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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 15, 2013 21:07:08 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on Dec 16, 2013 8:14:18 GMT 3
Oloo
First your headliner is grossly misleading...unless you mean that tree planting is a joint military exercise just because three tree trees were planted!
But there is an interesting background to the story. Many will recall the Kenya Government refused (under Kiraitu's insistence) not to sign off the waiver on US Servicemen under the Rome Statute. This action led to a swift withdrawal of US Military support under US law which decreed that this happens when a country refuses to grant the waiver when it approves the Rome Statute.
Then came the scourge of piracy in the Indian Ocean, and Kenya being the naval superpower on the east coast of Africa north of the limpopo was running too many patrols and was overwhelmed with the number of incidences that the NATO forces had to come in to help. But then it was still a problem caused by Africans and to help out the US decided to help out Kenya, but the Law prevented it to give any assistance to the Navy. So someone comes up with a clever idea of forming a Coast Guard which can be aided by the US Coast Guard. Technically, the US Coast Guard is not under the military command and like USAID could help out Kenya. So a group of Kenyan officials and a couple of Navy Officers went to Washington and were shown some patrol boats that were intended to start of the Kenya Coast Guard. But to allow for logistical planning and handing over, this was to be managed by the Kenya Navy until the Guard was in place. The arrival of NATO navies helped reduce the piracy attacks and Kenya happily took them in to be charged and jailed when the pirates were arrested at sea. At about the same time Alshabaab was becoming a force in Somalia and the tacticians at the Navy decided that the assets can be used by a naval commando unit built along the lines of the UK's Special Boat Services) in the fight against terrorism. So like the Army Special Forces and Rangers, the Navy has its own commando unit to fight warms from the sea!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 16, 2013 9:18:23 GMT 3
Kamale:
You are right.
The caption is grossly misleading.
Onyango Oloo
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Post by b6k on Dec 16, 2013 10:59:51 GMT 3
Oloo First your headliner is grossly misleading...unless you mean that tree planting is a joint military exercise just because three tree trees were planted! But there is an interesting background to the story. Many will recall the Kenya Government refused (under Kiraitu's insistence) not to sign off the waiver on US Servicemen under the Rome Statute. This action led to a swift withdrawal of US Military support under US law which decreed that this happens when a country refuses to grant the waiver when it approves the Rome Statute. Then came the scourge of piracy in the Indian Ocean, and Kenya being the naval superpower on the east coast of Africa north of the limpopo was running too many patrols and was overwhelmed with the number of incidences that the NATO forces had to come in to help. But then it was still a problem caused by Africans and to help out the US decided to help out Kenya, but the Law prevented it to give any assistance to the Navy. So someone comes up with a clever idea of forming a Coast Guard which can be aided by the US Coast Guard. Technically, the US Coast Guard is not under the military command and like USAID could help out Kenya. So a group of Kenyan officials and a couple of Navy Officers went to Washington and were shown some patrol boats that were intended to start of the Kenya Coast Guard. But to allow for logistical planning and handing over, this was to be managed by the Kenya Navy until the Guard was in place. The arrival of NATO navies helped reduce the piracy attacks and Kenya happily took them in to be charged and jailed when the pirates were arrested at sea. At about the same time Alshabaab was becoming a force in Somalia and the tacticians at the Navy decided that the assets can be used by a naval commando unit built along the lines of the UK's Special Boat Services) in the fight against terrorism. So like the Army Special Forces and Rangers, the Navy has its own commando unit to fight warms from the sea! Hehehe. Kamale take a look at the largest "ship" in our fleet:  The KNS Jasiri ...and compare that to the two boats belonging to the Japanese & Chinese Coast Guard(s) sparring with their water cannons in Jakaswanga's thread:  These double deckers look bigger than our largest gun-boat! I suppose the definition of a "superpower" is relative...  |
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Post by kamalet on Dec 16, 2013 14:52:37 GMT 3
Oloo First your headliner is grossly misleading...unless you mean that tree planting is a joint military exercise just because three tree trees were planted! But there is an interesting background to the story. Many will recall the Kenya Government refused (under Kiraitu's insistence) not to sign off the waiver on US Servicemen under the Rome Statute. This action led to a swift withdrawal of US Military support under US law which decreed that this happens when a country refuses to grant the waiver when it approves the Rome Statute. Then came the scourge of piracy in the Indian Ocean, and Kenya being the naval superpower on the east coast of Africa north of the limpopo was running too many patrols and was overwhelmed with the number of incidences that the NATO forces had to come in to help. But then it was still a problem caused by Africans and to help out the US decided to help out Kenya, but the Law prevented it to give any assistance to the Navy. So someone comes up with a clever idea of forming a Coast Guard which can be aided by the US Coast Guard. Technically, the US Coast Guard is not under the military command and like USAID could help out Kenya. So a group of Kenyan officials and a couple of Navy Officers went to Washington and were shown some patrol boats that were intended to start of the Kenya Coast Guard. But to allow for logistical planning and handing over, this was to be managed by the Kenya Navy until the Guard was in place. The arrival of NATO navies helped reduce the piracy attacks and Kenya happily took them in to be charged and jailed when the pirates were arrested at sea. At about the same time Alshabaab was becoming a force in Somalia and the tacticians at the Navy decided that the assets can be used by a naval commando unit built along the lines of the UK's Special Boat Services) in the fight against terrorism. So like the Army Special Forces and Rangers, the Navy has its own commando unit to fight warms from the sea! Hehehe. Kamale take a look at the largest "ship" in our fleet: The KNS Jasiri ...and compare that to the two boats belonging to the Japanese & Chinese Coast Guard(s) sparring with their water cannons in Jakaswanga's thread: These double deckers look bigger than our largest gun-boat! I suppose the definition of a "superpower" is relative... B6k The right word here was 'relative'. You will be happy to know that with the exception of the South Africa, Kenya's navy is the best equipped on the east coast of Africa....like they perhaps say in the Kalahari...XYZ is the tallest pigmy! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 16, 2013 23:39:38 GMT 3
Easy guys! what does planting trees mean in the navy. 1. What is Henry Rotich's pocket money to Rachel Omamo in his last trillions ksh. disbursement? 2. How much has Lady-walk Like-a-duck apportioned to the Wings, Land, and Fish departments of the KDF? 3. From these figures, add the NATO investment into the Kenya Navy and try to answer who owns the Kenyan Navy? Yes, Kamalet, that is a great imagery: we are the tallest pygmy in Lilliput! And when Gulliver comes ... The story you guys are missing is this: Kenya goes East economically, but militarily goes West. That is playing a dangerous game. The military elite and the political-economic elite should face the same direction. A matter of power decorum  . Now, my friend prof. Kagwanja at the institute of strategic studies Nairobi, is it time the Kenyan military too faced east? You saw Ruto' speech yesterday about CHINA BEING OUR TRUEST FRIEND. Why is our god-amn military still so much in the pockets of the enemy? You catch? planting trees! |
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Post by kamalet on Dec 17, 2013 0:26:22 GMT 3
Easy guys! what does planting trees mean in the navy. 1. What is Henry Rotich's pocket money to Rachel Omamo in his last trillions ksh. disbursement? 2. How much has Lady-walk Like-a-duck apportioned to the Wings, Land, and Fish departments of the KDF? 3. From these figures, add the NATO investment into the Kenya Navy and try to answer who owns the Kenyan Navy? Yes, Kamalet, that is a great imagery: we are the tallest pygmy in Lilliput! And when Gulliver comes ... The story you guys are missing is this: Kenya goes East economically, but militarily goes West. That is playing a dangerous game. The military elite and the political-economic elite should face the same direction. A matter of power decorum . Now, my friend prof. Kagwanja at the institute of strategic studies Nairobi, is it time the Kenyan military too faced east? You saw Ruto' speech yesterday about CHINA BEING OUR TRUEST FRIEND. Why is our god-amn military still so much in the pockets of the enemy? You catch? planting trees! Going into Operation Linda Nchi, the KDF went literary East buying Russian and Chinese helicopters and the two-storey trucks from China were increased. But the infantry was loyal to the G3 rifle and the M4 rifles supplied by the US though the soldiers I know who served in Somalia tell me the G3 was the more trusty rifle! I hear Kenya is in partnership with Zuma's people to develop naval vessels so we could just free the navy! As for the airforce, some chinese J-series jets will probably be flying over our skies with Obama being too stingy to let Kenya have a twin tail jet! |
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