Miguna: Why the Silence from Human Rights Groups?

[Onyango Oloo]

HAVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS and WRITERS’ GROUPS BEEN COMPROMISED?

A PRESS STATEMENT BY MIGUNA MIGUNA, FRIDAY AUGUST 31, 2012

On February 14, 1989, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa (a death edict) against the celebrated British writer Salman Rushdie following the publication of Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses in 1988. The book became a centre of controversy worldwide, resulting in threats on the book, its author and on the author’s supporters. In its wake, some innocent people lost their lives, others suffered serious injuries and property worth millions of dollars was destroyed.

But Rushdie didn’t relent. Nor did the world abandon him in his quest to write freely and to exercise his freedom of thought, conscience, speech, expression and association.

Most publishers, writers, journalists, artists, musicians, international human rights organizations, writers’ groups, editors’ guilds, human rights defenders and world leaders were rightly united in their condemnation of the intolerance, the threats, the intimidations and violence against Rushdie, his works and against his freedom of thought and expression.

On Saturday, July 14, 2012, I launched my political memoirs, Peeling Back the Mask: A Quest For Justice In Kenya at the Intercontinental Hotel in Nairobi. The book is about my life, my political growth, the crystallization of my beliefs, ideology and philosophy and my experiences working as the senior adviser for coalition, constitutional and legal affairs for the Prime Minister of Kenya as well as being the joint secretary to the Permanent Committee on the Management of the Grand Coalition affairs.

Peeling Back The Mask traces my struggle against adversities and privations; the collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism; the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya; and exposes the pervasive culture of impunity, corruption, nepotism and abuse of public office within the grand coalition government.

However, rather than engage in reasoned debates on the issues addressed in my book, detractors and politicians who have built their careers on lies, hypocrisy and myths have resolved to violently attack me and the book. They have organized, sponsored and hired goons to disrupt my book tour events in Kisumu and Mombasa; events they were not invited to.

On Sunday August 25th, 2012, a group of hired hooligans forced their way into the Castle Royal Hotel in Mombasa and violently attacked me, disrupted my function, destroyed property and stole five books. They were openly and loudly chanting the name of the Prime Minister, Raila Amolo Odinga, and taunting and threatening to lynch me for not supporting him.

Two days before that – on Thursday August 23, 2012 – a group of hired goons, chanting the name of the Prime Minister, disrupted my book promotion event in Kisumu. Like in Mombasa, the paid thugs physically assaulted me while chanting the name of Raila Amolo Odinga and threatening to lynch me if I did not stop promoting my book. They claimed that I was the only one trying to prevent Mr. Odinga from becoming president in the forthcoming general elections. Mr. Odinga will never ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence. He can only do so by persuading Kenyans to vote for him based on his record, policies and intentions, all of which have been exposed as frauds!

The attacks were barbaric assaults on my fundamental freedom of thought, conscience, expression, association and movement. But even more chilling is that fact that the police watched helplessly as I was being attacked and took no steps to protect me, to prevent the physical assaults on me, and are yet to arrest and charge the goons who were captured by media cameras (and videos) committing these serious crimes. Why is Keriako Tobiko, the Director of Public Prosecutions, suddenly gone quiet? Where is Mzalendo Kibunjia, the chair of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission?

To date, Raila Odinga has not condemned these primitive attacks on me; attacks that were perpetrated in his name. His silence implies that he condones these barbaric attacks. A purported statement condemning the attacks that was released by the ODM Secretary General, Prof. Anyang’ Nyong’o, was promptly contradicted by another one released by the Raila Odinga Presidential Campaign Secretariat. Both statements attempted to blame me, the victim, for the violent attacks on me. Coming from the Prime Minister and so-called ‘leading presidential candidate,’ the message Mr. Odinga is sending through his campaign secretariat and Orange House is that no one has the right to disagree with him; that he is above the law.

Mr. Odinga’s obvious encouragement of attacks on his real or perceived opponents signal at all right thinking Kenyans of how intolerant and dictatorial he would be if he were to become president!

It is disappointing that the media tried to caricature the violent attacks on me and presented it as something to laugh at. They slanted the news of these two barbaric incidents and falsely projected them as an indication that ‘Kenyans did not like me or my book.’ The media has refused to expose the attacks as orchestrated by Raila Odinga and his goons for cheap political mileage. Instead, they have tried to mislead the public into believing that my function in Nakuru was also violently disrupted when the truth is that the three ODM officials who tried to heckle me there were muffled by the more than 2,000 peaceful Kenyans who attended and bought the book.

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

A cynical and false propaganda that I am being financed by Mr. Odinga’s political opponents and the NSIS is being peddled desperately without any basis whatsoever. Concocting stories, hurling abuse at me, threats, intimidation and attacks by hired goons will not deter me! The new Constitution was not meant for Mr. Odinga and his goons alone!

Why has Mr. Oding’a goons been able to disrupt my functions in broad day light and have physically assault me without eliciting condemnation from the Kenya Publishers Association, the media, human rights organizations (local and international), human rights defenders and writers’ groups?

Why is there a conspiracy of silence?

The attempt to silence me through humiliation, physical assault, concocted stories in the media and propaganda, are a brutal attack on my constitutional rights and they must not be tolerated. I challenge the media, human rights groups and our so-called human rights defenders to stand up and be counted or forever be consigned to spectators in the evolving culture of intolerance.

I will continue promoting my book and advocating for justice. The campaign against the culture and merchants of impunity will go on! Kenyans are awake!

I will be in Thika town on Sunday, September 2nd, 2012 from 10am at Lizziki Hall, Thika Arcade, First Floor. I will stop-over at Ruiru and Juja on my way to Thika.

Thank you.

MIGUNA MIGUNA
Nairobi, Kenya
August 31st, 2012



PS:Here are two youtube links to some recent interviews by Miguna:



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[reporter911]

Aug 31, 2012 22:02:31 GMT 3 Onyango Oloo said:

HAVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS and WRITERS’ GROUPS BEEN COMPROMISED?

A PRESS STATEMENT BY MIGUNA MIGUNA, FRIDAY AUGUST 31, 2012

On February 14, 1989, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa (a death edict) against the celebrated British writer Salman Rushdie following the publication of Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses in 1988. The book became a centre of controversy worldwide, resulting in threats on the book, its author and on the author’s supporters. In its wake, some innocent people lost their lives, others suffered serious injuries and property worth millions of dollars was destroyed.

But Rushdie didn’t relent. Nor did the world abandon him in his quest to write freely and to exercise his freedom of thought, conscience, speech, expression and association.

Most publishers, writers, journalists, artists, musicians, international human rights organizations, writers’ groups, editors’ guilds, human rights defenders and world leaders were rightly united in their condemnation of the intolerance, the threats, the intimidations and violence against Rushdie, his works and against his freedom of thought and expression.

On Saturday, July 14, 2012, I launched my political memoirs, Peeling Back the Mask: A Quest For Justice In Kenya at the Intercontinental Hotel in Nairobi. The book is about my life, my political growth, the crystallization of my beliefs, ideology and philosophy and my experiences working as the senior adviser for coalition, constitutional and legal affairs for the Prime Minister of Kenya as well as being the joint secretary to the Permanent Committee on the Management of the Grand Coalition affairs.

Peeling Back The Mask traces my struggle against adversities and privations; the collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism; the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya; and exposes the pervasive culture of impunity, corruption, nepotism and abuse of public office within the grand coalition government.

However, rather than engage in reasoned debates on the issues addressed in my book, detractors and politicians who have built their careers on lies, hypocrisy and myths have resolved to violently attack me and the book. They have organized, sponsored and hired goons to disrupt my book tour events in Kisumu and Mombasa; events they were not invited to.

On Sunday August 25th, 2012, a group of hired hooligans forced their way into the Castle Royal Hotel in Mombasa and violently attacked me, disrupted my function, destroyed property and stole five books. They were openly and loudly chanting the name of the Prime Minister, Raila Amolo Odinga, and taunting and threatening to lynch me for not supporting him.

Two days before that – on Thursday August 23, 2012 – a group of hired goons, chanting the name of the Prime Minister, disrupted my book promotion event in Kisumu. Like in Mombasa, the paid thugs physically assaulted me while chanting the name of Raila Amolo Odinga and threatening to lynch me if I did not stop promoting my book. They claimed that I was the only one trying to prevent Mr. Odinga from becoming president in the forthcoming general elections. Mr. Odinga will never ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence. He can only do so by persuading Kenyans to vote for him based on his record, policies and intentions, all of which have been exposed as frauds!

The attacks were barbaric assaults on my fundamental freedom of thought, conscience, expression, association and movement. But even more chilling is that fact that the police watched helplessly as I was being attacked and took no steps to protect me, to prevent the physical assaults on me, and are yet to arrest and charge the goons who were captured by media cameras (and videos) committing these serious crimes. Why is Keriako Tobiko, the Director of Public Prosecutions, suddenly gone quiet? Where is Mzalendo Kibunjia, the chair of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission?

To date, Raila Odinga has not condemned these primitive attacks on me; attacks that were perpetrated in his name. His silence implies that he condones these barbaric attacks. A purported statement condemning the attacks that was released by the ODM Secretary General, Prof. Anyang’ Nyong’o, was promptly contradicted by another one released by the Raila Odinga Presidential Campaign Secretariat. Both statements attempted to blame me, the victim, for the violent attacks on me. Coming from the Prime Minister and so-called ‘leading presidential candidate,’ the message Mr. Odinga is sending through his campaign secretariat and Orange House is that no one has the right to disagree with him; that he is above the law.

Mr. Odinga’s obvious encouragement of attacks on his real or perceived opponents signal at all right thinking Kenyans of how intolerant and dictatorial he would be if he were to become president!

It is disappointing that the media tried to caricature the violent attacks on me and presented it as something to laugh at. They slanted the news of these two barbaric incidents and falsely projected them as an indication that ‘Kenyans did not like me or my book.’ The media has refused to expose the attacks as orchestrated by Raila Odinga and his goons for cheap political mileage. Instead, they have tried to mislead the public into believing that my function in Nakuru was also violently disrupted when the truth is that the three ODM officials who tried to heckle me there were muffled by the more than 2,000 peaceful Kenyans who attended and bought the book.

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

A cynical and false propaganda that I am being financed by Mr. Odinga’s political opponents and the NSIS is being peddled desperately without any basis whatsoever. Concocting stories, hurling abuse at me, threats, intimidation and attacks by hired goons will not deter me! The new Constitution was not meant for Mr. Odinga and his goons alone!

Why has Mr. Oding’a goons been able to disrupt my functions in broad day light and have physically assault me without eliciting condemnation from the Kenya Publishers Association, the media, human rights organizations (local and international), human rights defenders and writers’ groups?

Why is there a conspiracy of silence?

The attempt to silence me through humiliation, physical assault, concocted stories in the media and propaganda, are a brutal attack on my constitutional rights and they must not be tolerated. I challenge the media, human rights groups and our so-called human rights defenders to stand up and be counted or forever be consigned to spectators in the evolving culture of intolerance.

I will continue promoting my book and advocating for justice. The campaign against the culture and merchants of impunity will go on! Kenyans are awake!

I will be in Thika town on Sunday, September 2nd, 2012 from 10am at Lizziki Hall, Thika Arcade, First Floor. I will stop-over at Ruiru and Juja on my way to Thika.

Thank you.

MIGUNA MIGUNA
Nairobi, Kenya
August 31st, 2012



PS:Here are two youtube links to some recent interviews by Miguna:



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Why has Mr. Oding’a goons been able to disrupt my functions in broad day light and have physically assault me without eliciting condemnation from the Kenya Publishers Association, the media, human rights organizations (local and international), human rights defenders and writers’ groups?

This is tasteless coming from Miguna! he should substantiate all allegations in his book first, hand over the "PEV" information he alleges he is withholding and start addressing facts, instead propaganda and accusations without proof whats-overs, does Raila control the Robots as he calls Kenya voters or goons or groupies? Miguna should be aware that he is indeed dealing with very informed intelligent Kenya society that can't be wood-wicked with propaganda, allegations and innuendo's... Kenyans will keep asking the same questions without getting tired until Miiguna substantiates all his allegations in his book and media announcements..enuff said!!

CENTRAL PROVINCE TOUR- MIGUNA WELCOMED AS A "HERO"

I will be in Thika town on Sunday, September 2nd, 2012 from 10am at Lizziki Hall, Thika Arcade, First Floor. I will stop-over at Ruiru and Juja on my way to Thika.

maybe this is why there is silence..

[mugabe]

Oh good another Miguna thread. enuff said

[moesha]

My response to Miguna

1. You are not Salma Rushdie, nor are you any close to becoming him. Salma Rushdie is a worldwide renowned novelist who has written many books, even winning a booker prize in 1981 for his book entitled “Midnight Children.”

Rushdie has had a string of commercially successful and critically acclaimed novels. His 2005 novel “Shalimar the Clown” received, in India, the prestigious Hutch Crossword Book Award, and was, in Britain, a finalist for the Whitebread Book Awards . It was shortlisted for the 2007 International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award.

In 2008 he even ranked 13th on the list of fifty best British writers. Tell us again, how many books have you written to-date? How many awards have you won? Who outside Kenya and maybe a section of Canada even recognizes you as a writer?

2. The “Satanic verses” which was based on magical realism was a finalist on the bookers prize in 1988, and the outrage over it had to do with a misunderstanding of a segment of Muslim leaders who thought he was making a mockery of their religion. The book actually had very positive reviews otherwise. Now compare that to “peeling back the mask?” No comparison.

3. Just because “hired goons” showed up at your book launch and started chanting the name Raila Odinga doesn’t mean anything given the heated presidential elections coming up. If you somehow are in position of knowledge or proof that he is behind them, then present your case at the nearest police station, Major Ali, Mutunga, AG or NSIS. We reviewed the footage of the launch and there was police in the video. Why didn’t they arrest anyone, with all that evidence?

4. Raila Odinga is not the civil rights group or the writers group. His silence means he is busy with other important issues affecting our country. By throwing temper tantrums, You are somehow deluded that he has time to spend on you given everything else going on in the country. You were a chapter in Raila’s life that has been closed, so try and move on. Your obsession with him is why you cannot clearly begin to look at why people are being hostile to you. Is it maybe because you insult them left and right, calling them voting robots?

5. Mombasa has been burning for the past few days in case you missed it. Before that we had a bloodbath in Turkana (again in case you missed that), while you go about marketing your book, quite nonchalant about those happenings. Those types of issues demand the attention of human rights group right now.

6. There is no conspiracy of silence. People are just really tired of your theatrics. No one is trying to silence you. Please continue selling your book in peace and I wish you much success in Thika on Sunday and when you stop over at Ruiru say hi to my aunt. Tell her I still remember the $20 she borrowed from me in 2010 and I will need it back when I come home for Christmas.

[5thestate]

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

Becouse your 5 minutes of fame is up and as a reminder that your momotonous message is not moving anything forward and frankly you are starting to get on thier nerves ..... people have moved on to bigger things.

Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7332#ixzz25ACaBpMN

[Mukwhasi]

Sept 1, 2012 1:03:52 GMT 3 5thestate said:

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

Becouse your 5 minutes of fame is up and as a reminder that your momotonous message is not moving anything forward and frankly you are starting to get on thier nerves ..... people have moved on to bigger things.

Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7332#ixzz25ACaBpMN

Miguna does not understand the basics of media businesss ,if a dog bites a man it is not considred news because thats normal but when a man bites a dog then we have headline material that will sell newspapers and attract large audience in the mass media ,even a clueless person should be able to understand this simple concept.

[Mukwhasi]

It is quite absurd for me to sit here and continue reading grabage from someone who does not have the patience to seduce a woman and instead resort to rape.Maybe my time in this "usedtobegood" blog is up too.

[mugabe]

Sept 1, 2012 1:47:08 GMT 3 Mukwhasi said:

It is quite absurd for me to sit here and continue reading grabage from someone who does not have the patience to seduce a woman and instead resort to rape.Maybe my time in this "usedtobegood" blog is up too.

Oh my goodness, I see the guillotine being sharpened. ;D

[Omwenga]

Miguna Miguna has issued a press statement titled “Have The Human Rights Ogranizations and Writers’ Groups Been Compromised” which I address to him in response as follows:

Miguna, you have said a number of things in this statement which even though the initial inclination for anyone who follows your unfolding drama from our side of the aisle is to ignore—and wisely so, let me nonetheless address what you have said if anything to once again put things in perspective for those who may have just landed from outer space and read your statement.

For easy following, what you said in your statement is in italics.

On February 14, 1989, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa (a death edict) against the celebrated British writer Salman Rushdie following the publication of Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses in 1988. The book became a centre of controversy worldwide, resulting in threats on the book, its author and on the author’s supporters. In its wake, some innocent people lost their lives, others suffered serious injuries and property worth millions of dollars was destroyed.

When you are done running around through the day peddling your shameless propaganda and lies, please take a pad and jot down a few things that may reasonably and objectively make your book different from Salman Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses or the author himself.

If you can’t do so or are unwilling to for any number of reasons, let me save you the time and paraphrase a famous line from an American Vice Presidential candidate in 1988 by the name Senator Lloyd Benstein when one hapless Republican VP candidate by the name Dan Quayle who, when he attempted to compare himself to John F Kennedy, the statesman and senior Senator retorted, “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

Well, Miguna, we know who Salman Rushdie is and we know what he wrote that offended radical Muslims like Ayatollah Khomenini to the point of issuing a fatwa against him. You are no Salman Rushdie and neither is what you have written so offensive as to warrant anyone sane to call for your head.

Rather, those who you have smeared, defamed or offended beginning from the main target of your smears and defamation himself all have actually chosen to dismiss you as a madman and may not even pursue a case of defamation against you because they believe you might successfully invoke the defense of insanity in a civil suit where even the Supreme Court would have to agree in affirming such a defense for the first time in history.

BTW, it is now becoming annoyingly boring in your persistent and shameless elevation to comparison to figures way above your scale; last time it was Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Makhan Singh, Achieng’ Oneko and Bildad Kaggia, to which yours truly kindly implored you not to compare yourself to these heroes as such out of respect to them now you have seen it fit to compare yourself to Salman Rushdie.

Please desist from invoking such comparisons for none of them come close to what you have done or are doing.

But Rushdie didn’t relent. Nor did the world abandon him in his quest to write freely and to exercise his freedom of thought, conscience, speech, expression and association.

True but what has this to do with you and your flopped book?

Most publishers, writers, journalists, artists, musicians, international human rights organizations, writers’ groups, editors’ guilds, human rights defenders and world leaders were rightly united in their condemnation of the intolerance, the threats, the intimidations and violence against Rushdie, his works and against his freedom of thought and expression.

Again, true but what has this to do with you and your flopped book?

On Saturday, July 14, 2012, I launched my political memoirs, Peeling Back the Mask: A Quest For Justice In Kenya at the Intercontinental Hotel in Nairobi. The book is about my life, my political growth, the crystallization of my beliefs, ideology and philosophy and my experiences working as the senior adviser for coalition, constitutional and legal affairs for the Prime Minister of Kenya as well as being the joint secretary to the Permanent Committee on the Management of the Grand Coalition affairs.

The first part of your book maybe about your life and your political and ideological growth but the rest of it is nothing but made up stuff, regurgitations of bar-room rumors, embellishment of facts and in some cases outright lies that add no value to any serious political discourse.

Peeling Back The Mask traces my struggle against adversities and privations; the collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism; the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya; and exposes the pervasive culture of impunity, corruption, nepotism and abuse of public office within the grand coalition government.

News flash: your “struggle against adversities and privations” is not unique to you and neither is the “collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism” or “the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya” something only you can speak to; in fact, millions of others who continued with the struggles after you safely exited the country to this day can and have so we fail to note why you think your contribution in this part of our history is something to write home about.

However, rather than engage in reasoned debates on the issues addressed in my book, detractors and politicians who have built their careers on lies, hypocrisy and myths have resolved to violently attack me and the book.

You may have been too busy penning your “memoir” while working for the PM you failed to notice there has been and continues to be rigorous debate among Kenyans about the future of our country to this day, including debate on the very issues you claim you have raised in your book.

In other words, Kenyans did not need your book to start debate these issues which are well known to all those who care to follow even remotely the goings on in our country and that debate will culminate in the next general elections when we all go to the polls to choose our leaders for the next five years, if not longer.

They have organized, sponsored and hired goons to disrupt my book tour events in Kisumu and Mombasa; events they were not invited to.

There is no evidence that anyone has done so but credible sourcing indicates if anything, you or your handlers are the ones who organized and staged the Mombasa scene where you lost your shoe and cap.

On Sunday August 25th, 2012, a group of hired hooligans forced their way into the Castle Royal Hotel in Mombasa and violently attacked me, disrupted my function, destroyed property and stole five books. They were openly and loudly chanting the name of the Prime Minister, Raila Amolo Odinga, and taunting and threatening to lynch me for not supporting him.

Again, credible sourcing and even a lay examination of the footage from the event confirms this was a staged event intended to do desperately link Raila and ODM with your travails but all to no avail.

Two days before that – on Thursday August 23, 2012 – a group of hired goons, chanting the name of the Prime Minister, disrupted my book promotion event in Kisumu. Like in Mombasa, the paid thugs physically assaulted me while chanting the name of Raila Amolo Odinga and threatening to lynch me if I did not stop promoting my book.

All reporting even from your die-hard supporters indicate the Kisumu event was very orderly and peaceful until you started insulting your audience upon which tempers flared and a few attendees wanted to land a few fists in your lips to shut you up.

There is no evidence any of this was organized by anyone but that is not to say anyone should condone resorting to fists or other forms of violence to express displeasure with your defamatory, reckless and insulting comments about Raila and Luos. You should be allowed to do whatever you are doing and be answerable only in the court of public opinion for those who find it offensive or in law courts for those who find it defamatory.

They claimed that I was the only one trying to prevent Mr. Odinga from becoming president in the forthcoming general elections.

This assertion is patently false because you’re not the only one trying to prevent Raila from becoming president in the next general elections.

You’re just saying it to make yourself that important when you’re obviously not.

Mr. Odinga will never ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence. He can only do so by persuading Kenyans to vote for him based on his record, policies and intentions, all of which have been exposed as frauds!

It’s true Raila will not ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence; he will do so on account of his leadership ability and successfully making the case he is the best qualified to be our next president among all those vying.

You assert that all of Raila’s record, policies and intentions have been exposed as “frauds.” Now, you claim to be more intelligent and smart than everyone else; can you re-read what you are saying here and see for yourself why it doesn’t make any sense or, put more politely, why it’s another lie of yours?

If that’s too much to ask, let me make it easier for you:

Raila spent nearly a decade in detention for his quest for reforms in the country; what was fraudulent about that heroic experience and sacrifice?

Raila successfully led in defeating passage of the watered down draft constitution Kibaki and co wanted to shove down our throats in 2005; what is fraudulent about that exemplary leadership?

Rather than demanding and insisting that he be sworn as president or that we have new elections after Kibaki lost but was sworn as president in 2007, Raila agreed to form a coalition government with the man who stole the elections; what is fraudulent about that statesman-like resolve?

When Kibaki attempted to yet again shove down our throats something we did not want this time in the illegal attempt to appoint his cronies to important constitutional offices, Raila stopped him dead on his tracks; what is fraudulent about that noble effort?

Should I go on to show you how your assertion that “all of Raila’s record, policies and intentions” have been exposed as “frauds” is full of you know what?

Your hyperbole and lies will in the end be the undoing of yourself besides yourself.

The attacks were barbaric assaults on my fundamental freedom of thought, conscience, expression, association and movement.

I agree with you that it’s barbaric to assault or attack anyone for expressing themselves or associating with others but, as noted above, there is credible information and evidence the Mombasa scene was staged so you may want to try some other line of drawing sympathy than this one.

But even more chilling is that fact that the police watched helplessly as I was being attacked and took no steps to protect me, to prevent the physical assaults on me, and are yet to arrest and charge the goons who were captured by media cameras (and videos) committing these serious crimes. Why is Keriako Tobiko, the Director of Public Prosecutions, suddenly gone quiet? Where is Mzalendo Kibunjia, the chair of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission?

None of this is necessary in a staged event—successful or not.

To date, Raila Odinga has not condemned these primitive attacks on me; attacks that were perpetrated in his name.

Raila need not condemn your specific incident whether staged or not because he is on record as having said neither he nor ODM condones any acts of violence in political discourse and that applies in your case.

I am sure you’ll be thrilled to no end but still continue in the course you’re on were Raila to come out and specifically condemn what happened in your case but if I were him I would not do so because it’s meaningless to do so and getting you thrilled or mollifying his enemies is the last thing I would want to do besides not making it any more meaningful or useful.

His silence implies that he condones these barbaric attacks.

No it does not; it merely means it’s not worth it for the reasons stated above.

A purported statement condemning the attacks that was released by the ODM Secretary General, Prof. Anyang’ Nyong’o, was promptly contradicted by another one released by the Raila Odinga Presidential Campaign Secretariat. Both statements attempted to blame me, the victim, for the violent attacks on me.

The statements speak for themselves and you’re the only one whining about them because the truths in them sting.

Coming from the Prime Minister and so-called ‘leading presidential candidate,’ the message Mr. Odinga is sending through his campaign secretariat and Orange House is that no one has the right to disagree with him; that he is above the law.

False.

People disagree with Raila all the time and often find out later they were wrong and wish as Mudavadi does now that they had not.

You, too, will someday, if you haven’t already started regretting for going down this path following your unceremonious sacking.

Mr. Odinga’s obvious encouragement of attacks on his real or perceived opponents signal at all right thinking Kenyans of how intolerant and dictatorial he would be if he were to become president!

False again.

There is no more tolerant and democratic leader in Kenya today than Raila.

Look how long he put up with you.

You may say otherwise until your face turns yellow but that will not change the truth and fact that he is and nearly all Kenyans agree.

I say nearly all Kenyans because there are those like you who for having an ax to grind or ukabila will never see or say anything positive about Raila, even when the positive is unobstructedly in-front of their faces.

It is disappointing that the media tried to caricature the violent attacks on me and presented it as something to laugh at.

One couldn’t actually help but laugh at some of the footage.

The media does not invent scenes, it records them, even when they are staged.

They slanted the news of these two barbaric incidents and falsely projected them as an indication that ‘Kenyans did not like me or my book.’

The poor sales of your book and poor attendance in your so-called book tour speaks for itself as to whether Kenyans like or don’t care about your book.

The media has refused to expose the attacks as orchestrated by Raila Odinga and his goons for cheap political mileage.

It’s a lie that Raila orchestrated the attacks on you therefore there is nothing for the media to expose other than the fact the whole tour thing is a joke or at least not what it was billed to be.

You are understandably frustrated nothing has gone as you had hoped in generating publicity for you in this so-called book tour but this happens a lot in life.

Get used to it and enjoy whatever little time is left in your 15 minutes of fame.

Instead, they have tried to mislead the public into believing that my function in Nakuru was also violently disrupted when the truth is that the three ODM officials who tried to heckle me there were muffled by the more than 2,000 peaceful Kenyans who attended and bought the book.

The Nakuru function is now ancient.

The attention span for some of these things is a few days.

Soon even you will be forgotten.

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

This is an irrelevant question whether your premise if true or false for the reasons stated above.

A cynical and false propaganda that I am being financed by Mr. Odinga’s political opponents and the NSIS is being peddled desperately without any basis whatsoever.

It’s widely believed and there is anecdotal evidence you are a project of Raila opponents and haters.

Concocting stories, hurling abuse at me, threats, intimidation and attacks by hired goons will not deter me!

Soldier on, ABR soldier!

The new Constitution was not meant for Mr. Odinga and his goons alone!

The constitution is for all Kenyans it’s pointless for you to keep harping on this preposterous notion that it’s not or that only Raila enjoys its protections and rights.

Why has Mr. Oding’a goons been able to disrupt my functions in broad day light and have physically assault me without eliciting condemnation from the Kenya Publishers Association, the media, human rights organizations (local and international), human rights defenders and writers’ groups?

Because every indication is this was a staged event.

Why is there a conspiracy of silence?

There is no conspiracy of silence; it’s just that everyone has chosen to ignore you.

The attempt to silence me through humiliation, physical assault, concocted stories in the media and propaganda, are a brutal attack on my constitutional rights and they must not be tolerated.

No one is trying to silence you; go on and do you thing and we are sure you’ll be rewarded accordingly.

I challenge the media, human rights groups and our so-called human rights defenders to stand up and be counted or forever be consigned to spectators in the evolving culture of intolerance.

It does not mean when people reject your antics or ploys they are intolerant in the correct use of that word in political parlance.

Put another way, being tolerant is not the same thing as putting up with nonsense.

I will continue promoting my book and advocating for justice. The campaign against the culture and merchants of impunity will go on! Kenyans are awake!

Again, go on doing whatever you think you’re doing and nobody should stop or interfere with you on that.

As far as the campaign against impunity goes, Raila is leading in that war but what you’re doing cannot be said to be fighting against impunity; you’re actually the very beneficiary of impunity!

I will be in Thika town on Sunday, September 2nd, 2012 from 10am at Lizziki Hall, Thika Arcade, First Floor. I will stop-over at Ruiru and Juja on my way to Thika.

Good luck.

Given your disappointing performance thus far, I'll be surprised if you're given a red-carpet welcome in Thika but milk it for what’s worth.

It’s your right.

[reporter911]

Sept 1, 2012 2:16:04 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Miguna Miguna has issued a press statement titled “Have The Human Rights Ogranizations and Writers’ Groups Been Compromised” which I address to him in response as follows:

Miguna, you have said a number of things in this statement which even though the initial inclination for anyone who follows your unfolding drama from our side of the aisle is to ignore—and wisely so, let me nonetheless address what you have said if anything to once again put things in perspective for those who may have just landed from outer space and read your statement.

For easy following, what you said in your statement is in italics.

Miguna Says

On February 14, 1989, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa (a death edict) against the celebrated British writer Salman Rushdie following the publication of Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses in 1988. The book became a centre of controversy worldwide, resulting in threats on the book, its author and on the author’s supporters. In its wake, some innocent people lost their lives, others suffered serious injuries and property worth millions of dollars was destroyed.

When you are done running around through the day peddling your shameless propaganda and lies, please take a pad and jot down a few things that may reasonably and objectively make your book different from Salman Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses or the author himself.

If you can’t do so or are unwilling to for any number of reasons, let me save you the time and paraphrase a famous line from an American Vice Presidential candidate in 1988 by the name Senator Lloyd Benstein when one hapless Republican VP candidate by the name Dan Quayle who, when he attempted to compare himself to John F Kennedy, the statesman and senior Senator retorted, “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

Well, Miguna, we know who Salman Rushdie is and we know what he wrote that offended radical Muslims like Ayatollah Khomenini to the point of issuing a fatwa against him. You are no Salman Rushdie and neither is what you have written so offensive as to warrant anyone sane to call for your head.

Rather, those who you have smeared, defamed or offended beginning from the main target of your smears and defamation himself all have actually chosen to dismiss you as a madman and may not even pursue a case of defamation against you because they believe you might successfully invoke the defense of insanity in a civil suit where even the Supreme Court would have to agree in affirming such a defense for the first time in history.

BTW, it is now becoming annoyingly boring in your persistent and shameless elevation to comparison to figures way above your scale; last time it was Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Makhan Singh, Achieng’ Oneko and Bildad Kaggia, to which yours truly kindly implored you not to compare yourself to these heroes as such out of respect to them now you have seen it fit to compare yourself to Salman Rushdie.

Please desist from invoking such comparisons for none of them come close to what you have done or are doing.

Miguna Says

But Rushdie didn’t relent. Nor did the world abandon him in his quest to write freely and to exercise his freedom of thought, conscience, speech, expression and association.

True but what has this to do with you and your flopped book?
Miguna Says

Most publishers, writers, journalists, artists, musicians, international human rights organizations, writers’ groups, editors’ guilds, human rights defenders and world leaders were rightly united in their condemnation of the intolerance, the threats, the intimidations and violence against Rushdie, his works and against his freedom of thought and expression.

Again, true but what has this to do with you and your flopped book?

Miguna Says

On Saturday, July 14, 2012, I launched my political memoirs, Peeling Back the Mask: A Quest For Justice In Kenya at the Intercontinental Hotel in Nairobi. The book is about my life, my political growth, the crystallization of my beliefs, ideology and philosophy and my experiences working as the senior adviser for coalition, constitutional and legal affairs for the Prime Minister of Kenya as well as being the joint secretary to the Permanent Committee on the Management of the Grand Coalition affairs.

The first part of your book maybe about your life and your political and ideological growth but the rest of it is nothing but made up stuff, regurgitations of bar-room rumors, embellishment of facts and in some cases outright lies that add no value to any serious political discourse.

Miguna Says

Peeling Back The Mask traces my struggle against adversities and privations; the collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism; the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya; and exposes the pervasive culture of impunity, corruption, nepotism and abuse of public office within the grand coalition government.

News flash: your “struggle against adversities and privations” is not unique to you and neither is the “collective struggle and resistance of Kenyans against totalitarianism” or “the struggle for a new constitutional and democratic dispensation in Kenya” something only you can speak to; in fact, millions of others who continued with the struggles after you safely exited the country to this day can and have so we fail to note why you think your contribution in this part of our history is something to write home about.

Miguna Says

However, rather than engage in reasoned debates on the issues addressed in my book, detractors and politicians who have built their careers on lies, hypocrisy and myths have resolved to violently attack me and the book.

You may have been too busy penning your “memoir” while working for the PM you failed to notice there has been and continues to be rigorous debate among Kenyans about the future of our country to this day, including debate on the very issues you claim you have raised in your book.

In other words, Kenyans did not need your book to start debate these issues which are well known to all those who care to follow even remotely the goings on in our country and that debate will culminate in the next general elections when we all go to the polls to choose our leaders for the next five years, if not longer.

Miguna Says

They have organized, sponsored and hired goons to disrupt my book tour events in Kisumu and Mombasa; events they were not invited to.

There is no evidence that anyone has done so but credible sourcing indicates if anything, you or your handlers are the ones who organized and staged the Mombasa scene where you lost your shoe and cap.

Miguna Says

On Sunday August 25th, 2012, a group of hired hooligans forced their way into the Castle Royal Hotel in Mombasa and violently attacked me, disrupted my function, destroyed property and stole five books. They were openly and loudly chanting the name of the Prime Minister, Raila Amolo Odinga, and taunting and threatening to lynch me for not supporting him.

Again, credible sourcing and even a lay examination of the footage from the event confirms this was a staged event intended to do desperately link Raila and ODM with your travails but all to no avail.

Miguna Says

Two days before that – on Thursday August 23, 2012 – a group of hired goons, chanting the name of the Prime Minister, disrupted my book promotion event in Kisumu. Like in Mombasa, the paid thugs physically assaulted me while chanting the name of Raila Amolo Odinga and threatening to lynch me if I did not stop promoting my book.

All reporting even from your die-hard supporters indicate the Kisumu event was very orderly and peaceful until you started insulting your audience upon which tempers flared and a few attendees wanted to land a few fists in your lips to shut you up.

There is no evidence any of this was organized by anyone but that is not to say anyone should condone resorting to fists or other forms of violence to express displeasure with your defamatory, reckless and insulting comments about Raila and Luos. You should be allowed to do whatever you are doing and be answerable only in the court of public opinion for those who find it offensive or in law courts for those who find it defamatory.

Miguna Says

They claimed that I was the only one trying to prevent Mr. Odinga from becoming president in the forthcoming general elections.

This assertion is patently false because you’re not the only one trying to prevent Raila from becoming president in the next general elections.

You’re just saying it to make yourself that important when you’re obviously not.

Miguna Says

Mr. Odinga will never ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence. He can only do so by persuading Kenyans to vote for him based on his record, policies and intentions, all of which have been exposed as frauds!

It’s true Raila will not ascend to the presidency through intimidation, threats or violence; he will do so on account of his leadership ability and successfully making the case he is the best qualified to be our next president among all those vying.

You assert that all of Raila’s record, policies and intentions have been exposed as “frauds.” Now, you claim to be more intelligent and smart than everyone else; can you re-read what you are saying here and see for yourself why it doesn’t make any sense or, put more politely, why it’s another lie of yours?

If that’s too much to ask, let me make it easier for you:

Raila spent nearly a decade in detention for his quest for reforms in the country; what was fraudulent about that heroic experience and sacrifice?

Raila successfully led in defeating passage of the watered down draft constitution Kibaki and co wanted to shove down our throats in 2005; what is fraudulent about that exemplary leadership?

Rather than demanding and insisting that he be sworn as president or that we have new elections after Kibaki lost but was sworn as president in 2007, Raila agreed to form a coalition government with the man who stole the elections; what is fraudulent about that statesman-like resolve?

When Kibaki attempted to yet again shove down our throats something we did not want this time in the illegal attempt to appoint his cronies to important constitutional offices, Raila stopped him dead on his tracks; what is fraudulent about that noble effort?

Should I go on to show you how your assertion that “all of Raila’s record, policies and intentions” have been exposed as “frauds” is full of you know what?

Your hyperbole and lies will in the end be the undoing of yourself besides yourself.

Miguna Says

The attacks were barbaric assaults on my fundamental freedom of thought, conscience, expression, association and movement.

I agree with you that it’s barbaric to assault or attack anyone for expressing themselves or associating with others but, as noted above, there is credible information and evidence the Mombasa scene was staged so you may want to try some other line of drawing sympathy than this one.

Miguna Says

But even more chilling is that fact that the police watched helplessly as I was being attacked and took no steps to protect me, to prevent the physical assaults on me, and are yet to arrest and charge the goons who were captured by media cameras (and videos) committing these serious crimes. Why is Keriako Tobiko, the Director of Public Prosecutions, suddenly gone quiet? Where is Mzalendo Kibunjia, the chair of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission?

None of this is necessary in a staged event—successful or not.

Miguna Says

To date, Raila Odinga has not condemned these primitive attacks on me; attacks that were perpetrated in his name.

Raila need not condemn your specific incident whether staged or not because he is on record as having said neither he nor ODM condones any acts of violence in political discourse and that applies in your case.

I am sure you’ll be thrilled to no end but still continue in the course you’re on were Raila to come out and specifically condemn what happened in your case but if I were him I would not do so because it’s meaningless to do so and getting you thrilled or mollifying his enemies is the last thing I would want to do besides not making it any more meaningful or useful.

Miguna Says

His silence implies that he condones these barbaric attacks.

No it does not; it merely means it’s not worth it for the reasons stated above.

Miguna Says

A purported statement condemning the attacks that was released by the ODM Secretary General, Prof. Anyang’ Nyong’o, was promptly contradicted by another one released by the Raila Odinga Presidential Campaign Secretariat. Both statements attempted to blame me, the victim, for the violent attacks on me.

The statements speak for themselves and you’re the only one whining about them because the truths in them sting.

Miguna Says

Coming from the Prime Minister and so-called ‘leading presidential candidate,’ the message Mr. Odinga is sending through his campaign secretariat and Orange House is that no one has the right to disagree with him; that he is above the law.

False.

People disagree with Raila all the time and often find out later they were wrong and wish as Mudavadi does now that they had not.

You, too, will someday, if you haven’t already started regretting for going down this path following your unceremonious sacking.

Miguna Says

Mr. Odinga’s obvious encouragement of attacks on his real or perceived opponents signal at all right thinking Kenyans of how intolerant and dictatorial he would be if he were to become president!

False again.

There is no more tolerant and democratic leader in Kenya today than Raila.

Look how long he put up with you.

You may say otherwise until your face turns yellow but that will not change the truth and fact that he is and nearly all Kenyans agree.

I say nearly all Kenyans because there are those like you who for having an ax to grind or ukabila will never see or say anything positive about Raila, even when the positive is unobstructedly in-front of their faces.

Miguna Says

It is disappointing that the media tried to caricature the violent attacks on me and presented it as something to laugh at.

One couldn’t actually help but laugh at some of the footage.

The media does not invent scenes, it records them, even when they are staged.[/size]

Miguna Says

They slanted the news of these two barbaric incidents and falsely projected them as an indication that ‘Kenyans did not like me or my book.’

The poor sales of your book and poor attendance in your so-called book tour speaks for itself as to whether Kenyans like or don’t care about your book.

Miguna Says

The media has refused to expose the attacks as orchestrated by Raila Odinga and his goons for cheap political mileage.

It’s a lie that Raila orchestrated the attacks on you therefore there is nothing for the media to expose other than the fact the whole tour thing is a joke or at least not what it was billed to be.

You are understandably frustrated nothing has gone as you had hoped in generating publicity for you in this so-called book tour but this happens a lot in life.

Get used to it and enjoy whatever little time is left in your 15 minutes of fame.

Miguna Says

Instead, they have tried to mislead the public into believing that my function in Nakuru was also violently disrupted when the truth is that the three ODM officials who tried to heckle me there were muffled by the more than 2,000 peaceful Kenyans who attended and bought the book.

The Nakuru function is now ancient.

The attention span for some of these things is a few days.

Soon even you will be forgotten.

Miguna says

The successful events in Kericho (August 22nd in the afternoon), Karatina (August 27th), and in Nyeri (August 27th) and Murang’a (August 28th) towns were either completely ignored by the media or the images of the tens of thousands of people that welcomed me in these places were suppressed and censored. Why?

This is an irrelevant question whether your premise if true or false for the reasons stated above.

Miguna Says

A cynical and false propaganda that I am being financed by Mr. Odinga’s political opponents and the NSIS is being peddled desperately without any basis whatsoever.

It’s widely believed and there is anecdotal evidence you are a project of Raila opponents and haters.

Miguna Says

Concocting stories, hurling abuse at me, threats, intimidation and attacks by hired goons will not deter me!

Soldier on, ABR soldier!

Miguna says

The new Constitution was not meant for Mr. Odinga and his goons alone!

The constitution is for all Kenyans it’s pointless for you to keep harping on this preposterous notion that it’s not or that only Raila enjoys its protections and rights.

Miguna Says

Why has Mr. Oding’a goons been able to disrupt my functions in broad day light and have physically assault me without eliciting condemnation from the Kenya Publishers Association, the media, human rights organizations (local and international), human rights defenders and writers’ groups?

Because every indication is this was a staged event.

Miguna Says

Why is there a conspiracy of silence?

There is no conspiracy of silence; it’s just that everyone has chosen to ignore you.

Miguna Says

The attempt to silence me through humiliation, physical assault, concocted stories in the media and propaganda, are a brutal attack on my constitutional rights and they must not be tolerated.

No one is trying to silence you; go on and do you thing and we are sure you’ll be rewarded accordingly.

Miguna Says

I challenge the media, human rights groups and our so-called human rights defenders to stand up and be counted or forever be consigned to spectators in the evolving culture of intolerance.

It does not mean when people reject your antics or ploys they are intolerant in the correct use of that word in political parlance.

Put another way, being tolerant is not the same thing as putting up with nonsense.

Miguna says

I will continue promoting my book and advocating for justice. The campaign against the culture and merchants of impunity will go on! Kenyans are awake!

Again, go on doing whatever you think you’re doing and nobody should stop or interfere with you on that.

As far as the campaign against impunity goes, Raila is leading in that war but what you’re doing cannot be said to be fighting against impunity; you’re actually the very beneficiary of impunity!

Miguna Says

I will be in Thika town on Sunday, September 2nd, 2012 from 10am at Lizziki Hall, Thika Arcade, First Floor. I will stop-over at Ruiru and Juja on my way to Thika.

Good luck.

Given your disappointing performance thus far, I'll be surprised if you're given a red-carpet welcome in Thika but milk it for what’s worth.

It’s your right.

Omwenga Well said.. couldn't resist high lighting your points...and what Miguna said

[furaha]

All,

If we are going to continue with well over half of all postings here focused on all things Miguna, I have a suggestion to make.

First of all, it is every member's right to write as much about Miguna as s/he likes. So do not misunderstand me, please...

I have not contributed much on the Miguna threads. I think there are other issues that demand equal, if not more attention. For a listing of some very critical ones see here www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1492072/-/item/1/-/gcys7a/-/index.html

While those wanting to continue to write about MM are free to do so, you could make your contributions more interesting for the rest of us if you include specific references to various parts of the Mask that you have issues with, that you like, reject or want to counter with facts. So start naming chapter and verse, please. Very little of that has been done thus far. In fact, I have mostly read rather general observations and I don't think I am the only one who is getting tired of these. Over the past 24 hours the traffic to Jukwaa has dropped below 1350.

Furaha

[destiny]

Some of my fellow wana Jukwaa just keep amazing me. If you hate Miguna so much and can't stand another thread about him why not simply ignore it and engage yourself in a trillion other threads freely available on this forum?

I condemn the "mouths for hire" who violently disrupted MM's book launch in MSA and KSM, some even physically assaulted him. His crime? Daring to stand up against Raila while enjoying his constitutional rights. And since many were caught on tape, why haven't they been rounded up and prosecuted?

God forbid if Agwambo was to be elected the president and one publicly disagreed with him- they would face lynching from his militant and violent supporters many who were born around the time he was trying to overthrow the government in a violent coup that left hundreds dead and the whole nation paralysed.

His coded silence on this matter in public rallies speak volumes. How many of these violent goons (mouths for hire) can read those silly press releases that blame the victim and not the hired criminals like the one called 'Destroyer' and his half baked morals? I seriously doubt Miguna- the spoiler- would face all the wrath if he was not from the Luo community.

[Omwenga]

Sept 1, 2012 4:46:13 GMT 3 @reporter911 said:

Sept 1, 2012 2:16:04 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Omwenga Well said.. couldn't resist high lighting your points...and what Miguna said

Thanks Reporter911; you've done a great job on this yourself ;D

[Omwenga]

Sept 1, 2012 12:33:57 GMT 3 destiny said:

Some of my fellow wana Jukwaa just keep amazing me. If you hate Miguna so much and can't stand another thread about him why not simply ignore it and engage yourself in a trillion other threads freely available on this forum?

Good question and I am with you on that.

I condemn the "mouths for hire" who violently disrupted MM's book launch in MSA and KSM, some even physically assaulted him.

I, too, would join you in condemning those who would physically attack Miguna or try to disrupt his so called book tour (its more appropriate to call it a Raila bashing tour) but there is anecdotal and sourced information to support the proposition the Mombasa incident was staged therefore its of no use to condemn it but those who staged it should be condemned instead.

His crime? Daring to stand up against Raila while enjoying his constitutional rights.

This is a fallacious assertion on many fronts: First, what Miguna is doing is not "standing up against Raila" unless you don't know what that expression means or how it's applied.

Had Miguna resigned in protest against the things he now claims involving Raila and corruption before being shown the door as he was, he would then rightly be said to have stood up against Raila.

He didn't and only started making these outlandish claims after he was shown the door in a raged effort to exact revenge and that's that can never be said to be standing up against anyone or anything; it's simply being vindictive and nothing more.

And since many were caught on tape, why haven't they been rounded up and prosecuted?

This will be consistent with a staged event with elements of the police being accomplices as well.

God forbid if Agwambo was to be elected the president and one publicly disagreed with him- they would face lynching from his militant and violent supporters many who were born around the time he was trying to overthrow the government in a violent coup that left hundreds dead and the whole nation paralysed.

This is a slippery slope argument that can only play well with people who are stupid, can't reason or simply hate Raila so much they'll believe anything.

Common sense will tell any reasonable person with ability to reason there is no nexus between the two propositions.

Many people have "publicly disagreed" with Raila and many notable politicians have even "publicly" severed relationships with him over his political career and Raila has merely wished them well as he has gone on to outmaneuver them.

That's what great and successful politicians and leaders like Raila do, not the barbaric and uncouth things you describe in your slippery slope argument.

BTW, your bringing in the 82 coup attempt in your slippery slope argument is lame and betrays your true motives in making these fallacious arguments: you hate or can't stand Raila for who knows what reasons--they certainly can't be policy related going by your arguments.

His coded silence on this matter in public rallies speak volumes.

What is "coded" silence and how is that different from normal silence?

It's of course another fallacious argument to say that Raila having chosen to ignore the person he calls a madman somehow "speaks volumes" more than what it actually means, namely, Raila is ignoring someone he believes is now a madman and, besides, he is on record as having said neither he nor ODM condones violence of any kind in political discourse, a position both SG Anyang Nyongo and the Raila Campaign reiterated just a few days ago.

How many of these violent goons (mouths for hire) can read those silly press releases that blame the victim and not the hired criminals like the one called 'Destroyer' and his half baked morals?

If Miguna is a victim, he is a victim of his own actions.

I seriously doubt Miguna- the spoiler- would face all the wrath if he was not from the Luo community.

No one from any other community; in fact, no one, period, would be as reckless in defying logic and common sense to do and say the things Miguna is doing and saying.

As I have been saying, however, Raila could not have been more fortunate to have Miguna as the former aide who penned a vindictive book about him.

Someone more skilled, tactical and composed would have devastatingly impacted Raila's presidential fortunes, even as they equally lied, distorted and defamed.

Instead, we have someone in Miguna who's shooting himself on the foot left and right and can't even point the gun in the direction of his target even though he apparently believes he has.

Well, he has but has shot blanks leaving the target intact.

[b6k]

Sept 1, 2012 5:31:58 GMT 3 furaha said:

All,

If we are going to continue with well over half of all postings here focused on all things Miguna, I have a suggestion to make.

First of all, it is every member's right to write as much about Miguna as s/he likes. So do not misunderstand me, please...

I have not contributed much on the Miguna threads. I think there are other issues that demand equal, if not more attention. For a listing of some very critical ones see here www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1492072/-/item/1/-/gcys7a/-/index.html

While those wanting to continue to write about MM are free to do so, you could make your contributions more interesting for the rest of us if you include specific references to various parts of the Mask that you have issues with, that you like, reject or want to counter with facts. So start naming chapter and verse, please. Very little of that has been done thus far. In fact, I have mostly read rather general observations and I don't think I am the only one who is getting tired of these. Over the past 24 hours the traffic to Jukwaa has dropped below 1350.

Furaha

Furaha, I take it you visit Jukwaa because it's the in thing to do, eh? Monitoring hits. Sorry it seems the "Neanderthals" have taken over as the "genuine" Jukwaasits have fled to the hills. No more kumbayas for the Dear Leader here, I'm afraid. He has been put through the microscope, run through the cauldron, until it is determined whether he is fit to be the 4th president of this republic. Having the core element of his choir voluntarily leave Jukwaa is a price worth paying if we can get to the bottom of that task. If it means having a thousand Miguna threads, so mote it be....

[b6k]

Sept 1, 2012 12:33:57 GMT 3 destiny said:

Some of my fellow wana Jukwaa just keep amazing me. If you hate Miguna so much and can't stand another thread about him why not simply ignore it and engage yourself in a trillion other threads freely available on this forum?

I condemn the "mouths for hire" who violently disrupted MM's book launch in MSA and KSM, some even physically assaulted him. His crime? Daring to stand up against Raila while enjoying his constitutional rights. And since many were caught on tape, why haven't they been rounded up and prosecuted?

God forbid if Agwambo was to be elected the president and one publicly disagreed with him- they would face lynching from his militant and violent supporters many who were born around the time he was trying to overthrow the government in a violent coup that left hundreds dead and the whole nation paralysed.

His coded silence on this matter in public rallies speak volumes. How many of these violent goons (mouths for hire) can read those silly press releases that blame the victim and not the hired criminals like the one called 'Destroyer' and his half baked morals? I seriously doubt Miguna- the spoiler- would face all the wrath if he was not from the Luo community.

Amen to that

[reporter911]

Sept 1, 2012 12:33:57 GMT 3 destiny said:

Some of my fellow wana Jukwaa just keep amazing me. If you hate Miguna so much and can't stand another thread about him why not simply ignore it and engage yourself in a trillion other threads freely available on this forum?

I condemn the "mouths for hire" who violently disrupted MM's book launch in MSA and KSM, some even physically assaulted him. His crime? Daring to stand up against Raila while enjoying his constitutional rights. And since many were caught on tape, why haven't they been rounded up and prosecuted?

God forbid if Agwambo was to be elected the president and one publicly disagreed with him- they would face lynching from his militant and violent supporters many who were born around the time he was trying to overthrow the government in a violent coup that left hundreds dead and the whole nation paralysed.

His coded silence on this matter in public rallies speak volumes. How many of these violent goons (mouths for hire) can read those silly press releases that blame the victim and not the hired criminals like the one called 'Destroyer' and his half baked morals? I seriously doubt Miguna- the spoiler- would face all the wrath if he was not from the Luo community.

Your hate for Raila is flowing from your pores like a river and your love for Miguna is shining from your heart like a brilliant Star.. amazing

[mugabe]

Sept 1, 2012 14:51:02 GMT 3 b6k said:

Sept 1, 2012 5:31:58 GMT 3 furaha said:

All,

If we are going to continue with well over half of all postings here focused on all things Miguna, I have a suggestion to make.

First of all, it is every member's right to write as much about Miguna as s/he likes. So do not misunderstand me, please...

I have not contributed much on the Miguna threads. I think there are other issues that demand equal, if not more attention. For a listing of some very critical ones see here www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1492072/-/item/1/-/gcys7a/-/index.html

While those wanting to continue to write about MM are free to do so, you could make your contributions more interesting for the rest of us if you include specific references to various parts of the Mask that you have issues with, that you like, reject or want to counter with facts. So start naming chapter and verse, please. Very little of that has been done thus far. In fact, I have mostly read rather general observations and I don't think I am the only one who is getting tired of these. Over the past 24 hours the traffic to Jukwaa has dropped below 1350.

Furaha

Furaha, I take it you visit Jukwaa because it's the in thing to do, eh? Monitoring hits. Sorry it seems the "Neanderthals" have taken over as the "genuine" Jukwaasits have fled to the hills. No more kumbayas for the Dear Leader here, I'm afraid. He has been put through the microscope, run through the cauldron, until it is determined whether he is fit to be the 4th president of this republic. Having the core element of his choir voluntarily leave Jukwaa is a price worth paying if we can get to the bottom of that task. If it means having a thousand Miguna threads, so mote it be....

Are you a supporter of Mudavadi? Your metamorphosis from ODM leading to TNA supporter (masquerading as an independent) is there for all to see. It is one thing to be disillusioned with ODM but as I remember you used to claim that you were shopping for a genuine third force, what happened? Did Mudavadi convince you?

[mugabe]

Sept 1, 2012 15:09:34 GMT 3 @reporter911 said:

Sept 1, 2012 12:33:57 GMT 3 destiny said:

Some of my fellow wana Jukwaa just keep amazing me. If you hate Miguna so much and can't stand another thread about him why not simply ignore it and engage yourself in a trillion other threads freely available on this forum?

I condemn the "mouths for hire" who violently disrupted MM's book launch in MSA and KSM, some even physically assaulted him. His crime? Daring to stand up against Raila while enjoying his constitutional rights. And since many were caught on tape, why haven't they been rounded up and prosecuted?

God forbid if Agwambo was to be elected the president and one publicly disagreed with him- they would face lynching from his militant and violent supporters many who were born around the time he was trying to overthrow the government in a violent coup that left hundreds dead and the whole nation paralysed.

His coded silence on this matter in public rallies speak volumes. How many of these violent goons (mouths for hire) can read those silly press releases that blame the victim and not the hired criminals like the one called 'Destroyer' and his half baked morals? I seriously doubt Miguna- the spoiler- would face all the wrath if he was not from the Luo community.

Your hate for Raila is flowing from your pores like a river and your love for Miguna is shining from your heart like a brilliant Star.. amazing

Agreed. The obsession with 'Raira' is sickening. Fine you do not want people to vote for him that means I vote for Uhuru. What difference will a Uhuru presidency make. If a 'Raira' presidency will be about no freedom of expression how does the presidency of your hero Uhuru differ?

[Luol Deng]

Does Miguna seriously think that the NGOs, etc would dignify his overall buffoonery with any well reasoned response? Seems like his 'book popularisation' is not gaining the traction he intended it to and therefore he has resorted to coercing different groups to join his side.

[gateway]

Miguna Yawa! Imanyo Dho Baba Thru All Avenues. Baba Ne Osewacho Ni Janeko Ringo Gi Lepe. Lawo Janeko Oneno Ka Tekne. Jamaneni! ;D

(Miguna, you are looking for Baba's mouth thru all avenues. Baba had said a mad man is running away with his clothes. He finds chasing a madman a hard thing to do. Jamaneni).

[jakaswanga]

Aug 31, 2012 22:02:31 GMT 3 Onyango Oloo said:

[youtube]

I will faithfully, that is letter for letter, transcribe about 4 minutes of this conversation. There is popular talk of Miguna as a mad man, so due diligence has forced me to listen to his 'talks' to define his coherence, flow of thought, that I compare to what I think a mad man would sound like. Below is the mad Jaluos MM talking. I am revisiting known definitions of madness!

RADIOMAN Question: ... What was the point for you when you said enough is enough:

MIGUNA-ANSWER: I think that after the constitutional review process, when Raila abandoned the the 3-tier parliamentary devolution structure, I decided Raila Odinga had gone too far. He was irredeemable. I thought in all these other things he could come back, but the moment he told me that all he needed was the imperial presidency, ... that he needed undiluted power of the presidency, yet publicly he was telling people, that he needed power to be dispersed, and all along he said he stood for a democratic country, governed by the rule of the law and the constitution, where the citizens held their leaders to account, I realised the man was gone. He was too greedy for power, and he was too greedy for money. I realised the man was gone. And the moment I realised that Isahakia was being cited severally, including through court cases, judgments of corrupt deals, and he was still keeping this man as his permanent secretary. Karoli's story is as long as the river Nile, and that is his chief of staff. I realised No, he can not be an agent of change, and I discussed this with Salim [Lone].

At one point when Salim wanted to leave, and I had not reached this point, and I went to Raila to plead his case --Salim had told me no, am leaving, am tired... and when I told Raila Salim wanted to leave, he laughed it off, saying: Salim had been saying that for the past one year, he will not leave. So Raila believes that he is god, he is a demi god, you can not leave him.

I also saw that when he called me for a meeting, and wanted me to go back to his office, he wanted me to go and meet him at the office, and I told him no, we can only meet in a neutral place, and I chose Serena, I saw, when he heard this, I saw his body language he couldn't believe it

RADIOMAN INTERJECTS [nobody had ever said no to him]

MIGUNA: ... because nobody had ever said No to him. And he believed he had reduced me to my knees because he had illegally withheld my pay, and by the way he is still holding my pay, he illegally withheld and locked up my personal items, he is still doing so. He did that to reduce me to my knees. He knew I had come back to Kenya from Canada where I had practiced law for a while, and he knew i had not established myself back in Kenya, and he knew how corrupt Kenya was, and how fighting for him had alienated me from some people who could probably give me cases and things like that, so he thought it was just a matter of time before Miguna crawls back. But I told him No to his face, Miguna never crawls back.

RADIOMAN---that is very apparent---- Another question which....
==============================
Now, students, in my best days as a political operator, when my opponent could talk like that, I would never go around calling him mad. It would be an insult to my own capacities to perceive reality. You learn reality checks, in the teaching profession.

Now, students , any volunteers for the next 5 minutes transcription verbatim??? ;D

Aug 31, 2012 16:20:57 GMT 3 abdulmote said:

This interview was a lot better. At least one could bear listening to him. 75% I would give him on performance! Pretty good improvement according to his standards seen so far.

A little bit of 'arrogance' is still visible. More effort is required on that end. Meeguna needs to tone down even further. Avoid 'grandising' the 'I'. It destroys any potential connection with the listeners who could have sympathised with him! Meeguna needs to make himself more identifiable and in syncwith his listeners, who can be supporters already committed to the various political/ethnical following or ideology, if you may call it.

Meeguna needs to make himself 'approachable' and 'touchable' to his listners. His aggressive demeanour has been the biggest 'put-off', which must be scary to many. Belittling all others whom he perceives as 'non-educated', certainly 'dis-endears' himself from his listeners. He needs to bring himself down from his ivory tower; Yes, you may be right in your statements against corruption and we certainly do like such views and commitment. But you scare the hell out of me when I witness your arrogance and how you choose to go about things!

What sort of a leader can Meeguna represent in himself? Arrogant, aggressive and an irrational bully? Or can he be someone who represents honesty, integrity, efficiency, tolerance, rationality, collectiveness, wisdom and 'good' leadership? Can he fit such necessary description of a people's leader? I say NO. At least not just yet.

You see, Meeguna raises some very valid points; Take for example the level of corruption thriving in the PM's office; nepotism, taribalism, dictatorial tendencies and what have you. Thes are allegations which do exist and are true to some extent! Are these the qualities of a leader we desire for our good nation? I would certainly say NO to that as well.

But what are the options suitable for the people to pursue henceforth? And what about those other guys? The PNU, G7, TNA, GDU, FSX, TFG, etc, etc. What about them? Yes, you mentioned here and there about them, but you certainly did not pursue them with equal vigour as you have on Raeella. Is that being balanced? And if not, why and why notor how are we supposed to fill in the blanks?

I know…you "don't want anyone to "love you" or to tell you anything becuase you are "not a conman" and perhaps even 'mighty'. But if you truly want to be seen to be a people's champion, it is inevitable that you must submit yourself to the 'will of the peopl'e!

[gateway]

Sept 2, 2012 1:35:45 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Aug 31, 2012 22:02:31 GMT 3 Onyango Oloo said:

[youtube]

I will faithfully, that is letter for letter, transcribe about 4 minutes of this conversation. There is popular talk of Miguna as a mad man, so due diligence has forced me to listen to his 'talks' to define his coherence, flow of thought, that I compare to what I think a mad man would sound like. Below is the mad Jaluos MM talking. I am revisiting known definitions of madness!

RADIOMAN Question: ... What was the point for you when you said enough is enough:

MIGUNA-ANSWER: I think that after the constitutional review process, when Raila abandoned the the 3-tier parliamentary devolution structure, I decided Raila Odinga had gone too far. He was irredeemable. I thought in all these other things he could come back, but the moment he told me that all he needed was the imperial presidency, ... that he needed undiluted power of the presidency, yet publicly he was telling people, that he needed power to be dispersed, and all along he said he stood for a democratic country, governed by the rule of the law and the constitution, where the citizens held their leaders to account, I realised the man was gone. He was too greedy for power, and he was too greedy for money. I realised the man was gone. And the moment I realised that Isahakia was being cited severally, including through court cases, judgments of corrupt deals, and he was still keeping this man as his permanent secretary. Karoli's story is as long as the river Nile, and that is his chief of staff. I realised No, he can not be an agent of change, and I discussed this with Salim [Lone].

At one point when Salim wanted to leave, and I had not reached this point, and I went to Raila to plead his case --Salim had told me no, am leaving, am tired... and when I told Raila Salim wanted to leave, he laughed it off, saying: Salim had been saying that for the past one year, he will not leave. So Raila believes that he is god, he is a demi god, you can not leave him.

I also saw that when he called me for a meeting, and wanted me to go back to his office, he wanted me to go and meet him at the office, and I told him no, we can only meet in a neutral place, and I chose Serena, I saw, when he heard this, I saw his body language he couldn't believe it

RADIOMAN INTERJECTS [nobody had ever said no to him]

MIGUNA: ... because nobody had ever said No to him. And he believed he had reduced me to my knees because he had illegally withheld my pay, and by the way he is still holding my pay, he illegally withheld and locked up my personal items, he is still doing so. He did that to reduce me to my knees. He knew I had come back to Kenya from Canada where I had practiced law for a while, and he knew i had not established myself back in Kenya, and he knew how corrupt Kenya was, and how fighting for him had alienated me from some people who could probably give me cases and things like that, so he thought it was just a matter of time before Miguna crawls back. But I told him No to his face, Miguna never crawls back.

RADIOMAN---that is very apparent---- Another question which....
==============================
Now, students, in my best days as a political operator, when my opponent could talk like that, I would never go around calling him mad. It would be an insult to my own capacities to perceive reality. You learn reality checks, in the teaching profession.

Now, students , any volunteers for the next 5 minutes transcription verbatim??? ;D

Aug 31, 2012 16:20:57 GMT 3 abdulmote said:

This interview was a lot better. At least one could bear listening to him. 75% I would give him on performance! Pretty good improvement according to his standards seen so far.

A little bit of 'arrogance' is still visible. More effort is required on that end. Meeguna needs to tone down even further. Avoid 'grandising' the 'I'. It destroys any potential connection with the listeners who could have sympathised with him! Meeguna needs to make himself more identifiable and in syncwith his listeners, who can be supporters already committed to the various political/ethnical following or ideology, if you may call it.

Meeguna needs to make himself 'approachable' and 'touchable' to his listners. His aggressive demeanour has been the biggest 'put-off', which must be scary to many. Belittling all others whom he perceives as 'non-educated', certainly 'dis-endears' himself from his listeners. He needs to bring himself down from his ivory tower; Yes, you may be right in your statements against corruption and we certainly do like such views and commitment. But you scare the hell out of me when I witness your arrogance and how you choose to go about things!

What sort of a leader can Meeguna represent in himself? Arrogant, aggressive and an irrational bully? Or can he be someone who represents honesty, integrity, efficiency, tolerance, rationality, collectiveness, wisdom and 'good' leadership? Can he fit such necessary description of a people's leader? I say NO. At least not just yet.

You see, Meeguna raises some very valid points; Take for example the level of corruption thriving in the PM's office; nepotism, taribalism, dictatorial tendencies and what have you. Thes are allegations which do exist and are true to some extent! Are these the qualities of a leader we desire for our good nation? I would certainly say NO to that as well.

But what are the options suitable for the people to pursue henceforth? And what about those other guys? The PNU, G7, TNA, GDU, FSX, TFG, etc, etc. What about them? Yes, you mentioned here and there about them, but you certainly did not pursue them with equal vigour as you have on Raeella. Is that being balanced? And if not, why and why notor how are we supposed to fill in the blanks?

I know…you "don't want anyone to "love you" or to tell you anything becuase you are "not a conman" and perhaps even 'mighty'. But if you truly want to be seen to be a people's champion, it is inevitable that you must submit yourself to the 'will of the peopl'e!

Miguna has improved. I see less Anger in him and he smiles. That's how I speak the truth. Now if he is like that then I can help him "attack" Raila's record.

[reporter911]

Sept 2, 2012 1:35:45 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Aug 31, 2012 22:02:31 GMT 3 Onyango Oloo said:

[youtube]

I will faithfully, that is letter for letter, transcribe about 4 minutes of this conversation. There is popular talk of Miguna as a mad man, so due diligence has forced me to listen to his 'talks' to define his coherence, flow of thought, that I compare to what I think a mad man would sound like. Below is the mad Jaluos MM talking. I am revisiting known definitions of madness!

RADIOMAN Question: ... What was the point for you when you said enough is enough:

MIGUNA-ANSWER: I think that after the constitutional review process, when Raila abandoned the the 3-tier parliamentary devolution structure, I decided Raila Odinga had gone too far. He was irredeemable. I thought in all these other things he could come back, but the moment he told me that all he needed was the imperial presidency, ... that he needed undiluted power of the presidency, yet publicly he was telling people, that he needed power to be dispersed, and all along he said he stood for a democratic country, governed by the rule of the law and the constitution, where the citizens held their leaders to account, I realised the man was gone. He was too greedy for power, and he was too greedy for money. I realised the man was gone. And the moment I realised that Isahakia was being cited severally, including through court cases, judgments of corrupt deals, and he was still keeping this man as his permanent secretary. Karoli's story is as long as the river Nile, and that is his chief of staff. I realised No, he can not be an agent of change, and I discussed this with Salim [Lone].

At one point when Salim wanted to leave, and I had not reached this point, and I went to Raila to plead his case --Salim had told me no, am leaving, am tired... and when I told Raila Salim wanted to leave, he laughed it off, saying: Salim had been saying that for the past one year, he will not leave. So Raila believes that he is god, he is a demi god, you can not leave him.

I also saw that when he called me for a meeting, and wanted me to go back to his office, he wanted me to go and meet him at the office, and I told him no, we can only meet in a neutral place, and I chose Serena, I saw, when he heard this, I saw his body language he couldn't believe it

RADIOMAN INTERJECTS [nobody had ever said no to him]

MIGUNA: ... because nobody had ever said No to him. And he believed he had reduced me to my knees because he had illegally withheld my pay, and by the way he is still holding my pay, he illegally withheld and locked up my personal items, he is still doing so. He did that to reduce me to my knees. He knew I had come back to Kenya from Canada where I had practiced law for a while, and he knew i had not established myself back in Kenya, and he knew how corrupt Kenya was, and how fighting for him had alienated me from some people who could probably give me cases and things like that, so he thought it was just a matter of time before Miguna crawls back. But I told him No to his face, Miguna never crawls back.

RADIOMAN---that is very apparent---- Another question which....
==============================
Now, students, in my best days as a political operator, when my opponent could talk like that, I would never go around calling him mad. It would be an insult to my own capacities to perceive reality. You learn reality checks, in the teaching profession.

Now, students , any volunteers for the next 5 minutes transcription verbatim??? ;D

Aug 31, 2012 16:20:57 GMT 3 abdulmote said:

This interview was a lot better. At least one could bear listening to him. 75% I would give him on performance! Pretty good improvement according to his standards seen so far.

A little bit of 'arrogance' is still visible. More effort is required on that end. Meeguna needs to tone down even further. Avoid 'grandising' the 'I'. It destroys any potential connection with the listeners who could have sympathised with him! Meeguna needs to make himself more identifiable and in syncwith his listeners, who can be supporters already committed to the various political/ethnical following or ideology, if you may call it.

Meeguna needs to make himself 'approachable' and 'touchable' to his listners. His aggressive demeanour has been the biggest 'put-off', which must be scary to many. Belittling all others whom he perceives as 'non-educated', certainly 'dis-endears' himself from his listeners. He needs to bring himself down from his ivory tower; Yes, you may be right in your statements against corruption and we certainly do like such views and commitment. But you scare the hell out of me when I witness your arrogance and how you choose to go about things!

What sort of a leader can Meeguna represent in himself? Arrogant, aggressive and an irrational bully? Or can he be someone who represents honesty, integrity, efficiency, tolerance, rationality, collectiveness, wisdom and 'good' leadership? Can he fit such necessary description of a people's leader? I say NO. At least not just yet.

You see, Meeguna raises some very valid points; Take for example the level of corruption thriving in the PM's office; nepotism, taribalism, dictatorial tendencies and what have you. Thes are allegations which do exist and are true to some extent! Are these the qualities of a leader we desire for our good nation? I would certainly say NO to that as well.

But what are the options suitable for the people to pursue henceforth? And what about those other guys? The PNU, G7, TNA, GDU, FSX, TFG, etc, etc. What about them? Yes, you mentioned here and there about them, but you certainly did not pursue them with equal vigour as you have on Raeella. Is that being balanced? And if not, why and why notor how are we supposed to fill in the blanks?

I know…you "don't want anyone to "love you" or to tell you anything becuase you are "not a conman" and perhaps even 'mighty'. But if you truly want to be seen to be a people's champion, it is inevitable that you must submit yourself to the 'will of the peopl'e!

Yes mad man from what you have posted... please add a whining child, who was there in this conversations? me thinks it is Miguna's own imagination running wild ;D ;D yes!! yes!! and don't miss out while you are at it.. Kenya Robot voters, how about Goons and ahem.. Groupies.. did I miss any insults out.. please someone enlighten me.. oops yes..
Miguna instead of crisscrossing all over the country in the protection of Kenya police security forces who's salaries are paid by the Kenya tax payers..bure kabisa.. I guess he is in the same league as" Mudavadi who is sent to read the Presidents personal condolences at Funerals" ;D .. Miguna should stop on his way while gallivanting all over the country at any police station and hand in The "PEV" crucial information he shouted on top of his voice on national media that he is withholding.. "only a mad man" can withhold information that might shade light on what happened to those Innocent Kenyans 6ft under.. other Kenyans have come forward with information,, given to the Waki team and the ICC..

[b6k]

Sept 1, 2012 15:15:36 GMT 3 mugabe said:

Sept 1, 2012 14:51:02 GMT 3 b6k said:

Furaha, I take it you visit Jukwaa because it's the in thing to do, eh? Monitoring hits. Sorry it seems the "Neanderthals" have taken over as the "genuine" Jukwaasits have fled to the hills. No more kumbayas for the Dear Leader here, I'm afraid. He has been put through the microscope, run through the cauldron, until it is determined whether he is fit to be the 4th president of this republic. Having the core element of his choir voluntarily leave Jukwaa is a price worth paying if we can get to the bottom of that task. If it means having a thousand Miguna threads, so mote it be....

Are you a supporter of Mudavadi? Your metamorphosis from ODM leading to TNA supporter (masquerading as an independent) is there for all to see. It is one thing to be disillusioned with ODM but as I remember you used to claim that you were shopping for a genuine third force, what happened? Did Mudavadi convince you?

Of all the aspirants why would you settle on Mudavadi being the one who "convinced" me? If he were, are you sure UDF & TNA are interchangeable? I am still shopping around but the one thing I know is the one who promises change (& katiba implementation) is not a genuine third force ;D