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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 19, 2013 22:29:55 GMT 3
Meanwhile, Mudavadi is asking all the right questions. It is becoming apparent that ODM/CORD stands on nothing else but pitting one ethnic community against the other. But Kenyans are reading through their machinations. Here is Mudavadi, the Amani leader: Mudavadi accuses ODM of fanning ethnic hatredAmani coalition flag bearer Musalia Mudavadi has accused ODM, which is part of Cord, of fanning ethnic hatred among communities in the western region by claiming that his candidature will help the Jubilee alliance. Mr Mudavadi said the allegations by ODM were divisive and meant to cause conflict among Kenyans. “They are saying a vote for Amani coalition is a vote for a Kikuyu. Yet just months ago, they were in the G7 group with the Jubilee leaders. Were they not aware at the time of the tribe of Jubilee leaders?” he asked.The United Democratic Forum leader said that ODM must avoid double-speak on sensitive matters that could cause ethnic conflict and affect national unity. “On national television, they tell Kenyans to shun tribalism but when they come to you, they tell you how this and that tribe is bad to lead Kenya. But they do not ever say how good you are to lead Kenya,” he said, alluding to his candidature.He continued: “There is nobody entitled to any votes in Kenya.” Mr Mudavadi, who is also Deputy Prime Minister, warned that the kind of politics practised by ODM was likely to lead to ethnic animosity in the country. Conceal fear “They should know that the western vote is for Amani. Let them take their hate campaign elsewhere,” he said.The Amani presidential candidate said attempts to malign him through propaganda, painting him as a spoiler in the race to State House, was part of a plot by ODM to conceal their fear of losing.
He made the remarks in Sabatia yesterday when he hosted a meeting for Amani candidates on strategies to win the coming elections. “How can I be a spoiler when I am the only presidential candidate from this region?” he asked.
He added that those who joined other alliances after failing to be picked as candidates were the traitors and spoilers.elections.nation.co.ke/news/Mudavadi-accuses-ODM-of-fanning-ethnic-hatred/-/1631868/1699126/-/l88fyk/-/index.html
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Post by kamalet on Feb 19, 2013 22:44:15 GMT 3
Mudavadi should do what will annoy his opponents but will define himself as a leader that can negotiate if the polls end up in a run off.
For the next 13 days he should camp in Western campaigning for UDF candidates for parliament, senate and governorship by using his presidential candidate's aura. If he can bag many UDF seats, then in the event of a run off or even if its a first round election, he will still have the numbers to do deals for himself and his region.
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Post by Mobimba on Feb 19, 2013 23:01:00 GMT 3
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 20, 2013 4:53:43 GMT 3
Mudavadi should do what will annoy his opponents but will define himself as a leader that can negotiate if the polls end up in a run off. For the next 13 days he should camp in Western campaigning for UDF candidates for parliament, senate and governorship by using his presidential candidate's aura. If he can bag many UDF seats, then in the event of a run off or even if its a first round election, he will still have the numbers to do deals for himself and his region. Kamale,Absolutely. He is indeed camping in Western in the final week of the campaigns. In the meantime, Eugine has been doing a very good job in Trans Nzoia and Bungoma with kina Khalwale and Khaniri busy in Kakamega and Vihiga. The numbers are really looking good for them. But Mudavadi must not take them for granted, he has to spend enough time on the ground and lock out any vultures. He must keep in mind that it is only by having a sizable number of MPs and senators that he can negotiate for any substantial cake for his people post election. So far Jubilee has the majority leader and speaker positions open and can be given to western as a way of bringing them into the fold either in round two if we go there or the government.
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Post by phil on Feb 20, 2013 12:44:58 GMT 3
Mudavadi should do what will annoy his opponents but will define himself as a leader that can negotiate if the polls end up in a run off. For the next 13 days he should camp in Western campaigning for UDF candidates for parliament, senate and governorship by using his presidential candidate's aura. If he can bag many UDF seats, then in the event of a run off or even if its a first round election, he will still have the numbers to do deals for himself and his region. Yet again, propagating bullcrap in the form of purporting to offer political consultancy. TNA is in bed with Amani's Eugene Wamalwa. who was supposedly paid something in the region of Ksh 2 billion TNA supremos to keep Musalia busy and hold forte in Western The plan is to eventually ditch Musalia after he takes your advise and balkanizes the Western vote past the first round and prevent those votes going to CORD (preventing a round one win for CORD). Wamalwa has secretly been promised National Assembly Speaker position and will start campaigning for Jubilee in the event of a run-off. In case you did not notice, about two months ago, Project Wamalwa was running all over the country jumping from coalition to coaliton wreaking havock on behalf of his paymasters with a very fake presidential bid. Today, his party New FORD Kenya does not have a presidential candidate or even a running mate position. His secret MOU with TNA (for SNA position) is why he is missing in action in Musalia's campaign rallies of late. What is confounding is that Jubilee had earlier promised Abdikadir the same position. I am afraid the Luhya falling victim to Uhuru's dark forces again. Wame pangwa waka pangika. A unified Luhya vote is the biggest threat to Agikuyu hegemony in Kenya, everyone knows that. As for Musalia, pole sana Ndungu. 2017 luwere.
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Post by kamalet on Feb 20, 2013 13:31:16 GMT 3
TNA is in bed with Amani's Eugene Wamalwa. who was supposedly paid something in the region of Ksh 2 billion TNA supremos to keep Musalia busy and hold forte in Western The plan is to eventually ditch Musalia after he takes your advise and balkanizes the Western vote past the first round and prevent those votes going to CORD (preventing a round one win for CORD). Once again you have made a bold allegation without providing an iota of evidence of what you claim that Wamalwa is in cahoots with TNA. Do you think folk in Jukwaa are this silly to take such rubbish without any facts? I know that guys in DC take such rubbish lying down and that is where you should keep it. In any case if this was how ODM is thinking, at what time -in the next 12 days - will the move by Wamalwa be made? Daft thinking you see? Wamalwa has secretly been promised National Assembly Speaker position and will start campaigning for Jubilee in the event of a run-off. In case you did not notice, about two months ago, Project Wamalwa was running all over the country jumping from coalition to coaliton wreaking havock on behalf of his paymasters with a very fake presidential bid. Today, his party New FORD Kenya does not have a presidential candidate or even a running mate position. His secret MOU with TNA (for SNA position) is why he is missing in action in Musalia's campaign rallies of late. What is confounding is that Jubilee had earlier promised Abdikadir the same position. Really? Are you ACTUALLY suggesting that Mudavadi is such a fool not to have seen this secret arrangement? Why did Wamalwa not just lead his own campaign as he is allegedly doing now without following Mudavadi in the first instance? You perhaps inadvertently credit Jubilee with the wisdom of not sharing out some seats unlike in CORD where even non existent seats have been offered! You really should know where the fools reside Phil!! I am afraid the Luhya falling victim to Uhuru's dark forces again. Wame pangwa waka pangika. A unified Luhya vote is the biggest threat to Agikuyu hegemony in Kenya, everyone knows that. As for Musalia, pole sana Ndungu. 2017 luwere. And finally you bring out what has been the quiet CORD campaign that they have feared to bring out and that is the stupidity of 42-1. Going on to paint the gikuyu as the enemy has been the closeted ODM campaign mantra. Unfortunately, Kenyans have moved on and will not be drawn back to the dark days of dividing them by the tribe they belong.
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Post by phil on Feb 20, 2013 14:38:58 GMT 3
You want to sound serious and knowledgeable when in real sense you are defending status quo forces. I can point out to you five or six substantial real estate investments done by the Justice Minister in TransNzoia and BungomaCounties, a bit in Nairobi in the course of the last six months. And yes, evidence of movement of large amounts of cash (like for in the case of Mudavadi defecting from ODM) is discernible. How long has the Justice minister served? The issue here is, Like Ruto, Wamalwa has spent the better part of three years insisting on a presidential run. We know why both did not materialise and the thread is still here: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7515Mudavadi is a fool. That is what I am actually asserting. He has been taken for a ride many times. If it is not the dark forces from Kenyatta, it is the expert puppet-control hands of Moi. He was given a political party with many GEMA MPs, now he has only Kioni. I do not need to repeat what happened. Even now, he is still being taken for a ride. It is not a new story. Agikuyu are very much part of Kenya. We just wish they could consider to listen to non-Agikuyu aspirants and give them an equal chance with their own brethren. So your 42 vs 1 arguement is just diversionary to say the least.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 20, 2013 22:20:07 GMT 3
You want to sound serious and knowledgeable when in real sense you are defending status quo forces. I can point out to you five or six substantial real estate investments done by the Justice Minister in TransNzoia and BungomaCounties, a bit in Nairobi in the course of the last six months. And yes, evidence of movement of large amounts of cash (like for in the case of Mudavadi defecting from ODM) is discernible. How long has the Justice minister served? The issue here is, Like Ruto, Wamalwa has spent the better part of three years insisting on a presidential run. We know why both did not materialise and the thread is still here: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7515Mudavadi is a fool. That is what I am actually asserting. He has been taken for a ride many times. If it is not the dark forces from Kenyatta, it is the expert puppet-control hands of Moi. He was given a political party with many GEMA MPs, now he has only Kioni. I do not need to repeat what happened. Even now, he is still being taken for a ride. It is not a new story. Agikuyu are very much part of Kenya. We just wish they could consider to listen to non-Agikuyu aspirants and give them an equal chance with their own brethren. So your 42 vs 1 arguement is just diversionary to say the least. My friend, your intolerance is now reaching its all time high. I know it is a very difficult time out there on the campaign trail and that ODM has no better tormentors than Uhuru and Mudavadi. But that cannot be the reason to hurl epithets their side. Show some decorum, people can always disagree without being disagreeable.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 21, 2013 7:57:03 GMT 3
A ringing endorsement for the son of Mululu, Musalia Mudavadi: West fm at this historic juncture takes the position that with Musalia Mudavadi’s credentials weighed against the competition he is facing, he is an A star politician. Western Province the Luhya community and other Communities in the region should not have any guilty conscience or apology that they will be branded as tribalists or whatever for voting for Musalia Mudavadi. Indeed, others will bandy the vulgar indignity that the Luhyia vote for Musalia Mudavadi will be a vote for Uhuru Kenyatta. If Western Province and the Luhyia and other Communities in the region by voting for Musalia Mudavadi to a man or woman can lead the Presidential Elections to a run off, then so much the better for the validation that the region and its communities is not a “footnote” or “non entity” in Kenya and its politics.westfm.co.ke/index-page-news-bid-7995.htm------------ No wonder Phil and his party are not happy with him, he has simply locked them out of western, a region they thought was so cheap as to be courted with maize like chicken kut kut kut kut as they had always said.
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Post by b6k on Feb 21, 2013 8:23:01 GMT 3
Mudavadi is a fool. That is what I am actually asserting. He has been taken for a ride many times. If it is not the dark forces from Kenyatta, it is the expert puppet-control hands of Moi. He was given a political party with many GEMA MPs, now he has only Kioni. I do not need to repeat what happened. Even now, he is still being taken for a ride. Let the record reflect that the one jockey who "rode" foolish Mudavadi longest is none other than Raila, he of "agree to play second fiddle in ODM or go" fame which has morphed to "come back to my fold & redeem yourself...again (no mention of save my campaign)" fame ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 13, 2013 4:55:16 GMT 3
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Post by mank on Mar 13, 2013 5:07:46 GMT 3
that is the logic the Ameru under one Mbus conductor aka Minister of Energy, KM is using. unite all the home boys and girls inside one Mbus aka APK and when they bag the Senator, Governor, MPs etc. whoever will be in power will have to reckon with that lot Anything I can say to Jukwaasts not to mention Mbaas guy unnecessarily? It embarrasses me ... it makes me think of pulling an Otish over my county affiliation. Fortunittely I come from the other side of the county where we consider the mbaas folks and their king as folks from another place. I have never understood how people keep voting such embarrassments time and time again ... but hey, I am only one person, and the are many.... I was taught to assume the wisdom of a multitude to always exceed that of an individual. They are an embarrassment all the sme.
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