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Post by t2011 on Jun 17, 2014 12:51:02 GMT 3
Please don't do it ,it is ill informed and a propaganda tool to your own failures , do not use the escapism theory of "oyundi".Jubilee supporters did not elect it to blame everything on Raila , but to lead and achieve goals period, we are tired of Raila this , Raila that, from icc , terrorism,tribalism, corruption, insecurity and all ills .When did Raila create all this evil deeds jubilee is blaming him of. You can cheat people but you will one day hit a dead end, enough said.
You have perfected the "tyranny of lies, ever since you were elected " but you are already burning kenya slowly , but the snow ball will be a Raila arrest.Hapatakalika be warned 2007 will be child's play. So solve your failures without incriminating Raila falsely.
This is sincere request, he has nothing to do with all the problems be-devilling Kenya no matter what political orientation you belong to.
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Post by t2011 on Jun 17, 2014 14:30:24 GMT 3
And to Ole lenku this is your preliminary test :- (answer with a yes or no, not cammarade answers)
Is Raila preaching tribalism ?
Is Raila alshabab commander in kenya ?
Who paid anglo leasing ghosts ?
Does Raila employee all kenya public servants in police from one region ?
Did Raila raise vat on virtually on all products ?
Did Raila steal and massacre people in pokot east and turkana before escaping with their cattle ?
Did Raila sign sgr contract or is he the one financing Keter to make noise on sgr rail deal?
Did Raila order eastleigh raid and deportation of somalis ?
Did Raila bomb gikomba ,eastleigh. githurai bus and now mpeketoni raid ?
Is alshabab, Raila's (cord ) military wing ?
Is Raila leading the poaching of our animals ?
Did Raila kill the australian cheki.com ceo mr Eaton?
Does Raila employ and command the security units in kenya , army , navy , police gsu , etc and give commands?
Answer the above questions truthfully or ship out your time is nay.
Your failure to above will earn you the 'Tyranny of Lies Award' actively and generously sponsored by Jubilee a.k.a 'Oyundi' government
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Post by kamalet on Jun 17, 2014 15:55:31 GMT 3
Please don't do it ,it is ill informed and a propaganda tool to your own failures , do not use the escapism theory of "oyundi".Jubilee supporters did not elect it to blame everything on Raila , but to lead and achieve goals period, we are tired of Raila this , Raila that, from icc , terrorism,tribalism, corruption, insecurity and all ills .When did Raila create all this evil deeds jubilee is blaming him of. You can cheat people but you will one day hit a dead end, enough said.You have perfected the "tyranny of lies, ever since you were elected " but you are already burning kenya slowly , but the snow ball will be a Raila arrest.Hapatakalika be warned 2007 will be child's play. So solve your failures without incriminating Raila falsely. This is sincere request, he has nothing to do with all the problems be-devilling Kenya no matter what political orientation you belong to. This is the cheapest of threats one can ever send out! No one is bigger than Kenya including this Raila character. If there is evidence that he has committed a crime, he should be locked up immediately irrespective of how his 'children' feel. Raila cannot cause the burning of Kenya by his mere 'absence' - stop deluding yourself! Teach yourself a little history, you will find it very helpful. |
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Post by kasiaya on Jun 17, 2014 21:33:16 GMT 3
Please don't do it ,it is ill informed and a propaganda tool to your own failures , do not use the escapism theory of "oyundi".Jubilee supporters did not elect it to blame everything on Raila , but to lead and achieve goals period, we are tired of Raila this , Raila that, from icc , terrorism,tribalism, corruption, insecurity and all ills .When did Raila create all this evil deeds jubilee is blaming him of. You can cheat people but you will one day hit a dead end, enough said.You have perfected the "tyranny of lies, ever since you were elected " but you are already burning kenya slowly , but the snow ball will be a Raila arrest.Hapatakalika be warned 2007 will be child's play. So solve your failures without incriminating Raila falsely. This is sincere request, he has nothing to do with all the problems be-devilling Kenya no matter what political orientation you belong to. This is the cheapest of threats one can ever send out! No one is bigger than Kenya including this Raila character. If there is evidence that he has committed a crime, he should be locked up immediately irrespective of how his 'children' feel. Raila cannot cause the burning of Kenya by his mere 'absence' - stop deluding yourself! Teach yourself a little history, you will find it very helpful. Based on the Ole Lenku's recent press briefing and Uhuru's address to the nation, it is obvious that Jubilee are trivializing the security threats afflicting the country. The recent rhetorics by this government are suspect, their pronouncements do not make sense, they seem to be following the same scripts that was followed when westgate was attacked - from outside looking in one can not help but notice politics and tribal undertones in their public pronouncements and actions (government linking politics with terrorism). Contrary to what Jubilee Government want everyone to believe, it is them who are in effect inciting Kenyans for their own selfish political reasons - they should stop burying their head on the sand and seek help from western partners if they are inept in dealing with security. The threat of terrorism requires that all kenyan are brought on board to fight it. Playing to the emotions of one group what Kamalet calls "lake Kenyatta" - whatever that means, will not help make kenya a peaceful place, a place that will be safe and welcoming to tourist from all over the world. In a functioning peaceful nation, all citizens irrespective of their political affiliations are encouraged to report any suspicious activities to the their government. For this to succeed, there must be trust inculcated in her citizenry - I'm not seeing this being the case due to unbelievable statements made by . But if they believe in what they are preaching then Kenya is in a big hole and they should stop digging. |
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Post by t2011 on Jun 18, 2014 11:18:01 GMT 3
Please don't do it ,it is ill informed and a propaganda tool to your own failures , do not use the escapism theory of "oyundi".Jubilee supporters did not elect it to blame everything on Raila , but to lead and achieve goals period, we are tired of Raila this , Raila that, from icc , terrorism,tribalism, corruption, insecurity and all ills .When did Raila create all this evil deeds jubilee is blaming him of. You can cheat people but you will one day hit a dead end, enough said.You have perfected the "tyranny of lies, ever since you were elected " but you are already burning kenya slowly , but the snow ball will be a Raila arrest.Hapatakalika be warned 2007 will be child's play. So solve your failures without incriminating Raila falsely. This is sincere request, he has nothing to do with all the problems be-devilling Kenya no matter what political orientation you belong to. This is the cheapest of threats one can ever send out! No one is bigger than Kenya including this Raila character. If there is evidence that he has committed a crime, he should be locked up immediately irrespective of how his 'children' feel. Raila cannot cause the burning of Kenya by his mere 'absence' - stop deluding yourself! Teach yourself a little history, you will find it very helpful. Kamalet stop thinking and walking your tribe as your name betrays you , your tyranny of lies with your Uhuru will sink kenya sooner than you may think , just continue hiding behind your monitor and keyboard somewhere abroad we are on the ground and we know that Jubilee govt has failed , imagine being advised by the likes of mutahi ngunyi and moses kuria , then they buy the advice hook and sinker . Pass the message to Uhuruto that arresting Raila Odinga for their own failures will be the tinder box to the end of kenya it will not be the same again , call it a naive and lame view but that is the reality even uhuru and Ruto know that . I Am a proud kenyan, walking kenya and eating kenya all the time and am happy to be a kenyan.I do not have, neither will i have another home called kenya . So be real this guys have lost it let them continue with it wasn't me mantra ati Raila this , Raila that time will tell but it will be too late. |
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Post by b6k on Jun 18, 2014 16:05:10 GMT 3
T2011, you missed the "line" between the hook and the sinker. Personally I don't see any need to arrest Raila nor do I think it's even a remote possibility. If Raila wasn't arrested during the time PEV was "white hot" by the Kibaki administration there's little need to arrest him now. There's a lot of posturing taking place right now as the political class seem to know what each side is up to but gone are the days when Raila would be worthy of being "arrestable", coming quick on the heels of the days he proved he really is no longer electable. Why bother expending state and security resources on a spent force, that to paraphrase McArthur will never die but is surely doomed to fade away?
I give CORD 6 out of 10 at the attempt to "re-invent" itself with saba saba vigor after its failed elections a few months ago. As noted by an astute Jukwaaist even Phil is back on the board spreading propaganda hot off the press from Orange House on Jukwaa just like back in the good old days when victory was at hand.
They may goad Uhuruto all they like about their inexperience but at the end the duo are in power. Methinks they'd be doing themselves a major disservice if they fell, hook, line, and sinker to the "national dialogue or face mass action" ruse...
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 18, 2014 19:54:59 GMT 3
T2011, you missed the "line" between the hook and the sinker. Personally I don't see any need to arrest Raila nor do I think it's even a remote possibility. If Raila wasn't arrested during the time PEV was "white hot" by the Kibaki administration there's little need to arrest him now. There's a lot of posturing taking place right now as the political class seem to know what each side is up to but gone are the days when Raila would be worthy of being "arrestable", coming quick on the heels of the days he proved he really is no longer electable. Why bother expending state and security resources on a spent force, that to paraphrase McArthur will never die but is surely doomed to fade away? I give CORD 6 out of 10 at the attempt to "re-invent" itself with saba saba vigor after its failed elections a few months ago. As noted by an astute Jukwaaist even Phil is back on the board spreading propaganda hot off the press from Orange House on Jukwaa just like back in the good old days when victory was at hand. They may goad Uhuruto all they like about their inexperience but at the end the duo are in power. Methinks they'd be doing themselves a major disservice if they fell, hook, line, and sinker to the "national dialogue or face mass action" ruse... --concentrating on the Podp-patented red stresses-- I was originally of the opinion that after the two princely gorillas standing atop their ethnic fiefdoms had puffed and clobbered their chests, and the forests shook and reverberated enough with their howls of machismo, they would revert to their normal wheeling and dealing --( tenderpreneurship as Jukwaa’s Notorious :-XOnyango aptly dubbed it); ... resume their ritual looting and pillage of the treasury –once so effectively symbolised by Oburu Odinga and Uhuru Kenyatta being treasury  secretaries! But watching Uhuru engage a darker tone in this Mpeketoni thingy, watching him rivet himself to the story line of the opposition as colluding with a terrorism specifically forged against his Gikuyu folk –fanning and abetting and promoting it, I could not help having the feeling he has tipped the scales past a ritualised, scripted combat show or mating dance.NB: Why were the Gikuyu targets in the Rift Valley Purge, or ethnic cleansing during 2007 PEV? And why are the Gikuyu now ''ethnically profiled'' again in Mpeketoni and Lake Kenyatta in Lamu? –T he answer in one word is LAND.The so-called historical grievances in Kenya mostly work out to disenchantment over land. And Jomo Kenyatta's accumulation of it by a process popularly called Grabbing.Just like in 2007 when people like Professor Nick Wanjohi –then Kibaki’s aide de camp, overruled Gichangi, dismissing the DGI’s contention that the Rift Valley was the hottest spots as wild and invalid, and, succumbing to their chauvinist prejudices despite their professorial minds, declared Kibera and Kisumu the epicentres of trouble instead, I think now too Uhuru’s runner is so obsessed with Raila, he has forgotten the land politics of Kenya.I have to run back to warn and laugh at William Ruto again: you want to industrialise Kenya in two decades without a Land reform, O Great Samoei? Yes, it is possible, O Great Samoiei! But when one want to discover an alternative to the already existing wheel, one have to be above a genius, O Great Samoei! If Bill Clinton said it is the economy stupid, in Kenya you could say, it is the land stupid! And for you my dear Excellency Ouru Kenyatta, your father Jomo, was the chief architect of ethnic profiling when it came to land distribution . 50 years on, it is the same ethnic profiling on the rebound... Hmmm, alternatively, Mr President, you could adopt the position of my Mount Kenya girlfriend. She told me, with a wink, we others are just jelousy of Gikuyu dynamism and entrepreneurship which elevates Mount Kenya to economic dominance over our lesser selves. We just can not compete! period. I told her, if the rest of us Kenyans are doomed to supplication before Gikuyu superiority, our envy and jealousy will turn pathological, and bring Mount Kenya down in a demonic rage! (Note that the Boers of South Africa explained their zenith position in no dissimilar fashion!) Woi woi! |
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Post by b6k on Jun 18, 2014 22:27:17 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, tenderpreneurship can only effectively be participated in when one is in the system. Now that one of the princes finds himself on the outside looking in is it really surprising that he doesn't want the other to have his cake and eat it too? Look at it another way. Raila has often made the right noises when western countries have imposed travel bans on the motherland. So pray tell, why is it that this time around after a 3 month sabbatical in New Rome he now deems it fit to add fuel to the travel advisories fire, as it were, by calling for mass action? Isn't that a cold and calculated move of economic sabotage against the country he claims to hold dear? Historical grievances you say are epitomized by the land question, eh? Just when did "history" begin in KE? Was it before colonialism or once we were under the Union Jack's yoke? I was recently reading part of the TJRC report and was amused that a section echoed sentiments I once posted on Jukwaa. That is, we have found ourselves stuck in a time warp that remains set to when the first settlers landed on our shores. The tribal boundaries they found then have remained for the most part the ones we live in today, save for some "historical injustices" in known hotspots that were "grabbed", initially by the white settlers, & subsequently by certain elites, cronies, or favored communities in various settlement schemes. Even the TJRC admits that boundaries were very fluid and waxed & waned according to cattle raids or battles for new pasture. Since we adopted the "reserves" and kipande systems boundaries took a quasi permanent setup. Is land ownership really that critical to industrialization? Did all the Europeans have their acre or two of land to enable the Industrial Revolution to take place? I think some of us take those independence era songs such as Rudi Mashambani too literally for our own good. Not everyone can be a a good farmer and even in the developed world most farmers have sold the farm and moved to towns leaving fewer & fewer farmers growing more and more produce in their highly mechanized, GMO farms, your caveat to Ciku notwithstanding 
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 19, 2014 22:53:38 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, tenderpreneurship can only effectively be participated in when one is in the system. Now that one of the princes finds himself on the outside looking in is it really surprising that he doesn't want the other to have his cake and eat it too? The ruling faction of the corrupt elite can decide to share out the spoils because they want to be inclusive in a Grand Coalition of Theft like GCG of yonder. This, if they calculate wholly locking out the other classmates –who 'lost' the elections—creates an unstable political situation, which would threaten the general class rule of the whole elite. They do not do it out of love, but out of collective self-preservation. How about cold and calculated to pressurise the ruling faction, in order to speed up the dialogue toward a rapprochement, to facilitate collective feeding and class re-bonding? Modern Kenyan nationalism!! With the formal incorporation into the British empire, and local chiefs and Kings being told they are subjects of the crown of England ---or dead the hell with them! Colonialism was essentially, before the labour exploitation, a land-grabbing exercise. Berlin conference it was. And later, the likes of Mau Mau for instance, originated as a Land Freedom army! –LAND! after the earlier wholesale decimations of the likes of Mukwawa {Hehe Rebellion} and Kinjeketile {Maji-Maji} I will leave Koitalel arap Samoei to you! Yes, at one time in history, nomadism becomes very restricted, because it leads to permanent war if your neighbours are fixed. And with the colonial state organised in a modern monopoly of violence, challenging her in standing army fashion will occasionally led to a total decimation of the resisting population as we saw earlier. The modern colonial state also needed labour to be territorially fixed, in a reserve for instance, be it a town slum, where it could be accessed when needed, and re-dumped when unneeded. Available at will. Under control like a herd of cows kept at the owners leisrue. Free to wander, but under guard, within a defined area, land. This is an important topic. No, not land ownership as such, but the system of economic relationships. It is the relationship between people, and between people and property, that defines an economic system as say capitalism as opposed to feudalism. Where capitalism is a revolutonary development/improvement on feudalism. Feudalism has serfs and landlords, classical slaves owned by a plantation owner. Modern capitalism is interested in maximum productivity and efficiency. Needs skilled specialised labour in the main. It dictates and agricultural company doing business on the land and the labourers are salaried professional workers; or the farmer is owner of own land –with a bit of cheap --subsidised rent free- loan from an [semi state] agricultural bank of course! And to produce professional workers pre-supposes many years of training ... which means an astronomical investment in the educational system! Ha Ha Ha! so Mpigs can not earn ksh 1M in Kenya. No, the money is better spent funding a JKUAT equivalent in every county! That is 47 JKUATS! You begin to catch this sh!t about LAND REFORM!? AND INDUSTRIALISATION??  It ALSO means no single person, even a the Muthamaki of Muthamakis, can own a whole province or 5 counties equivalent, just to hunt on like a private wild park, while youths idle around and the country suffers hunger. The land is confiscated and dished out to those who will work it scientifically. Speculators are killed.--Speculators buy land to sell, they are not interested in the tedious business of farming. This is correct. But of course you know new careers have come up in industrial and post-industrial society, gigantic opportunities which have absorbed the labour released from the countryside by mechanised production. The --those were the days-- theoretical natural rate of unemployment in industrial society was set at 5%! It is not like industrialised cities are hordes of slums you know. But times change. Old Motown Detroit could be 60% unemployed! (while yes-we-can Barrack is busy planning on throwing Bombs at Baghdad again) NB: In semi-feudal capitalist countries, in the rule the cities are majoritarian slums. And it is called the crisis of capitalist underdevelopment. How many slums do you know in Nairobi? And their population as a % tage of Nairobi inhabitants? |
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Post by b6k on Jun 21, 2014 9:02:06 GMT 3
No Jakaswanga, Jubilee have been categorical that there will be no sharing at the trough during this administration. Mark you Samoei Ruto who knows RAO's MO intimately seems to be the one insisting that no parley will take place with the master of mass action. Could it be because he's read from the same playbook in the past?
On the economic sabotage front, both the American and UK envoys have distanced themselves from any such moves. The Brit went as far as stating that the removal of 300 tourists by the tour operator whilst leaving behind 25,000 nationals in KE doesn't constitute economic sabotage. This was right around the time RAO capitulated and (a) postponed the Kisii and Nakuru rallies while he (b) toned down the rabble rousing saba saba talk. Hmmm....
On the Brits historical land injustices, I am fully aware they assumed or chose to believe that unoccupied and untilled land was not owned by anyone. So land purposely left fallow by design by our ancestors was expropriated. As the list of leaders you point out show, it doesn't mean it was missed by the African. The nomadic lifestyle required vast tracts of land to be tenable. The nomads themselves were extremely "warlike" to ensure that anyone who settled in their pastures would have the deterrent of constant warfare to deal with if they persisted. That was just the way things were.
So over to being "territorial fixed", didn't we have an option to "unfix" the British setup?
I still say that land need not be the sole resource against which we peg our industrialization. Can you give any alternatives?
As for a specialized workforce for modern capitalism to work I disagree with you. What you need is a specialized management. The workforce itself can consist of secondary school graduates who don't need to have an inkling of an idea of how a microprocessor works. All they need to have is the ability to follow instructions on how to do a menial and repetitive task on one facet of how to put a microprocessor together in a production line. In short, leave the big picture to management and let the drone workers do the sweaty bit. That's all it takes, not PhD's for all and sundry. Of course if we wanted to pursue a kinder gentler form of capitalism it would be in the best interests of the owners of the means of production to elevate their workers from living in the slums by providing them with company owned and subsidized multi-storied residential dwellings, buses to commute to and from work if required, and a decent living wage. A small medical package for drone & family would also do wonders for morale. GK could then reward those companies that elevate their workers standards of living by tax holidays and the like.
Instead of 47 JKUATS I would advocate 47 well equipped and specialized polytechnics some which can be tweaked to be county specific (oil courses heavy in Turkana and Lamu, coal in Ukambani, gold in Western, etc) to exploit known reserves. We need less white collar workers and a lot more blue collar hands on types. This will even help move your semi-feudal capitalist state a rung or two up the ladder, au sio?
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 21, 2014 13:09:17 GMT 3
No Jakaswanga, Jubilee have been categorical that there will be no sharing at the trough during this administration. Mark you Samoei Ruto who knows RAO's MO intimately seems to be the one insisting that no parley will take place with the master of mass action. Could it be because he's read from the same playbook in the past? 1. I think Jubilee is dithering in indecision, and divided on this. When the president agrees to meet the big wigs of the opposition for ;)tea in his State House abode ---even as he protests publicly, there is no NusuMkate in the offing, I recognise ‘other businesses’ will be discussed between the class brothers. I am ready to further insinuate  that, while there is no political NusuMkate (in the sense of sharing of political portfolios) on the agenda, the even much more important economic cake-sharing behind the scenes, would definitely be on the cards. That is the sharing out of business …. Tenders? that being the easiest looting station! I would think Uhuru Kenyatta can not just tame Raila by wielding the stick of power/force intimidation and threatening incarceration on trumped-up charges without dangling a carrot. Kenya moved on from an ICC-indictee drunkenly running her as if she were a family estate inherited from the patriarch and potentate Jomo.2. Ruto is a master politician yeah. A Raila locked outside in the cold, baying for the blood of Uhuru, fuming at the gates of the castle of power at the head of a Parisian mob, scares the living daylights out of the Gikuyu oligarchy bonded to Uhuru for their continuity, and their fear makes The Samoie indispensable to the current power arrangement. Beefing up the numbers as it were, to sustain the tyranny! Ruto instinctively knows, talk of a Kenyatta-Odinga rapprochement, immediately de-escalates tension in Kenya, and throws up other possible combinations for the Kenyatta II succession. And Mr. Itea Iringo and Madam Nancy Gitau and DGI Gichangi could just be smitten by the cooperation  bug, and release all the witnesses they procured, finally fixing Ruto for real at the Hague as they originally had intended way back in them days! No one is gonna get rid of the Samoei that easy, so long he totals tea and thinks thoughts. And let me join the partisan hate: If the elite bandies together to fix William Ruto, I for one will fight William Kipchirchir arap Ruto's corner with every ferocity in my mind. The Mungikis hired by Uhuru and his MK zealots would have wiped out all Luos in the Gikuyu majority areas on the outskirts of Rift Valley in early 2008, had it not been for Kalenjin warriors chanting one battle cry to the death: Samoei! Arap Mibei! Wabiro! Wabiro![/b] The following passage I meant for the Leaflets thread! NB: The problem is, I think Ruto may not have foreseen, that it would not just be the living daylights scared out of Ouru, but his wits too would be scattered, gone with the winds. In that implosion, the son of Jomo would mutate into [1] a Gikuyu chauvinist … Fuming Raila and co had orchestrated Mpeketoni with an ethnic profiling in content. And Behold! now from your list we read Geographical balance! Hehe! Fwakking imbecile prezzo! 2. Solitary Inhabitant of the Kingdom of Denial: Al-Shabaab got nothing to do with it! Emm .. I thought the terrorist alert was given ONLY for the coastal region and not Kenya in General. ---Not even for Nairobi with its occasional grenade tosses. You know governments like those of the UK, most of the times, in foreign policy, mouth the economic interests of the biggest player in the area. Like in the Gulf it would be BP, the oil giant. Looking at the least of UK parented companies operating in Kenya, I think indeed Cameron is right: there are always more Brits working in Kenya than touring! –And with the new oil and gas finds, I think the Brits are here to stay. Eh … Nakuru and Kisii SabaSaba rallies going on with a bleary-eyed son of Jomo pointing crooked fingers at CORD as the abetters of the Mpeketoni mayhem? That would surely be a further radicalisation of an already tense situation. Indeed that was just the way the things were. And even for the lands definitely occupied and settled by the natives, yours and my ancestors, I gather the arrogant white man, if such land pleased him, just shoved them natives aside, reasoning dangerously that natives were like wild animals, with no mental concept of ‘’owning land’’! Yet even insects, we nowadays know, are territorial creatures! But in those days, the white man just took possession of the native inhabitants too, as part of the fauna and flora of their new 0verseas dominions granted them by God! A recipe for disaster. We did have an option, still do have an option. The dismembering of local polities by a colonial hegemon and the resultant political –things falling apart-- quagmire need not be a permanent thing! I actually think you are right here, Herr b6k, purely on a scientific base. But there is the world of emotion in politics. Land is emotive. It possesses a romanticism which is the skeleton of peoples mythologies. Men die in war, patriotically singing terrifying songs like the Le Marseille of the republic of France. Land is Holy. And not just in Judea and Samaria. Land is concrete and ever visible, and in human conceptualisation, eternal. The factor Labour, ever schooling it, skilling and differentiating it, and deploying it scientifically in economic production, is of course the real rock to peg our industrialisation. But if the population is 40M, with 60% below 30, and youth unemployment is a whooping above 40%, then it means we are squandering the chief resource, leaving it to waste away. Then we have to kill ourselves over silly stuff like a few meters of ancestral land. Because our thinking is caged, unable to see a way out, yet space is getting ever more confined, and opportunies ever less, in the light of high expectations to turn our back on the semi- feudal dungeon. To be continued. Because this next portion of your missive is in a different league. see ya! But that one there is a statement of genius! so I bow out to think some! |
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Post by b6k on Jun 23, 2014 7:28:07 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, right you are that the Brits issued a warning for coast, in fact, specific zones within coast only. But if one is to believe HC Christian Turner (not Cameron), the travel company made a knee jerk reaction and airlifted its tourists. Frankly I'm with you that a more likely scenario was the airlift got the nod from the HC in Nairobi and the Home Office to not only take the action but ensure media coverage was extensive showing wazungu fleeing yet another failed African state.
I believe you're right that the Brits are here to stay. For all the celebrations being made about oil finds in KE, it must be noted that it's a British company, Tullow Oil, making them all and by Jove they'll stick around to make their profit whether we are slaughtering one another over nusu mate or not.
Ironically the cops on the ground, who have been made the fall guys by GK given their delayed response to the attacks, have a different complaint when it comes to pre-attack intelligence from GK. They are complaining that although they got a warning of attacks, it was the same general warning shared to all police posts around the country; nothing Mpeketoni specific. Indeed some of them were still in areas they had been deployed to closer to Tonononka on....ahem...political baby-sitting duties. Hmmmmm...
Yes land is an emotive subject. But keep in mind populations are rising, some faster than others. So while some lament about the lost fatherland which their numbers surely cannot fill (or put to proper use a la Ciku), others scream for more Lebensraum. Tiny Kisii and Nyamira counties, for example, are practically full at the brim with humanity. Little wonder that practically anywhere in the republic where you hear of land clashes against willing buyers from erstwhile willing sellers, Kisiis are also victims much like the "ethnically profiled" folk...
I look forward to your missive on the land question.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 24, 2014 23:15:27 GMT 3
Yes land is an emotive subject. But keep in mind populations are rising, some faster than others. So while some lament about the lost fatherland which their numbers surely cannot fill (or put to proper use a la Ciku), others scream for more Lebensraum. Tiny Kisii and Nyamira counties, for example, are practically full at the brim with humanity. Little wonder that practically anywhere in the republic where you hear of land clashes against willing buyers from erstwhile willing sellers, Kisiis are also victims much like the "ethnically profiled" folk...I look forward to your missive on the land question. This small paragraph above says it all, b6k. Land is 'fixed' ---unless ones nation is the Dutch who ingenuously fish new land out of the sea and call them polder— while population pressure is ever rising (in our countries exponentially !) How does a nation get out of this warp? Classically by the cook book, it is by creating new opportunities –lebensraum- and careers, independent of possessing land. In short, changing the economic mode, massive high tech, industrialising. Changing the economic mode is where land reform comes in. A new norm for ownership, productivity based. But - STERN WARNING- if this is seen to be unfair, a mere COLONIAL ticket robbery ---like the white settler land-grab for plantation farming was far more productive and large scale than anything the native had ever seen, but because it was geared toward exploitation/impunity and plunder, it brew rebellion and brought forth men like Robert Mugabe. Or the earlier  Jomo Kenyatta?Injustice is no way to build a future, unless the downtrodden are a minority group which can be successfully squashed or exterminated without consequences –like the native Americans before the Whiteman. NB: At 6% growth/annum, Kenya is doing fine statistically. Eurozone and New Rome would shout Hosanna if they could manage 1.5%. But if you look at the demographic differentiation, Kenya is a bomb. Too many young folk leaving school and heading into hand-to-mouth existence on the margins, surviving on their wits in the neighbourhood of crime. We need minimally 15% growth rate with massive intelligent programs to offset the school conveyor belt sorties. And so long as hordes of these young men are parked idle, with hopeless futures either in city slums or countryside dingy markets, then restless as they continually become, they will answer to the mythology of land as sacred, land as their ancestral heritage which -even willing buyer willing seller-- settlers must vacate! Or they will re-enact the traditional belief that all the neighbours cows are theirs by divine right! and the grazing planes too. And force the country to go bankrupt wasting resources on a monstrous militarized police force. Essentially a sieke! -- siege. In short, Henry Rotich must be a successful dealer in futures! If his beans beads cowries and goat-skin from the Harvard Kennedy School do not chart a bountiful pattern, then it is in the stars we will rue the day! Watch pessimists like the Oyominto already flocking to prayers to turn the tables of fortune to the good zodiacs! All hope in the Lord! I am sticking with Rotich and Kinyua, even if it is a bit of whipping dead horses! |
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Post by vascodagama on Jul 4, 2014 21:30:25 GMT 3
Please don't do it ,it is ill informed and a propaganda tool to your own failures , do not use the escapism theory of "oyundi".Jubilee supporters did not elect it to blame everything on Raila , but to lead and achieve goals period, we are tired of Raila this , Raila that, from icc , terrorism,tribalism, corruption, insecurity and all ills .When did Raila create all this evil deeds jubilee is blaming him of. You can cheat people but you will one day hit a dead end, enough said.You have perfected the "tyranny of lies, ever since you were elected " but you are already burning kenya slowly , but the snow ball will be a Raila arrest.Hapatakalika be warned 2007 will be child's play. So solve your failures without incriminating Raila falsely. This is sincere request, he has nothing to do with all the problems be-devilling Kenya no matter what political orientation you belong to. t2011, you seem to forget the most fundamental force behind the push for saba saba rally; it is hopelessness. As Kenyans generally become more hopeful, a small bunch of politicians have been feeling 'sidelined' by their former masters. To attract more sympathy, they devise this crude saba saba thing. But, the west has moved on and they know that the rally is not about the welfare of Kenyans. The miserable bunch of politicians must have hoped that they get arrested to attract more attention. BUT, the court ruling by Justice Isaac Lenaola will ensure that any arrest that could be as a result of any reckless behaviour does have strong legal basis. |
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secretaries!
that, while there is no political NusuMkate (in the sense of sharing of political portfolios) on the agenda, the even much more important economic cake-sharing behind the scenes, would definitely be on the cards. That is the sharing out of business …. Tenders? that being the easiest looting station!
bug, and release all the witnesses they procured, finally fixing Ruto for real at the Hague as they originally had intended way back in them days!
Jomo Kenyatta?
