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Post by Titchaz on Dec 11, 2011 23:39:59 GMT 3
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Post by akinyi2005 on Dec 12, 2011 1:50:23 GMT 3
wow a picture is indeed worth a thousand words - that floor on the last picture looks like the surface of the moon yaani we know nothing like maintainance.
on a serious note i wish our doctors well and hope that a compromise is reached to avoid subjecting patients to more suffering.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 7:32:44 GMT 3
wow a picture is indeed worth a thousand words - that floor on the last picture looks like the surface of the moon yaani we know nothing like maintainance. on a serious note i wish our doctors well and hope that a compromise is reached to avoid subjecting patients to more suffering. akinyidamn. they can't even paint the floor just to pretend. One of my sisters who worked as a pharmacist at Kenyatta hospital in the '80s once quipped; "they won't even give bleach to disinfect the facility" She was headed to private practice.
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Post by merlin on Dec 12, 2011 10:10:02 GMT 3
@ Jakaswanga The strike is all about patients rights, how long must we continue to accept mediocre services? counterfeit drugs? inadequate or absent facilities and supplies? Talks with the ministry collapsed not because the ministry could not guarantee original drugs and fresh linen...it was because of a disagreement on MONEY. But the labour unions in Kenya need to learn from the coal miner's strike in the UK during Thatcher's time. It was perhaps the longest drawn out strike in UK history that ended in the collapse of the coal industry in the UK. Kamale,It is difficult to compare the Doctors strike with the coalminers strike in the UK. North Sea oil and gas was discovered and the coal industry had to be reorganised and partly phased out. Dear Margaret Thatcher did a cold pit closure and privatisation programme of the coal industry and lodged a heavy blow to the labour organisation of Arthur Scargill. There is no need to phase-out the health organisation of Kenya, on the contrarily it has to grow and improved. The doctors are ever so right in their struggle for a better health services in Kenya and maybe it is the right time to consider a restructuring of the health services. The two pronged private and state health services is widening the already large gap between the poor and the rich leading to a professional health services for the well to do and a marginalised almost nonexistent and deteriorating service for the poor. The government should set-up a study group to come-up with a plan how to improve health services and in the mean time apply emergency repairs to the existing services.
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Post by kamalet on Dec 12, 2011 10:27:33 GMT 3
@ Kamalet Did You read the 13 point KMPDU PETITION TO THE GOVT i posted above? remuneration is point number 10!... The govt has chosen to talk about this to the public and media as propaganda and to make us look ungrateful and uncaring! Anyang Nyong today is blatantly lying through his teeth about the petitions by doctors...calling us interns when even the most senior consultants in the country are participating in the strike. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000048131&cid=637He is safe in UCSF carlifornia doing a check up on his PSA and getting androgen deprivation therapy (chemical castration in layman terms). What about the ordinary Kenyans who cannot fly out? have to share beds in threes with two more sleeping under? Have you been to KNH?? MTRH?? any district Hospital in Kenya? Robert Green's 48 laws of power must be the script serikal is reading from "When faced with a difficult demand,Negotiate your way out of everything,negotiate by buying time and wearing out your opponent, If you have a younger and youthful opponent.. Time will wear him out, he will lessen his demands and accept whatever is thrown at him and he will be easy to distract." They are in for a shock!! WE WILL NOT WAIVER & WE WILL NOT FALTER. At the end of the day it is the same Kenyans who say we are selfish who will enjoy quality health services when we succeed, therefore the Hippocratic oath commands me to take strike action so that i cannot perpetuate or be part of a substandard and dangerous healthcare system needlessly killing Kenyans which by some strange twist could end up killing me (YES- I have delivered babies from HIV + women using plastic bags because there were no gloves in the hospital). I will not be Good and do nothing and maintain STATUS QUO.........Remember Evil triumphs when Good men do nothing Hannali When you keep hiding behind moral issues for public sympathy whilst all the argument is about money, that is what I criticise. You specifically refer me to Point 13 in your petition asking me to ignore the propaganda that your argument was about Point No. 9. 13. Underfunding of healthcare by treasury. While not absolving individuals who have demonstrated great ineptitude at the two ministries of health, a lot of the shortages in the health sector can be justifiably blamed on underfunding by treasury. The two ministries of health must play their part in pressuring the treasury into meeting basic health funding levels as laid out in the 2001 Abuja declaration and as recommended by WHO. The passive approach hitherto adopted has cost lives and its continuation portends disaster for many families who are stuck with public healthcare.Treasury can only provide funds that it has and you and I know that for a long time health and education were the main receipients of budgetary funds - but these have never been enough! If this is a reason to be on strike, then you have little hope of resolving this! The most youw ill get is a promise! And that is why I have said your strike is about money, and you need to focus on this. You guys are grossly under remunerated. Your working conditions are deplorable. So you will have some of you working 100 hours in a week - fine. But your argument should be that sufficient remuneration for extra working hours be provided. When teachers had a labour issue recently they handled it very well like labour professionals and at the end forced the government to translate the terms of contractors to permament and pensionable employees. They took a specific bargaining issue to the table, focused on it and got rewarded for it! When the go on a salary issue, they use sensible matrices to support their claims and not just " doctor should be paid 280,000 shillings". You need to create a basis for that figure. I listened to the finance minister say what the government put on the table and the proposal on the next budget to increase the amount available to you guys. Then on the same account the union representative is all over not respponding to the specific issues of money. You actually seem to know that you are negotiating from a point of weakness when you quote Robert Greene in his 48 laws of Power! Just how do you hope to win this argument when you already know what your opponent will do? But every cloud has a silver lining. Cotu strongman Atwoli has stepped in, and for a man that once described to have a lot of air between his ears, he may just save the day for you guys.....and that is getting the money issue resolved!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 12, 2011 11:40:35 GMT 3
A view from, Odhiambo T. Okech-someone OPPOSING the doctors' strike:
Doctors should shape up or ship out; no more kids gloves
Message #143684 of 143700
I am spreading no propaganda. Am stating facts; walk into any Hospital and you will find that the Government Doctor who earns a salary to attend to Kenyans in that Public Health Institution, is away moon lighting at some Private Hospital and/or at some Private Clinic.
Again, it is public knowledge that some Doctors pilfer Government Issues to their Private Practice.
Those are facts, not propaganda, and I have witnessed this plight first hand.
Ogwel, I love debates where we address issues without claim to any moral high grounds. We are very knowledgeable in our various trainings and callings, hence, do not dismiss my case as you have tried to do.
If we had access to any public debate, I would have wanted to sit in a panel with you and debate our various points of conviction.
I am very clear on what I am saying; the People of Kenya cannot afford these frequent ill advised strikes from every Tom, Dick and Harry. We have formed a Salaries and Remunerations Commission that must rise to the occasion and address the question of salaries and allowances in the Public Service.
We cannot build a stable and progressing economy by allowing strikes to dictate what each Public Servant earns. That is a very simple reasoning that should be understood very clearly.
The Salaries and Remunerations Commission will address salaries and allowances in respect to professional callings and standards and that will include determining what Members of Parliament ought to take home.
This is what Progressive Kenyans should support. Not Strikes.
Can we build a country based on the whims of strikers?
If that thinking is being pedestrian, I will happily be one, for the books that I have read will never smash my balls in my sleep.
Oto
--- On Sun, 12/11/11, A.E.O OGWELL <ogwell_aeo@...> wrote:
From: A.E.O OGWELL <ogwell_aeo@...> Subject: Re: [PK] Doctors should shape up or ship out; no more kids gloves To: "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com> Date: Sunday, December 11, 2011, 1:27 AM
Sometimes it is so disappointing to read from folks here who clearly dont see or hear the issues that the doctor are raising. Selectively focussing on the small issues like politicians do. Maybe they are just politicians - like Oto.
Actually doctors have been shipping out in droves. Kenyan health workers (not just doctors) are running the health systems in Southern Africa. We have less doctors in public service today when compared to1994 (the last time doctors went on strike). The basic problem is not even pay, its the working environment. Who recalls the Moddy-homecoming plane crash? All those MPs had AAR Gold cards in their pockets and handbags yet none could could get basic treatment at the district hospital in Busia because there was nothing to use. No gloves, no medicines, no gauze (hiyo ni kama pamba), wrong sized needles and underpaid staff!
The number of doctors moonlighting is small but present! A failure of supervision by Afya House. The public health system in this country is run by very young doctors - interns, recently-graduated coleagues and registrars (doctors doing their masters degrees), with basic input from senior colleagues. Its those young docors who are out there, fed up with watching Kenyans suffer and die for lack of basic things as Commsioners and MPs earn millions in monthly salaries.
Oto doctors will continue shiping out into the private sector and abroad. Specifically because they wish to work in an environment where they are respected and compensated for their professional preparations and toil. They will ship out and Kenyans will bear the "costs" of fewer medics.
What these young doctors have done is to be patriotic enough to say "enough" with the knowledge that things can and should improve for KEnyans who pay taxes for services, not paying MPs immoral amounts in salaries and chairs!
As a doctor in Kenya I say everything they say is correct and without those being addressed even if they returned to work today, healthcare would not be better. The middle class will still attend harambees for the ill and dead and pay for what their taxes were not allowed to do! Or we can push for the government to do the right thing for healthcare in this country.
Nyongo and Mugo abdicated their duties at a crucial time, am told to go consult foreign doctors huko nje. Pathetic I say!
Patriotic Kenyans dont ship out, they stay and rectify. Others with time and "security" in some run-off-the-mill health insurance, blog here about it and apportion blame with little useful information!
KMPDU has started a process that is useful to this country.
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Post by hannali on Dec 12, 2011 14:42:25 GMT 3
@ Kamalet Why does Anyang Nyongó and Beth Mugo go abroad for medical treatment? Its because they dont trust the services that the ministries they head offer.....And worse....They are not doing anything to ameliorate the situation. This is 48 YEARS after independence, we are still offering mediocre medical services...worse than twenty years ago. We will not allow MEDIOCRITY to prevail. Therefore, The Doctors of this country will stand up for their rights and the rights of Kenyans who cannot afford to go abroad to SA,Europe or US The leadership of the country displays a nonchalant attitude about the health of its people and must be forced to address this plight... Maybe it will take a white western tourist to die in a government hospital because there were no doctors or medicine for the govt to spring into action and do its duty www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/1287744/highRes/316136/-/maxw/600/-/wp7fst/-/cart12.jpg
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Post by hannali on Dec 12, 2011 17:43:00 GMT 3
Guys Remember when Mrs Lucy Kibaki visited visited Nyeri Provincial General Hospital and became hysterical about the lack of facilities? while visiting the Nyeri Hospital was shocked to find women sleeping on the concrete floor of the hospital. She also found out that the hospital has no basic things like painkillers and that the Intensive Care Unit was non-existent. The First Lady was stunned and asked the matron if she ever saw people sleeping on floors anywhere, even in their own homes. allafrica.com/stories/200411300336.htmlNow thats for Nyeri PGH, Imagine the horror she might see on visiting District hospitals and local health centres....She could het a myocardial Infarction... This goes along way to show that the leadership is completely out of touch with the realities of everyday Kenyans. As I heard Kibaki today saying Kenya has made great strides in development of the health sector
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Dec 12, 2011 19:14:09 GMT 3
Hannali,
The doctors' strike has ceased being about anything else but money, you listen to the union's argument that the government is simply repackaging the same offer and presenting it through different ministers and you come to the conclusion that we are no longer talking about lack of gloves or unpainted floors in PGHs or District Nyayo Hospitals; which is ok. I have been an advocate of good pay for everyone in every profession, from teachers, lecturers to doctors and everyone else.
I was for instance shocked to learn that a whole doctor in Kenya takes home only 40k. That is what a primary school teacher takes home at present. It is therefore very unfair to the doctors given their training and what they do. However, the way we are going about it is terrible. The doctors should not have allowed innocent Kenyans to suffer and die due to lack of care because doctors are on strike. I am yet to understand where the minister in charge disappeared to. If he is too sick to work, he should be told to step aside.
Bur back on the issue, as Kamale suggests, doctors should have come up with a mechanism of exerting pressure on the government but at the same time attending to the sick, those who need them most. Doctors need to know that once life is lost, it cannot be recovered. So as we single out the country's leadership for barbs, we should also ask the doctors to rethink their action and demonstrate that they understand what the sick Kenyans are going through.
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Post by tnk on Dec 12, 2011 19:55:19 GMT 3
Doctors need to know that once life is lost, it cannot be recovered. ....ask the doctors to rethink their action and demonstrate that they understand what the sick Kenyans are going through. are you serious?
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Post by abdulmote on Dec 12, 2011 21:33:33 GMT 3
Much as I sympathise with the doctors' strike, I am of the opinion that it hsould not have been set to go indefinitely and that is until the negotiators reach an agreement. A point has been made, well done.
Considering the consequential cost, which is bound to escalate on every day of the strike, it would have been reasonable to allocate periodic and even perhaps intermitent 'strike days', that is until an agreement is reached. An indefinite strike by the doctors feels rather harsh, unreasonable and unnecessarily prolonged on the innocently sick and the dying.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 12, 2011 21:44:06 GMT 3
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Post by hannali on Dec 12, 2011 22:33:35 GMT 3
Doctors and poor kenyans relying on the public health system have been raped without a condom...
The KMPDU leadership has been bought and is a sham,disgrace and vomited in the face of Kenyan doctors,medical practitioners and the average Kenyans depending on public healthcare facilities. The leadership has conned,cheated us and the average & sick Kenyans and is responsible for those who have died as a result of this strike as they have been bought cheaply with their blood....
We however have a plan B,C,D........
Aluta Continua....Mapambano Continua.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Dec 12, 2011 22:47:54 GMT 3
Doctors and poor kenyans relying on the public health system have been raped without a condom... The KMPDU leadership has been bought and is a sham,disgrace and vomited in the face of Kenyan doctors,medical practitioners and the average Kenyans depending on public healthcare facilities. The leadership has conned,cheated us and the average & sick Kenyans and is responsible for those who have died as a result of this strike as they have been bought cheaply with their blood.... We however have a plan B,C,D........ Aluta Continua....Mapambano Continua. Meanwhile soma hapa: www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why+striking+doctors+have+lost+the+plot+/-/440808/1288350/-/ugr5eaz/-/index.htmlI listened to the clip TNK had posted here earlier ( ), and I think, the doctors did the right thing. After boxing themselves in a corner, there was no way out. Let us give the yet to be formed task force a chance and see what they come up with and what the government will do after that. Remember even lecturers are going through the same at the moment.
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Post by tnk on Dec 12, 2011 23:04:35 GMT 3
Much as I sympathise with the doctors' strike, I am of the opinion that it hsould not have been set to go indefinitely and that is until the negotiators reach an agreement. A point has been made, well done. Considering the consequential cost, which is bound to escalate on every day of the strike, it would have been reasonable to allocate periodic and even perhaps intermitent 'strike days', that is until an agreement is reached. An indefinite strike by the doctors feels rather harsh, unreasonable and unnecessarily prolonged on the innocently sick and the dying. i somewhat agree with this viewpoint. right at the beginning i did say that a strike by doctors may have some initial value and impact in the short term but was unsustainable in the long run for a variety of reasons. the one huge reason being the negative impact due to lives at risk or lost as a result. needless to note that this impact is irreversible. unfortunately the KMPDU has ceded negotiations to COTU and transformed this to a simple trade/labour dispute. this is a bad call and will in the end hurt KMPDU or at least their concerns as listed in the 13 point issues. For starters they have been reduced to 4 (if what i read from the press is true) looking at the back to work formula agreed upon, this whole affair has been reduced to a salary/wage increment, playing easily into the hands of those who said at the onset that all this noise was about better pay and not improved healthcare looking at how the situation is developing KMPDU need to re-think their motives and make it clear whether their ultimate goal was improved public health service delivery (at some point there was even talk of arab-spring), or whether all they needed was more cash in the wallet. sadly it looks like eventually there will be more cash in the wallet, but still the same old poor service delivery whether its due to poor facilities, lack of essentials, absentee health care professionals, inadequate staffing, etc will revisit this issue in a few weeks/months meanwhile here is the clip from the return to work formula - mwalimmkuu - sorry i pulled it back to include the text above - also concur that the doctors had boxed themselves into a corner. however looking at history, it appears that this is the only way to get appropriate response from government. i dont think they had much choice from the 2001 article earlier posted by hannali == At Machakos National Hospital, an hour outside of Nairobi, doctors walked out on strike last year to demand basic supplies. The government eventually delivered a large stock of drugs. == this is 11 years later (more than a decade) hannali - prolonged dispute with the government is fraught with traitors and opportunists who will find and exploit avenues to make cash or gain some new power/authority on both sides, that is not entirely unexpected. however, straying away from the 13 point guideline is a critical error. instead of developing the 13 point issue into a workable strategic plan to improve healthcare or public health service delivery with government backing, the negotiation team has reduced it into a salary/wage battle. on that score doctors have lost battle no. 1. they may get the cash award, but poor service delivery will continue and in fact may get worse
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Post by hunter on Dec 12, 2011 23:41:57 GMT 3
Doctors and poor kenyans relying on the public health system have been raped without a condom... The KMPDU leadership has been bought and is a sham,disgrace and vomited in the face of Kenyan doctors,medical practitioners and the average Kenyans depending on public healthcare facilities. The leadership has conned,cheated us and the average & sick Kenyans and is responsible for those who have died as a result of this strike as they have been bought cheaply with their blood.... We however have a plan B,C,D........ Aluta Continua....Mapambano Continua. Meanwhile soma hapa: www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why+striking+doctors+have+lost+the+plot+/-/440808/1288350/-/ugr5eaz/-/index.htmlI listened to the clip TNK had posted here earlier ( ), and I think, the doctors did the right thing. After boxing themselves in a corner, there was no way out. Let us give the yet to be formed task force a chance and see what they come up with and what the government will do after that. Remember even lecturers are going through the same at the moment. We were told this strike was about us, the Wanjikus, and that salaries was just one of the 15 items to be looked at. When some of us who happened to have seen the hyena and called it so tried to raise opposition to the strike, we were reminded of our loved ones who will die, the poor state of facilities in the public hospitals and the poor working conditions. Today we are being told that an engel of God visited our hospitals, supplied facilities and improved the working conditions? What about the gloves? Is our Doctors any different from our members of parliament? Its not a sicrate that Doctors never cared about the health care & facilities afterall. They played with the public good-will & support 4 selfish gain. Surelly this bunch of selfish, greedy and heartless group of individuals owe Kenyans an apology. Untill that is done I will say 'Shame on them'.
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Post by hannali on Dec 13, 2011 0:07:45 GMT 3
....its a pity this CYANOSED DUDE pretending to be acting in the interests of KMPDU sounds like those KANU STALWARTS & GERIATRICS...dude...the govt is not law..damn it...we got a constituion....damn it... LOOK AT KENYA'S CONSTITUTION PREAMBLE !!!..who decides there will be a govt..we are not nincompoops my guy....DOCTORS!!!
What is he going to tell the patients who have suffered and died due to this strike???
What will he do when our hospitals have no medications,facilities,equipment and are rotting away???
Chitayi!!!!,....Chitayi!!!......Chitayi!!!!!... I feel like you have raped me a thousand times and may the fleas in the armpits of a thousand camels infest you.....What a night!!
The DOCTORS STRIKE IS STILL ON TOMORROW and we will make press statements
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Post by einstein on Dec 13, 2011 1:24:52 GMT 3
....its a pity this CYANOSED DUDE pretending to be acting in the interests of KMPDU sounds like those KANU STALWARTS & GERIATRICS...dude...the govt is not law..damn it...we got a constituion....damn it... LOOK AT KENYA'S CONSTITUTION PREAMBLE !!!..who decides there will be a govt..we are not nincompoops my guy....DOCTORS!!! What is he going to tell the patients who have suffered and died due to this strike??? What will he do when our hospitals have no medications,facilities,equipment and are rotting away??? Chitayi!!!!,....Chitayi!!!......Chitayi!!!!!...I feel like you have raped me a thousand times and may the fleas in the armpits of a thousand camels infest you.....What a night!!The DOCTORS STRIKE IS STILL ON TOMORROW and we will make press statements Hannali,Wow, that is fire and brimstone!!! I'm with you ALL the way!!
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Post by akinyi2005 on Dec 13, 2011 1:35:53 GMT 3
may the fleas in the armpits of a thousand camels infest you..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hannali on Dec 13, 2011 8:45:58 GMT 3
THE DOCTORS STRIKE IS STILL ON
The KMPDU constitution was not followed in calling the strike off.
The fury here is palpable. The goodwill that we had from the public has the risk of going too since there is no clear plan to state how healthcare is going to change...especially now that many lives were lost.
MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WANT THE STRIKE ON. It doesn't matter if we lose everything that was done on that negotiation table. If NEC thinks they can't do this, the honorable thing to do for the sake of doctors is to step aside and let members reconstitute the NEC. Otherwise, as it is many doctors tonight have shed a tear. Many are devastated. Many are confused what to do in the morning when they wake up.
Most doctors have risked everything to ensure the 13 points were implemented. Only the pay issue was addressed partially in that negotiation table. Now they have lost their dignity in society for a paltry 90k. Will they afford their health? NO. Will the patients afford reasonable healthcare? NO. Was setting aside money to employ 200 doctors part of the 13 points? NO
I would WOULD RATHER RESIGN THAN GO BACK to MEDIOCRITY.
Aluta Continua.......Mapambano Continua
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Post by merlin on Dec 13, 2011 14:50:38 GMT 3
@ Jakaswanga The strike is all about patients rights, how long must we continue to accept mediocre services? counterfeit drugs? inadequate or absent facilities and supplies? Hannali If you are the doctor's voice on Jukwaa, and you believe that the strike is about patient right, then you lie to yourselves and also to Kenyans. The most important thing about the strike and what the noise has been even when the doctors went to the streets was matters of the stomach. Talks with the ministry collapsed not because the ministry could not guarantee original drugs and fresh linen...it was because of a disagreement on MONEY. Kamale,Reality proved you wrong; the doctors’ strike is still on being more than stomach money. The change we are longing for is an accumulation of the individual changes of people (read Maslow). Predicting motives of people based on yesterdays Kenya could be erroneous. Why not give credit to the new society of Kenya instead of blaming people not to comply with the society of yesterday? The strike has consequences and probably some people will die of it but take this in respect with all the deaths due to insufficiency of the current system. If the strike can end successful resulting in even a slight improvement of health services than a thousand times more people will be saved from untimely death as the few whose deaths are contributable to the strike action.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Dec 13, 2011 16:28:41 GMT 3
Merlin, If you had a relative dying in those hospitals over an ailment that a doctor would treat in minutes your story here would be very different I bet. Thank God you are in North America where you only need to activate an EMS and ambulance arrives in minutes.
We surely have a long way to go before reaching this end, but we should be careful not to come up with mechanisms that compromise the same lives that we are 'fighting to save' as has been the case with this strike.
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Post by mintos on Dec 13, 2011 18:41:57 GMT 3
Now see what Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear says about teh kenyan doctors strike dailystandard.iblog.co.za/2011/12/jeremy-clarkson-striking-kenyan-doctors-should-be-shot/Continued Clarkson: ” I would have them commit suicide, now that they have no other use… [get them] to jump in front of the only train Kenya has - the one that we, the British, left them with after we let them have their useless independence - and make sure that after they are run over, the train keeps going with its journey… let foxy woxy and the birds nibble away at the smaller, gooey parts that are far away or hard to find [on the train tracks].”
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Post by merlin on Dec 13, 2011 19:25:19 GMT 3
Merlin, If you had a relative dying in those hospitals over an ailment that a doctor would treat in minutes your story here would be very different I bet. Thank God you are in North America where you only need to activate an EMS and ambulance arrives in minutes. We surely have a long way to go before reaching this end, but we should be careful not to come up with mechanisms that compromise the same lives that we are 'fighting to save' as has been the case with this strike. Master,You are right. I would be in grief an emotional feeling which would push my rational thinking far into the background. However situations cannot be analysed and improved by emotional feelings. To change the dilapidated health services needs rational thinking in search of solutions. This is what we are discussing here. Use your emotional feelings in private relations or in front of the TV watching sports or soap though it will not work well in discussion groups like JUKWAA. I am not in North America but in Ukunda at the South coast of Kenya. The nearest hospital is in Msambweni or Mombasa. However there are two excellent private hospitals within 3 Km distance at Diani Beach for the AAR insured, well to do citizens or tourists visiting our beautiful beaches. This is the unfair two pronged health organisation in Kenya. But change will come and a national health insurance for everyone could see light in the future. I think it could be based on private insurance companies and hospitals (to improve services by competition) within a framework set by the government.
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Post by hannali on Dec 13, 2011 21:52:53 GMT 3
2346 Doctors are handing over their resignation to the Kenyan Government on Friday
We are tired of being used and spent and having no meaningful work environment
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