Extra Judicial Killings what is up?

[job]

(From The Standard)

"I SPEAK FOR THE PRESIDENT" - MUTUA

Confusion over the State’s stand on the UN Rapporteur recommendations on extra-judicial killings heightened yesterday as the Government spokesperson Alfred Mutua said he spoke on behalf of President Mwai Kibaki.

Mutua reaffirmed his earlier statement that the Government had totally rejected Prof Phillip Alston’s statement, saying someone who has been in the country for less than 10 days could not have conducted comprehensive and accurate investigations into such serious matters.

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Raila Odinga seemed to contradict Mutua’s statement when he said the Government would act on the report in totality. Raila further said the Government would not allow excuses such as incompetence in Kenya’s judicial system to justify illegal executions, noting that all suspects must be apprehended and charged in court.

Foreign minister Mosses Wetangula has also dismissed Mutua’s statement saying it was his own personal opinion. (See story Page 4).

Acknowledge Asked why his statement contradicted the PM’s position on action to be taken against Police Commissioner Maj-Gen Hussein Ali and Attorney General Amos Wako, Mutua stated: “I speak on behalf of the President.” He added that it was the President’s prerogative to hire and fire high ranking public officials and dismissed Alston’s statement as “hurried and incomprehensive”.

Mutua said the Government cannot condone someone who has been in the country less than ten days to make such far reaching recommendations.

He said Alston’s statement covered a wide range of issues and “it was mind boggling how someone who has been in the country just for a few days could have gathered the evidence”. “It is inconceivable that Alston being in the country for less than ten days can come up with such findings on such serious issues” said Mutua.

In his statement on Wednesday, Alston recommended the sacking of the Police Commissioner and the Attorney General for overseeing a killer police force and cordoning impunity. Alston who has been on a 10-day fact-finding mission said he had gathered evidence on police death squads, post-election violence and the violence in Mt Elgon.

[phil]

Mutua was specifically headhunted to be Muthaura's, and by extension the Athuri Wazee, project and mouth piece. He now thinks Kibaki presides over this country in a vacuum and that the citizens of Kenya are stupid.

Mutua cannot purport to talk on behalf of the president merely because his office falls under Muthauras. In any case, what is Isaiah Kabira's job then? Why do we have the PPS ?

Thank God, ODM is on record having officially confirmed that Mutua does not speak for ODM.

Mutua is a real disgrace to this country and it is a pity he draws his huge monthly pay from us tax payers although he certainly does not speak for majority of us.

Time and time again, it has been exposed, much to the embarrassment of the appointing authority, that presidential appointees have failed this country. Looking at it more critically, it is presidential appointees and members of his family who have caused Kenya more pain than comfort ever since he took oath of office in December 2002. The president must - to quote Karua - take political responsibiilty for the failure of his appointees.

[job]

VP dismisses UN report on police killings

Updated 5 hr(s) 5 min(s) ago
By Standard Team

Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka has dismissed the UN report on extra-judicial killings.

While dismissing the report by UN Special rapporteur on human rights Prof Philip Alston, Kalonzo said Kenyans have a habit of trusting foreigners too much.

"We seem to have greater faith in foreigners than we have in our own people," said the VP.

Speaking to the Press after launching "Life Skills Campaign", hosted by Scripture Union of Kenya at Kenyatta International Conference Centre, Kalonzo said foreigners who criticise local institutions bring back memories of colonisation.

And Lands Minister James Orengo wants the Government to give priority to reforms in the Judiciary and police force while implementing UN investigator Alston’s report.

Orengo criticised Government Spokesperson Alfred Mutua for dismissing Alston’s findings on judicial killings.

He said Mutua had no mandate to speak for the Government on the report and his views should be ignored. He said Justice Minister Martha Karua’s stand on the report was the Government’s view. Independent Medico Legal Unit (Imlu) said the Government’s rejection of the report is ill advised.

"Instead of the Government trashing the report, it should enforce the recommendations. We cannot all be wrong in our findings that police have been engaging in extra-judicial killings," said Samuel Mohochi of Imlu. He said the Government should dismiss police officers accused of systematic executions.

And the Parliamentary Select Committee probing extra-judicial killings says police cannot run away from the report by Alston. The chairman of the committee and Ndaragwa MP Jeremiah Kioni says it is the duty of the police to explain to Kenyans the whereabouts of hundreds of youths who have disappeared mysteriously.

Kioni said Kenyans have lost con-fidence in Ali and he should resign. He said they had come across disturbing disturbing issues, which would be made public in line with the Parliamentary Standing Orders.

[politicalmaniac]

Which foriegners are these that Kenyans trust? arturs? Gadaffi jnr?
judas KM palin, after wiping kegs de othaya dirty crack should go take a shower.

[adongo23456]

PM

That was funny, but it looks like killing Kenyans according to the Nation and their researchers is great for the country. Go figure. Talk about the disposables.

www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/540490/-/u31itv/-/index.html

[mzee]

Mar 2, 2009 15:20:24 GMT 3 adongo23456 said:

PM

That was funny, but it looks like killing Kenyans according to the Nation and their researchers is great for the country. Go figure. Talk about the disposables.

www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/540490/-/u31itv/-/index.html

Adongo,
I dont understand how the evaluation was done but it does not look scientific at all. It sounds and smells like the Steadman polls. Never accurate but pure guess work.

[kingtut]

Phil,

Of course Mutua speaks for the president, Kibaki probably writes Mutua's statements word for word.

[njamba]

NBO 8:35 PM

Breaking news on K24

he was on capital talk (jeff Koinange interview show) just last night

He was shot and killed in the streets of NBI less than 2 hrs ago

Its probably the police that did it

Osca foundation was linked to mungiki and todays mungiki strike

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Ali job or Saitoti

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Re: Kamau Kingara - OSCA foundation founder shot deadVery sad that people like him are being felled with bullets while thieves in govt continue to loot. Am sure the police said he was a gangster or mungiki.
Something is very wrong with this govt.

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NBO 8:35 PM

Breaking news on K24

he was on capital talk (jeff Koinange interview show) just last night

He was shot and killed in the streets of NBI less than 2 hrs ago

Its probably the police that did it

Osca foundation was linked to mungiki and todays mungiki strike

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Frequent Re: Kamau Kingara - OSCA foundation founder shot deadBY BERNARD MOMANYI

NAIROBI, Kenya, Jan 11 - A local non-governmental organisation has written to the International Criminal Court (ICC), inviting it to investigate alleged executions and disappearances of over 8000 suspected Mungiki sect members.

Oscar Foundation, a free legal aid clinic with networks in Kenya said it had documented numerous cases of mysterious deaths and disappearances on the banned sect members blamed on the police.

“We want the ICC to take up this matter and expeditiously investigate these atrocities,�� the foundation’s Executive Director Kamau King’ara said.

In a the letter to the ICC dated January 1, 2009, Mr King’ara states that many of the youths were arrested, detained and tortured while in police custody before they were killed.

“Their bodies were found dumped in mortuaries or abandoned in forests in the outskirts of Nairobi,�� he said.

“We therefore, ask the ICC to send international investigators to come and carry out independent investigations,�� part of the letter in our possession states. It is addressed to the ICC Chief Prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo.

Many of the youths were killed since 2002 when the sect was declared an illegal grouping.

Tired of its massacre killings across the country, mainly in Central Kenya and Nairobi, the government launched an offensive operation in 2007 when the largest number of the sect members were arrested and others killed.

Police have blamed the Mungiki for dozens of killings, with several of the victims having been beheaded.

�� The cycle of police brutality continues to be perpetuated with impunity and remains the most serious and divisive human rights violations in Kenya,’ the letter states.

“Excessive use of force by the law enforcement officers, including torture, extra-judicial executions, arbitrary arrests and intimidation, is rife in virtually all police stations in Kenya,�� it adds.

Mr King’ara particularly takes issue with the conduct of the police force in failing to expeditiously investigate the killings, which Police commissioner Major General Mohammed Hussein Ali repeatedly denies.

“Police officers implicated in human rights violations should face due process of the law and be held accountable for their deeds,�� Mr King’ara said and added that the “trend was rapidly precipitating a state of moral negligence and ineptness in the entire police force.��

Oscar Foundation said it wrote the letter on behalf of mothers, widows , friends and relatives of the slain victims of extra-judicial execution and enforced disappearances.

Mr King’ara said he had also forwarded evidence gathered by the foundation in the course of its investigations.

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Re: Kamau Kingara - OSCA foundation founder shot deadProbe Mungiki killings, ICC told
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NAIROBI, Kenya, Jan 11 - A local non-governmental organisation has written to the International Criminal Court (ICC), inviting it to investigate alleged executions and disappearances of over 8000 suspected Mungiki sect members.

Oscar Foundation, a free legal aid clinic with networks in Kenya said it had documented numerous cases of mysterious deaths and disappearances on the banned sect members blamed on the police.

“We want the ICC to take up this matter and expeditiously investigate these atrocities,� the foundation’s Executive Director Kamau King’ara said.

In a the letter to the ICC dated January 1, 2009, Mr King’ara states that many of the youths were arrested, detained and tortured while in police custody before they were killed.

“Their bodies were found dumped in mortuaries or abandoned in forests in the outskirts of Nairobi,� he said.

“We therefore, ask the ICC to send international investigators to come and carry out independent investigations,� part of the letter in our possession states. It is addressed to the ICC Chief Prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo.

Many of the youths were killed since 2002 when the sect was declared an illegal grouping.

Tired of its massacre killings across the country, mainly in Central Kenya and Nairobi, the government launched an offensive operation in 2007 when the largest number of the sect members were arrested and others killed.

Police have blamed the Mungiki for dozens of killings, with several of the victims having been beheaded.

� The cycle of police brutality continues to be perpetuated with impunity and remains the most serious and divisive human rights violations in Kenya,’ the letter states.

“Excessive use of force by the law enforcement officers, including torture, extra-judicial executions, arbitrary arrests and intimidation, is rife in virtually all police stations in Kenya,� it adds.

Mr King’ara particularly takes issue with the conduct of the police force in failing to expeditiously investigate the killings, which Police commissioner Major General Mohammed Hussein Ali repeatedly denies.

“Police officers implicated in human rights violations should face due process of the law and be held accountable for their deeds,� Mr King’ara said and added that the “trend was rapidly precipitating a state of moral negligence and ineptness in the entire police force.�

Oscar Foundation said it wrote the letter on behalf of mothers, widows , friends and relatives of the slain victims of extra-judicial execution and enforced disappearances.

Mr King’ara said he had also forwarded evidence gathered by the foundation in the course of its investigations.

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There goes Killing of Kamau Kingara by GOK sad sad sad day

[adongo23456]

I just saw a NTV clip with Alfred Mutua telling the media that the Osca Foundation was a Mungiki Front formed to promote the interests of Mungiki. I think the Mutua interview was a few days ago. The brazen nature of the killing of citizens by the Kenyan police is a very bad sign. These guys don't give a shit. You can complain all you want but they will go on killing anybody they want.

And then they have the war between Mungiki and local communities. I saw that Kiraithe message to citizens not to lynch the mungiki folks to death but instead hand them over to the police. Kiraithe is saying don't botther killing them, bring them over and we will kill them for you. What a country!

If Kenyans can't stand up against extra-judicial killings, they shouldn't complain when someone in their families are cut up.

I can see a big mungiki/police war looming. These government fools are overstepping the boundaries.

[njamba]

AO and others,
Unfortunately Like Mellitus Were, and Kimani Ruo Kamau's story will soon be forgotten

THIS is TErrorist Govt we have

[job]

Fellows,

I actually posted on the other thread......i'll copy and paste it.....this is disgusting and tragic.

Something is not right in our nation today. I can smell it. We are being led along a path of social destruction where disenchanted youth are being silenced by the bullet.

It's getting a bit tough to countenance the reality that the GCG is just tagging along a path dictated by a few belligerent, rogue and ferocious characters hiding behind state power.

State hardware and extrajudicial assassinations will not guarantee peace or social order in KENYA. Bullets cannot silence hunger and poverty.

The PNU council of wazees ruling Kenya, including Michuki, Karume and Saitoti should know that YOU CANNOT KILL OR EXTERMINATE ALL UNEMPLOYED, POOR YOUTH/MUNGIKI or whatever you want to call them.

THESE LOOTERS HANGING ONTO POWER WILL NOT SLEEP PEACEFULLY IN THEIR MANSIONS when all that surrounds them is youth unemployment and rampant poverty.

THE WAZEES GRABBED THEIR LAND, ROBBED TREASURY OF RESOURCES THAT COULD HAVE PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM, MISUSED THEM IN POLITICS AND VIOLENT ASSIGNMENTS,.... THESE ROGUE WAZEES WILL NOT RUN AWAY FROM THE POVERTY, NEITHER CAN THEY KILL ALL POOR YOUNG KENYANS, PERIOD!!!!

START DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM - you greedy, selfish bastards!!!!!!!!!


YESTERDAY : Government Spokesman ALFRED MUTUA declared the NGO - OSCAR FOUNDATION a 'front for Mungiki'.

TODAY : POLICE GUNNED DOWN OSCAR FOUNDATION founder, CEO and human rights advocate, OSCAR KINGARA, alongside his employee OULU GPO (JaKisumo) at Mamlaka Road - right near Hall 10 - UON.

THAT WAS QUICK AND FEROCIOUS.

BRAZEN ASSASSINATION, IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, ~ 6 PM, WITH THE CLOSE EYE WITNESS ALSO BEING SHOT AND HIJACKED BY THE MINIBUS (& CAR) CARRYING THE POLICE ASSASSINS.

WE all know the government is still seething in anger over Prof. Alson's UN report on extrajudicial killings that have been rampant in Kenya.

We all know the government has accused the KNCHR and OSCAR FOUNDATION of having provided Prof. Alston with 'misleading' evidence.

We know all previous and current human rights abusers starting with DANIEL ARAP MOI, to Maj. Gen Ali, to Brig Gichangi, to Gen. Kianga, to the CID boss, AP commandant, GSU commandant, and civilian cops, have panicked over the report, dismissing it with bluff.

Well, the jarring reality is that POOR YOUTHS IN KENYA will not be the sitting ducks, waiting to be slaughtered by police in the name of STAMPING OUT DISSENT.

KENYANS will soon find out the truth whether it is IN FACT MUNGIKI that's really behind the choreographed MATATU boycotts and current RESURGENCE of social ruffling.......me thinks the POLICE are JUSTIFYING the need to SLAUGHTER and SILENCE millions of RESTLESS UNEMPLOYED YOUTH.

THE HUMAN RIGHTS FRATERNITY NEEDS TO COME OUT STRONGLY AFTER THE ASSASSINATION OF THE COP WHO CONFESSED TO EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS, AND NOW AFTER ASSASSINATION OF KINGARA & OULU BY THESE BLOODY-THIRSTY & INHUMAN COPS.

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job

I am stunned. I mean nothing should shock us in the politics of totalitarianism and state thuggery in Kenya but this shook me up a little.

First we had Alfred Mutua, who speaks for the president in a press conference practically issuing threats to Mr. Kingara. Mutua never mentioned the name Kingara but he made it very clear that the Oscar Foundation is a Mungiki outfit. Mutua was furious that it was the Oscar Foundation and other such organizations that were working with "foreigners" to make the government look bad. With all these threats I don't know where else that leaves its founder Mr. Kingara, but let's look at the evidence. Brutal as it is.

A few minutes after Mutua makes this outright threats to people associated with the Oscar Foundation. The Leader of the Foundation Mr. Oscar Kingara and his workmate Mr. Oulu were assassinated in one of the most brazen of such events in the history of the nation, which is rich with brazen assassinations. Unresolved of course.

Now we hear even witnesses to this gruesome murder were grabbed by the killers. They are probably dead by now.

The issue here from Mutua's attack on the foundation and the quick follow up with the assassination of its leaders to me are as follows.

(1) Did Mutua know that the Oscar leaders were targets of government assassinations?

(2) Was Mutua led to believe that by the time he will be making his speech the Oscar Foundation leaders would already be dead and that his statement was meant to tell Kenyans not to worry about those guys because they are mungiki?

(3) Did Mutua's statement act as a green light for the assassins to go ahead and make the hit, after all this was approval from the highest office?

Then we have broader issues

(4) Just how terrified is the government about these revelations of police executions of hundreds of Kenyan youth? What else doesn't the country know?

(5) Where else is this spate of executions going to extend? Are there going to be hits on KNCHR officials, after all they have also been accused of being Mungiki agents/supporters etc?

www.eastandard.net/commentaries/InsidePage.php?id=1144008001&cid=15&

In the bigger picture as job has so well captured, we do have a state that is quite plainly becoming a terrorist state.

From the police shootings and killings during the referendum campaigns in 2005, to the pre-election killings in 2007, and then of course the mother of all state acts of terrorism in Kenya that we saw as and after Kibaki just stole the elections and told Kenyans "f.u, I am your president by force"

And we know this Mungiki executions have gone on for a long time. It is now official policy and Prof. Alston busted the bubble with his bold statements. Then all the chicken poohs of the Kibaki machinery were sent out there to denounce the shocking statements from Prof. Alston. They sent the likes of Amos Wako to piss on the report (of course he had to), they sent Kalonzo to add his pee to the report, they sent Army Chief Gichangi to denounce the report and of course finally they unleashed the ever "brilliant" Alfred, to speak for the president and we all know what he said and what followed. Not very good is it?

The dumb "talking point" given to all these defenders of state murder and treachery against citizens that the Alston report revealed was that Prof. Alston only had ten days to find out that the Kenyan state was killing is citizens unlawfully. This is silly. Okay then why doesn't the government give him more time? This guy is reporting about a chain of state lawlessness and killings that has happened over the last 2 years.

Kenyans know some of these killings over the years may be of gang members, some may be of innocent youth who suited the profile of whoever was better dead according to the whims of the time, some are outright political targets etc, whatever they are; all of these are illegal acts of murder.

So if Prof. Alston figured this out in ten days, what has the Kenyan government done about any of each in those two years? Try zero for an answer? What has Wako done? What has Ali done? What has Kalonzo done, What has Saitoti done? Check the answer above. And yet these are the people pontificating on how Kenyans should not rely on "foreigners" to solve the problems in the country. The stark reality is that it is exactly those guilty of abuse of power in Kenya, those who sanction these killings, routinely, and their agents who have are condemning the Alston report. The guilty are afraid of course. Kenyans knew that coming.

The scary thing for me is that it seems the government is saying "we will kill who we want to kill and when we want to kill them and everybody else should shut up" I mean they are even killing cops who are exposing the criminal activities going on in our police force.

Isn't it funny Amos Wako launched a "Witness Protection Unit" amid laughter and pretense that the nation actually doesn't have a collapsed judiciary system. The rule of law in Kenya is dead and that is thanks to the likes of Wako, Gicheru and their bosses. But then I thought, when is Wako going to launch a "Suspects and Innocent Kenyans Protection Unit". Under the circumstances many Kenyans would agree this is more urgent.

We have two big problems. One is that there is a building war between the youth of Kenya and the state (which has very little legitimacy to begin with). It is a war I can say under the circumstances, the state cannot win.

This is mot just about alleged mungiki youth or scary NGO types. This is about the Turkana young lads who see no hope, it is about the army of millions in the Kenyan youth in cities and towns who are giving up on the state. This is not about the disgusting Mutuas. This is a different kettle of fish. It is boiling good alright but nobody knows knows what it is going to taste like when it is all over.

My fear is that the aggressive moves from the State House forces in this war could very well have crossed the line. If that is so, we have a huge problem in our hands. The most terrifying thing for me is that these people (State House operatives) use Mungiki to kill people as happened in Naivasha in the PEV and then when they don't need them they simply stump them out like bothersome insects.

The second thing is that the State House killers have decided to use the Mungiki brand name and its very violent history to now label all those they want to eliminate as Mungiki. Human rights activists are the main target here.

The Kibaki frauds at State House seem horrified by the power and the influence of human rights and civil society groups. This very important section of the Kenyan "political class" were scandalized after the Narc debacle, but they are back in full force. They are smart, they are determined, they are fearless, they welcome difficulties of battle and they just keep coming back and above all else they are patriots. That is deadly for a shaky team of confused autocrats running the country as we speak. These State House thugs and killers are ina lot more trouble than they think.

Last but not least, let me ask why our so called emerging faith groups for justice fall dead silent in matters like what we are witnessing today. Which church leader of any repute has dared condemn extra-judicial killings as criminal and acts of state murder? Which religious leader has dared support the very urgent calls from Prof. Alston from UN who called for the resignation of senior state officials entangled in human rights abuses in Kenya?

Quite frankly which religious group(s) actually has the courage to stand with Kenyans in times of dire need and abuse from the state.

What is Cardinal Njue's position on extra-judicial killings in Kenya?

Why the deafening silence from the faith groups as the nation burns with gun fire from state agents? The answer is very simple, they all know which side of their loaf is battered. You know how these guys love loaves.

In conclusion I would say I am a little scared for the country. Something has to be done that is very bold to redirect this ship called Kenya before it sinks. I am going to take some time thinking about that.

These are dangerous times.

adongo

[adongo23456]

It gets worse. This is after all the talking heads were furious with Prof. Alston's findings that the state was killing Kenyans indiscriminately.

www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/542428/-/u32wb9/-/index.html

How cynical for Kiraithe to now order the arrest of three police officers who killed the third victim of police killings in the Nairobi University compounds. Why didn't Kiraithe order the arrest of the other police officers who assassinated Kingara and Oulu?

Do Kenyans really need foreigners to see what is happening in the country today. I feel terrible for the campus crew. I am familiar with that area of State House road opposite Hall 10. It right in the middle of the two campus residence wings. The road from State House goes directly to Hall 10 and Hall 11 just opposite. The other side of State House is the other halls 6,7,8,9 etc. So all these brutal killings took place right within the campus compounds. Let's hope nobody else gets shot at the campus.

Kiraithe and co are trying to pull a quick one. Kill one more student, order the arrest of the new killers, pretend that the other killers of Kingara and Oulu are "unknown gunmen", use the media to peddle this and then look like the police are actually dealing with "errant" officers. Rubbish. Kenyans will not be fooled.

adongo

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[mzee]

The way the police who are supposed to be well trained in matters of forensics are just walking on the crime scene leaves a lot to be desired. The crime scene is not secured at all and its apparent to me that this is a delibarate act to destroy any evidence.
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Moi`s government used to kill people but it was never so openly. Im suprised at the boldness by which crime is being committed by the MKM thugs yet some pseudo scientific evaluation shows the security docket to be the best performer.