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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 7, 2013 17:58:01 GMT 3
Both KTN and NTVare claiming to be streaming the results live over the internet-yet when you open the two channels simultaneuosly, one is definitely lagging-I am watching the announcements by the chair and his commissioners- one is definitely digital and the other one analogue.
I dont get how rejected votes were being multiplied by 38- what else is being multiplied?
Kenya yetu.
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 19:17:20 GMT 3
Dr. Evans Kidero wins the Nairobi Governor position. Great news that a Nairobi has not gone to a buffoon. That is great news indeed. Kidero was one of 2 ODM aspirants I voted for. I'm pleasantly surprised that he managed to pip Waititu to the post ;D ;D |
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Post by mugabe on Mar 7, 2013 20:10:39 GMT 3
Dr. Evans Kidero wins the Nairobi Governor position. Great news that a Nairobi has not gone to a buffoon. That is great news indeed. Kidero was one of 2 ODM aspirants I voted for. I'm pleasantly surprised that he managed to pip Waititu to the post ;D ;D Out of curiosity who did you vote for President? I voted for PK. Off late you have been keeping company with the jubilee crowd so I am just curious whether you are not what one jukwaist referred to as a 'disguised partisan'. Anyway, some of us made peace with a Uhuruto presidency despite the tyranny it will inevitably engender. ;D |
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 20:32:04 GMT 3
That is great news indeed. Kidero was one of 2 ODM aspirants I voted for. I'm pleasantly surprised that he managed to pip Waititu to the post ;D ;D Out of curiosity who did you vote for President? I voted for PK. Off late you have been keeping company with the jubilee crowd so I am just curious whether you are not what one jukwaist referred to as a 'disguised partisan'. Anyway, some of us made peace with a Uhuruto presidency despite the tyranny it will inevitably engender. ;D , I was very generous to various parties. I had ODM, UDF, TNA, LPK represented on my ballots. Only two have won that I am aware of. Kidero & Shebesh. My presidential vote was "wasted" with one of the also-rans who haven't made much of a dent in the two horse race ;D I have always been in camp ABR... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 0:58:43 GMT 3
there's only 222,000 difference in votes between uhuru and raila.
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Post by Mobimba on Mar 8, 2013 1:04:55 GMT 3
there's only 222,000 difference in votes between uhuru and raila. …and close to four million votes to count. They are only doing this to show CORD folks that there's some form of fairness and normalcy before suddenly taking Uhuru past the 50% mark, never to be seen again. Uhuru is winning this thing by 53-54% |
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Post by joblesscorner on Mar 8, 2013 1:13:43 GMT 3
Lincoln,the motherloads have not been announced yet we have not even milked Kiambu, Muranga, Baringo, Embu and some other fertile Jubilee zones, even my county Nakuru, we have over 400,000 votes there.  Raila has milked all of his strong holds Machakos,Ukambani, Coast, Western and Nyanza. there's only 222,000 difference in votes between uhuru and raila. …and close to four million votes to count. They are only doing this to show CORD folks that there's some form of fairness and normalcy before suddenly taking Uhuru past the 50% mark, never to be seen again. Uhuru is winning this thing by 53-54%
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 1:40:12 GMT 3
there's only 222,000 difference in votes between uhuru and raila. …and close to four million votes to count. They are only doing this to show CORD folks that there's some form of fairness and normalcy before suddenly taking Uhuru past the 50% mark, never to be seen again. Uhuru is winning this thing by 53-54% really 4,000,000? that warms my heart. somehow among those votes raila may prevail. very depressing. Hugo Chavez is dead and Kenyans are busy trying to elect an indicted war criminal as their head of state. contrary to what mank would have us believe, people voted mainly in ethnic blocks. their votes do not signify their opposition to the ICC process, rather it is evidence of the ways in which the ruling elites have managed to take Kenyans for a ride, manipulating their world outlook in the name of negative ethnicity. that's all. |
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Post by mangai on Mar 8, 2013 1:51:36 GMT 3
Just when Raila was about to catch up with Uhuru, albeit temporarily, the tallying board at Bomas 'refuses' to update results read from about eight constituencies. Since 'reinforcements' have arrived from Tigania, Kiambaa and Embakasi North, the latter two being presented twice, after being read late Thursday, I am now sure the system will be up and working.
You have to give it to those guys!
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Post by mank on Mar 8, 2013 2:03:24 GMT 3
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... contrary to what mank would have us believe, people voted mainly in ethnic blocks. their votes do not signify their opposition to the ICC process, rather it is evidence of the ways in which the ruling elites have managed to take Kenyans for a ride, manipulating their world outlook in the name of negative ethnicity. that's all.
You seem not to have noticed that there were a number of other presidential contenders from Uhuru's ethnic group. So while people voted in ethnic blocks, it is not so simply because of voting through ethnic blocks that Uhuru picked so many votes. ... otherwise he should have split those votes equally with others from his ethnicity. As I have said somewhere on this forum mine is not mere imagination rather it is informed by conversations with people that voted for Uhuru. Just today I was talking with one of them and he said ".... it is as I told you, we gave him all the votes so they can take him to Hague with them (votes)." |
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Post by mangai on Mar 8, 2013 2:24:28 GMT 3
Just when Raila was about to catch up with Uhuru, albeit temporarily, the tallying board at Bomas 'refuses' to update results read from about eight constituencies. Since 'reinforcements' have arrived from Tigania, Kiambaa and Embakasi North, the latter two being presented twice, after being read late Thursday, I am now sure the system will be up and working. You have to give it to those guys! Some party agents are now protesting and have forced IEBC to stop releasing further results until those which had been released earlier, like 45 minutes ago, are updated in the final tally. |
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Post by 50cents on Mar 8, 2013 2:26:34 GMT 3
Just when Raila was about to catch up with Uhuru, albeit temporarily, the tallying board at Bomas 'refuses' to update results read from about eight constituencies. Since 'reinforcements' have arrived from Tigania, Kiambaa and Embakasi North, the latter two being presented twice, after being read late Thursday, I am now sure the system will be up and working. You have to give it to those guys! Fresh twist as Raila slashes Uhuru’s lead. This is just a twist before they throw another fresh dunk. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 2:58:05 GMT 3
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... contrary to what mank would have us believe, people voted mainly in ethnic blocks. their votes do not signify their opposition to the ICC process, rather it is evidence of the ways in which the ruling elites have managed to take Kenyans for a ride, manipulating their world outlook in the name of negative ethnicity. that's all.
You seem not to have noticed that there were a number of other presidential contenders from Uhuru's ethnic group. So while people voted in ethnic blocks, it is not so simply because of voting through ethnic blocks that Uhuru picked so many votes. ... otherwise he should have split those votes equally with others from his ethnicity. As I have said somewhere on this forum mine is not mere imagination rather it is informed by conversations with people that voted for Uhuru. Just today I was talking with one of them and he said ".... it is as I told you, we gave him all the votes so they can take him to Hague with them (votes)." yes there were other kikuyu contenders. however, not all kikuyus are created equal. not all kikuyus are kamwana or the annointed one. and you see mank, not all kikuyu contenders had loads and loads of $$ to blow as did Mr. I own a whole damn province, kiss my tush kenyans! (no pun intended  ) yes, raila too has got some serious $$, but merly a drop in a bucket compared to what kamwana has at his disposal. as it turns out, uhuru got a tone of votes, but so too did raila. As it stands presently, there's a very small gap between the two. and even though raila got block votes from the luos, he also had a tone of support from the coast for instance. you people from coast should be proud of yourselves for voting for the better of the top two contenders. i also saw kambas vote for raila; perhaps because of kalonzo, but it sure is cool to see kenyans try to raise above the absurdity of mutu wetu. futhermore mank, luos have without a doubt demonstrated their willingness and ability to vote in people outside of their own ethnic group. still waiting for those of MK extraction such as you and i to demonstrate the same goodwill, the same willingness to raise above the petty. so, woe unto those who gave uhuru votes "so they can take him to Hague with them" as uhuruto have surely found out through ICC process, MKP will reap what we sow. and we will surely rue the day when the chickens come home to roost. |
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Post by deyiengs on Mar 8, 2013 3:16:41 GMT 3
Who know where we can find the complete list of those constituencies that are still pending?
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Post by b6k on Mar 8, 2013 3:22:14 GMT 3
there's only 222,000 difference in votes between uhuru and raila. …and close to four million votes to count. They are only doing this to show CORD folks that there's some form of fairness and normalcy before suddenly taking Uhuru past the 50% mark, never to be seen again. Uhuru is winning this thing by 53-54% Right you are. After Raila votes surged & reduced UK's lead to just about 160k, the latest announcements have pushed UK over the 4m mark with the gap widening. Current stats are UK 4,021,941 to Raila's 3,595404... |
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Post by mank on Mar 8, 2013 3:41:23 GMT 3
yes there were other kikuyu contenders. however, not all kikuyus are created equal. not all kikuyus are kamwana or the annointed one. and you see mank, not all kikuyu contenders had loads and loads of $$ to blow as did Mr. I own a whole damn province, kiss my tush kenyans! (no pun intended )
yes, raila too has got some serious $$, but merly a drop in a bucket compared to what kamwana has at his disposal. as it turns out, uhuru got a tone of votes, but so too did raila. As it stands presently, there's a very small gap between the two. and even though raila got block votes from the luos, he also had a tone of support from the coast for instance. you people from coast should be proud of yourselves for voting for the better of the top two contenders. i also saw kambas vote for raila; perhaps because of kalonzo, but it sure is cool to see kenyans try to raise above the absurdity of mutu wetu. futhermore mank, luos have without a doubt demonstrated their willingness and ability to vote in people outside of their own ethnic group. still waiting for those of MK extraction such as you and i to demonstrate the same goodwill, the same willingness to raise above the petty.
so, woe unto those who gave uhuru votes "so they can take him to Hague with them" as uhuruto have surely found out through ICC process, MKP will reap what we sow. and we will surely rue the day when the chickens come home to roost. Your argument was that ethnic voting is the reason Uhuru is leading. Now you have come back saying that Raila also was the beneficiary of ethnic voting (but he is not leading like Uhuru), meaning you are arguing against your own point. That is before you open up into a cocktail jam of other arguments in which each line is a counterargument to another. Like it is only "mtu wetu" when someone votes for Uhuru on ethnic motivations but not when another votes Raila or Kalonzo on the same. I hate going into discussion with people who are so eager to debate themselves, because then they keep jumping into my side of the argument and back to theirs. It is frustrating! |
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Post by deyiengs on Mar 8, 2013 4:30:30 GMT 3
Uhuru's strongholds: Manyatta, Siakago, Gachoka, Ol kalau, Ndaragwa, Kieni, Nyeri town, Othaya, Kangema, Bomet E, Baringo N, Tiarty,Njoro, Molo, Nithi, Tharaka, Maara, Gichugu, Thika town, Kabete, Isiolo N, Marakwet E, Marakwet W, Igembe C, Central Imenti Buuri
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Post by kamalet on Mar 8, 2013 8:01:10 GMT 3
yes there were other kikuyu contenders. however, not all kikuyus are created equal. not all kikuyus are kamwana or the annointed one. and you see mank, not all kikuyu contenders had loads and loads of $$ to blow as did Mr. I own a whole damn province, kiss my tush kenyans! (no pun intended )
yes, raila too has got some serious $$, but merly a drop in a bucket compared to what kamwana has at his disposal. as it turns out, uhuru got a tone of votes, but so too did raila. As it stands presently, there's a very small gap between the two. and even though raila got block votes from the luos, he also had a tone of support from the coast for instance. you people from coast should be proud of yourselves for voting for the better of the top two contenders. i also saw kambas vote for raila; perhaps because of kalonzo, but it sure is cool to see kenyans try to raise above the absurdity of mutu wetu. futhermore mank, luos have without a doubt demonstrated their willingness and ability to vote in people outside of their own ethnic group. still waiting for those of MK extraction such as you and i to demonstrate the same goodwill, the same willingness to raise above the petty.
so, woe unto those who gave uhuru votes "so they can take him to Hague with them" as uhuruto have surely found out through ICC process, MKP will reap what we sow. and we will surely rue the day when the chickens come home to roost. Your argument was that ethnic voting is the reason Uhuru is leading. Now you have come back saying that Raila also was the beneficiary of ethnic voting (but he is not leading like Uhuru), meaning you are arguing against your own point. That is before you open up into a cocktail jam of other arguments in which each line is a counterargument to another. Like it is only "mtu wetu" when someone votes for Uhuru on ethnic motivations but not when another votes Raila or Kalonzo on the same. I hate going into discussion with people who are so eager to debate themselves, because then they keep jumping into my side of the argument and back to theirs. It is frustrating! Poor Merus....left behind by the country by not voting tribal blocks! How about them who voted in two ODM candidates and some Indian chap? They surely have not heard about ethnic voting have they? |
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Post by mank on Mar 8, 2013 8:07:29 GMT 3
Your argument was that ethnic voting is the reason Uhuru is leading. Now you have come back saying that Raila also was the beneficiary of ethnic voting (but he is not leading like Uhuru), meaning you are arguing against your own point. That is before you open up into a cocktail jam of other arguments in which each line is a counterargument to another. Like it is only "mtu wetu" when someone votes for Uhuru on ethnic motivations but not when another votes Raila or Kalonzo on the same. I hate going into discussion with people who are so eager to debate themselves, because then they keep jumping into my side of the argument and back to theirs. It is frustrating!
Poor Merus....left behind by the country by not voting tribal blocks! How about them who voted in two ODM candidates and some Indian chap? They surely have not heard about ethnic voting have they?Kamale, Obviously that's news that KK is unaware of ... just as she is not aware that Luo land voted Raila at closer to 100% than 95%. : |
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 8, 2013 8:24:21 GMT 3
Your argument was that ethnic voting is the reason Uhuru is leading. Now you have come back saying that Raila also was the beneficiary of ethnic voting (but he is not leading like Uhuru), meaning you are arguing against your own point. That is before you open up into a cocktail jam of other arguments in which each line is a counterargument to another. Like it is only "mtu wetu" when someone votes for Uhuru on ethnic motivations but not when another votes Raila or Kalonzo on the same. I hate going into discussion with people who are so eager to debate themselves, because then they keep jumping into my side of the argument and back to theirs. It is frustrating! Poor Merus....left behind by the country by not voting tribal blocks! How about them who voted in two ODM candidates and some Indian chap? They surely have not heard about ethnic voting have they? totally uncalled for. |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 8, 2013 9:28:24 GMT 3
Poor Merus....left behind by the country by not voting tribal blocks! How about them who voted in two ODM candidates and some Indian chap? They surely have not heard about ethnic voting have they? totally uncalled for. Of course if you cannot understand the context it is posted in. Luckily the one addressed does clearly understand the context and I am cool. Next time read everything that is written, it helps. FYI...mine was to explain the wealth of Meru diversity, but you surely could not get it!! |
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Post by b6k on Mar 8, 2013 10:31:06 GMT 3
On a lighter note Kenyan sign language is very interesting. Why is it that Raila Odinga is signed with a cutting motion to the throat while Paul Muite is done with what looks like a weeping motion? Did the designers of the language know something about Odinga & Muite we don't know? ;D
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Post by kipfirimbi on Mar 8, 2013 10:32:16 GMT 3
Interlude:
nasio fontaine-crucial
I see dark times a head before it gets any better!
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Post by cheshirecat on Mar 8, 2013 10:50:37 GMT 3
You seem not to have noticed that there were a number of other presidential contenders from Uhuru's ethnic group. So while people voted in ethnic blocks, it is not so simply because of voting through ethnic blocks that Uhuru picked so many votes. ... otherwise he should have split those votes equally with others from his ethnicity. As I have said somewhere on this forum mine is not mere imagination rather it is informed by conversations with people that voted for Uhuru. Just today I was talking with one of them and he said ".... it is as I told you, we gave him all the votes so they can take him to Hague with them (votes)." yes there were other kikuyu contenders. however, not all kikuyus are created equal. not all kikuyus are kamwana or the annointed one. and you see mank, not all kikuyu contenders had loads and loads of $$ to blow as did Mr. I own a whole damn province, kiss my tush kenyans! (no pun intended ) yes, raila too has got some serious $$, but merly a drop in a bucket compared to what kamwana has at his disposal. as it turns out, uhuru got a tone of votes, but so too did raila. As it stands presently, there's a very small gap between the two. and even though raila got block votes from the luos, he also had a tone of support from the coast for instance. you people from coast should be proud of yourselves for voting for the better of the top two contenders. i also saw kambas vote for raila; perhaps because of kalonzo, but it sure is cool to see kenyans try to raise above the absurdity of mutu wetu. futhermore mank, luos have without a doubt demonstrated their willingness and ability to vote in people outside of their own ethnic group. still waiting for those of MK extraction such as you and i to demonstrate the same goodwill, the same willingness to raise above the petty. so, woe unto those who gave uhuru votes "so they can take him to Hague with them" as uhuruto have surely found out through ICC process, MKP will reap what we sow. and we will surely rue the day when the chickens come home to roost. In a pub in Kiambu town, i heard a man loudly protest over one of those per-election ads preaching peace and urging people to shun tribalism. 'ici ni ngano cia marimu, he said, mareda gutuhenia nigu maigirie mundu wao' ("These are ogre (tall) tales they are telling us, they want to cheat us to they can sneak their guy in") For us to end the scourge of tribalism, we have to start being honest with ourselves. There is nothing like 'progressive' tribalism and 'retrogressive' tribalism. Ruto did for uhuru what kalonzo did for Raila. Kikuyus did for uhuru what luos did for raila. This is the truth and to try to pretend there is a difference is fairly dishonest. if raila had said Nyachae tosha, do you think Luo Nyanza would have voted for kibaki in 2002? many kenyans, with the possible exception of Western Kenya, always vote for their tribesmen or where their tribesmen point them towards. The sad thing about this kind of cherry picking you are doing is that it proves the guy in the Kiambu pub right. And as long as they sense they are being sucker-punched, it will never end. our grand parents were talking about it 50 years ago. we are talking about it now and our grand children will still be talking about it 50 years to come. You kill roaches in every room in the house not in some rooms. Peace. |
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Post by b6k on Mar 8, 2013 11:07:06 GMT 3
As Mudavadi concedes one wonders when his former mentor, Captain, will follow suit. The trend seems pretty clear & save for a brief period when his votes closed the gap, Raila has trailed UK from day one. Let's see how long we have to sit & wait....
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