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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 18, 2013 20:07:15 GMT 3
I join all GENUINE Kenyan patriots, democrats and progressives in denouncing the brutal armed robbery against the the true victor in the Siaya County gubernatorial contest, William Oduol.
It is ironic that Dr. Oburu Oginga, who shared the anguish with millions of Kenyans witnessing his younger brother being conned of his Presidential win a mere five years now crassly colludes to perpetrate what must be the BIGGEST electoral fraud in the history of Siaya County.
Dr. Oburu and your supporters I say:
SHAME ON YOU!
History will NEVER FORGIVE you for this blatant undemocratic crime!
Having gotten that off my chest, let me say this:
I am by nature, an optimist. All is not lost.
True people's victories are reaped after protracted, multi-pronged struggles involving many democratic forces.
As one Asian poet-revolutionary poet put it eons ago, adversity only steels and tempers those with a resolve to achieve their objectives.
Let us smile, roll our sleeves and soberly explore several realistic alternatives before us.
I can think of at least THREE OPTIONS available to William Oduol.
But I am keeping my mouth firmly shut for some fairly obvious reasons.
Onyango Oloo Secretary for Ideology, Social Democratic Party of Kenya
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Post by mzee on Jan 18, 2013 20:55:46 GMT 3
OO, I agree with you. The blatant theft by Oburu Odinga in broad daylight must not be allowed to stand.
Oburu Odinga pulled a Kibaki trick right in our face, then stood there to ask us; na mta do?
The CORD top leadership and particularly Raila Odinga must see to it that Oburu is denied the ticket.
If this is too hard then Oduol should be provided with a WDM or FK certificate to contest the same seat. He will still trounce Oburu Odinga.
SHAME ON YOU DR. OBURU OGINGA. SHAME.
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Jan 18, 2013 21:11:32 GMT 3
Oloo I'm sure you will welcome Oduol with a full embrace if he decides to defect to SDP, now that Oburu has 'stolen' his victory. That, I assume, is why you used your title, in your post. I suspect that is what you are saying! But, you aren't saying something else, and here a brother offers help... I therefore on your kind behalf make known to Oduol that SDP welcomes him aboard while strongly condemning what befell him at the hands of ODM's Oburu.
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Post by nereah on Jan 18, 2013 21:11:40 GMT 3
wuod gem,
i will be shooting from the hip.
there are many factors that worked against oduol:we in odm smelt the biggest rat the moment the raila hate society and anyone but raila brotherhood begun to troop into oduol corner robbing him of the much needed credibility and to my type effectively making him the vessel for dishonoring the most iconic brand that has been painstakingly built.
the level of hypocrisy being demonstrated over this siaya choice baffles me.i asked an aide to do an audit of relatives who are seeking elective pots in kenya this season and the results were eye popping. yet it is raila odinga and the odinga family that is being targeted for obvious reasons.
it is hypocritical to denounce what you have been made to believe is theft of votes in siaya while keeping mum at the direct nominations and boardroom deals in other party. james orengo from siaya has not been subjected to any election and by the way how did he make it to bunge in 2007 and with the benefit of hindsight,was that worth vindication?
moral equivalency aside, the oduol happenstance for that is what i can imagine of his surprise and suspicious presence in odm, is worth interrogating far beyond the prism that the avowed anti-raila crowd are wont to.
as raiswakesho may want to indulge, agwambo has nothing to lose with the outcome or consequences whether he defect or used as poster boy of anti raila movement in luoland form simple reasons that kenyans have made up their mind on raila.
the other reason is that oduol is attracting support from the usual crowd who have either never supported raila or are opprtunist.
the good news though is that oduol and those voters in siaya who feel disenfranchised but believe they have what it takes to undermine the authority of agwambo and odm, should proceed to tna, sdp or any anti-raila party and "rescue the luos from odingaism"
for the record may i state that the results of the siaya county polls for governor seat as given by the duly appointed returning officer are factual unless anyone, anyone at all in jukwaa or lurking could provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.spare me the gibberish of why the results were announce in bondo and not siaya and nada nada.
nyagem
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Post by nereah on Jan 18, 2013 21:17:52 GMT 3
I wonder if the "younger brother" will say anything. Going by the company of thieves he keeps, I doubt that he will. We'll see. let me hand you over to reporter911
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 21:38:20 GMT 3
I join all GENUINE Kenyan patriots, democrats and progressives in denouncing the brutal armed robbery against the the true victor in the Siaya County gubernatorial contest, William Oduol. It is ironic that Dr. Oburu Oginga, who shared the anguish with millions of Kenyans witnessing his younger brother being conned of his Presidential win a mere five years now crassly colludes to perpetrate what must be the BIGGEST electoral fraud in the history of Siaya County. Dr. Oburu and your supporters I say: SHAME ON YOU!
History will NEVER FORGIVE you for this blatant undemocratic crime!Having gotten that off my chest, let me say this: I am by nature, an optimist. All is not lost.True people's victories are reaped after protracted, multi-pronged struggles involving many democratic forces.
As one Asian poet-revolutionary poet put it eons ago, adversity only steels and tempers those with a resolve to achieve their objectives. Let us smile, roll our sleeves and soberly explore several realistic alternatives before us. I can think of at least THREE OPTIONS available to William Oduol. But I am keeping my mouth firmly shut for some fairly obvious reasons. Onyango Oloo Secretary for Ideology, Social Democratic Party of KenyaWell come to Kenya heated politics of Losers and winner's primary polls, 1. Where is the evidence?If we were to go by rumours on the ground there are numerous claims that ODUOL is being sponsored by Uhuru"TNA" a in house spoiler in "CORD" and he was actually seen with them on several occasions, what say ODUOL to this allegations!if ODOUL thinks he has been rigged and has the majority of support in Siaya, he can leave "CORD" and seek GOVERNORSHIP under JUBILEE or any other coalition as many other aspirants have done.
We await for your Evidence if you can kindly Post it here on Jukwaa. www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-101509/aspirant-oduol-denies-he-tna-moleWHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS "FIRE" as the saying goes..
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 18, 2013 21:40:10 GMT 3
I wonder if the "younger brother" will say anything. Going by the company of thieves he keeps, I doubt that he will. We'll see. let me hand you over to reporter911 Dada Nereah: It appears that while you were typing, I was busy deleting my comment. I did so after reading your comment to the effect that complaining about electoral theft is an attempt to "undermine the authority of Agwambo": I have little interest in intra-party shenanigans arising from mischief by Odingas who believe that where The Big One eats is where they also must eat. Maybe that is the African way? But there is one aspect of this story that interests me: In Part 2 of the Maina-Njenga story, I have had it in mind to write about the "robotic voters" who will not question the marriage (by Bwana Safi-Kama-Pamba) to a monster who did what we all know to their relatives, friends, and other loved ones. It now appears that some of the robots have had enough! When even robots say enough is enough, you know it's mambo bado! I will wait, observe, and then get back to my story. In the meantime, I'll leave you folks to slug it out on this one. Say hallo to Grundig911. PEACE, LOVE, AND UNITY.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 18, 2013 22:10:26 GMT 3
wuod gem, i will be shooting from the hip. for the record may i state that the results of the siaya county polls for governor seat as given by the duly appointed returning officer are factual unless anyone, anyone at all in jukwaa or lurking could provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.spare me the gibberish of why the results were announce in bondo and not siaya and nada nada. nyagem I am being informed Franklin Bett has just announced the suspension of the Siaya gubernatorial nominations result which gave a landslide to Oburu Odinga. Background news: some returning officers from certain stations who, to put it gently, are reluctant to go on record as having certified the earlier read tallies.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 18, 2013 22:16:23 GMT 3
fuata nyayo wewe! where there is smoke there is always fire, except when the smoke is about rigging in ODM bedrocks! ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 22:20:46 GMT 3
wuod gem, i will be shooting from the hip. for the record may i state that the results of the siaya county polls for governor seat as given by the duly appointed returning officer are factual unless anyone, anyone at all in jukwaa or lurking could provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.spare me the gibberish of why the results were announce in bondo and not siaya and nada nada. nyagem I am being informed Franklin Bett has just announced the suspension of the Siaya gubernatorial nominations result which gave a landslide to Oburu Odinga. Background news: some returning officers from certain stations who, to put it gently, are reluctant to go on record as having certified the earlier read tallies. Informed? isn't it in the news? www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000075333&story_title=Kenya-Siaya-ODM-Gubernatorial-results-disputedLet them do a recount or Mulolongo.. Obure will still win ;D Uhuru"TNA" sponsored spoiler candidate as rumour has it is wasting his breath.. Trying to spin it ati some returning officers are reluctant to declare Oburu winner is just the usual propaganda.. ODUOL the TNA mole as rumour has it never stood a chance, that is why he was placed in that strategic position sponsored by Uhuru"TNT" to scream foul! it ain't going to work!!!
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jan 18, 2013 22:24:25 GMT 3
wuod gem, i will be shooting from the hip. for the record may i state that the results of the siaya county polls for governor seat as given by the duly appointed returning officer are factual unless anyone, anyone at all in jukwaa or lurking could provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.spare me the gibberish of why the results were announce in bondo and not siaya and nada nada. nyagem I am being informed Franklin Bett has just announced the suspension of the Siaya gubernatorial nominations result which gave a landslide to Oburu Odinga. Background news: some returning officers from certain stations who, to put it gently, are reluctant to go on record as having certified the earlier read tallies. Jakaswanga,I just listened to Franklin Bett on phone on KTN, it is true he has frozen the Siaya governor's results. This latest development further confirms that Oduol's goose is as good as cooked. Oburu will be the governor of Siaya, case closed. If you doubt me, read Nereah above.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 18, 2013 22:26:15 GMT 3
I am being informed Franklin Bett has just announced the suspension of the Siaya gubernatorial nominations result which gave a landslide to Oburu Odinga. Background news: some returning officers from certain stations who, to put it gently, are reluctant to go on record as having certified the earlier read tallies. Informed? isn't it in the news?!!! The factual reasons which have FORCED Bett to rescind the already declared result IS NOT in the News!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 22:26:41 GMT 3
fuata nyayo wewe! where there is smoke there is always fire, except when the smoke is about rigging in ODM bedrocks! ;D why not concentrate on your backyard? central province Jubilee/uhuruto? or go back to 2007 KIBAKI RIGGING HISTORY, before you spew nonsensical diarrhea? alah! who tried to hand out presidential tickets for free? Uhuru screaming "MUDAVADI TOSHA" because the " DEVILS made him do it! he tried to rig Mudavadi in!! The Word "RIG" is identified by Kibaki and extended to Central Province and now UHURUTO/JUBILEE .!!!
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Post by kamalet on Jan 18, 2013 22:30:20 GMT 3
Informed? isn't it in the news?!!! The factual reasons which have FORCED Bett to rescind the already declared result IS NOT in the News! Jakaswanga Here is what Robert Alai tweets: EXCLUSIVE: @idaodinga personally called Bett to complain about the move to announce Oburu as the winner.She is VERY VERY MAD. #Siasa2013Now you know
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 22:31:29 GMT 3
I am being informed Franklin Bett has just announced the suspension of the Siaya gubernatorial nominations result which gave a landslide to Oburu Odinga. Background news: some returning officers from certain stations who, to put it gently, are reluctant to go on record as having certified the earlier read tallies. Jakaswanga,I just listened to Franklin Bett on phone on KTN, it is true he has frozen the Siaya governor's results. This latest development further confirms that Oduol's goose is as good as cooked. Oburu will be the governor of Siaya, case closed. If you doubt me, read Nereah above. Nonsense... Uhuru"TNA" sponsored protégé ODUAL will not manage to disrupt Saiya politics as it had been planned.. most people on the ground were expecting ODOUL to come out screaming FOUL Play.. game plan from his central province sponsors as rumour has it... Aspirant Oduol denies he is TNA mole www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-101509/aspirant-oduol-denies-he-tna-moleThis guy was BUSTED ;D ;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 22:34:08 GMT 3
The factual reasons which have FORCED Bett to rescind the already declared result IS NOT in the News! Jakaswanga Here is what Robert Alai tweets: EXCLUSIVE: @idaodinga personally called Bett to complain about the move to announce Oburu as the winner.She is VERY VERY MAD. #Siasa2013Now you know Your guy yours truly ODUOL Uhutu "TNA" MOLE was BUSTED! end of story.. he can scream shout hysterically ( as was the plan all along).. but he ain't going to be the GOVERNOR OF SIAYA.. make room for him in KIAMBU!!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 22:37:03 GMT 3
www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-103378/kajiado-tna-aspirants-cry-foulSo why aren't other results from aspirants from other parties who have not accepted results being posted here? or is it becuase Obure is Raila's brother? and ofcourse the Uhuru'TNT vested interest in Siaya by sponsoring a candidate as rumour has it, this is what they also tried to do in Western Province!! they are wasting their time.. ;D ;D
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 18, 2013 22:38:27 GMT 3
[ The Word "RIG" is identified by Kibaki and extended to Central Province and now UHURUTO/JUBILEE .!!! I will post for you --if you can read, a recent mea culpa by Prof. Nyong'o in which he as much as openly admitted 'ODM' fixing results in 2007 GE. That one could not be blamed on Gikuyu maffia. Don't worry madam, I will be back at 2007 history as soon as I finish watching Serena Williams win Australian open in two weeks! Spectacular babe Serena, don't you think?
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Post by nowayhaha on Jan 18, 2013 22:51:40 GMT 3
The latest development is mind boggling .The following are the current scenarios -There wont be repeat elections . -ODM should issue out the nomination certificate . -Time is running out and names/nomination certificate should be submitted to IEBC by Monday.
This case is closed and there is noway Oduol can be declared the winner. As Phil had opined somewhere else they should just settle for a power-sharing agreement yo save face for ODM and Raila.
This case goes to prove beyond reasonable doubt that ODM is undemocratic as it comes and reflects the party involvement in the rigging of 2007 elections , Is ICC and the whole world watching .
Why is it that the nominations in ODM popular regions were marred with violence and rigging allegations and why is it that the losers refuse to accecpt defeat and turn to the streets and violence?
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Post by afrigun on Jan 18, 2013 22:53:45 GMT 3
Let them do a recount or Mulolongo.. Obure will still win ;D Uhuru"TNA" sponsored spoiler candidate as rumour has it is wasting his breath.. Trying to spin it ati some returning officers are reluctant to declare Oburu winner is just the usual propaganda.. ODUOL the TNA mole as rumour has it never stood a chance, that is why he was placed in that strategic position sponsored by Uhuru"TNT" to scream foul! it ain't going to work!!! Reporter; I know quite a few people - registered voters in Siaya County- who feel very strongly, to put it mildy, about todays goings on. If no remedial action is taken, there may well be a major backlash. it is one thing to have a boardroom "agreement" like the one between Orengo and Oburu, but ist quite another to exhibit the kind of impunity which drives one to steal and in broad daylight! this brought Kenya to the brink in 2007/08, and the Country has never been the same again. I doubt if Siaya or Luoland will remain the same after this - especially if nothing is done about it. Casting aspersions and spreading malicious rumours - which you yourself admit are merely rumours (and only started doing rounds after the so-called gentlemans agreement aforementioned when somebody expected all other contenders to kow-tow and leave the stage for him) - does not help the situation and neither does the insistence that Oburu must be and shall be Governor, come hell or high water! People must, and will have their say, one way or another!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 23:00:15 GMT 3
[ The Word "RIG" is identified by Kibaki and extended to Central Province and now UHURUTO/JUBILEE .!!! I will post for you --if you can read, a recent mea culpa by Prof. Nyong'o in which he as much as openly admitted 'ODM' fixing results in 2007 GE. That one could not be blamed on Gikuyu maffia. Don't worry madam, I will be back at 2007 history as soon as I finish watching Serena Williams win Australian open in two weeks! Spectacular babe Serena, don't you think? A reminder! Gikuyu Mafia started by Sponsoring MUDAVADI & WAMALWA to the extend of UHURU handing over on a golden platter the JUBILEE presidential ticket directly to MUDAVADI!! " Uhuru then jumped ship with a lame excuse that 'THE DEVILS MADE HIM DO IT"The arrangement of sponsoring candidates within" ODM" as rumour has it was planned ahead, the game plan involved Mudavadi until things went south! The secrets were Leaked out with some people around MUDAVADI who were party to this inside information.. as rumour has it.. after the FALL-OUT with UHURU marraigeODOUL is said to be one of the CANDIDATES chosen in this secretive deal.. but he was busted!! THERE ARE MORE OF SUCH arrangements in place with a few other aspirants ! THEY HAVE BEEN SMOKED OUT ONE BY ONE as rumours in western province, Nyanza, right valley, coast keep floating through! MUDAVADI IS A CARBON COPY OF OTHERS THAT WERE APPROACHED TO DESTABILIZE "ODM" WITHIN AND NOW "CORD".. the best part is they have been busted in time ;D ;D ;D na mambo bado! one by one they will fall like flies!!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 23:07:59 GMT 3
Let them do a recount or Mulolongo.. Obure will still win ;D Uhuru"TNA" sponsored spoiler candidate as rumour has it is wasting his breath.. Trying to spin it ati some returning officers are reluctant to declare Oburu winner is just the usual propaganda.. ODUOL the TNA mole as rumour has it never stood a chance, that is why he was placed in that strategic position sponsored by Uhuru"TNT" to scream foul! it ain't going to work!!! Reporter; I know quite a few people - registered voters in Siaya County- who feel very strongly, to put it mildy, about todays goings on. If no remedial action is taken, there may well be a major backlash. it is one thing to have a boardroom "agreement" like the one between Orengo and Oburu, but ist quite another to exhibit the kind of impunity which drives one to steal and in broad daylight! this brought Kenya to the brink in 2007/08, and the Country has never been the same again. I doubt if Siaya or Luoland will remain the same after this - especially if nothing is done about it. Casting aspersions and spreading malicious rumours - which you yourself admit are merely rumours (and only started doing rounds after the so-called gentlemans agreement aforementioned when somebody expected all other contenders to kow-tow and leave the stage for him) - does not help the situation and neither does the insistence that Oburu must be and shall be Governor, come hell or high water! People must, and will have their say, one way or another! Nonsense!!!! we on jukwaa have contacts all over the country just like the few people you know in Saiya some of us collectively here on jukwaa know thousands who are active in politics/ citizens iwho know what they want and I can assure you not sponsored central province protoge's like MUDAVADI!, so now what is your claim in Western province? I bet you will post here screaming that MUDAVADI IS NOT A statehouse project! even after he admitted being promised the presidential Jubilee ticket directly, !! being ignorant is no excuse! The Siaya people know who is legit not ODUOL AS RUMOUR HAS IT who is a sponsored spoiler by UHURU"TNT.. just like the Western province people Know without doubt that Mudavadi is a statehouse sponsored Protégé.. ivyu tu!
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 18, 2013 23:13:30 GMT 3
fuata nyayo wewe! where there is smoke there is always fire, except when the smoke is about rigging in ODM bedrocks! ;D Leave me out of this, my friend; I'm with the eagles---soaring way above this sort of reform and democracy. But Baba-Na-Mama one must be chuckling somewhere.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 23:16:10 GMT 3
The latest development is mind boggling .The following are the current scenarios -There wont be repeat elections . -ODM should issue out the nomination certificate . -Time is running out and names/nomination certificate should be submitted to IEBC by Monday. This case is closed and there is noway Oduol can be declared the winner. As Phil had opined somewhere else they should just settle for a power-sharing agreement yo save face for ODM and Raila. This case goes to prove beyond reasonable doubt that ODM is undemocratic as it comes and reflects the party involvement in the rigging of 2007 elections , Is ICC and the whole world watching . Why is it that the nominations in ODM popular regions were marred with violence and rigging allegations and why is it that the losers refuse to accecpt defeat and turn to the streets and violence? NOPE! "ODM" IS PROTECTING IT'S TURF FROM UHURU'TNT" SPONSORED PROTOGE'S JUST LIKE MUDAVADI!.. ODUOL has no chance because as it has been repeatedly rumoured ( where there is smoke there is fire) THAT ODOUL WAS ALL ALONG A UHURU"TNT" SPONSORED SPOILER! so why should ODM take a chance on someone who was seen having meetings with Uhuru"TNT team? www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-101509/aspirant-oduol-denies-he-tna-moleA MOLE IS A MOLE IS A MOLE.. THERE IS NO TWO WAY ABOUT IT.. ODOUL NEEDS TO SEEK VOTES IN KIAMBU JUST LIKE MUDAVADI NEEDS TO SEEK HIS IN NYERI
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 18, 2013 23:32:02 GMT 3
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