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Post by joblesscorner on Nov 7, 2012 20:43:17 GMT 3
Jukwaa Karl Rove,
one word PROTOCOL, it is the highest seat in KENYA, you follow the protocol, When the PM came to the US, He did the same thing trying to visit the white house, without following the proper channels.
Kofi was EXPECTED not confirmed. As Miguna said there is no protocol in PM office, you can see anytime, that is why he is each and every Funeral in Kenya, every weekend.
On a Sidenote,
I think the PM gave one of the oustanding Speeches in Kenya, I have ever heard, without a prompter, or a written speech, when signing the ACCORD.
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 7, 2012 20:47:07 GMT 3
Mwalimu, You've never been objective on anything and it's therefore hard to engage you in any discussion. How exactly did the PM wrong the people of Rift Valley? Is it Mau? If so, do you think it was a wrong idea for the gov't to restore the Mau? But if you supported the Mau restoration then you probably faulted the gov't on how the whole process was carried out and I do too but why exactly is the PM among all those who were involved being singled out? Did the then finance minister Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta provide the needed funds in timely manner or didn't the PNU wing of the coalition gov't voluntarily play politics with this issue strategically to create a wedge between the PM and the Kalenjins? The facts are out there for anyone with a serious mind to digest but for those who claim voluntary ignorance, I can't convince them otherwise. By the way, I don't see anything wrong with what the ODM reloaded team said under the link you provided. We need clean politics from all Kenyans and more so from our leaders but since there's never gonna be anything like clean politics anywhere in the world, we can still strive to inch closer by toning down the crap we are used to in Kenya. On a lighter note, the Obama victory celebrations is open to all, it would be nice to meet you there and discuss some politics. Rais, Funny you accuse me of not being objective simply because I do not agree with you. Fair enough. The PM was given an overwhelming mandate by the RV people. They did not do so because they loved him to death, no. But because there are issues and grievances they trusted that he was better suited to handle. He entered into a covenant with them, just like he did with other Kenyans. Five years down the line, what has he achieved for them to compel them to look at him the second time? When an opportunity availed itself for him to deal with one of their main problems, land. What did he do? He threw women and children out of their homes and into the rain, on the roadside in makeshift homes. Many died, children missed school and many others contracted diseases they will never be able to cure. They lost property and saw their sweat count for nothing. Yes, arguments have been made that the Mau relocation was a government decision, but then we never stop to ask, who was tasked with its implementation? Was a gun held on his head and told those people must leave by this date or else you have no job? Of course not, he was told to coordinate and supervise the process. What did he do? He chose to kick innocent people in the teeth. You tell me, how do you forgive such an inhuman act? And where is the guarantee that the fellow will not become even more satanic with more power? Rais, Raila has been tried and tested, people now know him very well. That is why no one, not even the most light weight wants anything close to working with him. People now know that if you help him to power, he will demand for your wife and kids. Who wants to find themselves in such a situation my friend? Not many Kenyans do. Lets not generalize Citizens of Kenya here.. when Raila Said KIBAKI TOSHA in 2002? why didn't Kibaki reject the offer of working with him if this man Raila was the devil that you preach he is? Lets go down memory lane.. After Kibaki got into statehouse what did he and central province pen out? "RAILA WILL NEVER BE THE PRESIDENT OF KENYA" so lets not pretend or try to involve other tribes or communities in the central province Raila hate fest.. MOST KENYANS KNOW THAT IS A KIKUYU/CENTRAL PROVINCE STAND.. other tribes and communities in are not party to Raila phobia and hate stand.. and yes by the way keep calling him Rais because come 2013 he will be and your lips won't manage to spew it out! you will choke;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 7, 2012 20:56:16 GMT 3
Jukwaa Karl Rove,one word PROTOCOL, it is the highest seat in KENYA, you follow the protocol, When the PM came to the US, He did the same thing trying to visit the white house, without following the proper channels. Kofi was EXPECTED not confirmed. As Miguna said there is no protocol in PM office, you can see anytime, that is why he is each and every Funeral in Kenya, every weekend. On a Sidenote,I think the PM gave one of the oustanding Speeches in Kenya, I have ever heard, without a prompter, or a written speech, when signing the ACCORD. I don't think it bothered Kofi Anan Kibaki not giving them audience... by the way Protocol is normally followed even before the People arrive in any country for State Visits.. the government of Kenya must have received a request for Visit from Kofi's team before they arrival and the communication from government of Kenya must have confirmed dates of Meetings before Kofi's team traveled to kenya.. that means Kibaki renegaded on his confirmed meetings with Kofi .. shame.. Not sure who Kibaki was trying to Impress or slight? it didn't work.. it just brought forward the point that he needs to go sit under a tree in Nyeri retirement village
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Post by joblesscorner on Nov 7, 2012 21:02:16 GMT 3
Reporter,
On a very polite question, Did you go to school? You do not have capacity to understand English. reRead the Kofi Annan post word by word.
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 7, 2012 21:23:22 GMT 3
Reporter,On a very polite question, Did you go to school? You do not have capacity to understand English. reRead the Kofi Annan post word by word. You are the Dumb paid Troll by Uhuru"TNT" camp.. so lets not go there you are sure earning your $$$.. Education? you? nope.. fake degrees maybe.. but keep spewing your ignorance on here:) Get it right for the last time.. Kibaki refused to meet Kofi on his previous visit after he had earlier confirmed before they arrived in the country that the meeting was on.. ( the problem arose when Annan refused to meet Uhuru the King of central province) meetings with Government, independent and constitutional commissions and other major stakeholder groups, including business leaders, civil society, religious leaders, media and the international community. The government!!! "Kibaki"heads the government of Kenya.. that appointment must have been communicated before Annan and team arrived in Kenya. it is PROTOCOL!! [/size]
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Post by b6k on Nov 7, 2012 21:30:36 GMT 3
Office of the President at the hosting country. You need to be specific about that. The Burundians are the ones who decided to lay out the red carpet & troops. I would bet Uhuru & his entourage were secretly taken aback by the pomp & ceremony ;D You are trying to be clever by a half bwana b6kA foreign head of state cannot receive another citizen of Kenya and accord full state honours without the express intervention of President Kibaki. It is only Kibaki who could have arranged this trip and that to Tanzania at the same level. That is diplomatic protocol. It is also ill advised for Kibaki to refuse to meet Koffi Annan in his capacity as the mediator of the coalition government that Kibaki and Raila jointly head. Koffi was smart enough to avoid meeting TNA leadership just because others mistakenly thought he had met ODM leadership! On these shuttle diplomacy trips, the risk is great because if another candidate other than Uhuru wins the elections, then Nkuruzinza and Kikwete are left with eggs on their faces. Such a scenario ultimately affects development of EAC into a political federation. When all is considered, Uhuru remains a ICC indictee for crying out loud! This is not a a small charge my friend. Ours is a critical election. It would do Kenya's retiring president and regional leaders good if they conduct themselves with utmost neutrality. So predictable you guys, I note you have given the other pertinent issues I raised in that comment a wide berth. Sawa tu! Phil, your assumption that just because a few chaps in uniform lined the red carpet that constitutes full state honors is just that...an assumption. I have no idea what Burundi's inspecting of the guard ceremony looks like, & I would hazzard a guess that neither do you. The photos you sent of the gig with Kikwete showed a Uhuru who was in casual garb looking very much like a man on vacation (with Shebesh in tow no less). There was no sign of full state honors being accorded to the group. As for another candidate winning the elections that is neither here nor there. He or she will be given the same visitor's book to sign & will definitely enjoy full state honors.
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 7, 2012 22:35:06 GMT 3
Mwalimu,
For the sake of objective reasoning, let's discuss some of the things you outlined above.
1.The PM was given an overwhelming mandate by the RV people. They did not do so because they loved him to death, no. But because there are issues and grievances they trusted that he was better suited to handle. He entered into a covenant with them, just like he did with other Kenyans. Five years down the line, what has he achieved for them to compel them to look at him the second time?
What were these issues and grievances?
2.When an opportunity availed itself for him to deal with one of their main problems, land. What did he do? He threw women and children out of their homes and into the rain, on the roadside in makeshift homes. Many died, children missed school and many others contracted diseases they will never be able to cure. They lost property and saw their sweat count for nothing
I'm not sure where you stand on the Mau restoration. Do you support it or not? Secondly, was there any alternative plan that was put together by the local leaders on how best to carry such an important exercise? Unless I'm wrong, there was no alternative restoration plan put together by all those leaders who are shouting the most except the usual emptiness.
3.Yes, arguments have been made that the Mau relocation was a government decision, but then we never stop to ask, who was tasked with its implementation? Was a gun held on his head and told those people must leave by this date or else you have no job? Of course not, he was told to coordinate and supervise the process. What did he do? He chose to kick innocent people in the teeth. You tell me, how do you forgive such an inhuman act? And where is the guarantee that the fellow will not become even more satanic with more power?
It's true that the PM was tasked with the implementation of the Mau restoration and of course no gun was put on his head. The restoration project was something the nation needed and had to be done. Unlike the Kuttunys of this world who believe that mungu ndiye aleta mvua, majority of Kenyans do appreciate the vital role our forests play in the ecosystem. So while the anti-RAO brigade may fault him on going agaisnt the wishes of his Key supporters, all I saw was leadership. Kenya had to be put first and then politics second and I appluad him for the courage. I wish the exercise was done in a better way especially on resettling the displaced folks but let's not forget how politics carried the day on this one .
Lastly, It's quite a stretch to suggest that RAO maybe SATANIC with power if elected! Democracy allows us to differ with each other politically but it also demands from us some degree of civility. Anyone is free to hate Raila as much as they wish and for whatever reason but to personalize the political process unnecessarily is pathetic.
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Post by joblesscorner on Nov 7, 2012 23:51:55 GMT 3
One time I was listening to Jalango kiss fm and he said there three kind of folks in Politics... Followers, Supporters and Fanatic. Rift Valley in 2007 were just mere supporters, so Raiswakesho, RV would NOT die for Raila. What he promised them was 1) MAU 2) MAU 3) MAU 4) arap Samoei as the PM Mwalimu, For the sake of objective reasoning, let's discuss some of the things you outlined above. 1.The PM was given an overwhelming mandate by the RV people. They did not do so because they loved him to death, no. But because there are issues and grievances they trusted that he was better suited to handle. He entered into a covenant with them, just like he did with other Kenyans. Five years down the line, what has he achieved for them to compel them to look at him the second time? What were these issues and grievances?
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 8, 2012 0:04:39 GMT 3
One time I was listening to Jalango kiss fm and he said there three kind of folks in Politics... Followers, Supporters and Fanatic. Rift Valley in 2007 were just mere supporters, so Raiswakesho, RV would NOT die for Raila. What he promised them was 1) MAU 2) MAU 3) MAU 4) arap Samoei as the PM Mwalimu, For the sake of objective reasoning, let's discuss some of the things you outlined above. 1.The PM was given an overwhelming mandate by the RV people. They did not do so because they loved him to death, no. But because there are issues and grievances they trusted that he was better suited to handle. He entered into a covenant with them, just like he did with other Kenyans. Five years down the line, what has he achieved for them to compel them to look at him the second time? What were these issues and grievances? As tasteless as ever.. not surprising... 2007? why Kenyans fought and why our country was in rivers of Blood 1.Your buddy Kibaki rigged himself into Statehouse at night 2. This triggered clashes and all the other injustices done to the Kalenjins ( LAND ISSUES) surfaced. If the lame duck had not rigged himself in then everything could have gone as planned.. every agreement and commitment agreed upon was set to happen in ODM.. So lets not try and change history? the above comment is disturbing? are there plans in the offing from your Buddies "TNT" camp and Ruto to cause clashes in the Rift Valley? why else would Rift Valley be in a position to Die for Raila in 2013? do inform us.. something smells like a rat.. this back handed comments must have come from your handlers and Kenyans in the Rift Valley better watch out!!
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Post by Mukwhasi on Nov 8, 2012 0:55:11 GMT 3
Often in an election the person that is fought the most always wins because all the enegry is directed at him and that makes him stronger.This is easily explains how Barrack Obama was re-elected for a second term in the US.Back to Kenya ,love him or hate him Raila Amollo Odinga is the next president of Kenya come march 4th ,i hope this will be here come March 5th for all to see.
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 8, 2012 1:29:10 GMT 3
Joblessscorer,
Raila promised the RV Mau? Do you know why Ruto wasn't appointed the PM or should I remind you?
There are many people like you who ride in the anti-RAO bus without any basis and by the way, you didn't answer the questions I posed for Mwalimu but thanks for the effort.
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 8, 2012 17:34:51 GMT 3
In the News he pretending to be offended by the Speakers position offered earlier then behind the scenes he is shouting THANK YOU TO UHURU FOR THE JOB I guess he promised to bring UhuruRuto brotherhood to return the ICC case back Home.. ;D ;D www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Uhuru+hosts+allies+over+coalition+deal/-/1064/1614992/-/3iddqs/-/index.htmlThe meeting was attended by Justice Minister Eugene Wamalwa, Water Minister Charity Ngilu, Environment Minister Chirau Mwakwere, MPs Aden Duale, Kiema Kilonzo, Najib Balala, Charles Keter and Musikari Kombo.WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO UHURU"TNT" PROTÉGÉ MUDAVADI? I GUESS HE WAS REPLACED BY "BALALA" A REJECT FROM COST PROVINCE. ;D ;D Uhuru "TNT and his runner up won't bring him any votes from Kenyan.. the above line up is pathetic.. kweli this are desperate times for UhuruRuto camp..
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Nov 8, 2012 17:59:43 GMT 3
Mwalimu, For the sake of objective reasoning, let's discuss some of the things you outlined above. 1. The PM was given an overwhelming mandate by the RV people. They did not do so because they loved him to death, no. But because there are issues and grievances they trusted that he was better suited to handle. He entered into a covenant with them, just like he did with other Kenyans. Five years down the line, what has he achieved for them to compel them to look at him the second time? What were these issues and grievances? 2. When an opportunity availed itself for him to deal with one of their main problems, land. What did he do? He threw women and children out of their homes and into the rain, on the roadside in makeshift homes. Many died, children missed school and many others contracted diseases they will never be able to cure. They lost property and saw their sweat count for nothingI'm not sure where you stand on the Mau restoration. Do you support it or not? Secondly, was there any alternative plan that was put together by the local leaders on how best to carry such an important exercise? Unless I'm wrong, there was no alternative restoration plan put together by all those leaders who are shouting the most except the usual emptiness. 3. Yes, arguments have been made that the Mau relocation was a government decision, but then we never stop to ask, who was tasked with its implementation? Was a gun held on his head and told those people must leave by this date or else you have no job? Of course not, he was told to coordinate and supervise the process. What did he do? He chose to kick innocent people in the teeth. You tell me, how do you forgive such an inhuman act? And where is the guarantee that the fellow will not become even more satanic with more power? It's true that the PM was tasked with the implementation of the Mau restoration and of course no gun was put on his head. The restoration project was something the nation needed and had to be done. Unlike the Kuttunys of this world who believe that mungu ndiye aleta mvua, majority of Kenyans do appreciate the vital role our forests play in the ecosystem. So while the anti-RAO brigade may fault him on going agaisnt the wishes of his Key supporters, all I saw was leadership. Kenya had to be put first and then politics second and I appluad him for the courage. I wish the exercise was done in a better way especially on resettling the displaced folks but let's not forget how politics carried the day on this one . Lastly, It's quite a stretch to suggest that RAO maybe SATANIC with power if elected! Democracy allows us to differ with each other politically but it also demands from us some degree of civility. Anyone is free to hate Raila as much as they wish and for whatever reason but to personalize the political process unnecessarily is pathetic. RaisThe Kalenjin nation were looking for solace – their man had lost power and were fearful Kikuyus will be seeking revenge. They supported Raila because he was the safest pointer to protect them from Kibaki and his mafia. But he did not. They lost jobs in droves, and many lost in business deals and other ventures. Their lands are constantly reclaimed by govt. Other than protecting Moi from prosecution, Raila has not stopped Kibaki from disseminating the homogenous unity of the kalenjin nation. You say Raila was given the task for restoration of Mau. By whom? Mau as any other govt action in Kenya comes under ministry and it’s the Minister in charge who is politically tasked with implementing project under their respective docket, answerable to Parliament and President. Raila was only a busybody with an interest. A lot of govt project take place across the land – road building and so forth, but you don’t see the inhuman barbaric action of throwing people out of their land. What happened at Mau was a great shame. The merit of Mau restoration was simply to seek brownie points from the West. That is why we saw western ambassador in attendance. Raila needed and still needs money for his campaign – no secret there. Who better to attract attention from other than the monied western NGOs in the favourably guise of environmental protection? I know many people who have sought and be given money from guilty environmental NGOs because they claim they planted trees on water catchment area in their local areas and produced pictures to that effect. I like the environmental intention but I am not happy when I see poor people cleared out of their small plots while the rich landlords with million of hectares are left alone. You need to read between the lines to see the real agenda - no one really cared about restoration of Mau.
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Post by joblesscorner on Nov 8, 2012 18:20:33 GMT 3
Sadik,In 2007 around February. We were having a very eye opening conversation with currently Rt PM Rao, and actually Miguna was there too. Rao mentioned that the Cabinet wanted to prosecute retired president, but he objected, and he said it was for the better of the country. Mwalimu, Other than protecting Moi from prosecution, Raila has not stopped Kibaki from disseminating the homogenous unity of the kalenjin nation.
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 8, 2012 21:07:49 GMT 3
Rais
The Kalenjin nation were looking for solace – their man had lost power and were fearful Kikuyus will be seeking revenge. They supported Raila because he was the safest pointer to protect them from Kibaki and his mafia. But he did not. They lost jobs in droves, and many lost in business deals and other ventures. Their lands are constantly reclaimed by govt. Other than protecting Moi from prosecution, Raila has not stopped Kibaki from disseminating the homogenous unity of the kalenjin nation.
You say Raila was given the task for restoration of Mau. By whom? Mau as any other govt action in Kenya comes under ministry and it’s the Minister in charge who is politically tasked with implementing project under their respective docket, answerable to Parliament and President. Raila was only a busybody with an interest.
A lot of govt project take place across the land – road building and so forth, but you don’t see the inhuman barbaric action of throwing people out of their land. What happened at Mau was a great shame.
The merit of Mau restoration was simply to seek brownie points from the West. That is why we saw western ambassador in attendance.
Raila needed and still needs money for his campaign – no secret there. Who better to attract attention from other than the monied western NGOs in the favourably guise of environmental protection? I know many people who have sought and be given money from guilty environmental NGOs because they claim they planted trees on water catchment area in their local areas and produced pictures to that effect.
I like the environmental intention but I am not happy when I see poor people cleared out of their small plots while the rich landlords with million of hectares are left alone.
You need to read between the lines to see the real agenda - no one really cared about restoration of Mau. [/quote]
Sadik, Thanks for sharing your opinion as the specifics I raised for Mwalimu but I'm a little confused as to what you are saying in your 1st five paragraphs.
As I said before, the restoration of Mau was for the good of the nation and I would like to see the exercise run to its conclusion without any preferential treatments of any kind. By the way, majority of Kenyans supported the project and still do.
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 8, 2012 21:11:56 GMT 3
Sadik,In 2007 around February. We were having a very eye opening conversation with currently Rt PM Rao, and actually Miguna was there too. Rao mentioned that the Cabinet wanted to prosecute retired president, but he objected, and he said it was for the better of the country. Mwalimu, Other than protecting Moi from prosecution, Raila has not stopped Kibaki from disseminating the homogenous unity of the kalenjin nation. What exactly is your point?
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 9, 2012 22:00:16 GMT 3
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 9, 2012 22:32:21 GMT 3
Just incase they forget to click on the Link.. I made it easier for those with weak fingers to be able to read this interesting article from Kenyan who sees through the theatrics
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 9, 2012 22:57:43 GMT 3
Reporter,
Nice!
Mwalimu,
I previously asked you some specific questions, I'm still waiting for your response.
Lest you forget....
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 9, 2012 23:35:53 GMT 3
PLAN A: STOP RAILA ODINGA AT ALL COSTSPLAN B: Uhuru Kenyatta - President William Ruto - Deputy President Charity Ngilu - Leader of Majority Eugene Wamalwa - SpeakerPLAN C: Charity Ngilu - President Eugene Wamalwa - Deputy President Rachael Shebesh - Leader of Majority Charles Keter - SpeakerDecember 4th here we come!!! But will the two principals allow any other person but themselves on the Presidential ticket? if Uhuru steps down and hands the Ticket to Wamalwa as it had already previously discussed.. the central Province population maybe convinced to go Robotic voting for him ( they believe he is controllable once he gets into statehouse) the problem will be the Western province vote.. they have already admitted in todays paper that they believe he can garner only two counties in Western Province.. ( that will not give them winning numbers) On the other hand Ngilu as an alternative presidential ticket will not garner enough Ukambani votes to help them glitch the win? Looking at their Line up Uhuru- Presidency Ruto Vice Presideny ( Not a winning hand)
Alternatively if they have Wamalwa or Ngilu President & Vice( that too won't give them the votes to win since they don't have the numbers) Kenya is still safe nothing to write home about on the above line up Seems you were right on the money.. the scenario's are changing every minute
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Post by raiswakesho on Nov 10, 2012 1:00:10 GMT 3
I believe I've mentioned in a couple of posts here in Jukwaa that the only reason that we won't have Uhuru, Ruto, Mudavadi & Kalonzo under one ticket is post -Raila politics period! You can slice and dice it whichever way possible but at the end of the day, it boils down to AMBITION. These gentlemen are only a few years apart in age and therefore if they were to unite under one ticket, the lucky guy chosen to carry their flag will definately become the 4th president of the republic but then, there lies the problem!! Kenyan politics being what it is, whoever settles for the No. 2 slot will have to accept the reality of waiting in line for another 10YRS!! What happens to the No. 3 who possibly can be slotted for the Majority leader? He will have to wait even longer...by the way there's no room for a No. 4, a senior minister maybe? Who would care about that and how do you even sell it to your supporters? Time has proved me right! ...I've been preaching this chorus ever since the G7,G8 alliance was crafted but many folks couldn't believe it. Didn't Musila and the Wiper team say they can't sell the position slotted for Musyoka? I'm more into the science of politics and not so much into its art, I think we can distinguish who belongs in which aisle here in Jukwaa Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=7505&page=4#ixzz2BlVj2u6c
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Post by Mobimba on Nov 10, 2012 1:10:03 GMT 3
With Kalonzo Musyoka having been used, abused and refused by the G7, he no longer has reason to restrain the likes of Mutula Kilonzo from telling the nation the truth i.e. that those facing crimes against humanity at the ICC cannot purport to present themselves as bona fide presidential candidates. It's a moral issue if not legal and constitutional.
Going by the recent increase of bold newspaper articles on the same, I'd say the public is finally awakening to the realities of an immoral 'out on bond' Presidency. Question is, what happens when Uhuru and Ruto awaken to the same realities? Their best bet was Mudavadi but he too has pretty much been chewed, sucked and spat out by the G7.
What next? Ngilu/Wamalwa? Things are thick.
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 10, 2012 3:11:13 GMT 3
With Kalonzo Musyoka having been used, abused and refused by the G7, he no longer has reason to restrain the likes of Mutula Kilonzo from telling the nation the truth i.e. that those facing crimes against humanity at the ICC cannot purport to present themselves as bona fide presidential candidates. It's a moral issue if not legal and constitutional. Going by the recent increase of bold newspaper articles on the same, I'd say the public is finally awakening to the realities of an immoral 'out on bond' Presidency. Question is, what happens when Uhuru and Ruto awaken to the same realities? Their best bet was Mudavadi but he too has pretty much been chewed, sucked and spat out by the G7. What next? Ngilu/Wamalwa? Things are thick. ICC cases a headache to TNA, URP teams www.standardmedia.co.ke/?categoryID=0Ngilu & Wamalwa card has already been discussed by Uhuruto Strategic team But their seems to be a problem with that combination.. i.e can they pull enough votes from Ukambani & Western Province NOPE..and will all central province vote for the Duo without their son on the top ticket>?NOPE!
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 10, 2012 13:10:22 GMT 3
I have clip here of the Uhuru's visit to Bunjumbura. This kind of protocol arrangements can only be organised by Office of the President. Only the court of arms and national flag are missing as Eugene Wamalwa perfectly plays Aide-De-Camp. Is it not so, that Uhuru Kenyatta currently is the DPM of Kenya? when he visits a foreign country therefore, in the company of the minister of Justice, does that not, in protocol terms, constitute a HIGH-POWER governmental delegation from Kenya? I think, from the Burundi side, the Deputy Prime Minister is far above the minister of foreign affairs, in effect the deputy to the head of state.You surely have to roll out the red carpet for such a distinguished figure! Unless the Burundians want to enter the quagmire of Kenyan politics, and start figuring out how the coalition works!
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Post by reporter911 on Nov 10, 2012 19:07:32 GMT 3
Is it not so, that Uhuru Kenyatta currently is the DPM of Kenya? when he visits a foreign country therefore, in the company of the minister of Justice, does that not, in protocol terms, constitute a HIGH-POWER governmental delegation from Kenya? I think, from the Burundi side, the Deputy Prime Minister is far above the minister of foreign affairs, in effect the deputy to the head of state.You surely have to roll out the red carpet for such a distinguished figure! Unless the Burundians want to enter the quagmire of Kenyan politics, and start figuring out how the coalition works! COALITION GOVERNMENT - ODM/PNU that is it.. when Uhuru & Co go gallivanting all over Africa? was it agreed upon by the coalition government? there are two parties which signed on the coalition government that Kenyans were forced to accept due to rigged elections and "PEV".. Did ODM sign on Uhuru's shuttle diplomacy? who is paying/footing for all these trips? why hasn't someone spoken up? A COALTION GOVERNMENT - BOTH PARTIES MUST SIGN ON.. THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT KENYANS WERE FORCED TO ACCEPT.. KIBAKI MUST BE REMINDED..[/b]
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