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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 25, 2013 6:43:52 GMT 3
1. Witnesses and prospective witnesses have been killed, threatened, or killed. The ICC keeps marching on.
2. There have been two rounds of Scuttle Diplomacy. The ICC keeps marching on.
3. The UN Security Council has been ordered to terminate the cases without much further ado. The ICC keeps marching on.
4. The organization known as Africans for Ulessness (AU for short) has issued its standard empty threats and mindless talk. The ICC keeps marching on.
5. The idea of trials in Kenya---the Tanzanians have silently but abundantly made it clear they don't want to be involved---has had its goodbye wave.
6. The well-meaning but groundless idea of "really important guys may attend just a few sessions here and there" will meet its inevitable fate in the ICC Appeals Chamber.
Tough times. Stormy weather ahead. Etc. This could well be the time to move to Plan E:
* A threat to regional peace and back to the UNSC with an Article 16 request.
* Severe danger in Kenya that requires the full-time attention of its leaders. So much so that they couldn't possibly show up at the Hague. Perhaps an attempted coup or a threat to destabilize the government? And why would the USA and the UK take a hard line when it is their foreign embassies supplying the money for these nefarious activities?
The next few months in Kenya could be very, very interesting.
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Post by jkm on Jul 28, 2013 11:02:20 GMT 3
It seems after the shallow and lazy ruling by unsupreme court on march election hope was lost on filing the integrity against these two criminals. Even court of appeal has heeded the above judgement going by their two recent backward ruling on metemu n county commissioner. Ruto was found to have grabbed land n the story died there nobody even raised an issue abt his integrity. The two criminals are having a field n feel untouchable as thy are above the law. It will b interesting to see what happens come sept n nov.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 29, 2013 0:18:57 GMT 3
The judges don't get back for another 2 weeks, but just before they left for their summer break Ruto's lawyers filed a most agitated and desperate submission---one that makes little legal sense but makes a great deal of sense if one is to eventually sell non-cooperation to the Kenyan public. It will be interesting to see what other stunts Ruto and his lawyer have in the month before the trial starts, but the real crunch will be when the Appeals Chamber tells him trial-by-remote is largely off.
Uhuru too must be near cracking point right now, but at least, unlike his fellow Good Christians, he's got his recreational substances. But what will he and his lawyers do before November?
What we have here is what Kenyans call a mambo-bado! situation.
What is "required" on the home-front is a desperate peace-threatening situation. There, I have to say that those who have been assigned the task---Gichangi, the CID boys, etc.---are so far under-performing; they need to pull up their socks and do a bit better than the chicken shite of Omtata's little joke and Owallo.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 30, 2013 17:37:22 GMT 3
Uhuru too must be near cracking point right now, but at least, unlike his fellow Good Christians, he's got his recreational substances. But what will he and his lawyers do before November? What we have here is what Kenyans call a mambo-bado! situation. Here comes the QC, with one heck of a joke about witnesses and victims and funny statements about how things work at the ICC: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mobile-firms-case-confidential-to-protect-ICC-victims/-/1064/1931640/-/wri9kiz/-/index.html#disqus_threadThe court has previously decided that contact information of the family members of witnesses will not be provided to the Defence and that the same also applies to contacts of family members of those deemed to be at risk because of their court-related activities. The Defence, with the eager assistance of Kenyan courts, could be trying to solve a little "problem" they have in that regard. But who really know? Aug, Sep, Oct, and then it will be Nov. |
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Post by terminator on Jul 30, 2013 19:10:33 GMT 3
Uhuru too must be near cracking point right now, but at least, unlike his fellow Good Christians, he's got his recreational substances. But what will he and his lawyers do before November? What we have here is what Kenyans call a mambo-bado! situation. Here comes the QC, with one heck of a joke about witnesses and victims and funny statements about how things work at the ICC: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mobile-firms-case-confidential-to-protect-ICC-victims/-/1064/1931640/-/wri9kiz/-/index.html#disqus_threadThe court has previously decided that contact information of the family members of witnesses will not be provided to the Defence and that the same also applies to contacts of family members of those deemed to be at risk because of their court-related activities. The Defence, with the eager assistance of Kenyan courts, could be trying to solve a little "problem" they have in that regard. But who really know? Aug, Sep, Oct, and then it will be Nov. otishotish, How does that work? Is he allowed to reveal witness details to a Kenyan court? |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 30, 2013 19:59:28 GMT 3
Is he allowed to reveal witness details to a Kenyan court? Terminator: It is not clear to me that they may not, or must not, or should not. I would say that they may, to the same extent that they can make limited revelations (to a whole variety of people) while in the course of investigating witnesses. And even if that were not the case, there is nothing to stop them from revealing names without specifying that the person is a witness. What is of concern in this business is that, knowing Kenyan courts for what they are***, the case is being heard "in secret". ***See also this comment: " He added that the preliminary proceedings of the petition filed by Mr Uhuru ought to have been conducted in public before the judge making decision to bar media and public."www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000089690&story_title=icpc-opposes-petition-against-safaricom-and-airtelThe ICC cases are a matter of great national interest, and there is no reason why the public should not know the mere nature of the information being sought without also knowing the identities of the individuals the information is about; it is only the latter that should be heard "in secret". But Mutunga's court and the Vetting process is like this: A teacher has a class of only D-, E, and F students. The F students get thrown out, because they have obviously failed. The average grade of the class goes up, but it still consists of just D- and E students. Anyways ... Uhuru is now the Big Man, and I guess Airtel, Safaricom, and the judges all want to eat in Kenya. |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 30, 2013 21:38:42 GMT 3
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 30, 2013 22:09:46 GMT 3
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