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Post by mank on Sept 29, 2012 22:22:05 GMT 3
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Post by einstein on Sept 29, 2012 23:42:05 GMT 3
Einstein,
in your statement of mission, you say a handful were distressed at the way things were going on at Jukwaa and decided to bolt.
Why do you not say one word: MIGUNA and then OLOO'S REFUSAL TO DENOUNCE HIM! This was the realisation of the ODM Jukwaa inner core, as the decisive elections come, that they did not have sufficient intellectual fire-power to bend Jukwaa into an ODM propaganda blog. Nor posses enough intimidatory leverage to blackmail Oloo into a compliant pawn.
Your hysterical whines for him to discipline the gargantuan ego of Jakaswanga for instance, to which he listened not, revealed a desperacy. Not to mention your becoming totally unhinged in a denunciation of abdulmote.
The thing is, the ODM crowd need a blog they can control, censor and run for their purposes. I will bet a good chunk of unsurpportive commentary will be moderated out!, and this is why the moderator of DC is incognito! Oloo is too independent minded, and therefore profiled as ideologically hostile to the pet Luo project!
I had to carefully investigate why a man of Ogony Adongo's intellect and blogging stature, could give such a stupid reason for quitting Jukwaa.
yes my brother einstein, this obnoxious character Miguna Njuguna ;)is so divisive he has now split me and you, blood brothers! And we have fallen apart! like once the tribal loyalty of feudal africa when the whiteman put a knife to the things or myths that held them together!
be iwinjo tie ngerono omera!?? Jakaswanga,First off, DESPERACY is not an English word, Mr. I-Know-It-All!!!! The word you are DESPERATELY looking for is DESPERATION!!!! Check here: www.chacha.com/question/is-desperacy-a-wordAnd now the rejoinder to your post!! www.jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7319&page=2emali
how so? Explain. I'm open to hearing and even learning. Your comments above to Phil & RR for starters...you seem quite eager to see them leave. I haven’t been a member long here but I frequent this site quite often and their are many members here who make it worth my while and Adongo was one of the best...
Adongo has decided to leave but all you can muster is tell him adios & the rest of the board to follow suit I don’t know maybe it’s because you know him personally & don’t see the big deal but I thought as the moderator this board’s growth or apparent demise would be of concern...
101 viewers and 4 members online may seem to be alright but I think it’s modest & you should be aiming for much more and the way this place has been since Miguna & his tribulations took it over 70 of those viewers might be part of a funeral procession...
O.O. has seen it fit to be part of Miguna’s entourage (I wish I had friends like him) leaving you here to according to definition be ‘someone who presides over a forum or debate’ & ‘be someone who mediates disputes and attempts to avoid violence’...IMO you have failed at both much like a football referee the less we hear from you the better...and most of the time that I notice your posts they tend to take a very pugilistic tone...
[/size] [/quote] And this is what OO wrote in the thread below: www.jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7324&page=2
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 1, 2012 13:43:54 GMT 3
Einstein, I suspect it must have granted you extraordinary satisfaction, to discover the earth-shaking grammatical error by I, your big brother and tormentor, the beastly Mr. I know it all. Being benign to my little brothers, I will not deny you your pleasure! Be my guest, let all the pleasure be yours for slaying and bringing big bro to kiss dust! And as i writhe in shame, and partial awe at your Nobel-price intervention, I humbly note that without going to check anywhere else, the SPELLING AUTO-CORRECTOR of Jukwaa, third button from Left at bottom line of post opening, underlines that kind of stuff in red! Wow Wow! poor me! NB: Lady Kasuku returned! you kind of overplayed her quit. I wish DC well in anycase.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 21:44:25 GMT 3
Earlier today, I saw tnk here poking fun @ jukwaa but still feeling the need to promote deep cognition here for free!
Like I've already told you people, no other single politician has benefited from the existence of jukwaa than Raila. It would kill people like phil, roughrider, tnk, omwenga and others to admit that. But you don't seem to get enough of this place which is why day in and day out phil is here promoting DC and that other website that he started.
You people miscalculated when you went off in a huff and a puff to start DC and to make a concerted effort to draw people from this site to that. You misunderstood that jukwaa has established itself as a credible site on all matters kenya. People still come here in their usual numbers to look up information and to make their own contributions.
Most importantly though you people adongo, job and the rest of you have left this space wide open for the likes of kamalet, mwalimu and others of that ilk to trash your man Raila to their hearts content. Now you tell me, even as you watch for your own interests, how in the world was that a cleaver move months before the elections? I guess you can answer them on deep cognition. yawn. even reporter 911 hasn't seen the need to follow you there. She and omwenga keep us entertained on the daily right here @ jukwaa. The people @ jukwaa that you were protesting against, will continue to offer critical support to Raila or any other politician. That you didn't like. You wanted jukwaa to disintegrate into a kumbaya choir for Raila. is it working? Phil keep sending us to DC
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Post by Mobimba on Oct 4, 2012 22:45:44 GMT 3
KK,
Setting the record straight. Folks fled Jukwaa to avoid being sucked into your luscious cat fight with R11. Really, Jukwaa's lowest point.
Now here you are starting a fight with the few who remained.
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 4, 2012 23:19:28 GMT 3
KK, Setting the record straight. Folks fled Jukwaa to avoid being sucked into your luscious cat fight with R11. Really, Jukwaa's lowest point. Now here you are starting a fight with the few who remained. Lincoln stop referencing me on your threads please.. the beef between myself with Kathure had nothing to do with any member on jukwaa.. Back off.. If you have questions to ask those members who prefer to have multiple threads on different Blogsphere out there. do so I'm sure they can answer you directly, instead of your cheap shots on here.. grow up and move on.. bure kabisa
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Post by Luol Deng on Oct 4, 2012 23:35:04 GMT 3
Earlier today, I saw tnk here poking fun @ jukwaa but still feeling the need to promote deep cognition here for free! Like I've already told you people, no other single politician has benefited from the existence of jukwaa than Raila. It would kill people like phil, roughrider, tnk, omwenga and others to admit that. But you don't seem to get enough of this place which is why day in and day out phil is here promoting DC and that other website that he started. You people miscalculated when you went off in a huff and a puff to start DC and to make a concerted effort to draw people from this site to that. You misunderstood that jukwaa has established itself as a credible site on all matters kenya. People still come here in their usual numbers to look up information and to make their own contributions. Most importantly though you people adongo, job and the rest of you have left this space wide open for the likes of kamalet, mwalimu and others of that ilk to trash your man Raila to their hearts content. Now you tell me, even as you watch for your own interests, how in the world was that a cleaver move months before the elections? I guess you can answer them on deep cognition. yawn. even reporter 911 hasn't seen the need to follow you there. She and omwenga keep us entertained on the daily right here @ jukwaa. The people @ jukwaa that you were protesting against, will continue to offer critical support to Raila or any other politician. That you didn't like. You wanted jukwaa to disintegrate into a kumbaya choir for Raila. is it working? Phil keep sending us to DC Don't you think people can choose to participate in forums as they please? Do you always have to question peoples' motives?
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Post by phil on Oct 4, 2012 23:42:35 GMT 3
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Post by Mobimba on Oct 5, 2012 0:11:08 GMT 3
KK, Setting the record straight. Folks fled Jukwaa to avoid being sucked into your luscious cat fight with R11. Really, Jukwaa's lowest point. Now here you are starting a fight with the few who remained. Lincoln stop referencing me on your threads please.. the beef between myself with Kathure had nothing to do with any member on jukwaa.. Back off.. If you have questions to ask those members who prefer to have multiple threads on different Blogsphere out there. do so I'm sure they can answer you directly, instead of your cheap shots on here.. grow up and move on.. bure kabisa All I'm saying is that yours and hers was the beginning of a very long painful end. Add Miguna's rabid guard dog aka 'Delete' and there you have it.
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 5, 2012 0:28:45 GMT 3
Lincoln stop referencing me on your threads please.. the beef between myself with Kathure had nothing to do with any member on jukwaa.. Back off.. If you have questions to ask those members who prefer to have multiple threads on different Blogsphere out there. do so I'm sure they can answer you directly, instead of your cheap shots on here.. grow up and move on.. bure kabisa All I'm saying is that yours and hers was the beginning of a very long painful end. Add Miguna's rabid guard dog aka 'Delete' and there you have it. Maybe your posts on Jukwaa made some members move on? do you ever wonder you might have been the problem? I think each member on jukwaa know why they are here blogging away... all are adults ama!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 6:09:18 GMT 3
listen philwe aren't seeking your attention or that of the admin @ DC. If we were, we'd be there. I certainly don't venture there, except, when you and your peeps annoyingly go out of your way to make sure we know you are there. OK already! We heard you. We know you're there. We can choose to go there without your daily reminders. you're inundating us with your DC! you're at jukwaa, that's why you're reading this here! and the other thing philwhen it comes to what miguna is up to, i advise you thus. why don't you utilize those super powers which you seemingly have, and which i brought to your attention in the not too distant past. remember? phil it's you with the super powers! you know what to do. keep us updated.
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Post by moesha on Oct 5, 2012 18:16:43 GMT 3
Once again, it seems to me like the moderator is trying to start a fight with members over a non-issue. Jukwaa is not DC and vice versa. What difference does it make who belongs where as long as both blogs are addressing the myriad of issues affecting our country. I believe its a good thing, the more the better and last I checked membership was voluntary on all.
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Post by nereah on Oct 6, 2012 11:25:03 GMT 3
i think its high time the jukwaa administration consider issuing a comprehensive policy statement on this and all that.
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 6, 2012 12:36:49 GMT 3
i think its high time the jukwaa administration consider issuing a comprehensive policy statement on this and all that. TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, DC was launched by Jukwaa disserters, to lay and hatch eggs they thought they could no longer tender here. In their eyes, Jukwaa had degenerated. That is a value judgement. That is, they are opined they are onto something better.Personally I would welcome this opinion from DC. You are trash we are better over here. Because I interpret it in the competitive spirit. If DC is merely aimed to be complementary to Jukwaa, then I will advice my friend and sometimes mentor tnk, to become more ambitious. Otherwise you are only advertising you are the rectal end of Jukwaa, and not the cerebral end. Just state it plain: DC will strive to eclipse Jukwaa in content, thought, analysis and depth. If that is not your mission statement over there at DC, then you are well advised to continue expending the better part of your mind on jukwaa. I notice the handles are still with Oloo. No quitters yet. Phil&Einstein are not worth responding to on DC. It will be when dilly-dalying Job posts on DC that I will get excited. Job comes heavy duty, --that is until his intellectual subservience to comprador Luo nationalism gets the better of him.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Oct 6, 2012 16:26:06 GMT 3
i think its high time the jukwaa administration consider issuing a comprehensive policy statement on this and all that. Nereah:Greetings my Born in Gem sister. There is no need for any "comprehensive policy statement" from Jukwaa except to say the following: 1. Jukwaa WELCOMES the arrival of Deep Cogitation-not to be confused with District of Columbia or DC comics that I used to be so fond of when I was growing up. Even though I am not a praying man, I sincerely wish them well in all their present and future endeavours. Jukwaa did not grow into what it is today by trashing other forums. We did it by attracting the most intelligent Kenyans to come here to share their reflections, misgivings and aspirations on all things political, social, economic, cultural, ideological etc.
2. Jukwaa members are free to join, lead, moderate, motivate as many fora, mailing lists, blogs and social media outlets as they wish.
3.Those who may be thinking of using the Jukwaa platform to undermine Jukwaa may be in for a slightly unpleasant surprise.Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by tnk on Oct 6, 2012 21:55:12 GMT 3
Nereah:Greetings my Born in Gem sister. There is no need for any "comprehensive policy statement" from Jukwaa except to say the following: 1. Jukwaa WELCOMES the arrival of Deep Cogitation-not to be confused with District of Columbia or DC comics that I used to be so fond of when I was growing up. Even though I am not a praying man, I sincerely wish them well in all their present and future endeavours. Jukwaa did not grow into what it is today by trashing other forums. We did it by attracting the most intelligent Kenyans to come here to share their reflections, misgivings and aspirations on all things political, social, economic, cultural, ideological etc.
2. Jukwaa members are free to join, lead, moderate, motivate as many fora, mailing lists, blogs and social media outlets as they wish.
3.Those who may be thinking of using the Jukwaa platform to undermine Jukwaa may be in for a slightly unpleasant surprise.Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator ironically, this is a statement. whether its comprehensive or not is a matter of conjecture. i think also that i have had my say on this topic under our thread on DC titled Response to Jukwaa (jakaswanga take note) its been a pleasure to engage most of you here, OO keep up the great work, I will certainly keep reading what you guys post here and retain my handle for what its worth, but I will however focus inputs at DC. jakaswanga: on the the juvenile taunts and baiting, 'iyo mchongoano is something we enjoyed 'izo mtaa za jeri decades ago and a little bit as professional stone throwers 'uko campo and elsewhere. sometimes its funny. by and large it has no impact, if there is an issue, raise it, and i'll respond accordingly, appealing to some (maybe emotional) response or outburst is cheeky but hey its a free world with that ..... thanks guys, been a pleasure, all and any response to issues here will be over there ............
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Post by OtishOtish on Oct 7, 2012 0:01:28 GMT 3
What a thread. Some mildly entertaining matusi but not a whole lot of light.
DCers: I am among those who have read the lengthy essay on membership and given up at that stage. Food for thought.
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2012 6:05:44 GMT 3
Einstein, I suspect it must have granted you extraordinary satisfaction, to discover the earth-shaking grammatical error by I, your big brother and tormentor, the beastly Mr. I know it all. Being benign to my little brothers, I will not deny you your pleasure! Be my guest, let all the pleasure be yours for slaying and bringing big bro to kiss dust! And as i writhe in shame, and partial awe at your Nobel-price intervention, I humbly note that without going to check anywhere else, the SPELLING AUTO-CORRECTOR of Jukwaa, third button from Left at bottom line of post opening, underlines that kind of stuff in red! Wow Wow! poor me! NB: Lady Kasuku returned! you kind of overplayed her quit. I wish DC well in anycase. Jakaswanga,Good that Sister Kasuku is back, BUT where is Prof. Podp hiding and why?
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 7, 2012 12:52:01 GMT 3
Sawa, tnk, if you are not going to go public that DC wants to give Jukwaa a run for its content et al, I will let you suffocate in your own morgue for now.
Jukwaa has always been a boast. Before I joined I used to read fellas here yelling this was Kenya's best. That is why I joined the bubble as I wrote then. I would definitely be interested in a blog that outranks jukwaa, or attempts to. Your DC is obviously too insecure to declare her worth.
I hope folks of a hardier breed sign up with you, so that the competition can be real. So long.
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2012 13:31:14 GMT 3
Einstein, I suspect it must have granted you extraordinary satisfaction, to discover the earth-shaking grammatical error by I, your big brother and tormentor, the beastly Mr. I know it all. Being benign to my little brothers, I will not deny you your pleasure! Be my guest, let all the pleasure be yours for slaying and bringing big bro to kiss dust! And as i writhe in shame, and partial awe at your Nobel-price intervention, I humbly note that without going to check anywhere else, the SPELLING AUTO-CORRECTOR of Jukwaa, third button from Left at bottom line of post opening, underlines that kind of stuff in red! Wow Wow! poor me! NB: Lady Kasuku returned! you kind of overplayed her quit. I wish DC well in anycase. Jakaswanga,Good that Sister Kasuku is back, BUT where is Prof. Podp hiding and why? Jakaswanga,Still waiting for an answer.
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Post by OtishOtish on Oct 8, 2012 0:15:43 GMT 3
Sawa, tnk, if you are not going to go public that DC wants to give Jukwaa a run for its content et al, I will let you suffocate in your own morgue for now. Jukwaa has always been a boast. Before I joined I used to read fellas here yelling this was Kenya's best. That is why I joined the bubble as I wrote then. I would definitely be interested in a blog that outranks jukwaa, or attempts to. Your DC is obviously too insecure to declare her worth. I hope folks of a hardier breed sign up with you, so that the competition can be real. So long. Jakaswanga: I just joined, and I hope you will come along and be part of the "hardier breed". It would be nice if we could have something other than einstein and tnk talking to themselves, although I note the cursory appearances by Adongo and Akinyi. Mind you, I only got through after asking if I could replace the Blog Admin, and I think I need Google Maps to get around the site. I still can't read or comment on other posts, because they require all sorts of passwords that I don't have. At this rate our membership will probably peak at 10.
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 8, 2012 12:21:46 GMT 3
otishotish,
what is your handle over there, so I can navigate straight to it? Or is it some kind of mirror image? with the already established handles on jukwaa being the going currencies? --Akinny, Adongo!
why recreate another Jukwaa? I am staying with the original --until I ran foul of the moderator and get the boot. By the way, can we discuss Patpong and Thailand over there, and all forms of meat without the whip of tnk on our backs? --then I join now!
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Post by podp on Oct 8, 2012 14:30:02 GMT 3
Einstein, I suspect it must have granted you extraordinary satisfaction, to discover the earth-shaking grammatical error by I, your big brother and tormentor, the beastly Mr. I know it all. Being benign to my little brothers, I will not deny you your pleasure! Be my guest, let all the pleasure be yours for slaying and bringing big bro to kiss dust! And as i writhe in shame, and partial awe at your Nobel-price intervention, I humbly note that without going to check anywhere else, the SPELLING AUTO-CORRECTOR of Jukwaa, third button from Left at bottom line of post opening, underlines that kind of stuff in red! Wow Wow! poor me! NB: Lady Kasuku returned! you kind of overplayed her quit. I wish DC well in anycase. Jakaswanga,Good that Sister Kasuku is back, BUT where is Prof. Podp hiding and why? I have not gone into hiding but rather was visiting the mountain for some inspiration. Have visited DC and like the front office look and gmail style of keeping tabs on contents under discussion. But I prefer this home here at Jukwaa. Why are you missing me?
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Post by kamalet on Oct 8, 2012 14:43:35 GMT 3
What a shame! People are not even ashamed to twist facts to suit their own propaganda and even get a free space to post the same! Is this the Kenya we really want to live in and bequeath to our own children? Please wait for the truth, nothing else but the truth about these politically or otherwise instigated violence in Kenya to be released soon by: deepcogitation.com/ A Fact Based, Critical Examination and Analysis of Leadership, Governance, Politics and Societal Issues forum. This is your one and probably only source of the truth, nothing else but the whole truth; the forum in the world wide web committed to restoring the dignity of the down-trodden Kenyans!! Please look out for our statement on the politically or otherwise instigated violence in Kenya to be released soonest! I believe this is my brother Einstein flogging his new pet. But the continual use of so many Jukwaa handles, means it is a jukwaa clone in concept. I always welcome a critical examination and analysis of anything, but given I know the work of einstein and phil on jukwaa, allow me to grin lazily! I will sign into that deep blog with the handle jerk-a.ss Mwalimu Jerk-ass-wanga That is just too hilarious! Interesting how the truth can be so funny!
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Post by abdulmote on Oct 8, 2012 16:30:48 GMT 3
Has anybody noticed how some posts here click hundreds or thousands of 'views' within such a short period of time? Very popular posters, one would want us to think.
Well, I cannot help but imagine someone has decided that the best way forward is to sit by the keyboard and just click the strokes; in and out, in and out, in and out,...until the numbers appear satisfying to the eye!
Clever, en'it?
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