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Post by reporter911 on May 26, 2012 21:37:39 GMT 3
This is exactly the kind of trash-talk that reduces debate to juvenille mashada-like rants and trivialities. Well, I have time today - I'll deal with it systematically. When you are wont to quickly call people names like AS.S and such, it reflects much about YOU than those you direct the matusi towards. I can grant you that no one person has a monopoly of matusi, but we just choose whether we want to turn this forum into another mashada. Probably that's your intention. For some who've graced this forum for a while, it's better to safeguard the board away from petty, trivial and juvenille exchanges of matusi. The very kind you feel entitled bringing here occasionally. You must clearly remember when you called politicalmaniac a M.F. (mo.ther.*er). You went ahead into a smart Aleck mode by claiming M.F simply meant "my friend". You may have your following that is thrilled and entertained by such antics, but I insist - bring any of your arguments clean from such sideshows. Rather than keep ignoring this habit that devalues a place for mature intellectual debate - I will insist on calling Oloo to remove useless threads that add no value to mature discourse. What makes you think you can shut me from discussing this topic? Is it some entilement or authority you monopolize which I don't know? Please educate and bedazzle me. Are you the pupil who shuts up and have the teacher talk all day or vice-versa - the teacher who shuts up and lets students give their views (many misguided). Take this from me. I will freely express myself in any topic I so wish - nationalisms in Africa included. It's pretty obvious your emotions easily cloud your reading (& interpretation) of my earlier post. Just where did I ask Oloo to banish you from Jukwaa. My post is still fresh up there. I simply asked (& continue to ask) Oloo to bring down this godarn useless thread. The two aren't synonymous. As for Dugashvilli, if he were that important to bring food to my table - you bet I would be singing Dugashvilli day in day out. Omera, do your thing with Dugashvilli, let me do mine. Listen to your arrogant self waxing about rage and denial. Who is poor Job to deny Jakaswanga his claim to Jaluo-ness? For Pete's sake, I don't freakin' know you Jakaswanga! I'll reiterate again, I'm not easily fooled by online monikers and animated cue-ing. You may be what you say or not - that's just the nature of cyber and it's attendants. Some work hard to make believe what they aren't and vice-versa. I will oblige buddy. That is exactly why I will quickly refer you to this lil' article (below) easily laid down in lay terms at wikipedia. It is definitely an area my mind knows something about:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatredOk anyone who wants to join me, let's sit baaaaaack!!!!!!! and watch this thread dedicated to Jakaswanga's ego serve it's intended purpose! Be my guest! Well said Job and those other members who come out in respect of Jukwaa Blog.. not sure why Oloo is allowing Jakaswanga nasty theatrics seems they are suited for the Mashada blog post.. tarnishing Jukwaa image should be stopped.. members should just ignore him.. no need to stoop low to his level.. and those who want to humor him when he is throwing insults on members here, I guess the world has enough cheerleaders to boost some ego's! enough said... but.. if it is about matusi... I'm sure many members on Jukwaa can hold there on against Jakaswanga, but they prefer not to tarnish jukwaa respected image Oloo should pull this thread immediately!! it is an insult to Jukwaa members.
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Post by job on May 26, 2012 21:50:56 GMT 3
I am publicly calling on Oloo (admin) to take down this juvenille thread centered around Jakaswanga’s bloated ego. Unlike the mashadas of cyber, JUKWAA should be a forum for mature adults! If indeed JUKWAA still has a ZERO Tolerance policy for: Trash talkers, tribalists, racists, sexists, homophobes, religious bigots and cyberstalkers...then we must not have this thread on this board. Throwing in a few irrelevant names of Ugandan Luo does not veil the personalized and juvenille nature of this self-serving thread. Jakaswanga is clearly cyberstalking a few debators he disagreed with (Einstein, nalinali et al.) and using them as a basis to harass and disparage an entire community through misguided stereotypes and irrelevant claims. He thinks he is being clever by ‘baiting’ those he stereotypes as ‘insensitive Luos’ to this thread. How about the thread comes down!We should not entertain personalized threads dedicated to massaging individual egos or launching tribal bashes. Such nonsense does not qualify as debate. If JUKWAA were to succumb to this trend where fellas collectively lumpen a few debators who disagree with them – under stereotypic banners on seperate threads– we shall spiral straight into another mashada type forum. And for starters, the fact that Jakaswanga claims he is Luo { or writes copious amounts of unsolicited statements in Dholuo (laboriously followed by their translation into English)} does not necessarily mean he is Luo. He could be violating more of JUKWAA’s no-go zones for zero-tolerance. Why must someone exhibit a chronic need to remind their audience he can actually write in Dholuo? But even if Jakaswanga were a self-hating Luo (or part Luo) paradoxically manifesting some false consciousness – by constantly trying to appease and embrace the indictments of bigoted Luo-bashers – JUKWAA is not a free clinic for Stockholm syndrome. Jeeez! wow Job you said "And for starters, the fact that Jakaswanga claims he is Luo" I have other stuff to say about this, but for now I'd like to ask you if you can suggest what my kids should consider themselves. Luos, Merus, Canadians, Kenyans. How about your kids, are they luos? If they should ever critique the Luo elites will their voices be delegitimized by being cast as outsiders by other Luos? Kathure,Context, context, context!!!!!!! You lopped off half of that sentence you quote. The effect is a complete change in its meaning. Here's the complete sentence: And for starters, the fact that Jakaswanga claims he is Luo {or writes copious amounts of unsolicited statements in Dholuo (laboriously followed by their translation into English)} does not necessarily mean he is Luo.
It is what it is - quite straight-forward. Someone posing with a moniker like Danielwaweru or say barmasaingkeiyo can actually claim to be what they are not. It's also possible they accurately state what they indeed are. This generic statement applies for persons interacting in cyber whether it's Jakaswanga or any other folks for that matter. Take it from me, I have no problem with Jakaswanga or anyone else calling out ills by the Luo elite in political leadership. I do it myself. But I can similarly discern the line between a collective critique of an entire community (guised as Jaluos), and that of its politicians. The latter is clearly based on stereotyping - highlighting certain perceived characteristics. Such is the kind I will call out, alongside personalized debates in the line of cyberstalking. If you put the right context, I'm sure to be on the same page.
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Post by job on May 26, 2012 23:09:18 GMT 3
The technique of excommunication by origins --these are foreign ideologies and we are africans (Moi), is a pillar instrument in fascist and authoritarian ideology. The foreigner or other as a hate figure, the embodiment of all that which is bad and reprehensible. Authenticity is superiority is ascribed to the pure blood, and used to exclude the other!
Put it another way, behind Raila could be some pure-blood Luos, and suspected lesser Luos like Jakaswanga would, with supremacist door-keepers like Job, be confined to the perimeter equivalents of Soviet Siberia!
Reallyyyyy!!!! The propagandist instinct in you has now landed into theories of exclusion by pure-blood. Theories which conveniently turn debate opponents into the supposed hate-figure boogeymen...for sympathy-seeking endeavours. Job is now supposedly the pure-blood supremacist...to be used as a scare-crow...to scare the bejezuuus out of souls you seek to please. Raila - the master scare-crow- had to have his name convenietly dragged along...to amplify the phobia.You need to come to terms with your OWN issues, including any lingering ambiguities or ambivalences. Stop searching for scapegoats - who have nothing to do with the your blood's composition. Tagging debate opponents with labels such as supremacist door-keepers will not stiffle debate!!! Neither does it walk you towards achieving what you (paradoxically) wish: an ALL INCLUSIVE, LIBERTARIAN, EGALITARIAN, MERITOCRATIC, MODERNIZED LUO NATIONALISM! What is the logical basis for arriving at this sweeping conclusion? Just where did Luo-asili, and Manayala analogy pop-up from; if not your own inherent inciteful tendencies? You seem to have an agenda that is increasingly becoming clear. Quite sleek, but still perceptible. The stockholm syndrome analogy is precisely directed at you Jakaswanga - not any Manyala people or Kaswanga people, fullstop! Quit inviting the Manyala people to help you dish out hate. Bure kabisa!!!!! [/b] [/size][/quote] For the umpteenth time, I do not even know you - leave alone any mixed blood ancestry. These are your own figments of imagination....on whose foundation you build a fake castle to host many of your invitees... This useless thread is your creation - it's precisely about your ego...which was spurned by nalinali, einstein et al...before you rushed to label them Luo nationalists.... Own up when busted.
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Post by jakaswanga on May 26, 2012 23:18:36 GMT 3
For the sake of peace, I will declare this one a draw. Let's go back to a sport that all can enjoy, e.g. beating up Miguna. YOu mean he resurrected? I thought we lynched him and strung him for dead, leaving him swinging on some tree like some hapless negro chanced upon some mean KKK guys in Old Mississippi?
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Post by jakaswanga on May 26, 2012 23:41:33 GMT 3
Job,True time is a precious commodity, but you will find time to respond to a severe criticism of comprador Luo nationalism --whether you like it or not! why? because you recognize this is a civil war by other means! And fighting wars that matter or not, is just the thing folks do. So no thanks for availing your time. It is needful duty! First the title: the anxieties of Luo nationalisms. So&So against the rest! Right on the money when I predicted it would be Jakaswanga versus the rest. That is just how nationalisms work when they are hotly generating a consensus and there is a solitary caution. So I gathered as much because I actually have witnessed nationalisms underbelly, and seen it in its most demented form, the genocidal one; and followed her lines of operation and evolution on the path of aggression in some specific case. Nationalism is still a force worth comprehending to the full, for the moral sanity of a nation-community. [In this reading, one can reason the tribulations of Ruto and Uhuru are consequences of this what I call 'moral insanity' Crimes against humanity as a nationalist moral lapse, failure].
But it has been our [Luo] nationalism which has been captivating my attentions in the last years. I instinctively knew that a meticulous revelation of some of her cherished, necessary illusions, would be dropping blood-drops in a pool of piranhas! And so indeed. Look you in all hysterics calling for a pull-down of the thread, talking mashada and preoccupied with Jakaswanga's ego (or his remarks about his ego! which may owe more to a rabid sense of humour than all else)
The otherwise obvious intellectual need to deconstruct this powerful mobilizer in the contention for power, the duty to subject it to a fine-comb critical analysis, becomes practically ouside your senses!
NB: But Why Luo nationalism then, as the specific case of MY choice? (If anybody bothers to wonder?)
Open door policy! Jukwaa reputedly boasts elite commentators, some of whom I suspect are Jaluos, and therefore in my opinion, it would be easy for them to, combining lived experience with intellectual dexterity, perform an analytical feat to shed light on all facets of the phenomenon as it manifests itself within their [subconscious?] backyard so to speak. And historically opportune too, given a near total consensus of Luo nationalism in the total mobilization for state power, aka project Agwambo. There is also the element of know thyself, apart from just the pleasure of high-power mental communion on an important issue.
But then, wonder of wonders! The minds of Great Folks spurt, throws coughs and gives up on the job! they wants the thread down! The thread celebrates the monstrous ego of jakaswanga the fake Luo! But absolutely nothing to say on the differentiations and contradictions within Luo nationalism? Ha ha! perhaps they never heard of any!? It is beyond their current conception that it is possible to subject Luo nationalist consciousness to a class analysis! ---Oh no! the thread celebrates Mr. Planetary ego!
But why this wretched animosity toward a disciplined and august study of the own nationalism, from folks who are everready to especially launch expensive treatises at the dominant clique within the House of Mumbi? brains blazing and all?
(If you ask me, the House of Mumbi's radical intellectuals have as much as completed the task of demystifying gikuyu unitary nationalism! ---having achieved state-power quickly helps see through the illusions and self-deceptions of nationalist consciousness as I stated in the Uganda case of our omins.) So why do the elite Jaluos of a certain make, get into all states when evidently mediocre comprador Luo nationalism gets the hard attention of Jakaswanga? Because it is a discordant tone in the bleeting uniform choir. More like sedition if you know the KANU days. Not bound by the conventions of the mediocre comprador, my freedom and independence of thought, and the eloquence in its dissemination is a harbinger of more discord. Toward an alternative narrative.
Job, you are 'banned' from discussing nationalisms in Africa because the truths of the one which is of immidiate concern and where you could throw your weight around, unnerve and unhinge your safeties and hopes. It is like Jakaswanga is threatening your most powerful investment. Calling it a sham-stock! And there goes your otherwise good faculties.
The Luo intellectual wing of comprador nationalism unmasked and caught wits down! And about time too!
I will be back!
This is exactly the kind of trash-talk that reduces debate to juvenille mashada-like rants and trivialities. Well, I have time today - I'll deal with it systematically. When you are wont to quickly call people names like AS.S and such, it reflects much about YOU than those you direct the matusi towards. I can grant you that no one person has a monopoly of matusi, but we just choose whether we want to turn this forum into another mashada. Probably that's your intention. For some who've graced this forum for a while, it's better to safeguard the board away from petty, trivial and juvenille exchanges of matusi. The very kind you feel entitled bringing here occasionally. You must clearly remember when you called politicalmaniac a M.F. (mo.ther.*er). You went ahead into a smart Aleck mode by claiming M.F simply meant "my friend". You may have your following that is thrilled and entertained by such antics, but I insist - bring any of your arguments clean from such sideshows. Rather than keep ignoring this habit that devalues a place for mature intellectual debate - I will insist on calling Oloo to remove useless threads that add no value to mature discourse. What makes you think you can shut me from discussing this topic? Is it some entilement or authority you monopolize which I don't know? Please educate and bedazzle me. Are you the pupil who shuts up and have the teacher talk all day or vice-versa - the teacher who shuts up and lets students give their views (many misguided). Take this from me. I will freely express myself in any topic I so wish - nationalisms in Africa included. It's pretty obvious your emotions easily cloud your reading (& interpretation) of my earlier post. Just where did I ask Oloo to banish you from Jukwaa. My post is still fresh up there. I simply asked (& continue to ask) Oloo to bring down this godarn useless thread. The two aren't synonymous. As for Dugashvilli, if he were that important to bring food to my table - you bet I would be singing Dugashvilli day in day out. Omera, do your thing with Dugashvilli, let me do mine. Listen to your arrogant self waxing about rage and denial. Who is poor Job to deny Jakaswanga his claim to Jaluo-ness? For Pete's sake, I don't freakin' know you Jakaswanga! I'll reiterate again, I'm not easily fooled by online monikers and animated cue-ing. You may be what you say or not - that's just the nature of cyber and it's attendants. Some work hard to make believe what they aren't and vice-versa. I will oblige buddy. That is exactly why I will quickly refer you to this lil' article (below) easily laid down in lay terms at wikipedia. It is definitely an area my mind knows something about:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatredOk anyone who wants to join me, let's sit baaaaaack!!!!!!! and watch this thread dedicated to Jakaswanga's ego serve it's intended purpose! Be my guest!
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Post by jakaswanga on May 26, 2012 23:57:22 GMT 3
Well said Job and those other members who come out in respect of Jukwaa Blog.. not sure why Oloo is allowing Jakaswanga nasty theatrics seems they are suited for the Mashada blog post.. tarnishing Jukwaa image should be stopped.. members should just ignore him.. no need to stoop low to his level.. and those who want to humor him when he is throwing insults on members here, I guess the world has enough cheerleaders to boost some ego's! enough said... but.. if it is about matusi... I'm sure many members on Jukwaa can hold there on against Jakaswanga, but they prefer not to tarnish jukwaa respected image Oloo should pull this thread immediately!! it is an insult to Jukwaa members. Reporter, Would, that you really could mean you could hold your own against I! I will just rank you here with the rest who have to parasite on Job's sword. There is a gladiatorial duel going on here, and what reporter can best do with honour, is spectate! But the world being the world, the excited whine of a cheergirl from beside the ring adds spice to mortal combat! All in a day's work you are welcome! Pull the thread down? Nop, just sit baaaaack .. and dont eat your nails!
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Post by nalinali on May 27, 2012 0:26:05 GMT 3
Jakaswanga
this TED clip has done rounds and you may have seen it already. It might just pay to listen to the kernel of Chimamanda Adichie's call.
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Post by jakaswanga on May 27, 2012 0:34:18 GMT 3
Reallyyyyy!!!! The propagandist instinct in you has now landed into theories of exclusion by pure-blood. Theories which conveniently turn debate opponents into the supposed hate-figure boogeymen...for sympathy-seeking endeavours. Job is now supposedly the pure-blood supremacist...to be used as a scare-crow...to scare the bejezuuus out of souls you seek to please. Raila - the master scare-crow- had to have his name convenietly dragged along...to amplify the phobia.Yap, really. Because I am sure you know the subtext of questioning the realness of those who claim Luo identity. You also know the context in which it is imported into discussions. If you were dumb, I would make no point about it. But I have been around and about, and I catch! Undertones O deadly undertones! When the unsaid is the loudest saidraila: You are simply not aware of the grassroot operations of all manner of agendas, all in the name of the project. A kind of general corruption that mirrors the national. You need to come to terms with your OWN issues, including any lingering ambiguities or ambivalences. Stop searching for scapegoats - who have nothing to do with the your blood's composition. Tagging debate opponents with labels such as supremacist door-keepers will not stiffle debate!!! Neither does it walk you towards achieving what you (paradoxically) wish: an ALL INCLUSIVE, LIBERTARIAN, EGALITARIAN, MERITOCRATIC, MODERNIZED LUO NATIONALISM! The unitary state or the federal state for multi-national post colonial states, is one of my ambiguities! Must we all really be citizens of the same country if our ethnic identities are that manifest, or we should just be a commonwealth? [or did you mean issues like always chasing the roundest butt of feminine? ] yhat one is a bit too hot to blog on this family blog! Ambivalences yeah, when poets like the langi [Okijok] or something like that write: And a LWo Homeland come For I owe no loyaty to Berlin! AH Nubia to Lake Min Nailo Thunder by Death the Lwo flow!Do you see what I am saying Job. The ambivalences of loyalty. And perhaps THIS THREAD is part of working on such ambivalences! What is the logical basis for arriving at this sweeping conclusion? Just where did Luo-asili, and Manayala analogy pop-up from; if not your own inherent inciteful tendencies? You seem to have an agenda that is increasingly becoming clear. Quite sleek, but still perceptible. The stockholm syndrome analogy is precisely directed at you Jakaswanga - not any Manyala people or Kaswanga people, fullstop! Quit inviting the Manyala people to help you dish out hate. Bure kabisa!!!!! You deny the existence of a disdain for the assimilated peoples amongst some Luo-asili folk, which is used to EXCLUDE, or you say I misused this example, which I conseder a class complex of a certain consciouness? have [/b] [/size][/quote] For the umpteenth time, I do not even know you - leave alone any mixed blood ancestry. These are your own figments of imagination....on whose foundation you build a fake castle to host many of your invitees... This useless thread is your creation - it's precisely about your ego...which was spurned by nalinali, einstein et al...before you rushed to label them Luo nationalists.... Own up when busted. [/quote] The firepower it takes to bust me on this kind of ideological dispute has not been reached Job. And can not be generated within the batteries of Comprador anger! And you should know there could be a much more on the hand reason why those two 'spurn' the thread as you put it! --When the going gets tough ...
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Post by job on May 27, 2012 2:11:50 GMT 3
Job,True time is a precious commodity, but you will find time to respond to a severe criticism of comprador Luo nationalism --whether you like it or not! why? because you recognize this is a civil war by other means! And fighting wars that matter or not, is just the thing folks do. So no thanks for availing your time. It is needful duty! You're off the mark as I predicted. Disingenuity is best unveiled when time allows the opportunity. This is a good starting place to unveil your disingenuity. It also points at the still-contestable issue of planetary ego. Revisit your own title : Luo Nationalisms Anxieties: Jakaswanga and da rest.There-in lies the planetary ego. Jakaswanga versus the rest. Notice you now want to run away from it - by conflating (substituting) your name into "So and So". The guts to phrase it - Jakaswanga versus the rest - has suddenly melted away! Your opening statement was specifically directed at: again quoting you: Johns, Einstein, Nalinali and the hiding Rest! I guess that's the lot you prescribe the title hypothesis upon. It is notable they engaged you in a seperate thread /debate...from where (it was easily discernible) your ego was bruised. Einstein particlularly asked why a meticulous Luo (your words) fierce at criticizing others - Jakaswanga - would end up fired from his teaching job. You then rebutted without batting an eyelid (or engaging the cerebral cortex)- that you abandoned your students (whose tuition fee pays your salary) for a month; on the strength of an sms communicated to your boss. I know this is a subject you'd conveniently want to dance away from. Talk about the culture of impunity and corruption. Jakaswanga, what moral authority do you surely have to lecture any of these politicians about impunity or corruption? This is outright thievery. Forget about Luo nationalism Jakaswanga - what's up with this moral debauchery? Any anxieties and insensitivities about this bitter truth? Do you still have any wonder why you were fired - by the boss who sat beside you in the plane? Your disingenuous ways were caught and nipped on the bud - trying to take advantage of poor students and their parents. Amen to dat! Da rest is history! When einstein raised this point mutely.... your swift answer was this thread....You quickly migrated the angst and need to hit back into this brand new (diversionary) thread...whereupon you started by lumpooning the debate opponents into a collective pool of Luos - inviting them for a "debate" on Luo nationalism. Timely distraction! Quite a convenient safety-valve to catch attention of another audience. Predictably, Kamale and your 'fellow mwalimu' (God bless Kenya's school-children) were swift to jump onto your side. Just like that - your ego trip was now at the expense of traditional Luo phobia...and bashing....usual Raila phobia yada yada yada...guised as self-evaluating intellectualism.... Bingo it was for you. Puleeeeeeez!!!!Not so fast Amigo!!!! Just like that - the egocentric Jakaswanga made a mark as the self-arrogated safety-valve for 'fierce and deadly' Luo nationalism; the purveyor who calls upon Luo sensitivities and anxieties. May I ask, who's the guardian against vile nationalism in Kaswanga or anywhere else for that matter? When you lose a debate to einstein, johns or nalinali, or whenever your ego is hurt - this resort to trash-talk guised as intellectual interrogation of Luo nationalism raises a lot of questions. Questions that brush JUKWAA's zero-tolerance policy wrongly. How the heck do you know the respective ethnicities of Johns, nalinali, and einstein in the first place...and why the heck do you think everyone believes what people say they are on cyber. This is what is called tabia mbaya Jakaswanga.Of course you had the sensibility to anticipate being caught. You may fool a few, but not all. Your ego-filled title (above) easily gives you away. This ain't about Jakaswanga and the rest...it's about you versus your own soul and conscience...your unconventional debating tactics...penchant to detract through controversy and headline-grabbers...and the will to super stretch the truth via irrelevant attention-seeking side-shows. So in your books, you're subtly attributing 'moral insanity' towards - einsten, johns, nalinali. Are they also headed towards the same genocidal trajectory of wakina Ruto and Uhuru. Isn't that what your point has been all along? This moral equivalency argument is yet another tactic to miminize real crimes commited by actual genocidiaries. By beautifully laying the argument that almost everyone is 'morally insane', so we should quit the habit of pointing fingers at the bad people...what then is your society end game? A society where people don't criticize lest they are called out for hypocrisy? Try your luck! After all, haven't you been an absentee teacher on salary...who waxes high fallutin' lyrics on morals, ethics, governance, competence, and other values you ruthlessly breach? Oh really....captivating your attention in the last years? Is that the years Raila has been running for President? You must have experienced some epiphany...a Saul-to-Paul conversion of sorts. About humour... I sure get a taste of your "rabid sense of humour." Again, are you really sure this was your motivation for bringing this topic here in JUKWAA. Ati because you suspect to find Jaluos here? Isn't this contradiction coming too soon after your self-declaration that:But it has been our [Luo] nationalism which has been captivating my attentions in the last years. Are you not stating (above) in black and white that this Jaluo nationalism thing has been bothering your mind in the last years...just unleash it out of your chest! Bruised egos are such important issues that warrant a thread whose preamble must start: To,
einstein, johns, nalinali AND THE REST
Jakaswanga versus Luo Nationalism What is not in doubt is - of all the stocks floating around the political market today, like a majority (going by the public ratings) I would certainly only invest in one. Jakaswanga has zero control over that investment decision. Jakaswanga's terming of the stock a sham investment is certainly reflective of many cynical buyers who would rather stay away from investing, opting instead, to discuss the various stocks outside the bourse. Spectators who will then analyze the stocks a few years down the line - again from outside. Their faculties are wont to perennialy spectate from the outside and discuss...rather than throw the gauntlet and pick one stock. Anything else that's new? I'll sit baaaaack and wait...as we talk of headline-grabbing egos...remember this thread has your name on its title...specifically placed there by you. Ama?
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Post by reporter911 on May 27, 2012 3:22:23 GMT 3
Well said Job and those other members who come out in respect of Jukwaa Blog.. not sure why Oloo is allowing Jakaswanga nasty theatrics seems they are suited for the Mashada blog post.. tarnishing Jukwaa image should be stopped.. members should just ignore him.. no need to stoop low to his level.. and those who want to humor him when he is throwing insults on members here, I guess the world has enough cheerleaders to boost some ego's! enough said... but.. if it is about matusi... I'm sure many members on Jukwaa can hold there on against Jakaswanga, but they prefer not to tarnish jukwaa respected image Oloo should pull this thread immediately!! it is an insult to Jukwaa members. Reporter, Would, that you really could mean you could hold your own against I! I will just rank you here with the rest who have to parasite on Job's sword. There is a gladiatorial duel going on here, and what reporter can best do with honour, is spectate! But the world being the world, the excited whine of a cheergirl from beside the ring adds spice to mortal combat! All in a day's work you are welcome! Pull the thread down? Nop, just sit baaaaack .. and dont eat your nails! I get you!!! back stabbing and gossip has never been my forte!! back hand Sneaky information from close friends not surprising is it.. sometime in life we all make stupid character judgments , like I said I won't stoop to your level.. by the way I hear that the Kenya Luo' might speak the same language as the Acholi's and lango's of Uganda but that is where the similarities end! enuff said. Keep your keyboard rolling you seem used to having your ego massaged on cyberspace ;D
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Post by mzee on May 27, 2012 10:44:16 GMT 3
I agree with job. This thread adds no value on this board.
Tomorrow someone else will write about Luhya, Kikuyu or Pokomo in the same manner. All of a sudden the board will turn into something that it was not intended.
This must stop.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 27, 2012 13:13:18 GMT 3
Wana Jukwaa:
Apologies for being asleep at the wheel.
The reality is that I have been offline for the last three days or so.
I was alerted about this thread through a long distance phone call and an SMS- both from different countries in the Northern hemisphere.
I have read each and every posting on this thread.
I could say a lot, but I wont.
Therefore I will simply lock down this thread without deleting it. Any attempt to resuscitate as a new thread will be met with severe consequences.
Let us move on.
Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator
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