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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 18, 2014 19:57:07 GMT 3
Oops! poor judges! the president can order pending cases closed! Just like that!? Just like that! (As in a Fela Akunilapo Kuti song) Police officers control chaotic youths who disrupted a gathering in Migori addressed by President Uhuru Kenyatta on September 8, 2014. NB: Fela: Nigeria military kick elected president out! MOCKING CHORUS: Just like that? Fela: yes, just like that! chours: elected president he not complain!? FELA: what he complain? he elected corrupt! chorus: Just like that? Fela: Just like that! chorus: Odi- ooo- eee hee- republic one! uuu! Fela: Go again! Just like that! Uhuru Kenyatta ordered ship destroyed while Judge had injuction out --JUST LIKE THAT! uHURU Kenyatta ordered Migori hecklers released while case was sub judice --Just like that! anglo-leasing wiring? --just like that! Go! Go! Just like that! when you he grows up he might order inflation down, and recurrent expenditure too!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 1:56:06 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, you've said "Oops! poor judges! the president can order pending cases closed! Just like that!? Just like that! (As in a Fela Akunilapo Kuti song)"Well, the other day when Uhuru went up for a helicopter joy ride to "supervise" the destruction of a ship full of hardcore drugs;a judge had ordered that the government cease and desist from that very action. Now again, Uhuru sticks his middle finger at the judicial system, and by extension at Kenyans, and goes around making pronouncements that are outside of his jurisdiction. Compare and contrast that sort of thing with goings-on here in Canada. This is what happened to the conservative government of Stephen Harper when the courts disagreed with him. And you know what? Starting with the Prime Minister, everyone must comply with court rulings. That is because Canada is governed by the rule of law, whereas Kenya is governed by uhuru's autocracy. He, like his father before him, think of the country as a personal enterprise. Ottawa’s refugee health-care cuts ‘cruel and unusual,’ court rules"The ruling by Justice Anne Mactavish of the Federal Court in Ottawa was the latest sign that the executive branch of government and the judiciary are in open conflict...Justice Mactavish said the government’s two-year-old policy of denying health care to certain classes of failed refugee claimants amounted to cruel and unusual treatment because it intentionally targeted vulnerable children and adults. She said it put at risk “the very lives of these innocent and vulnerable children in a manner that shocks the conscience and outrages our standards of decency.” She gave the government four months to restore the health-care funding...In widely different areas, the courts have barred the Conservative government from doing what it wished to do – close a Vancouver medical clinic at which drug users inject heroin under a nurse’s supervision; turn the Senate into an elected body without provincial consent; appoint a Federal Court justice to one of three Quebec seats on the Supreme Court; limit prisoners’ right to sue over the conditions of their detention; extend sentences for thousands of prisoners without being explicit about it; and change a parole law retroactively."www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawas-refugee-health-cuts-cruel-and-unusual-court-rules/article19459837/You can watch videos on this story here: globalnews.ca/news/1432337/refugee-health-cuts-violate-charter-govt-has-4-months-to-change-court/THE JUDGE
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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 20, 2014 17:36:02 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, you've said "Oops! poor judges! the president can order pending cases closed! Just like that!? Just like that! (As in a Fela Akunilapo Kuti song)"Well, the other day when Uhuru went up for a helicopter joy ride to "supervise" the destruction of a ship full of hardcore drugs;a judge had ordered that the government cease and desist from that very action. Now again, Uhuru sticks his middle finger at the judicial system, and by extension at Kenyans, and goes around making pronouncements that are outside of his jurisdiction. Compare and contrast that sort of thing with goings-on here in Canada. This is what happened to the conservative government of Stephen Harper when the courts disagreed with him. And you know what? Starting with the Prime Minister, everyone must comply with court rulings. That is because Canada is governed by the rule of law, whereas Kenya is governed by uhuru's autocracy. He, like his father before him, think of the country as a personal enterprise. Ottawa’s refugee health-care cuts ‘cruel and unusual,’ court rules"The ruling by Justice Anne Mactavish of the Federal Court in Ottawa was the latest sign that the executive branch of government and the judiciary are in open conflict...Justice Mactavish said the government’s two-year-old policy of denying health care to certain classes of failed refugee claimants amounted to cruel and unusual treatment because it intentionally targeted vulnerable children and adults. She said it put at risk “the very lives of these innocent and vulnerable children in a manner that shocks the conscience and outrages our standards of decency.” She gave the government four months to restore the health-care funding...In widely different areas, the courts have barred the Conservative government from doing what it wished to do – close a Vancouver medical clinic at which drug users inject heroin under a nurse’s supervision; turn the Senate into an elected body without provincial consent; appoint a Federal Court justice to one of three Quebec seats on the Supreme Court; limit prisoners’ right to sue over the conditions of their detention; extend sentences for thousands of prisoners without being explicit about it; and change a parole law retroactively."www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawas-refugee-health-cuts-cruel-and-unusual-court-rules/article19459837/You can watch videos on this story here: globalnews.ca/news/1432337/refugee-health-cuts-violate-charter-govt-has-4-months-to-change-court/THE JUDGE Kathure, may be I have to apologise to the canadian system. I have frequently derided Miguna and Mutunga as products of lame Canadian carriculum! Now it would appear all is not lost in Canada --even if your Toronto Mayorial is a dynasty of a dysfunctional family! But pray tell, where then did CJ Mutunga learn to hold his peace while the judiciary he heads is overrun by an imperial presidency! Of course power corrupts and any leader unchecked will evolve into a monster, so it is only natural in that dynamic, that Little Muigai evolved into big Jomo, tearing court orders left and right. But the score is also that we do not have to pretend offices like the CJs and their occupants mean anything. if they did, they would go HO! like your lady canadian Justice! i guess I better find something else to blame in Mutunga than his Canadian syllabus! but what would it be!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:58:47 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, you've said "Oops! poor judges! the president can order pending cases closed! Just like that!? Just like that! (As in a Fela Akunilapo Kuti song)"Well, the other day when Uhuru went up for a helicopter joy ride to "supervise" the destruction of a ship full of hardcore drugs;a judge had ordered that the government cease and desist from that very action. Now again, Uhuru sticks his middle finger at the judicial system, and by extension at Kenyans, and goes around making pronouncements that are outside of his jurisdiction. Compare and contrast that sort of thing with goings-on here in Canada. This is what happened to the conservative government of Stephen Harper when the courts disagreed with him. And you know what? Starting with the Prime Minister, everyone must comply with court rulings. That is because Canada is governed by the rule of law, whereas Kenya is governed by uhuru's autocracy. He, like his father before him, think of the country as a personal enterprise. Ottawa’s refugee health-care cuts ‘cruel and unusual,’ court rules"The ruling by Justice Anne Mactavish of the Federal Court in Ottawa was the latest sign that the executive branch of government and the judiciary are in open conflict...Justice Mactavish said the government’s two-year-old policy of denying health care to certain classes of failed refugee claimants amounted to cruel and unusual treatment because it intentionally targeted vulnerable children and adults. She said it put at risk “the very lives of these innocent and vulnerable children in a manner that shocks the conscience and outrages our standards of decency.” She gave the government four months to restore the health-care funding...In widely different areas, the courts have barred the Conservative government from doing what it wished to do – close a Vancouver medical clinic at which drug users inject heroin under a nurse’s supervision; turn the Senate into an elected body without provincial consent; appoint a Federal Court justice to one of three Quebec seats on the Supreme Court; limit prisoners’ right to sue over the conditions of their detention; extend sentences for thousands of prisoners without being explicit about it; and change a parole law retroactively."www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawas-refugee-health-cuts-cruel-and-unusual-court-rules/article19459837/You can watch videos on this story here: globalnews.ca/news/1432337/refugee-health-cuts-violate-charter-govt-has-4-months-to-change-court/THE JUDGE Kathure, may be I have to apologise to the canadian system. I have frequently derided Miguna and Mutunga as products of lame Canadian carriculum! Now it would appear all is not lost in Canada --even if your Toronto Mayorial is a dynasty of a dysfunctional family! But pray tell, where then did CJ Mutunga learn to hold his peace while the judiciary he heads is overrun by an imperial presidency! Of course power corrupts and any leader unchecked will evolve into a monster, so it is only natural in that dynamic, that Little Muigai evolved into big Jomo, tearing court orders left and right. But the score is also that we do not have to pretend offices like the CJs and their occupants mean anything. if they did, they would go HO! like your lady canadian Justice! i guess I better find something else to blame in Mutunga than his Canadian syllabus! but what would it be!? jakaswanga,you can knock Canada all you want. I too knock Canada. Canada has much to answer for but nowhere near the level of disfanction that is the Kenya of today. As far as miguna and mutunga are concerned, they make choices based on their interests. That is my reading of the 2 Canadian trained lawyers. I suppose some of those choices are made within the constraints of navigating killers with $$ and power. But that understanding doesn't excuse them for the choices they make which affect millions of Kenyans. At some point they will answer for themselves. And so yes, we must look reality in the face and understand that the CJ and miguna are not necessarily working in the interests of Kenyans at large. A bitter pill that, but we grew up already and understand that a progressive today could be a reactionary tomorrow. Rob Ford the mayor of Toronto was a shock to the Canadian system. Nobody had ever seen such disfunction in any canadian politician, and there has been no process to handle people like him. You will remember though that city council did strip him of all of his powers except ceremonial ones. It's a process, no roadside prononcements like those made by uhuru. But now we know better and no other junkie like him will ever have an opportunity to play with Torontonians the way he has. Besides, if you haven't heard, yesterday he got his second dose of chemotherapy to treat a malignant liposarcoma diagnosed just over a week ago now. We've got his brother to contend with in the mayoral race, but that's a story for another day. As for uhuru he was well trained first by the father whereas the mother completed the job. We must admit that they did a fabulous job. The fruits of their labor are abundanly evident. Lastly, jakaswanga, did you mean to say "HO! like your lady canadian Justice!" Or did you mean OH? Clarify for me since you're fond of using various epithets mostly targeted at women. I do know that the word ho has various meanings, but in these times, it is generally understood to be a an insult specifically aimed at women. You seem to derive great pleasure from demeaning us, all the while articulating magnificently on the injustices facing Kenyans. I highlighted the Canadian Court to demonstrate that when the judiciary does it's job properly, it can check the powers of the excecutive not to give you an opportunity to call the judge a ho. I maybe wrong, let me know.
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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 20, 2014 23:56:23 GMT 3
Kathure, may be I have to apologise to the canadian system. I have frequently derided Miguna and Mutunga as products of lame Canadian carriculum! Now it would appear all is not lost in Canada --even if your Toronto Mayorial is a dynasty of a dysfunctional family! Of course power corrupts and any leader unchecked will evolve into a monster, so it is only natural in that dynamic, that Little Muigai evolved into big Jomo, tearing court orders left and right. But the score is also that we do not have to pretend offices like the CJs and their occupants mean anything. if they did, they would go HO! like your lady canadian Justice! i guess I better find something else to blame in Mutunga than his Canadian syllabus! but what would it be!? jakaswanga,Lastly, jakaswanga, did you mean to say "HO! like your lady canadian Justice!" Or did you mean OH? Clarify for me since you're fond of using various epithets mostly targeted at women. I do know that the word ho has various meanings, but in these times, it is generally understood to be a an insult specifically aimed at women. You seem to derive great pleasure from demeaning us, all the while articulating magnificently on the injustices facing Kenyans. I highlighted the Canadian Court to demonstrate that when the judiciary does it's job properly, it can check the powers of the excecutive not to give you an opportunity to call the judge a ho. I maybe wrong, let me know. The full sentence reads like this: they would go HO! HOLD IT RIGHT THERE! like your lady justice did to the canadian government. --She held her government up to account! Why would I in this case insult a woman who obviously did the right thing, interpreting law without fear of the state! No I do not derive pleasure from demeaning women kind, unless the occasional measured butt-slap falls here under. Purely disciplinary. And stop putting me down as a mysogynist! that one is b6k not me! --I am Scottish emanicipated!
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Post by b6k on Sept 21, 2014 15:44:51 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, whereas magnificent articulation of injustices may win you truces from certain elements, expect no quarter from b6k. Methinks you're the one who referred to some Migori MCA's as "ewes" yet you turn around and throw the misogynist tag at yours truly. Where, pray tell, have I been misogynist?
...& here I was thinking all Kenyans have been missing MO-1 and his iron fist, judging by the fond memories of naive 8-4-4's who sucked KCC's coffers dry on freebies & others who recalled total security & low food prices when the old giraffe turned 90. So you don't approve when Uhuru sinks ships allegedly having evidence in their cargo hold while a trial is ongoing? What about the declaration freeing the Migori shoe/chair throwing youths even before they had their day in court or the Nyayo-esque Migori mea culpa delegation coming to pay fealty to Muthamaki. Here I was getting that warm & fuzzy feeling that KANU will rule for 1,000 years...
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Post by jakaswanga on Sept 21, 2014 18:21:57 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, whereas magnificent articulation of injustices may win you truces from certain elements, expect no quarter from b6k. Methinks you're the one who referred to some Migori MCA's as "ewes" yet you turn around and throw the misogynist tag at yours truly. Where, pray tell, have I been misogynist? i was apparently under the illusion I could make a subconscious appeal at male-bonding --a term I learnt from Kathure during my early days on Jukwaa. Obviously I was hugely mistaken --you in deed stay true to your sickening reputation of taking no prisoners! Pray, tell, O b6k, to which dungeons do you hold Ol'Otishotish prisoner? that he --O poor soul, no longer shows face at this Oloo's concentration camp!? Blame it on us teachers! instead of standing infront of the class talking history and civics, we were running our ramshackle matatus and kiosks around markets! the results of that mass absenteesm is clearly visible in the 8-4-4s we rolled out the conveyor belt! --total retards! defect products! when presidents can say let there be no case and there was no case! then you know we can as well start calling Mutunga Amos Wako! very clever, but always his master's dog! The brazen contempt Uhuru has shown for the due process of law has some charm. That is, it calls the bluff of the second liberation so called to bring to heel the imperial presidency. here I am, Imperial as ever, he says! mta do!? he is inviting some man or woman of balls to dare cut him down! it is the charm of a top predator surveying minions with a cold eye, sure their balls are crawling up their thighs! daunted!
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