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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 8, 2013 0:27:15 GMT 3
Jubilee accuses CORD of polarizing the country by talking about land, really? Only those who are guilty or have questionable possessions should be scared...I believe the people know better on this one!
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 8, 2013 0:52:59 GMT 3
If only some of us could stop and think for a second ...
Must Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta & his co-accused running mate run in this election regardless of the serious charges they face at ICC? What's in it for them that it's this election or never? How can both claim to mean well for this country when they know very well the potential ramifications that may follow their presidency if they are found guilty by the International Criminal Court?
The duo are innocent until proven guilty but we also know that we don't want our country to be run by anyone guilty of crimes against humanity and that's why Kenyans shouldn't take any chance with the duo! Since Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta & Hon. William Ruto have failed to do the honorable thing of stepping aside, we the good people of Kenya should send a clear message to them come March 4th.
Lastly, let me state clearly that I recognize the duo's right to seek any elective position in the country as will be confirmed next week by the High Court. However, this goes beyond the written laws and sits squarely within the moral laws!
What's the worst that could happen to Hon. Uhuru & Hon.Ruto if they waited for the 2017 election! Well the only thing I can think of is very simple...in the event that both are found innocent, there would be no way under the sun that they can run on one ticket !!
To answer the question of what's in it for them, let me say it clearly that it has more to do with Hon. Kenyatta than it does with Hon. Ruto. Kenyatta knows that this is the only time he can have Ruto on his camp because without the ICC case, they would both be in the opposite ends. (Who doesn't know that Hon. Kenyatta as an individual has no tangible support outside his tribe?)
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 8, 2013 19:47:02 GMT 3
Hehehehehehheee!! The kitchen seems to be getting very hot for the analogue honchos. These guys have spend years and years in leadership with totally nothing to show for it. They have always rode on party popularity to get back their positions while taking advantage of an electorate without options. But now, the electorate has options. It has seen how differently things can be done to its own benefit and uplifting and all over a sudden, the idlers are a troubled lot. For a number of weeks now, it has been reported in whispers that mama Ngilu is really giving the CORD leaders a hard time in Ukambani, and now it is coming out in the open. Musila is sensing defeat and is crying wolf, citing voter bribery instead of addressing himself to the real issue, which is, Kambas are asking the hard questions to which neither Musila nor Kalonzo have answers, but Ngilu does. Here he is, Bw. Musila. elections.nation.co.ke/news/Musila-lodges-voter-bribery-complaint-against-Ngilu/-/1631868/1688628/-/13qdjt4z/-/index.html
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 10, 2013 7:58:16 GMT 3
" I teamed up with Uhuru so that we can have peace in rift valley..." said Mr. Ruto.
Does Hon. Ruto know something that we don't know? Let's assume he's found the solution for peace but aren't we interested to know what the cause was?
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I saw Hon. Ruto laugh so hard when Hon. Uhuru said in a rally that Raila aliiba some land kule Kisumu lakini isn't Ruto also in court for some unyakuzi?
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Hon. Musalia bado amezidi na siasi ya ateleta amani kwani tuko kwa vita? Majority of Kenyans are very peaceful and so I believe he isn't appealing to them which means he's bound to lose!
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Tukae kwa amani ndungu zanguni!
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Post by mank on Feb 10, 2013 8:05:27 GMT 3
" I teamed up with Uhuru so that we can have peace in rift valley..." said Mr. Ruto. Does Hon. Ruto know something that we don't know? Let's assume he's found the solution for peace but aren't we interested to know what the cause was? ... I saw Hon. Ruto laugh so hard when Hon. Uhuru said in a rally that Raila aliiba some land kule Kisumu lakini isn't Ruto also in court for some unyakuzi? ... Hon. Musalia bado amezidi na siasi ya ateleta amani kwani tuko kwa vita? Majority of Kenyans are very peaceful and so I believe he isn't appealing to them which means he's bound to lose! ... Tukae kwa amani ndungu zanguni! Rais, Honestly, it won't make a difference to argue this one stole or did. They are all thieves! We are in strange lands, fortunately the lands in which the power rests squarely on the people. I love it!
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Post by podp on Feb 10, 2013 9:22:17 GMT 3
" I teamed up with Uhuru so that we can have peace in rift valley..." said Mr. Ruto. Does Hon. Ruto know something that we don't know? Let's assume he's found the solution for peace but aren't we interested to know what the cause was? ... I saw Hon. Ruto laugh so hard when Hon. Uhuru said in a rally that Raila aliiba some land kule Kisumu lakini isn't Ruto also in court for some unyakuzi? ... Hon. Musalia bado amezidi na siasi ya ateleta amani kwani tuko kwa vita? Majority of Kenyans are very peaceful and so I believe he isn't appealing to them which means he's bound to lose! ... Tukae kwa amani ndungu zanguni! Rais, Honestly, it won't make a difference to argue this one stole or did. They are all thieves! We are in strange lands, fortunately the lands in which the power rests squarely on the people. I love it! In the beginning it was KANU. KANU married a wife called NDP. Together they begat LDP Rainbow. LDP married NAK and together they begat NARK. NARK begat ODM-K and ODM. ODM K was married by PNU and changed her maiden name to WIPER. WIPER was then married as a Co -wife with FORD-K to ODM and together they begat CORD. Leading KANU descendants today are thus CORD, then JUBILEE and UDF. These three have in their genes and DNA impunity, corruption, rigging, etc which they have commonly inherited from their ancestor KANU. Their flag bearers are all former KANU stalwarts: CORD'S Raila KANU Sec General, Kalonzo KANU organising Sec ; JUBILEE's Uhuru KANU Vice president, same as UDF's MUDAVADI. That is why they are all united in parliament on matters robbery, impunity, corruption. Their soon coming nominations will be nothing different from each other, and they have picked the same date... my favourite blogger
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 10, 2013 16:34:31 GMT 3
Results for presidential debates are out and as usual wanajukwaa have hit the spinning room in their party colors! Who do I go to for an independet analysis....? I could have waited to until tomorrow lakini mbona when I know what will exactly happen here in jukwaa. Is there any one blogger here in jukwaa who can clearly endorse as an independent and objective?
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 10, 2013 17:50:44 GMT 3
Is there any one blogger here in jukwaa who can clearly endorse as an independent and objective? That would be me, and I endorse Peter Kenneth.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 10, 2013 18:02:20 GMT 3
Is there any one blogger here in jukwaa who can clearly endorse as an independent and objective? That would be me, and I endorse Peter Kenneth. Otishotish, Just a question , what has Peter Keneth done to warrant him being elected the Kenyan president come Mar 04 ?
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 10, 2013 18:12:05 GMT 3
Otishotish, Just a question , what has Peter Keneth done to warrant him being elected the Kenyan president come Mar 04 ? I don't if you've ever heard of The Story of Louis Armstrong & The Square White Lady. It refers to the following exchange. Square White Lady: "Mr Armstrong!, Mr. Armstrong!, Sir!"
Mr. Armstrong: "Yes, ma'am".
Square White Lady: "Mr. Armstrong, what exactly is jazz?"
Mr. Armstrong: "Ma'am, if you have to ask, then you don't need to know."Somethings are like that. But see also my short "digital essay" on the subject .... coming later this week.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 10, 2013 18:20:36 GMT 3
Otishotish, Just a question , what has Peter Keneth done to warrant him being elected the Kenyan president come Mar 04 ? I don't if you've ever heard of The Story of Louis Armstrong & The Square White Lady. It refers to the following exchange. Square White Lady: "Mr Armstrong!, Mr. Armstrong!, Sir!"
Mr. Armstrong: "Yes, ma'am".
Square White Lady: "Mr. Armstrong, what exactly is jazz?"
Mr. Armstrong: "Ma'am, if you have to ask, then you don't need to know."Somethings are like that. But see also my short "digital essay" on the subject .... coming later this week. Thanks Otis , I ve asked the same question to a lot of PK supporters and usually they dont have anything to speak about. As you can see above there is nothing you can write home about his candidature. The so called accountability of CDF funds does not hold ground as we have not seen any benefits to talk about.
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 10, 2013 18:33:08 GMT 3
I don't if you've ever heard of The Story of Louis Armstrong & The Square White Lady. It refers to the following exchange. Square White Lady: "Mr Armstrong!, Mr. Armstrong!, Sir!"
Mr. Armstrong: "Yes, ma'am".
Square White Lady: "Mr. Armstrong, what exactly is jazz?"
Mr. Armstrong: "Ma'am, if you have to ask, then you don't need to know."Somethings are like that. But see also my short "digital essay" on the subject .... coming later this week. Thanks Otis , I ve asked the same question to a lot of PK supporters and usually they dont have anything to speak about. As you can see above there is nothing you can write home about his candidature. The so called accountability of CDF funds does not hold ground as we have not seen any benefits to talk about. But see also my short "digital essay" on the subject .... coming later this week.
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 10, 2013 20:56:55 GMT 3
Otis, I think your posts have been fair and balanced in many respect. Please note that the biggest test that awaits PK will come after March 4th if we the Cordeshians don't wrap this thing in 1st round by a 52 percent (I'm using OO's prediction). I'm inclined to believe that PK will not endorse any candidate in case of a runoff between Hon. Raila and Hon. Uhuru for some reasons I will have to save for later. Lastly I believe PK is a better quality than some of the candidates we have and he's some to watch for the future just like my friend Ababu.
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I think I've misplaced by voter's card but at least I've a week to find it before I fly home. Please check your documents to avoid a last minute surprise.
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 10, 2013 21:13:01 GMT 3
Rais:
I will be making our candidates case later this week. By the way, do you remember when Obama started running? People used to ask "what has he done?". He was derided on the grounds that the only "real job" he had ever had was as a community organizer, etc., etc., etc. And just before that even the government-spokesman of some banana republic dismissed him as just another junior senator or something.
Kenya needs real change, and it's not going to get it from yet another dose of Odingas and Kenyattas. Why must Kenyans go on and on as if Raila and Uhuru are the only choices they have?
I agree that PK is unlikely to endorse any candidate of he himself does not make it to Round 2. In such a case, the best thing for him to do is start positioning himself for 2018; Raila, if he wins will be retiring, and Uhuru will be in jail.
By the way, how will CORD win in Round 1 when even the robotic voters are starting to have minds of their own?
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 10, 2013 22:28:00 GMT 3
Otis, we seem to agree that PK may opt to watch on the sidelines in case of a runoff but does that also mean he may choose to fly out for a vacation and not vote? I guess it's hard to tell but what of his supporters like yourself? Let's worry about that when we cross the bridge. As I said before, your man is someone to watch in the future but if Ababu n Rais decide to run together in 2018 then Kenyans will have some tough decions to make! I can forsee Osumba being dropped for another catchy person...Nway I'm sorry for diverting attention from the battle at hand, it's COUNTDOWN TO MARCH 4TH!
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I hope Hon. Muite will be in the second debate, I think he's got some quality mind! Actually Dida should be in as well just to be fair and balanced!
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 10, 2013 23:00:29 GMT 3
Otis, we seem to agree that PK may opt to watch on the sidelines in case of a runoff but does that also mean he may choose to fly out for a vacation and not vote? I guess it's hard to tell but what of his supporters like yourself? Let's worry about that when we cross the bridge. As I said before, your man is someone to watch in the future but if Ababu n Rais decide to run together in 2018 then Kenyans will have some tough decions to make! I can forsee Osumba being dropped for another catchy person...Nway I'm sorry for diverting attention from the battle at hand, it's COUNTDOWN TO MARCH 4TH! ... I hope Hon. Muite will be in the second debate, I think he's got some quality mind! Actually Dida should be in as well just to be fair and balanced! I can never support Raila as long as he's in business with Maina Njenga. I can never support Uhuru as long as he faces trial at the ICC.
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 10, 2013 23:22:26 GMT 3
Otis, how can I argue with that?
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We all want a growing and well thriving nation regardless of our choice of candidates...mmhh, we all wanna go to heaven but none of us is ready to die...time to make tough choices is getting closer! I hope millions of Kenya who will make it to the polling stations come March 4th will stop and think for a few seconds before they cast their votes!
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Post by gateway on Feb 11, 2013 0:01:01 GMT 3
You know since Colorado legalized it, I quit politics. I am back to watch our beloved mammals debate each other later today. ;D
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Post by mank on Feb 11, 2013 1:41:15 GMT 3
Rais:
I will be making our candidates case later this week. By the way, do you remember when Obama started running? People used to ask "what has he done?". ... I concluded the very moment that Obama gave the 2004 DNC speech that he would win the next elections if he vied. The Americans around me found that laughable. A Kenyan friend said to me (of course with little critical thinking) that the guy would be assured winning in Kenya if he decided to run, and I told him US is where he would win. I expected a whole lot more from PK in this elections period. He has disappointed. He will most likely not have as good a chance in the future. I believe we will start seeing new and very competitive blood by the next time the silly season comes around.
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 11, 2013 2:01:19 GMT 3
Mank:
I agree that PK could have done a bit better. Interesting that you should mention "new and very competitive blood". As I will argue, there will certainly be new blood but it will not be competitive (let alone "very") unless Kenyans start---now!---to have a mind-shift. And that shift, away, from the old big men and products of their dynasties, is what we need.
Whether someone like PK wins now or not, a vote for him is a vote for change. If people like PK can get enough votes, Kenyans will start to see a new direction. That is one reason why all Kenyans who are serious about change should vote for PK. Even the guy who's promising three First Ladies would be better than the "leading" two.
Take a look at some of the major "debates" regarding the leading candidates. On one side: "he stole all that land!". And other side: "he stole that plant and swindled people!". One guy is charged with major crimes; the other guy's new best friend is the primary tool in those crimes. Surely, Kenyans can do better than settle for such a grim choice.
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 11, 2013 20:58:24 GMT 3
Presidential Debate...
Mwalimu Dida is killin me, I think I like this guy! Nway on a serious note, I'm not liking this debate but I'm glad we've started a journey which we must keep in all future elections. As I mentioned earlier, the popularity of the candidates remains as they were before the candidates walked in because unlike other countries, this debate is more of an entertainment to the 40 million Kenyans who are watching.
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Post by b6k on Feb 11, 2013 22:48:18 GMT 3
Presidential Debate... Mwalimu Dida is killin me, I think I like this guy! Nway on a serious note, I'm not liking this debate but I'm glad we've started a journey which we must keep in all future elections. As I mentioned earlier, the popularity of the candidates remains as they were before the candidates walked in because unlike other countries, this debate is more of an entertainment to the 40 million Kenyans who are watching. 40 million Kenyans watching is a media myth. How many TV's do we have in end users homes in KE? My guess would be there are more listeners on radio to which you add less viewers on TV. In all we'll be lucky to have the 14m registered voters tuned in to tonight's entertainment. Given the language of the proceeds probably not as many tuned in on either mode as we assume
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 11, 2013 23:17:54 GMT 3
I think Dida might have solved my problem, hii schedule ya chakula ishindwe kabisa! I'll start eating only when I'm hungry and also leave a third of the space for water! I think it was fun!!
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 13, 2013 0:21:13 GMT 3
Results for presidential debates are out and as usual wanajukwaa have hit the spinning room in their party colors! Who do I go to for an independet analysis....? I could have waited to until tomorrow lakini mbona when I know what will exactly happen here in jukwaa. Is there any one blogger here in jukwaa who can clearly endorse as an independent and objective? Boy was I wrong! The usual elements haven't colored the Jubilee candidate with praises for his 'excellent performance' in the debate which is quite surprising! I guess like everyone else, the debate wasn't all that if you know what I mean. There was nothing worth spinning and I'm not sure whether we should look foward for the second one.
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Post by raiswakesho on Feb 14, 2013 1:49:16 GMT 3
"No politician puts food on your table"..said Hon. Martha. What more does a voter need to hear?
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