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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 17, 2014 11:02:30 GMT 3
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Post by t2011 on Jul 17, 2014 11:40:30 GMT 3
Kusema na kutender has metamorphosised into :-
Ku-claim na ku-deny
Kusema na kulia
kusema na kukanusha
kusema na kusahau
kusema na kutender
kuomba na kudanganya
This is a lost cause they expect a ship wreak.
They are using huge resources following RAO and his brigade around while the country is in a mess , no drugs in hospital , no doctors, free primary education has become a very expensive venture ,it was better while kids paid fees, unleashing bombs on lamu people , what a confused govt.
Then hearing Governor Mutua sing a misplaced song to the first lady , what a charade? I am dissapointed to being a kenyan .
But do not get surprised when the teacher was Moi and the students uhuru and Ruto , then he graduates into a patron and political adviser . we are back to kanu days no denial .
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Post by stranger1in3 on Jul 17, 2014 13:44:03 GMT 3
Kusema na kutender has metamorphosised into :- Ku-claim na ku-deny Kusema na kulia kusema na kukanusha kusema na kusahau kusema na kutender kuomba na kudanganya This is a lost cause they expect a ship wreak. They are using huge resources following RAO and his brigade around while the country is in a mess , no drugs in hospital , no doctors, free primary education has become a very expensive venture ,it was better while kids paid fees, unleashing bombs on lamu people , what a confused govt. Then hearing Governor Mutua sing a misplaced song to the first lady , what a charade? I am dissapointed to being a kenyan . But do not get surprised when the teacher was Moi and the students uhuru and Ruto , then he graduates into a patron and political adviser . we are back to kanu days no denial . Sometimes reading such stuff makes one want to cry.diehard cordists are finding it hard to adjust to the jubilee era.They want to pretend that nothing is functioning in kenya,that the grand collusion was the best thing that happened to kenya.prepare for 2017 and stop whining.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 17, 2014 14:19:06 GMT 3
So what did these CORD characters want the government to do? Is it not right to seek advice before jumping to do something silly?
But the stupidity of it all is the claim that the letter is proof that there is an intention to arrest them!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 17, 2014 15:07:24 GMT 3
All I did was to post on Jukwaa a scanned copy of a letter purportedly written by Mr. Kinyua.
It is therefore interesting to see the emerging insinuations.
Onyango Oloo
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 17, 2014 19:46:05 GMT 3
Letter may be fake! But we know Gichangi and his M-boys have no way of telling fake letterheads from the bona-fide stuff. So as we wait for the Major General to up his game, we work with what we have! It looks like the current Prime Minister, Joseph Kinyua, the State Financial godfather of President Muigai K., is purportedly probing the legal possibilities of neutralising or politically eliminating his predecessor and current leader of the official opposition, Raila Amollo Odinga ... and his sidekicks Stevo and Weta! Kinyua is a state ‘’ancient’’, and at the ministry of Finance, a living monument. So let us prode him some, to see what he is made of, this multi-institute called Kinyua. before he became PM. www.centralbank.go.ke/index.php/board-of-directors/15-board-management/62-mr-joseph-kinyua-ps-treasury-member It is fair to say, this deep-rooted monument has encyclopaedic knowledge of the Kenyan Treasury, and its powerful arm the CBK. And that, is the problem. Just about everybody’s problem. You want answers at finance, that is your man, the institutional Joseph Kinyua.Let us take an elementary look, courtesy of the Mars Group of Jayne Mati. Mwalimu Mati of the ‘’evil society ’’ according to a prominent Jukwaaist and his fishy friends! jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/3235 www.marsgroupkenya.org/blog/2009/05/05/looting-the-budget-ksh-96-billion-missing-and-the-fraudulent-unjustifiable-approval-of-an-amount-of-kshs-267billion-from-the-supplementary-estimates-of-recurrent-expenditure-of-the-g/ jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/7037 Kinyua would know, wouldn't he? jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/5426 www.nation.co.ke/News/Treasury+on+the+spot+over+Sh714bn+/-/1056/1160892/-/wicyeyz/-/index.html TYPO ERRORS NO CAUSE FOR ALARM –Uhuru Kenyatta. NOTE: The new best-friend of Kenya in the world is the PRC, or Beijin. Joseph Kinyua would know, in the current anti-corruption purge which is the flag-post of the new emperor Xi-Jinpin, if he were serving in the Chinese mandarinate, he would long have been executed by now. That is just to remind Kinyua, that with error- )prone bureaucratic super stars like him running Kenya’s money, our Industrialisation aim is a long shot! A much more realistic shot is Kinyua’s downfall. Uhuru’s tyranny of numbers which saw him crowned President, is tenuous at best, fictitious at worst. For him to become the de facto leader of the republic like that field marshal of Egypt, plotting a siege backed by the total assurance of General Karangi and his boys would be his best shot. An monumental towerf of graft like Kinyua must know his limits, even as Prime Minister of the republic of impunity! But power does corrupt, and thus is history what it is!
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Post by t2011 on Jul 17, 2014 23:57:19 GMT 3
JOSEPH KINYUA WROTE TO GITHU MUIGAI, THEN WHAT DO U EXPECT ?then githu muigai forwarded to michael gichangi , then gichangi called muhoro after reading he telephoned karangi , then eventually to mutea iringo what a ball game of disaster , then you say kenya no tribalism in jubilee govt.
Can that mtu wakulialia man Ruto talk now , we know he is the appointed refuter in chief on behalf of kenyatta.
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Post by omundu on Jul 18, 2014 0:28:43 GMT 3
Kusema na kutender has metamorphosised into :- Ku-claim na ku-deny Kusema na kulia kusema na kukanusha kusema na kusahau kusema na kutender kuomba na kudanganya This is a lost cause they expect a ship wreak. They are using huge resources following RAO and his brigade around while the country is in a mess , no drugs in hospital , no doctors, free primary education has become a very expensive venture ,it was better while kids paid fees, unleashing bombs on lamu people , what a confused govt. Then hearing Governor Mutua sing a misplaced song to the first lady , what a charade? I am dissapointed to being a kenyan . But do not get surprised when the teacher was Moi and the students uhuru and Ruto , then he graduates into a patron and political adviser . we are back to kanu days no denial . Sometimes reading such stuff makes one want to cry.diehard cordists are finding it hard to adjust to the jubilee era.They want to pretend that nothing is functioning in kenya,that the grand collusion was the best thing that happened to kenya.prepare for 2017 and stop whining. Dude This is Jukwaa and not nipate. Stick to the matter of the thread and not diverting the story to cord sijui what ama 2O17. If you want people to wait for that year then what are you doing here discussing matters affecting the country. Just go back into the hole you crawled from and wait for that year you mentioned to practice your definition of democracy. If the letter is fake then why are the suspects mentioned quiet ? If it is actually fake then I shudder more because it shows anything, including title deeds, birth certificates, passports, I'd's etc can easily be faked in this god forsaken country without repercussions. No wonder we are in dire straits security wise. Either way, we are F####ed. The fact that people like you are blind and myopic to that fact is quite amusing.
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Post by stranger1in3 on Jul 18, 2014 8:32:19 GMT 3
Sometimes reading such stuff makes one want to cry.diehard cordists are finding it hard to adjust to the jubilee era.They want to pretend that nothing is functioning in kenya,that the grand collusion was the best thing that happened to kenya.prepare for 2017 and stop whining. Dude This is Jukwaa and not nipate. Stick to the matter of the thread and not diverting the story to cord sijui what ama 2O17. If you want people to wait for that year then what are you doing here discussing matters affecting the country. Just go back into the hole you crawled from and wait for that year you mentioned to practice your definition of democracy. If the letter is fake then why are the suspects mentioned quiet ? If it is actually fake then I shudder more because it shows anything, including title deeds, birth certificates, passports, I'd's etc can easily be faked in this god forsaken country without repercussions. No wonder we are in dire straits security wise. Either way, we are F####ed. The fact that people like you are blind and myopic to that fact is quite amusing. Omundu,please take your time to read and UNDERSTAND.my reply was specific to the lamentations of t2011.we may have different views on the perfomance of jubilee government.Calling me myopic is a bit shortsighted on your part.The problems facing Kenya did not start with in 2013.so be a little civil and stop enquiring from where i crawled from as we have the same ancestry!
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Post by t2011 on Jul 20, 2014 11:57:27 GMT 3
It is good that the jubilants are now starting to feel the heat and the smoke in the kitchen , your TNA is where it is, because of one Emilio Mwai Kibaki , he was the president of kenya for 10 years namely if you were bone yesterday 2002-2013 march , and mark you TNA is the PNU reincarnation , So do not dare say Raila this and Raila that for your 10 year sojourn in kenya miss-rule via kibaki and mundu wa nyumba theory of cronyism , tribalism and nepotism. Raila has nothing to do with it neither is cord.
Carry your own cross, Kibaki handed Uhuru a poisoned charlice and a dirty house infested with spiders and cobwebs, so baby don't cry , will keep reminding your of your failures have a good day jubilants as you walk in the wilderness of confusion , when you are totally lost come and seek for advice but it will be too late.
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Post by t2011 on Jul 20, 2014 11:59:59 GMT 3
It is good that the jubilants are now starting to feel the heat and the smoke in the kitchen , your TNA is where it is, because of one Emilio Mwai Kibaki , he was the president of kenya for 10 years namely if you were bone yesterday 2002-2013 march , and mark you TNA is the PNU reincarnation , So do not dare say Raila this and Raila that for your 10 year sojourn in kenya miss-rule via kibaki and mundu wa nyumba theory of cronyism , tribalism and nepotism. Raila has nothing to do with it neither is cord.
Carry your own cross, Kibaki handed Uhuru a poisoned charlice and a dirty house infested with spiders and cobwebs, so baby don't cry , will keep reminding you of your failures have a good day jubilants as you walk in the wilderness of confusion , when you are totally lost come and seek for advice but it will be too late.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 21, 2014 12:44:26 GMT 3
JOSEPH KINYUA WROTE TO GITHU MUIGAI, THEN WHAT DO U EXPECT ?then githu muigai forwarded to michael gichangi , then gichangi called muhoro after reading he telephoned karangi , then eventually to mutea iringo what a ball game of disaster , then you say kenya no tribalism in jubilee govt. Can that mtu wakulialia man Ruto talk now , we know he is the appointed refuter in chief on behalf of kenyatta. As they say, ignorance is bliss. All those (gikuyus) you suggested were passing the letter around actually sit on NSAC and it was their decision to seek legal advice. Perhaps what you can intelligently discuss is the wisdom or lack of it of seeking the advice from the AG.
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Post by phil on Jul 21, 2014 12:55:27 GMT 3
So what did these CORD characters want the government to do? Is it not right to seek advice before jumping to do something silly? But the stupidity of it all is the claim that the letter is proof that there is an intention to arrest them! One would imagine that an institution as high up as the National Security Advisory Committee would do than have political issues on its agenda, especially at this time when the country is virtually at the mercy of terrorists and other criminal elements. But of more concern is the apparent interference of independent constitutional offices and urging them to manipulate law so as to find a way of charging opposition leaders with treason. That is a dangerous path. One that is likely to bring chaos to Kenya. I may also ask, why was a similar directive not given for Likoni, Wajir, Eastleigh, Pangani, Likoni, etc. What is so special about Mpeketoni that NYS are on ground rebuilding houses of victims, when we have IDPs and other victims of violence strewn all over the country? It smacks of shameful double standards and profiling of citizens, much the same way SOmalis have been profiled by this seeming incompetent and dictatorial government.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 21, 2014 13:02:03 GMT 3
So what did these CORD characters want the government to do? Is it not right to seek advice before jumping to do something silly? But the stupidity of it all is the claim that the letter is proof that there is an intention to arrest them! One would imagine that an institution as high up as the National Security Advisory Committee would do than have political issues on its agenda, especially at this time when the country is virtually at the mercy of terrorists and other criminal elements. But of more concern is the apparent interference of independent constitutional offices and urging them to manipulate law so as to find a way of charging opposition leaders with treason. That is a dangerous path. One that is likely to bring chaos to Kenya. I may also ask, why was a similar directive not given for Likoni, Wajir, Eastleigh, Pangani, Likoni, etc. What is so special about Mpeketoni that NYS are on ground rebuilding houses of victims, when we have IDPs and other victims of violence strewn all over the country? It smacks of shameful double standards and profiling of citizens, much the same way SOmalis have been profiled by this seeming incompetent and dictatorial government. This is what informs Kenyan on the dangers of having some people and minds in authority if this is the kind of thinking that abounds amongst people in that dysfunctional thing called CORD. So seeking advice rather than ordering a constitutional office is deemed wrong? Do we confuse independence to mean no consultation or cooperation? Is seeking advice the same thing as asking someone to manipulate the law? Suggesting that taking action against a treasonable act would lead to chaos as similar to asking Kenyans to await the treason to be committed and then take action - do not prevent it - that is how this animal called CORD thinks! Hahaha....and then the poor somalis have been drawn into the argument. Are there any somali IDPs or do we confuse (as we do many things) refugees for IDPs?
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 21, 2014 20:03:03 GMT 3
Why does an institute of graft like prime minister Kinyua who, in a much more sensible country with a more robust anti-corruption regime, would be facing the hangman in the gallows for economic sabotage, find the courage to plot the arrest of the personification, albeit a bit tattered, of the reform process which opened up the current democratic space? It is because he knows Raila is tongue-tied on that important issue of corruption, on which he, Kinyua can be nailed: Kinyua would simply smile snd say well, you delegated your own brother to us, and we made good merry u committing those famous ksh-billion errors on behalf of the two leading, feuding mafia families: the Kenyattas and the Odingas. You forgot? What nonsense you do can utter!
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Post by phil on Jul 22, 2014 10:42:25 GMT 3
One would imagine that an institution as high up as the National Security Advisory Committee would do than have political issues on its agenda, especially at this time when the country is virtually at the mercy of terrorists and other criminal elements. But of more concern is the apparent interference of independent constitutional offices and urging them to manipulate law so as to find a way of charging opposition leaders with treason. That is a dangerous path. One that is likely to bring chaos to Kenya. I may also ask, why was a similar directive not given for Likoni, Wajir, Eastleigh, Pangani, Likoni, etc. What is so special about Mpeketoni that NYS are on ground rebuilding houses of victims, when we have IDPs and other victims of violence strewn all over the country? It smacks of shameful double standards and profiling of citizens, much the same way SOmalis have been profiled by this seeming incompetent and dictatorial government. This is what informs Kenyan on the dangers of having some people and minds in authority if this is the kind of thinking that abounds amongst people in that dysfunctional thing called CORD. So seeking advice rather than ordering a constitutional office is deemed wrong? Do we confuse independence to mean no consultation or cooperation? Is seeking advice the same thing as asking someone to manipulate the law? Suggesting that taking action against a treasonable act would lead to chaos as similar to asking Kenyans to await the treason to be committed and then take action - do not prevent it - that is how this animal called CORD thinks! Hahaha....and then the poor somalis have been drawn into the argument. Are there any somali IDPs or do we confuse (as we do many things) refugees for IDPs? There is something called separation of powers in the constitution kamalet. It seems you are the only one who does not seem to get the tone and direction of the letter from Kinyua. And again, I repeat, what was so special about Mpeketoni that cant be seen in Wajir, Linkoni, Eastleigh, Westgate, Pangani, etc? There in lies your answer.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 23, 2014 14:53:20 GMT 3
There is something called separation of powers in the constitution kamalet. It seems you are the only one who does not seem to get the tone and direction of the letter from Kinyua. And again, I repeat, what was so special about Mpeketoni that cant be seen in Wajir, Linkoni, Eastleigh, Westgate, Pangani, etc? There in lies your answer. Mr. PhilWhat do you understand (if at all) separation of powers to mean and what is the context here? All that Kinyua's letter does is ask for advice!! It does not call for any arrest or jailing of anyone! As the legend goes about the somali man in majengo...."weka argument yako bahali moja..apana hamisha hamisha!" . In Mpeketoni you wanted to know why NYS are used whilst in Wajir, Linkoni, Eastleigh, Westgate, Pangani you wondered about the directive (or rather request for advice) not being issued! To answer you - the situation is very different in each!
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