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Post by Horth on Nov 24, 2014 17:49:07 GMT 3
You won't get podp'd for the following reasons: Twas in jest but I dost think OO as the head-honcho of Jukwaa should now be the one to deal with podp's contributions as ably pointed out by your good self otherwise it's now distracting from the whole point of this thread. I regretfully have to say this even though I find your stance to be 102% correct. Peace.
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Post by podp on Nov 24, 2014 20:48:45 GMT 3
Jakaswanga,Funny. I remember writing in 2010 about Raila’s failings as a political wheeler-dealer and am pleasantly surprised that my thoughts from yore still (at least to me) have relevance even up to date. I honestly believe that Kajwang was never an asset to RAO but more of a liability than anything else. In 2007, I was a more rabid supporter of RAO and probably a better rally dancer than our dear Phil. Unfortunately, due to various incredible and downright stupid things done by RAO’s circle of close friends….and RAO himself, I found myself drifting, nah speeding, away from RAO at an astonishing clip. I seem to recall a saying which goes “Show me your friends. I will show you your future.” And before I get podp’d, those are not my words but I simply can’t remember who said them and am too lazy to Google. RAO would be highly advised to heed those words otherwise his chances of even becoming the governor of Nairobi will dwindle down to negative territory.... RAILA LOSES 40% SUPPORT - IPSOS POLL red high light never allow men of letters probably freezing in old and cold Europe and America intimidate you. their job is to take instructions and ably represent you in a court of law. otherwise while having a massive one the latest release is that The public service will be preceded by another for family and close friends at the Nairobi Central SDA Church starting at 8am to 10am. “We will hold a public viewing and interdenominational prayer meeting from 10am and the journey to go to Waondo will start on Thursday. We will go through Kisumu’s Jomo Kenyatta Sport Ground where there will be another public viewing, thereafter the entourage will move to Waondo via Mbita. On Friday we expect to have the burial,” Mboya said. The significance of the Uhuru Park prayers will not be lost to many who will remember Kajwang’s last public address at the site was during the CORD Saba-Saba rally in July. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2014/11/kajwang-service-to-be-held-at-uhuru-park-wednesday/
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Post by podp on Nov 24, 2014 20:55:59 GMT 3
Here is an example of what should be podp'd: ( The writer is responding to Jakaswanga's original thoughts.) The first paragraph, of dubious relevance, has again simply been lifted from Mkandawire's paper, but you wouldn't know it. Nothing to indicate the borrowing or what it is doing there. Just thrown in for the "neopatrimonialism". Still, the whole thing is an improvement from "borrowing whole pages", throwing in a couple of badly written sentences, and flogging it off as one's own. This time, in a rare feat, the writer has come up with a whole paragraph of his own. What I was trying to do was encourage the fellow to see that intellectual theft is a serious matter and also that he would serve himself better if he worked on having his own thoughts and communicating them clearly (rather than just creating, with stolen work, big-word mumbo-jumbo and piling it in). red high light Is it possible to have an entirely original thought? The other day I tested this by trying to think of a colour that didn't already exist, I came up with combinations of colours but I could not come up with an entirely original colour. This made me think that we are restricted to what we know to some degree, no matter how open minded we may think ourselves to be. www.ted.com/conversations/16608/is_it_possible_to_have_an_enti.htmlso my good friend continue trying to be a grammar teacher it may become handy as you age as grandchildren need to relate with a grand one
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Post by OtishOtish on Nov 24, 2014 21:30:08 GMT 3
so my good friend continue trying to be a grammar teacher it may become handy as you age as grandchildren need to relate with a grand one It is not grammar, my friend. Yours is (a) Extensive intellectual theft, over a long period, that is well-documented on Jukwaa. Contrary to what you think, intellectual theft is a serious matter. (b) The inundation of Jukwaa with "deep-and-heavy" gibberish, again over a fairly long period. That sort of thing might have some use in a Form-One debating session. Not here, buddy. I urge you to lift yourself out of that unfortunate pit. Exactly! Finally, RAO is ism-ed and exposed!
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Post by abdulmote on Nov 24, 2014 21:48:38 GMT 3
Reluctant as I was, I think a third intervention here is in order and I will try to be brief:
I have to say that Otish was not alone in his observations made against podp's various contributions. Frequently I have also had to scratch my head for our otherwise good professor. And now this.
Personally, I am very much against any type of theft committed by others against their property, material, intellectual property or of any other kind. Copying and pasting literary works originating from others and presenting them as your own, irrespective of the forum they may have been dished out to is theft! Plagiarism they call it or intellectual theft it may be, there can never be a justifiable excuse.
OK, podp may perhaps want us to believe that this is not so much of an intellectual crime, given the forum and potential of its readers, or the manner he may have obtained the subject information or its status of being, published or otherwise. To some, including this writer, not acknowledging a significant literary piece and in particular, presenting it as if it is your own...that is theft, pure and simple! And I have hated having found myself to have been a victim a number of times, however petty the contents may have been.
Plagiarism is an intellectual crime. Of all the people, our professor should have known better! Alternatively, podp should dedicate time and convince us that that should not be the case and that we are wrong in making such conclusions. Authority for the same must provided. 'Original' ideas, in this case, will not suffice! If podp should be able to do that, I promise to be the first and humble enough to offer my apologies and indeed ask for forgiveness out of my ignorance.
Now then, I think Otish has made his point and a valid one at that. I am sure many have watched this episode within unfold, perhaps with keen eye and desire for an apt conclusion.
Podp, my fellow jukwaist, with all due respect, please gather your courage and deal with this in a desirable and brave manner worthy of a learned person. Alternatively, silently amend your ways and hopefully we shall for once or at last have the confidence to see your writings as those written by podp and not, presumably and potentially, misappropriated from some unknown author from unknown place. And please treat this message with seriousness it deserves. Some of us must be a lot older than yourself, and I say this out of simple respect I have towards my younger brothers in humanity.
Baadae.
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Nov 24, 2014 23:40:27 GMT 3
Now, this is turning into an interesting thread.
My eye was caught by the contribution on Kajwang’s wives and their relationship or lack of it to Orengo, a Siaya man “dwelling” on matters of one from South Nyanza. Will Orengo “inherit” Kajwang’s wives - not sure how many they are as I write, not possible says my yawa thinking.
Poor Kajwang is forgotten and now the topic has shifted to theft or it is passing off someone’s ideas as yours!
Let me dive in.
According to wikipedia, theft which is a crime means the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
While, passing off which is a tort is an act of misrepresenting the ownership of property from another as yours.
* NB. the definition are copyrighted to my cat -be warned, he will sue!
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Post by OtishOtish on Nov 25, 2014 0:01:18 GMT 3
Now, this is turning into an interesting thread. My eye was caught by the contribution on Kajwang’s wives and their relationship or lack of it to Orengo, a Siaya man “dwelling” on matters of one from South Nyanza. Will Orengo “inherit” Kajwang’s wives - not sure how many they are as I write, not possible says my yawa thinking. Poor Kajwang is forgotten and now the topic has shifted to theft or it is passing off someone’s ideas as yours! Let me dive in. According to wikipedia, theft which is a crime means the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it While, passing off which is a tort is an act of misrepresenting the ownership of property from another as yours. * NB. the definition are copyrighted to my cat -be warned, he will sue!
He, he, he, ... Counsellor Sadik, you are one heck of a funny guy! I'll leave it to podp to argue his case that he "torted" it rather than stole it.
In the meantime, for some reason, the following, interesting, thread comes to mind.
jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/8767/icc-imperialist-court
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Post by abdulmote on Nov 25, 2014 0:07:16 GMT 3
Sadik.
An act of theft is not one of strict liability. Whilst its definition can be provided through sources such as the Wiki... or indeed as described under the Theft Act, ultimately whether an act of theft has been committed can be left to the tribunal of facts...besides, there must be a difference between describing what an act is and alleging that someone has acquired the title of a person having committed the act so as to suggest a "tort" of something!
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Post by b6k on Nov 27, 2014 1:10:10 GMT 3
Had OO paid keener attention to the content inside his buddy, Miguna Miguna’s, "Peeling Back The Mask" book while he toured the country with the author he would have realised that whatever credentials RAO may hold, progressive isn't one of them. After all he saw first hand as he & Miguna Miguna were Magerered at a book launch in the coast at slingshot point. They experienced the intolerance from the Sanhedrin in Kisumu when they had to be rescued by the police at another book launch. None of these & other close calls were ever condemned by the "progressive" RAO. b6k:I have opted to respond only to the above segment of your comment. If you, b6k had paid keener attention to my interactions with my close friend Miguna Miguna, you would have realized that he and I had differing assessments on the place of Raila Odinga in Kenyan politics. First of all, I believed that the fall out between Miguna and his boss were as a result of non-antagonistic contradictions. I will not, at this point in time, delve into the full meaning of all that seemingly esoteric Marxist jargon. Secondly, I believed and still believe that despite his obvious ideological, political and human shortcomings, Kenyans could NOT, willy nilly, expel Raila Odinga from the reformist camp. At the launch of his second book, Kidneys for the King, where AGAIN, I played the role of MC, Miguna stated publicly-and it was widely covered by the press-that his friend Onyango Oloo was going to vote for Raila Odinga while he, Miguna, had just endorsed Uhuru Kenyatta. Miguna was of course, referring to myself. Unfortunately, the enraged Jubilee supporters, on hearing this, assumed that it was my name sake, the TNA Secretary General who had apparently switched camps at the 11th hour to vote for his ethnic kinsman, rather than the man who was signing his cheques!Onyango Oloo NairobiOO, the funny thing about life is it tends to give very slim windows of opportunity. Miguna Miguna’s "Peeling Back The Mask" came out at the right time & had the intended impact. By the time he was analyzing the king's kidneys, the damage to RAO was a done deal so the second effort at a tell all was pretty much irrelevant. After all, if you've done one tell all what more is there to say? Likewise RAO had his best chance at the cherry in 2007. 2013 showed that things can only go south after 3 attempts at the top job as his third time wasn't lucky either. Last time around the old man could barely stand during the 2 hour plus long presidential debates. Is he really up to trying that again come 2017? His window of opportunity has been unusually wide, but judging from the rather undemocratic (s)elections via boardroom democracy at ODM recently the Young Turks, many of whom have been placated with unconstitutional offices for now, will eventually have their day at Orange House. 20 years pursuing the same seat will be a bit of a stretch, even for the mysterious one. I really won't bother getting into all the talk about ideology or reforms because to be honest, RAO doesn't stand for anything but himself. The contradictions & character flaws are maduong. If anything watching the proceedings at Kajwang's Uhuru Park memorial yesterday, something many have always argued became abundantly clear. National Assembly Speaker, Justin Muturi, was called to address the crowd. The masses would have none of it & obstreperously heckled the Jubilee man. All the efforts of the likes of Orengo or Ongoro to have the mob allow Muturi to speak fell on deaf ears. It wasn't until RAO himself came forward & spoke to them in Dholuo that the crowd instantly & magically calmed down to the point that Muturi who had been making a beeline to the safety of his chair was called back & addressed the crowd without a hitch. Doesn't it make you wonder why a similar command wasn't given to the likes of the "Conqueror" when he had you & Miguna in the sights of his slingshot? But look on the bright side. 2017 will be Uhuru's election to lose as the incumbent, much like RAO found himself in a similar position in 2013. Pray (ok since socialists don't pray, hope) he continues to misstep by attending Formula One races while Kenya is burning. Or better yet that he mispeaks as he did on matters security when he placed the buck for our safety squarely on Kenyans because we all can't have a personal policeman as his ADC peered over his shoulder...
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Post by podp on Nov 28, 2014 22:57:22 GMT 3
Now, this is turning into an interesting thread. My eye was caught by the contribution on Kajwang’s wives and their relationship or lack of it to Orengo, a Siaya man “dwelling” on matters of one from South Nyanza. Will Orengo “inherit” Kajwang’s wives - not sure how many they are as I write, not possible says my yawa thinking. Poor Kajwang is forgotten and now the topic has shifted to theft or it is passing off someone’s ideas as yours!Let me dive in. According to wikipedia, theft which is a crime means the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it While, passing off which is a tort is an act of misrepresenting the ownership of property from another as yours. * NB. the definition are copyrighted to my cat -be warned, he will sue! Rahmatullahs-The One • 6 hours ago wrote... It's not going to happen.The President is not going to resign over the security issue.In the history of Africa and its Presidency how many have? The opposition is barking the wrong tree and that is not the way to go about solving insecurity in Kenya.Let every county have responsibility to its local to be safe.Senators,Governors and MPs from counties should be held responsible to see that their area is safe.Them are the ones , we can ask to resign if they don't perform. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/ODM-wants-Uhuru-to-resign-over-insecurity/-/1064/2537562/-/46h553z/-/index.html
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 29, 2014 17:41:55 GMT 3
A bird at hand is worth two in the bush! thum wero mana ng'a ma nitie! Of rowing with broken oars! flying with broken wings, dwelling with broken swords!
I grew up on the tales of the burial of Tom Mboya Ndiege, and another fellow called Odhiambo. (I will trawl youtube to find out if the songs have been uploaded, and link them here). The transportation of their bodies –--via Nakuru, Kisumu, HomaBay and Mbita harbour, with public viewing in the case of TJ--- and subsequent burials in Rusinga, were immortalised in poetic song. George Ramogi's Rapar wuon Osimbo, evolved into a community's monumental teardrop of grief. It had words like .. Knowing these words by heart, having internalised these lyrics under the authoritarian dictate of my fisherman father, in addition to the other tunefully mournful ones aired in memory of Arguings Kodhek by the same George Ramogi aka Omogi omin Akumu, I was kind of following the adventures of the Otieno Kajwang' cortege, with a malicious if amused de-ja-vu grimace!
A second serving of the same historical event with spin-doctors working their gimmicks, mutates into farce as you know. And god, don't I have a long memory! (When Ramses II –-that is the greatest Ramses, finally died, a scribbler opposed to incestuous marriages recorded a blasphemous thought: ''now that the old seedy goat is dead, one hopes dear Egypt shall have a moral revival! ''Desist from screwing ones offspring, beasts of Egypt!''
So these last days guys like me were on hand to inoculate against mimics who, courtesy of the the ODM-PR machine, concocted gimmicks and false narratives, some of them as dastardly as to excommunicate Vivian Faith Otieno Kajwang' and her nyikwa-Nyakwamba children!
–--Be usenenoe Jasiasawa kata achiel Kisumo ka, kogiyo kuot, kogueyo Nying Nyakach Ochuka …... Nyabondo! Nyabondo! Ker! Ker! Katito! Sondo! Pap Onditi! Nyamaroka! AAAAh, Ochuka Kuodi!
So when people like the Living legend Agwambo, clad in regalia, do their Sigueya and carefully avoid the deadliest chant in Luo mapambano cultus –-the Nyakach Ochuka trumpet call, it is a homerun for spoilers!
Kajwang's last journey was a parody of for instance the last journey of CMG Kodhek as told by George Ramogi Jaweta.
KODHEK ONINDO BY GEORGE RAMOGI, SELECTED LYRICS.
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Post by b6k on Nov 29, 2014 18:22:38 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, is the Sigueya the ceremony that required RAO to clad a monkey skin? I heard a Citizen anchor demystify the traditional bits when he explained that whatever monkey lost its skin for that is very hard to catch & it's a mark of the highest honor for one to wear it. For once I agreed with Otishx2 that every now & again we should thank the mzungu for landing on our shores.
Meanwhile poor Kajwang had his coffin draped with an orange ODM flag, "Chungwa Moja, Maisha Bora". To not qualify for the "piece of cloth" (what was the phrase Sally Kosgei used in reference to my avatar?) meant he could only have a party flag? The way Kenyans change parties one wonders whether the banner will still be orange come 2017 as boardroom deals continue to send shockwaves in the opposition.
PS: your final contribution is in shortwave, much like 90% of Kajwang's funeral proceedings were, national live broadcasts by several channels notwithstanding. Care to translate for those of us who can't speak the national-language-in-waiting?
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Post by OtishOtish on Nov 29, 2014 18:50:50 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, is the Sigueya the ceremony that required RAO to clad a monkey skin? I heard a Citizen anchor demystify the traditional bits when he explained that whatever monkey lost its skin for that is very hard to catch & it's a mark of the highest honor for one to wear it. For once I agreed with Otishx2 that every now & again we should thank the mzungu for landing on our shores. Wow, wow, wow! Hold it right there, buddy! OtishOtish has never stated any such thing ... even if he has had all sorts of unstated thoughts on things like the barbarism of FGM and on which his views have nothing to do with wazungus. Anyways ... If Raila was dressed up in skins & fancy headgear and carried a spear, then he was in full warrior-combat-gear and engaged in the very important business of dealing with Evil Spirits. And, if he did things right, videos will probably show him stabbing at them and chasing them around, although they will not be visible to the "untrained" eye. Seems perfectly in order. To my mind, if there is a practice that now needs to change in such matters---and it has nothing to do with wazungu---it is probably the endless feasting ... to an extent that can leave the bereaved destitute as livestock, money, and other resources find their way into the bellies of assorted "mourners". And there is even a funeral song that seems to encourage this! It says something like Only that which ends up in your stomach is truly yours. The rest you should pretty much forget. The tradition was well-meant at one point, and even the song probably has a whole range of meanings----from the old " you can't take it with you" to a more philosophical " make the most of this life while you are still alive and with whatever you have at hand"---but still!
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 30, 2014 9:23:56 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, is the Sigueya the ceremony that required RAO to clad a monkey skin? I heard a Citizen anchor demystify the traditional bits when he explained that whatever monkey lost its skin for that is very hard to catch & it's a mark of the highest honor for one to wear it. Amigo b6k, here is the tutorial you missed in an earlier thread, commemorating the passing of the Great Teacher Dr Adhu Awiti On the monkey skin, there is a bit of monkey business there. Classically, there were other animals whose skins denoted more prestige, a leopard and a buffallo --Jowi! Jowi !. But at one time these Big Game became either protected -- only your sometimes friend the White Man was licensed to hunt them for his fun; or extinct! and during colonial msetos across the countrysides to collect hut taxes, homes which boasted prestigious collections of exotic animal skins, of course lost their valuables. And so we culturally adapted by switching over to available game. Monkeys come a dozen a dime in Luoland! NB: So too with the Maasai: you remember to show manhood of old, the Ole's had to kill a lion single handedly? Well, Tombo the young Masai who went to Makerere college was the last of the classical lot! these days do the Ole-Lenkus, Metitos, Kaparos, Tipis's, or Saitotis look like fellows who dared the jaws of a lion, other than from the pages of safari book? No! wrestling an old goat to the ground is the Maasai ritual of passage nowadays ---that is what I came across at Embakasi Maasai camp, when I went for a weekend sleep-over at my brother's city watchman's. (I was looking for a Maasai wife at that time, because Gringo Mank was demanding an exhorbitant number of goats for his sister!) So if your citizen commentator did not give you the scientific name of the late monkey to prove its rare geneology, you were played for a sucker by an amateur of no authority! --Monkeys are clever, but how hard are they to trap, really? what can I say? may be Nyanza si Kenya! With Migingo and all the fish gone, and Field Marshall Julius Karangi and his C-in-C Muigai can not even cough at the agressor M7! Ahem! I am learning Kikamba as the new national language. The much underrated Kalonzo Musyoka could just be the ideal transitional figure the nation needs. He is the least thief of the lot!
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 30, 2014 9:54:50 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, is the Sigueya the ceremony that required RAO to clad a monkey skin? I heard a Citizen anchor demystify the traditional bits when he explained that whatever monkey lost its skin for that is very hard to catch & it's a mark of the highest honor for one to wear it. For once I agreed with Otishx2 that every now & again we should thank the mzungu for landing on our shores. Wow, wow, wow! Hold it right there, buddy! OtishOtish has never stated any such thing ... even if he has had all sorts of unstated thoughts on things like the barbarism of FGM and on which his views have nothing to do with wazungus. Okay, I will hold it, but not for long! that time, if you remember, you were not Otishx2, but clad in monkey-skin alias of the brand name NJAKIP! Anyways ... may be the two are twins, which does not mean they are the same person or thing! inflation is such one evil spirit! corruption is another! unemployment, insecurity ,,, you would wish for a Hercules to do the seven heroic labours in a day's work, including cleansing the Kenyan stable of rotten Mpigs! This practice is the world upside down. Originally every mourner came with at least the value of what he expected to eat, such that at the end of the rites, the books would balance, but ideally, a small credit remain with the bereaved. But these days, the Luo folks come ka ' giselwoko yigi', in which case they are nothing less than a swarm of starved locusts descending on an already bereaved homestead! yes, because the alienated post-colonial elite changed funerals into ostentatious displays of spree spending of the ill gains from state looting! a decadent show of prestige, a boast of ability. Its called nihilism. One will remember in capitalist society, people die, leaving behind stupendous wealth to be inherited. The stomach cult which wants to leave nothing behind, belongs not to the animal kingdom, where parents are known to sacrifice everything that their offsprings prosper! Right there Otishotish in red, you capture the total collapse of a system! an economic suicide cult!
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Post by podp on Nov 30, 2014 11:02:00 GMT 3
Wow, wow, wow! Hold it right there, buddy! f Raila was dressed up in skins & fancy headgear and carried a spear, then he was in full warrior-combat-gear and engaged in the very important business of dealing with Evil Spirits. And, if he did things right, videos will probably show him stabbing at them and chasing them around, although they will not be visible to the "untrained" eye. Seems perfectly in order. inflation is such one evil spirit! corruption is another! unemployment, insecurity ,,, you would wish for a Hercules to do the seven heroic labours in a day's work, including cleansing the Kenyan stable of rotten Mpigs! This practice is the world upside down. Originally every mourner came with at least the value of what he expected to eat, such that at the end of the rites, the books would balance, but ideally, a small credit remain with the bereaved. But these days, the Luo folks come ka 'giselwoko yigi', in which case they are nothing less than a swarm of starved locusts descending on an already bereaved homestead!while growing up I saw what you state practiced by my grandMa and Ma. we would never attend a funeral without carrying food (dried maize, live chicken or goats etc.) so the idea was not to go there and feast. even weddings we contributed in kind so that the newly weds would start life on a positive footing, financially and materially plus the added good will that the whole village welcomes the bride. however nowadays we have the 'super rich' as the Kajwangs of today pass in the villages where they were born. last time I took friends to the home of the late Tom Mboya for example we passed Homa Bay drove with land rovers to Mbita as the road was black cotton soil and when it rains the Lambwee Valley can be treacherous for cars so we kept on track roads close to Ruri hills all the way. before crossing the causeway to Rusinga we passed Kajwangs house with the Safaricom mast erected on his piece of land. the locals sold the idea that it was him as an MP who bright the network to them and thus to those whose life ends at class 8 and they become fishermen and marry fellow class 8 he is a messiah. his modest house then (less than 4 bedrooms was single story) and soo too was Mboyas siblings who were settled nearby and we were told one daughter was Governor Kidero's wife (that time we did not know Kidero was causing havoc at Mumias sugar company). fast forward and our son Kajwang reached a bigger potato (Immigration Minister in the GCG) ....eating 'big' started and hence Rose returned and was installed at Runda and a 'church' marching residence built for her in nyalgunga aka Mbita, while Faith was maintained as before with kshs 5,000 on request by mPesa. last week we were shown at Kitengela (some 18 or so kilometers from Nairobi on Namanga road) the joints the Kajwangs and Duales go when they 'want to be touched' by small girls (mPigs call them low mileage as opposed to the Faiths and Roses who have 20+ year olds). so the culture of 'eating' or feasting has become entrenched in the mindset of our people. when the mPigs visit this joints swarms of beauties appear with the pimps usually young toughies in the background and the culture is the mPigs buy booze, buy the young ones so that they can be 'touched'. so while PORK is taking selfies in UAE the Sonkos do the same in the beach hotels while the Kajwangs repeat it in Kitengela in their 'small big' ways depending on which side you belong. so when they die the hoi polloi attend their funerals to feast as they never shared with Roses and Faiths the kshs 500,000 non citizens were buying citizenship
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Post by b6k on Nov 30, 2014 11:55:14 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, thanks for the tutorial. As for Jowi!, during the memorial service at Uhuru Park the visually challenged Amos Wako (if you've ever seen him with his glasses off he appears to have the eyesight of a mole...& by that I mean the actual animal, not that he is a Jubilee mole) almost fell off the stage while shouting Jowi! & doing the mock charges. All the best in learning Kikamba. I hear language skills are picked up quickly if one has a tutor of "low mileage"...
Podp, what a pleasant post! Your harsh task master, Otishx2 (apologies if I misquoted you on mzungu), has accomplished something with his Kwale-cane-to-shoulder after all. What the fishermen didn't realize is that not only did Kajwang bring Safaricom service to them, he also made a bit of dough as the cell providers often pay the landowner some rent...it was in the region of KES 300,000 per annum last I heard.
As for Rose & Faith, I found it a tad cold that Faith & her two grown children were only to be seen, not to be heard, 19 years of cohabitation notwithstanding while Rose stamped her 32-years-with-my-man authority in case anyone doubted her status. Only the "first family" was allowed to speak. Coincidentally they are both blessed with a daughter & a son each.
Now when it comes to low mileage "touching" escapades I'm still all ears as to which "wife" rushed Otieno Kajwang to the Mater Hospital. Rose resides in a mansion in the leafy suburb of Runda while Faith lives in a house in Langata. How did GOK end up in a hospital roughly in the middle of both his homesteads, a sort of no man's land? The initial press reports of who took him to Mater were really all over the place & downright contradictory...
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Post by abdulmote on Nov 30, 2014 14:25:48 GMT 3
NB: So too with the Maasai: you remember to show manhood of old, the Ole's had to kill a lion single handedly? Well, Tombo the young Masai who went to Makerere college was the last of the classical lot! these days do the Ole-Lenkus, Metitos, Kaparos, Tipis's, or Saitotis look like fellows who dared the jaws of a lion, other than from the pages of safari book? No! wrestling an old goat to the ground is the Maasai ritual of passage nowadays ---that is what I came across at Embakasi Maasai camp, when I went for a weekend sleep-over at my brother's city watchman's. (I was looking for a Maasai wife at that time, because Gringo Mank was demanding an exhorbitant number of goats for his sister!) So if your citizen commentator did not give you the scientific name of the late monkey to prove its rare geneology, you were played for a sucker by an amateur of no authority! --Monkeys are clever, but how hard are they to trap, really? Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/9218/bury-otieno-kajwang-all-deadwood?page=2#ixzz3KY9Qc8cW"wrestling an old goat to the ground..." No wonder the psychopathic shababs are getting away with so much!
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 30, 2014 16:53:16 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, thanks for the tutorial. As for Jowi!, during the memorial service at Uhuru Park the visually challenged Amos Wako (if you've ever seen him with his glasses off he appears to have the eyesight of a mole...& by that I mean the actual animal, not that he is a Jubilee mole) almost fell off the stage while shouting Jowi! & doing the mock charges. All the best in learning Kikamba. I hear language skills are picked up quickly if one has a tutor of "low mileage"... Podp, what a pleasant post! Your harsh task master, Otishx2 (apologies if I misquoted you on mzungu), has accomplished something with his Kwale-cane-to-shoulder after all. What the fishermen didn't realize is that not only did Kajwang bring Safaricom service to them, he also made a bit of dough as the cell providers often pay the landowner some rent...it was in the region of KES 300,000 per annum last I heard. As for Rose & Faith, I found it a tad cold that Faith & her two grown children were only to be seen, not to be heard, 19 years of cohabitation notwithstanding while Rose stamped her 32-years-with-my-man authority in case anyone doubted her status. Only the "first family" was allowed to speak. Coincidentally they are both blessed with a daughter & a son each. Now when it comes to low mileage "touching" escapades I'm still all ears as to which "wife" rushed Otieno Kajwang to the Mater Hospital. Rose resides in a mansion in the leafy suburb of Runda while Faith lives in a house in Langata. How did GOK end up in a hospital roughly in the middle of both his homesteads, a sort of no man's land? The initial press reports of who took him to Mater were really all over the place & downright contradictory... it has been quite a weekend on Jukwaa! In the rule I am sucker for experience, and low mileage reminds me of my own daughters, and would sap the strength out of my resolve! Hmmmmm, old hands who know how to read men and rip their fantasies apart with new innovative experiences are my preferred cup of tea! --But yes podp, a great post! An insight into the moral depravity of our local super rich! the young Kenyan female body as loot, a spoil for the sucessful males to toy with. Nowonder touts are interpreting this abuse in their own depraved moral kick-back! ---Dress code!
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 11, 2017 10:33:26 GMT 3
Tie up your loose ends well before you die! unless you want the living well entertained with the seedy drips of your dead private life! Kanyotu, Koinange, Kirima, Kajwang' .... Saitoti ...
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