ICC: OTP's Pre-Trial Brief Against Uhuru. Revelations!

[OtishOtish]

The Victims' Representative, Fergal Gaynor, made a good argument that this should be made public. Uhuru Defence put up a spirited fight against that and lost. The PTB was made public yesterday, at the ICC website. You can find it there at

www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc1904539.pdf

(See end of this "posting")

Names are given and nasty actions specified: for example, Solicitor General, Njee Muturi (formerly Uhuru's flunky) led on the witness-bribery front. Ferdinand Waititu, MP, also in the thick of things on that front and secretly recorded by OTP.

Other very busy, well-known fellows named include Francis Kimemia. The extent of his involvement is quite something---very much hands-on and in-charge of the death-and-rape squads.

And much, much more. Senior NSIS officials and all sorts of other characters involved.

Uhuru himself is seen waking up from a life of booze and dope and, guided by "elders", having a go at transforming himself into a more sober "Saviour of Our People".

Bribery Sample:

93. In 2009, Prosecution Witness 4 was tracked down by intermediaries purportedly
acting on behalf of the Accused, who bribed him to withdraw his testimony
regarding the PEV. The intermediaries include Njee Muturi, personal assistant
to Mr Kenyatta, and Bildad Kagai, an individual said to have acted as a
Defence intermediary. In exchange for withdrawing his testimony and agreeing
not to co-operate with the ICC, Witness 4 was paid substantial sums of money
and land was purchased for his family. The intermediaries informed Witness 4
that if he refused to withdraw his statements, his family may be harmed. The
intermediaries informed Witness 4 on multiple occasions that the money they
paid to him originated from Mr Kenyatta. The Prosecution relied on Witness
4’s evidence at confirmation, but will not do so at trial, in part because the
bribery campaign has damaged his credibility.

95. Shortly after the Prosecution disclosed the identities of Witnesses 11 and 12 in
August 2012, the witnesses informed the Prosecution that purported Kenyatta
intermediaries were attempting to locate them to offer a “deal” for them to agree
not to testify. One of the intermediaries was Ferdinand Waititu, a sitting Member
of Parliament and an associate of Mr Kenyatta. In a series of controlled telephone
conversations recorded by the Prosecution with the witness’ consent, Mr Waititu
told Witness 12 that he wanted to meet with him to discuss assisting Mr Kenyatta
to “solve this fight” and the “lump of money to be given”. Mr Waititu indicated
that he had spoken about the scheme to Mr Kenyatta and was keeping him
informed of its progress. He explained that Mr Kenyatta wanted to avoid
“direct” involvement because he was worried about getting caught tampering
with evidence. Mr Waititu’s attempts to bribe Witness 12 – the recordings of
which will be presented at trial ...

Attachments:

ICC-Uhuru-PTB.pdf (587.37 KB)

[OtishOtish]

Here is how the Daily Nation puts all of the above:

"She also alleges that there were attempts to bribe prosecution witnesses 4, 11 and 12.
Witness 4, the brief states, was tracked down some time in 2009 by a personal aide of Mr Kenyatta and a defence intermediary."

www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Fatou-Bensouda-Mungiki-men-were-killed-in-PEV-cover-up/-/1064/2596456/-/11j017lz/-/index.html

Very informative reporting!

The article also claims that

"The brief, originally uploaded on the ICC website, was later pulled down."

It is where it has been---at the link provided above.

[mank]

Jan 20, 2015 19:34:30 GMT 3 OtishOtish said:

Bribery Sample:

93. In 2009, Prosecution Witness 4 was tracked down by intermediaries purportedly
acting on behalf of the Accused, who bribed him to withdraw his testimony
regarding the PEV. The intermediaries include .... In exchange for withdrawing his testimony and agreeing
not to co-operate with the ICC, Witness 4 was paid substantial sums of money
and land was purchased for his family. The intermediaries informed Witness 4
that if he refused to withdraw his statements, his family may be harmed. The
intermediaries informed Witness 4 on multiple occasions that the money they
paid to him originated from Mr Kenyatta. The Prosecution relied on Witness
4’s evidence at confirmation, but will not do so at trial, in part because the
bribery campaign has damaged his credibility.

That's just bull, amigo! That's the guy I told you all, well before any allegations of bribery were raised, was a blatant liar and was presenting himself as a witness of what cannot have happened. I don't know what else is bogus in the charge sheet, but this is total bee ees.

Anyone would have been a fool to bribe such a guy. It would actually have helped the defense if Witness # 4 presented "his evidence" because it would have made it all the easier to show that the foundation of the prosecution was fictitious.

[kamalet]

This is such a complete waste of time! If this is what Bensouda hoped to get away with and even if the liars had not admitted to their lies, the allegations are so far fetched that a kangaroo court would even struggle to make a case!

ICC should have borrowed the services of ISIS - just chop off the heads of those they had indicted! Summary justice!

[b6k]

By releasing all of this "evidence" it appears the OTP has given tacit confirmation that there will NEVER be a trial of Uhuru Kenyatta in the future once he's out of office. One has to wonder at the fairness in releasing one side of the story, which hasn't been interrogated in court, & calling that justice. The rule of natural justice in the Common Law system that KE subscribes to allows the accused the right of reply. Even names of deceased people such as George Thuo & Josephine Michuki have been outed...people who cannot defend themselves from the grave.

Since I doubt Uhuru will sue the ICC just like Muthaura & Ali before him decided not to, I wonder if he'd consider assisting the other living "suspects" such as Waititu, Kimemia or Mututho to jointly sue the OTP for libel & damages.

That aside the OTP & the Victims Lawyer should also consider that the law of unintended consequences is always in operation on such passionately disputed issues. It's highly likely that releasing the names of "co-conspirators" will paint them not as pariahs in their respective communities but as heroes who put their treasure & reputations on the line when their people needed them most. The victims living kin on the other hand will confirm once again that the enemy is that community over there. In short, they'll be no justice served, just tribal cocoon mentality reaffirmed & quietly celebrated under the radar...

[jakaswanga]

Jan 21, 2015 9:15:01 GMT 3 kamalet said:

This is such a complete waste of time! If this is what Bensouda hoped to get away with and even if the liars had not admitted to their lies, the allegations are so far fetched that a kangaroo court would even struggle to make a case!

ICC should have borrowed the services of ISIS - just chop off the heads of those they had indicted! Summary justice!

let us say the truth will never come out!
By the way Kamalet, and you may stretch my imagination the way you did with the disappeared Yebei and QC Khan's would be role in the saga, what are the plausible explanations for the spate of murders n disappearances which became the chief lot of some Mungiki big-wigs post PEV?
What say mount Kenya grapevine too, for academic purposes? He he!

[kamalet]

Jan 21, 2015 12:32:15 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Jan 21, 2015 9:15:01 GMT 3 kamalet said:

This is such a complete waste of time! If this is what Bensouda hoped to get away with and even if the liars had not admitted to their lies, the allegations are so far fetched that a kangaroo court would even struggle to make a case!

ICC should have borrowed the services of ISIS - just chop off the heads of those they had indicted! Summary justice!

let us say the truth will never come out!
By the way Kamalet, and you may stretch my imagination the way you did with the disappeared Yebei and QC Khan's would be role in the saga, what are the plausible explanations for the spate of murders n disappearances which became the chief lot of some Mungiki big-wigs post PEV?
What say mount Kenya grapevine too, for academic purposes? He he!

The murders happened before the PEV and those after PEV were ALI doing his job. If even Bensouda concedes that her insider Mungiki witnesses were liars, why would you believe them when they keep telling her that they are being killed? The time between the indictment and the PEV some of these guys were killed for Mungiki reasons rather than PEV as even Uhuru would have never know who the witnesses were. Uhuru in any case denies working with these characters!

[mwalimumkuu]

Jan 21, 2015 12:52:54 GMT 3 kamalet said:

Jan 21, 2015 12:32:15 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

let us say the truth will never come out!
By the way Kamalet, and you may stretch my imagination the way you did with the disappeared Yebei and QC Khan's would be role in the saga, what are the plausible explanations for the spate of murders n disappearances which became the chief lot of some Mungiki big-wigs post PEV?
What say mount Kenya grapevine too, for academic purposes? He he!

The murders happened before the PEV and those after PEV were ALI doing his job. If even Bensouda concedes that her insider Mungiki witnesses were liars, why would you believe them when they keep telling her that they are being killed? The time between the indictment and the PEV some of these guys were killed for Mungiki reasons rather than PEV as even Uhuru would have never know who the witnesses were. Uhuru in any case denies working with these characters!

Absolutely, the kangaroo court kicks its last as it heads further south. Mungiki was a proscribed gang in Kenya long before PEV happened, and as Kamale said, most of these guys had died long before the violence. Those who remained were on the run after realizing that their past deeds were fast catching up with them. When Ocampo came all smiles and ready to 'prochure' so as to make Kenya an example, they came lying and ready to play along. Once in California, Copenhagen and all those other 'nice' places, they said hell no, we do not even know how Muthaura looks like, neither have we ever met Uhuru.

None other than Bensouda herself has admitted to the fact that these guys were liars, more reason she could not proceed with the case to trial. It is therefore in very bad taste for her and the so called court of justice to release this information while knowing very well that it could not stand the test of time in court, it was never tested.




~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~

[jakaswanga]

HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS KENYA: a moral hiatus.

k. The Naivasha attack

69. Together with other members of the common plan, the Accused organised
Mungiki and pro-PNU youth to attack perceived ODM supporters in and around
Naivasha between 27 and 28 January 2008.

i. The Accused’s agents enlist, pay and arm local Mungiki to participate in the Naivasha attack

70. Prior to the Naivasha attack, the Accused’s agents met with local Mungiki
members to persuade them to join the fight on the PNU side.305 In particular,
[REDACTED] and [REDACTED] met with a local Mungiki leader at
[REDACTED]306 in Naivasha prior to the attack to persuade him to mobilise
Mungiki members to participate in the violence.307 [REDACTED] gave the
Mungiki member a large sum of money that he said had been received from Mr
Kenyatta.308 Later, [REDACTED] provided the Mungiki with a large number of
pangas, which were used in the Naivasha attack.309
304 To avoid doubt, the Prosecution intends to offer evidence of looting and destruction of property as acts
underlying the crime of persecution. See ICC-01/09-02/11-445, paras 23-26.
305 [REDACTED].
306 Also referred to as [REDACTED].
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ii. Mungiki and pro-PNU youth are transported to Naivasha for
the attack

71. The Accused and his intermediaries recruited Mungiki and pro-PNU youth from
outside Naivasha to participate in the attack. The intermediaries included
Mr Thuo,
310 Mr Kimemia,
311 David Mwenje,
312 Ms Kihara,
313 and Kuria Kanyingy, a former Kiambu MP.314

The attackers they recruited were transported to Naivasha using various means, including City Hoppa buses and trucks organised by George Thuo,315 using funds obtained from Mr Kenyatta.

316 The out-of-town attackers were transported from multiple locations, including Thika,317 Limuru,318 Nairobi,319 and Nakuru.320 The police did not interfere with the vehicles carrying the attackers.321 The attackers transported to Naivasha were equipped with guns, crude weapons, camouflage uniforms and handcuffs supplied by the Accused’s agents.322 On the way to Naivasha, some Mungiki members deserted.323 Mr Kenyatta engaged a local Mungiki leader named Anthony Mwenje (AKA
“Noriega”) to gather a group of Mungiki to replace those who had left.324 Mr
Kenyatta paid Noriega a large sum of money for this purpose.325
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72. Among the Mungiki transported to Naivasha were members of the “Bagation Squad”.326 The out-of-town attackers also included pro-PNU youth who were recruited for the purpose of the attacks.327 The out-of-town Mungiki and pro-PNU youth groups started arriving in Naivasha in the days before the attack.328 [REDACTED] arrived in Naivasha on or about 26 January 2008 with a group of other Mungiki to get acquainted with the town.329 Lodging and food for out-oftown attackers was organised by Mungiki from Naivasha.330

Other groups of Mungiki and pro-PNU youth arrived in Naivasha on or about 27 January 2008, including [REDACTED], and Noriega.331 Attackers who arrived from outside Naivasha were joined by local Mungiki and pro-PNU youth who had been recruited by Mr Mututho, Ms Kihara, and other community leaders.332 Some attended a meeting held by Ms Kihara at the La Belle Inn shortly before the attack, in which she briefed them about the planned attack.333

iii. Execution of the attack

73. The Naivasha attack began on 27 January 2008.334 The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth attacked in an organised manner, simultaneously from several parts of Naivasha.335 Mungiki and pro-PNU youth from Naivasha mixed with attackers who had arrived from other locations and identified non-Kikuyus and their
property, to ensure that only perceived ODM supporters were targeted in the attack.336
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The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth were divided into groups, led by senior Mungiki members, which in turn were comprised of platoons of approximately ten men.337 The various groups communicated with each another
during the attack using mobile phones.338

74. The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth who participated in the Naivasha attack were paid using funds received from the Accused, his agents, and other wealthy Kikuyus.339 Some of the funds were distributed before the attack.340 During the attack, Maina Diambo brought additional funds to Naivasha, which were distributed to the Mungiki attackers on the ground.341 The attackers were equipped with guns, pangas, handcuffs, metal bars and clubs.342 Most wore civilian clothes during the day, and some had dreadlocks, a hairstyle associated with Mungiki members.343 At night, certain attackers wore the camouflage uniforms that had been received from the Accused’s agents,344 which enabled
them to pass themselves off as police and trick victims into opening doors or
approaching them for help.345

75. The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth targeted non-Kikuyus perceived as ODM supporters.346 The attackers injured and killed their victims with various weapons, including pangas, rungus, metal bars, sticks, and guns,347 and destroyed
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their shops, residences and personal property.348 The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth also incited other local Kikuyus to join the attack.349 The attackers chanted, sang songs and shouted slogans against perceived ODM supporters.350 They chased victims from their homes, destroyed or looted their belongings, and burned their houses, sometimes with the inhabitants inside.351 Guided by locals, the attackers went door-to-door in search of perceived ODM supporters,352 whom they beat, wounded and killed.353 Handcuffs from the Accused’s agents were used to restrain victims.354

76. To identify perceived ODM supporters and prevent them from fleeing, the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth erected barriers and check-points on the roads.355 At the checkpoints, the attackers stopped civilians and identified those perceived to be ODM supporters, based on their identification cards and the languages they spoke; individuals from ethnic groups believed to support the ODM were beaten and killed.356 Thousands of perceived ODM supporters were forced to flee from their homes as a result of the attack.357

77. As in Nakuru, the Kenya police took little or no action to stop the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth from committing crimes in Naivasha, and even tacitly approved the crimes.358 To avoid police interference, Mungiki ground commanders were in constant contact with the overall Mungiki coordinators for the attack, Charles
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355 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0077-0457.
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357 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0028-0102; KEN-OTP-0028-0103.
358 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0026-4751.
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Ndungu Wagacha and Maina Diambo, who were in direct contact with Mr Muthaura.359 Mr Muthaura provided instructions on how to ensure that the attackers were not bothered by the police.360 He also provided the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth attackers with directions to a farm where they could to rest at night without risk of being apprehended by the police.361 Whenever police approached the Mungiki’s areas of operation, the ground commanders called Messrs Wagacha and Diambo, who called Mr Muthaura, and the police stood down.362 The coordination between Mr Muthaura and the Mungiki worked: the police did not intervene to stop the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth from attacking perceived ODM supporters, and the attackers were given a free reign.363

78. The attack lasted until at least 28 January 2008.364 As the Kenyan army moved into Naivasha,365 the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth from outside Naivasha were evacuated in government trucks.366 Mr Muthaura organised the trucks and Mr Diambo coordinated the pick-up of the attackers.367

iv. The crimes committed

1. Murder – Article 7(1)(a) of the Statute (count 1).

79. The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth acting on the Accused’s behalf killed scores of perceived ODM supporters in and around Naivasha during the attack.368 The attackers hacked perceived ODM supporters to death with pangas, rungus, and
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knives and/or shot them with guns.369 Some victims were decapitated, sometimes in front of their children.370 Among the victims was [REDACTED], who was mutilated and killed in the street, having his mmm amputated prior to death.371 In one incident, Mungiki attackers rounded up six to eight perceived ODM supporters, forcibly circumcised at least one, and beat and tortured the others before killing them.

372 Bodies of murdered civilians remained in the street for days and others were thrown into the local quarry.373 In accordance with orders received from the Accused’s agents, the attackers mutilated bodies of gunshot victims to conceal that they had been killed with guns supplied by the government.374 The attackers burned houses that were known to belong to perceived ODM supporters with the residents still inside.375 In one incident, the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth set fire to a dwelling in Kabati Estate, in which 19 victims, [REDACTED], were burned alive.376 In another incident, [REDACTED] and other Mungiki burned at least three women and children alive in a house in Karagita.377 At least 41 perceived ODM supporters were killed during the attack.378
369 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0028-0102, KEN-OTP-0077-0453; KEN-OTP-0033-0119.
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376 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0033-0119; KEN-OTP-0028-0103; KEN-OTP-0028-0055; KEN-OTP-0038-
0864; KEN-OTP-0077-0457; KEN-OTP-0005-9937, at 9937-9938; [REDACTED].
377 [REDACTED].
378 KEN-OTP-0041-0679, at 0679-0681; KEN-OTP-0011-0658, at 0658-0661.
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2. Deportation or forcible transfer – Article 7(1)(d) of the Statute (count
2).
80. Thousands of perceived ODM supporters were expelled from their homes as a result of the attack, many out of fear that they would be killed.379 The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth looted and destroyed homes, businesses and personal property of perceived ODM supporters to coerce them to leave Naivasha.380 IDPs
found temporary refuge at Naivasha police station, Naivasha prison, the showground, and at other makeshift camps, from which they were transported to other parts of Kenya.381 At least 9,000 IDPs were forced to take refuge at the Naivasha police station, most of whom were from ethnic groups perceived as
supporting the ODM.

382 Many displaced civilians never returned to Naivasha.383 The looting, destruction of property, murders, rapes, forcible circumcisions, penile amputations, beatings, torture and severe physical injuries perpetrated by the Mungiki and pro-PNU youth coerced perceived ODM supporters to leave
Naivasha.

3. Rape – Article 7(1)(g) of the Statute (count 3).

81. The Mungiki and pro-PNU youth raped women who were perceived to be ODM supporters.384 Wives and daughters of known ODM supporters were targeted in particular.385 [REDACTED] was gang raped,386 which caused her serious injuries and as a result of which she contracted HIV and died.387 [REDACTED] was also
379 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0028-0102.
380 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0077-0457.
381 [REDACTED].
382 [REDACTED]; KEN-OTP-0064-1019, at 1029; KEN-OTP-0001-0364, at 0494.
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gang raped.388 Many other cases of rape, including the rapes of [REDACTED], occurred in Naivasha during the attack,389 but went unreported or were reported later as a consequence of the under-reporting of rape in Kenya due to stigma and shame,

Haya, lets move on!
COMING FESTIVAL OF VENOM

hearts had turned deaf
having gone to animal depths,
when eyes met in space
Not a human feeling to embrace

Opting not for justice
we sowed the seeds of vengeance.
Like the ostrich we put up a pretence
turned our back on an otherwise good process.

[mwalimumkuu]

Uhuru's defense files a reply to Bensouda, trashes the lies

www.internationallawbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/report.pdf


~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~

[kamalet]

Jan 21, 2015 21:20:14 GMT 3 mwalimumkuu said:

Uhuru's defense files a reply to Bensouda, trashes the lies

www.internationallawbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/report.pdf


~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~

I think we should wait for the former Kenyan's response to the Uhuru defence!

[podp]

Let me give the Kenya government some unsolicited advice. And it comes with no moral pretensions.

As previously shown, the AU has absolutely no power to consign the ICC into the dust heap.

That power is exclusively held by the five veto-wielding permanent members of the UN Security Council. No African state features there.

To get at the ICC, Kenya needs to be creative and look for an unlikely ally — Israel.

www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Africa-Court-ICC-AU-Kenya-Israel/-/440808/2616602/-/sgc9f3/-/index.html

the guilty surely are afraid. who would have thought that after the post election violence and the Mpigs at the time shouting 'do not be vague, let us go to Hague' then the shocker of the Ocampo 6 who have reduced to Bensouda 2 the revisiting of let us have a local tribunal so that we show ICC we are dealing with the perpetrators of PEV, even if not the big fish the machete welders!

The President is free, but Mr Ruto’s case is still pending in court.

Ms Mohamed argued in Addis that the case against the Deputy President poses a serious threat to Kenya’s peace and stability and greatly undermines the gains Kenya has made in reconciling communities that were adversely affected by the post-election violence of late 2007 and early 2008.

After reeling off figures to show how government had used Sh32 billion in resettling internally displaced people, she made Nairobi’s point:

“We believe that Africa is able to find lasting solutions to its problems by operationalising the African Governance Architecture by strengthening its supporting institutions.”

She then encouraged AU to consider signing the Malabo Protocol.

www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Amina-Mohamed-Malabo-Protocol-AU-ICC/-/440808/2616544/-/bhwu9l/-/index.html

one would have expected Uhuruto to show how many Luo and other victims of PEV happily returned to Naivasha and how their population has been growing. additional how many Gema communities are settling in PEV hotspots like Eldoret etc. so that we can surely applaud their efforts at reconciling the communities.

top on all was the Mo1's antics of having not Gema and Kalenjins dominating government positions as it is now but get the turncoats like the late Mulu Mutisya, Kariuki Chotara, Nasir of mpende msipende fame to prove to the non Jubilee supporters how cohesive the country has became under their watch

[mank]

Jan 22, 2015 16:42:55 GMT 3 kamalet said:

Jan 21, 2015 21:20:14 GMT 3 mwalimumkuu said:

Uhuru's defense files a reply to Bensouda, trashes the lies

www.internationallawbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/report.pdf


~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~

I think we should wait for the former Kenyan's response to the Uhuru defence!

Where art thou, amigo Njakip? People are waiting

[OtishOtish]

Feb 9, 2015 4:19:41 GMT 3 mank said:

[quote source="/post/132270/thread" Where art thou, amigo Njakip? People are waiting

Oh! Here I am. And the people are waiting for?

[podp]

crawling from the woodwork are PORK's men and women in the murders of Naivasha

www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Jayne-Kihara-ICC-Suspect-Waki-Envelope/-/1064/2631710/-/gg2fhk/-/index.html

[mank]

Feb 10, 2015 6:20:04 GMT 3 OtishOtish said:

Feb 9, 2015 4:19:41 GMT 3 mank said:

[quote source="/post/132270/thread" Where art thou, amigo Njakip? People are waiting

Oh! Here I am. And the people are waiting for?

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I was in good moods when I posted that, amigo. It was meant for a light moment. But if you insist, I have an answer:

Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations.

By the way, is Ruto/Sang case still going, or did they fold incommunicado?

[mank]

Feb 22, 2015 9:31:11 GMT 3 podp said:

crawling from the woodwork are PORK's men and women in the murders of Naivasha

www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Jayne-Kihara-ICC-Suspect-Waki-Envelope/-/1064/2631710/-/gg2fhk/-/index.html

WHAT MY ROLE WAS ... written with such authority, you think you are about to be materially informed in the topic. So what was her role in anything?

Is this not the woman who was alleged to have purchased loads of guns in 2007? Why not address that issue now?

[OtishOtish]

Feb 22, 2015 11:49:17 GMT 3 mank said:

Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations.

Really? Is that so? Well, then. I better not disappoint my fans (mwalimu etc.) Here we go: Bensouda does indeed have very strong evidence against Uhuru. The withdrawal of the charges---which was done "without prejudice"--is temporary and is solely intended to lure Uhuru and his legal team into relaxing. The case will be resumed when people least expect it.

How's that? Will it do?

[mank]

Feb 22, 2015 18:59:11 GMT 3 OtishOtish said:

Feb 22, 2015 11:49:17 GMT 3 mank said:

Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations.

Really? Is that so? Well, then. I better not disappoint my fans (mwalimu etc.) Here we go: Bensouda does indeed have very strong evidence against Uhuru. The withdrawal of the charges---which was done "without prejudice"--is temporary and is solely intended to lure Uhuru and his legal team into relaxing. The case will be resumed when people least expect it.

How's that? Will it do?

That's so funny.

[Daktari wa makazi]

Feb 22, 2015 18:59:11 GMT 3 OtishOtish said:

Feb 22, 2015 11:49:17 GMT 3 mank said:

Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations.

Really? Is that so? Well, then. I better not disappoint my fans (mwalimu etc.) Here we go: Bensouda does indeed have very strong evidence against Uhuru. The withdrawal of the charges---which was done "without prejudice"--is temporary and is solely intended to lure Uhuru and his legal team into relaxing. The case will be resumed when people least expect it.

How's that? Will it do?

You need to add the following to your assertion - only possible if there is 'new' evidence, so the without prejudice phrase is only applicable to the possibility of bringing a new case should additional evidence becomes available. But, considering the OTP could not gather evidence to proceed with the aborted prosecution, where will they get the new evidence to mount a fresh prosecution? The prosecution of Uhuru Kenyatta is aborted and in my view will not be forthcoming any time now or in the future.

[b6k]

When someone believes in "zombie cases" there's little one can say or do to put him out of his misery. Uhuru's case is as dead as the dodo. Only a zombie can't let it go & move on...

[OtishOtish]

With some people, one takes the piss. On the other hand, the slow ones just give it away.