaluate their own brains, this man is approaching a “kuku” stage and I say this with a lot of sadness, knowing what the man once was
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Post by phil on Aug 24, 2012 8:44:21 GMT 3
Jukwaa has now seen and the whole world is witness at how Miguna is shamelessly being used as a state project. Book promotion my @ss!
We predicted how Miguna would issue inflamatory statements in Kisumu, a city in which nearly all communities of Kenya live and vote in. Not only was the speech geared towards inciting Kisumu residents against Raila Odinga and ODM, Miguna went as far as insulting the voters of Kisumu and the wider Nyanza.
As we all saw, Miguna was going around with state bodyguards including armed Kenya Police which gave him the confidence that nothing could touch him and his tour in Kisumu was actually being co-ordinated by provincial administration, by no less a person than Kisumu DC Williy Cheboi accompanied by the Kisumu OCPD. These are the senior most government employees in town - people who report directly to the PS at Internal Security Ministry and by extension Civil Service Boss Francis Kimemia at Office of the President.
Let's cut the chase folks. Miguna is hardly promoting his book. Miguna is doing dirty work for the powers that be. The same ones who paid to get the book published, the same ones who financed his holiday to Canada, the same ones who are paying for his country-wide promotional tour. The funny thing is that he might not even know that he is being used.
What a hoax Miguna and some of these so called reformers have turned out to be. Thank God, Nyando voters had the foresight to reject him in 2007.
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Post by b6k on Aug 24, 2012 9:15:25 GMT 3
At Kisumu Hotel at a workshop and protectors just left after having gathered outside and I hear (cannot confirm) surrounded the Hotel after allegations that Miguna Miguna was here. (I say allegation since I did not see him). I understand from one of the staff that the Police have evacuated him from the Hotel but ODM has serious problems if they will tolerate this level of intolerance. I was actually afraid for my own safety and can only imagine what Miguna is going through. For those of you advising ODM, you need to adopt a public position that doesn't tolerate violence on behalf or or in defense of your candidates, Presidential or otherwise. If not for the benefit of Kenyans then for the benefit of your candidates because at this rate your candidates may be implicated (rightly or wrongly) should, god forbid, anything happen to Miguna. If left unchecked this will end badly. If anyone knows where Miguna will be in the area please update the board. Malkia, You say, "ODM has serious problems if they will tolerate this level of intolerance" and that "For those of you advising ODM, you need to adopt a public position that doesn't tolerate violence on behalf or or in defense of your candidates, Presidential or otherwise." I take your sentiments to be genuine; had some usual suspects said the same thing, I would have had to take them with the usual dismissal as not being genuine but yet another dig of Raila and ODM. Because you're not the only one saying this--I have heard similar sentiments elsewhere, I would like to pen something in response based on what I know but time does not allow for now. Look for a blog soon addressing your sentiment and more importantly, pointing out the dangers inherent in having or raising such concerns. Meanwhile, here is what I posted on my blog about this "book tour." Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself, so goes a popular political refrain many successfully heed. I applaud the Kisumu police for making sure no scene occurred beyond what did, which I am sure Miguna and his handlers were hoping it did. He can now move on to the rest of the country where there will be little or no confrontation. In some areas, he will be welcome with wide arms--and even complete with red carpet. But Kisumu and what they had hoped to milk it for is over--but not completely as I would not be surprised if they don't plot to return or give it another crack. In case you are wondering what I am talking about, I posit Kisumu was deliberately selected so that if there was a serious incident, it would have become a fuse to activate this volcano that has proven to be so stubbornly dormant and not activatable at all. If that didn't work, nothing else will. Update: I said here before and would repeat Raila could not have been more fortunate to have Miguna as the former aide who wrote this book for the man is not only self-destructing before our own eyes, he is also doing a good job in making him the character of interest in connection with his book, not Raila or his other real or perceived enemies. Napoleon once said never interfere with an enemy while he is in the process of destructing himself and this counsel has been gleefully applied in all kinds of political settings much to the chagrin of those self-destructing. Miguna is self-destructing there is no need for Raila, ODM or any of his targets to interfere or help him at all. Let them watch from a distance and even enjoy the charade. Supporters should also be encouraged to watch from a distance. They definitely should not do anything that Miguna and his handlers are salivating they do so that they may pounce on it in hopes to revive this dead horse. When it's all said and done, however, Miguna would have actually helped Raila get reelected. That's true odd as it may sound because it's Miguna we are talking about. A Miguna sycophant posted on the Internet how there was a crowd of 500 at the Kisumu venue naively or ignorantly trying to create the impression this means something to write home about; it's not. As one blogger responded, he (the blogger and staunch ODM) was among those in the audience. I always laugh when I hear this fallacious touting of how many people were at some audience--and this really applies even to rallies as well because those doing the touting forget or assume everyone there is there because they love them and can't wait to hug and kiss them. False. Many may be there as in this case just curious to have a peak at the madman. It's no different a phenomena than this: Madman Thrills Crowd, In other words, even a madman draws a crowd. Omwenga, i agree with you the cops did a commendable job separating Miguna from the crowd he insulted. As for the crowds & not everyone being "in your corner" methinks the same can be said about the ODM crowds. After all in a country where the great majority live without entertainment, a political rally of ANY persuasion creates a good diversion from their ordinary lives. Not everyone is there because they love the speaker. Truer words have never been spoken...
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Post by cheshirecat on Aug 24, 2012 9:20:01 GMT 3
Jukwaa has now seen and the whole world is witness at how Miguna is shamelessly being used as a state project. Book promotion my @ss! We predicted how Miguna would issue inflamatory statements in Kisumu, a city in which nearly all communities of Kenya live and vote in. Not only was the speech geared towards inciting Kisumu residents against Raila Odinga and ODM, Miguna went as far as insulting the voters of Kisumu and the wider Nyanza. As we all saw, Miguna was going around with state bodyguards including armed Kenya Police which gave him the confidence that nothing could touch him and his tour in Kisumu was actually being co-ordinated by provincial administration, by no less a person than Kisumu DC Williy Cheboi accompanied by the Kisumu OCPD. These are the senior most government employees in town - people who report directly to the PS at Internal Security Ministry and by extension Civil Service Boss Francis Kimemia at Office of the President. Let's cut the chase folks. Miguna is hardly promoting his book. Miguna is doing dirty work for the powers that be. The same ones who paid to get the book published, the same ones who financed his holiday to Canada, the same ones who are paying for his country-wide promotional tour. The funny thing is that he might not even know that he is being used. What a hoax Miguna and some of these so called reformers have turned out to be. Thank God, Nyando voters had the foresight to reject him in 2007. So now that Raila also has state protection and policemen around him, are we to infer that he is also in-fact a state project? Some arguments are so infantile.
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Post by phil on Aug 24, 2012 9:26:47 GMT 3
Sample this.
Miguna: “I heard Tobiko was looking for me ...Where is he now that am back? If his intention was to create fear in me, then he is mistaken".
The manner in which Miguna is going about daring the Director of Public Prosecution only goes further to confirm the powers that are standing behind Miguna. Tobiko's inaction and silence speaks volumes too.
Tobiko had ordered the police to record Miguna's statement soon after releasing his book when he alleged that he knew more about ODM's involvement in planning for post election violence. Miguna fled the country before police could record his statement.
Now that he is back, isnt it ironic that it is the same police that are giving him 24hour security? Did Tobiko's order to police expire? What exactly is going on?
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Post by b6k on Aug 24, 2012 9:28:01 GMT 3
well well some people hire expert marketing companies to run their promos/campaigns bw. advisor hires guys with AK47 to help him market a book if anything, this just shows the need to hire professional marketing teams well ahead. they at least will not go out abusing their potential customers. man, am wondering what this "advisor" role is really about. where are other advisors? can somebody verify were both OO's there, i.e of jukwaa and TNA TNK, actually I believe the show of force was necessary given the crowd was irked, justifiably so, by Miguna insulting their intelligence. Just looking at how bwana DC is sweating bullets & no doubt crapping bricks in his pants. Such a thing cannot be easy & as eyewitness Malkia of Jukwaa pointed out anyone in their right mind would've feared for their safety given the mood of the mob. Everyone, that is, except Miguna. The guy is unhinged & has always been so. He had to be forced away by the security folks as he seemed intent to continue on what would've only ended up being a suicide mission (& costing the lives of those who were unfortunate enough to be sent their to protect his behind). For him to say he "made Raila" is comedy of the highest order. The interesting thing is, why isn't Raila suing his former aide if everything he said is a lie? There must be some kernels of truth in the diary of a madman after all....
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Post by b6k on Aug 24, 2012 9:36:31 GMT 3
Jukwaa has now seen and the whole world is witness at how Miguna is shamelessly being used as a state project. Book promotion my @ss! We predicted how Miguna would issue inflamatory statements in Kisumu, a city in which nearly all communities of Kenya live and vote in. Not only was the speech geared towards inciting Kisumu residents against Raila Odinga and ODM, Miguna went as far as insulting the voters of Kisumu and the wider Nyanza. As we all saw, Miguna was going around with state bodyguards including armed Kenya Police which gave him the confidence that nothing could touch him and his tour in Kisumu was actually being co-ordinated by provincial administration, by no less a person than Kisumu DC Williy Cheboi accompanied by the Kisumu OCPD. These are the senior most government employees in town - people who report directly to the PS at Internal Security Ministry and by extension Civil Service Boss Francis Kimemia at Office of the President. Let's cut the chase folks. Miguna is hardly promoting his book. Miguna is doing dirty work for the powers that be. The same ones who paid to get the book published, the same ones who financed his holiday to Canada, the same ones who are paying for his country-wide promotional tour. The funny thing is that he might not even know that he is being used. What a hoax Miguna and some of these so called reformers have turned out to be. Thank God, Nyando voters had the foresight to reject him in 2007. So now that Raila also has state protection and policemen around him, are we to infer that he is also in-fact a state project? Some arguments are so infantile. ;D ;D ;D ;D In ODM's universe, everyone opposed to RAO is a project. Project happens to be the "loaded" word that ODM reloaded will bandy out to the other side forgetting full well RAO is a project of the western powers (& I don't mean Western Kenya)...
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Post by phil on Aug 24, 2012 9:54:21 GMT 3
if only you guys could address issues....miguna is not prime minister. why equate him to Raila?
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