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Post by kamalet on Nov 23, 2013 9:00:34 GMT 3
anyone remembers how Raila and Ruto started falling out....it was over the Mau evictions many moons later the unraveling of the Uhuru and Ruto continues and the poor evictees will be those still dreaming of peace between their two communities, that is non existent The sources, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter, said the envoys called on Mr Ruto to prevail upon President Kenyatta to agree to attend his trial through video link “as that was the nearest compromise that the international community could support.” “The trio discussed the use of video link for two hours. Mr Ruto said he had no problem with the issue but had to consult first,” a source privy to the meeting said. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/William-Ruto-United-States-United-Kingdom/-/1064/2085042/-/7vx76ez/-/index.htmlwhat happens when Ruto is acquitted by ICC come next year and Uhuru has to face trial? how is a President impeached as per our Constitution? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HopeHope can first be seen in ancient Greek mythology with the story of Zeus and Prometheus. Prometheus stole fire from the god Zeus, which infuriated the supreme god. In turn, Zeus created a box that contained all manners of evil, unbeknownst to the receiver of the box. Pandora opened the box after being warned not to, and those evils were released into the world; hope, which lay at the bottom of the box, remained. This is the beginning of the tale of hope PODP What makes you think Ruto and Raila were ever friends apart from having a political relationship? It is therefore difficult to use the Mau analogy to predict an Uhuru/Ruto fall out. I think what is most important is the alleged comment that 'he would need to consult first' as I can only imagine he would be consulting upwards and not down! |
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Post by b6k on Nov 23, 2013 19:59:40 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, please don't fall under the general fallacy that Uhuru is motivated to act only on things ICC. If you take a look at the dairy industry for example you will find that he is an extremely driven man, albeit with a little help from his younger brother, Muhoho. Over the last few months, Brookside Dairy has purchased (controlling) shares in almost all large private milk packaging companies in the nation. Brookside is in effect creating a monopsony (a market where there is only one buyer) in the market. This does not bode well for Kenya's dairy farmers. Let them sell to KCC you say. Well, being el presidente, don't you think Uhuru can pull some strings behind the scenes to make sure that the para-statal toes the line? Excerpt 1: "School milk program is set to be revamped to Sh2.6 billion, and it’s not easy to know whether it’s out of Uhuru’s love for kids, or it’s just out of expanding business for Brookside. With Brookside set to supply 70% of the milk to schools, with the rest including KCC sharing the rest 30% of the business, it’s easy to see, how Uhuru’s Brookside will pocket at least 1.5 billion of the Sh2.6 billion school milk budget." Excerpt 2: "There’s already talk of KCC being privatized, and you never know, Brookside is very keen on acquiring a majority stake, together with a Chinese Dairy company. And poor souls, that would be it. Game over for Dairy farmers. KCC is what NCPB is to the maize farmers." www.kenya-today.com/opinion/uhurus-plot-to-sabotage-dairy-industryThe brilliant thing about the Kenyatta family strategy in its bid to monopolize the dairy industry is they tend to leave the brands they acquire running (at least their brands if staff really are sent packing as the article alludes to in at least one case) so as to display a sense of false competition. Excerpt: "In its acquisition spree, Brookside has managed to buy out all its close competitors including Ilara, Delamare and Spin Knit, which was selling the Tuzo brand. This leaves out Fresha, owned by Githunguri Dairies and New KCC as the only other big processors in the market. A consumer study carried out in December last year shows that Molo Milk, manufactured by Buzeki Dairy, commands 18 per cent of the processed milk market followed by Brookside Dairy’s Tuzo and Ilara brands with 15 per cent each. Three Brookside Dairy brands — Tuzo, Ilara and Brookside enjoy a combined market share of 42 per cent, according to the Consumer Insight survey." www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000087532/brookside-dairy-acquires-majority-stake-in-molo-milkKeep in mind Stanley Githunguri is amongst the elite Kikuyus who supported ODM/CORD who have effectively been neutralized by Jubilee machinations. KE has reached the stage where it is run by the robber barons much like the US was in the 19th century. We need anti-trust laws ASAP! Misunderstimate (to use a Bushism) this guy at your own peril... PS: Don't forget Uhuru's milk money turned Gor Mahia around to make 'em champions after 18 years in the wilderness! How's that for drive?  B6k, This is an extraordinary tale, and insight. I wonder whether you are aware of how it beautifully captures the historical stage of capitalist accumulation wherein Kenya is now situated. ---Uhuru Kenyatta being the text-book representative of the cream of Kenya's rich. ---He has abundant capital which must multiply: what are his options? --I will handle this in detail elsewhere in the appropriate thread, but today, suffice is to say.... Here is where Muhoho Kenyatta went to school: TRUST FORMATION. So the Kenyatta’s will be doing a Milk Trust, in the mode of Rockeffeller’s Oil trust. And behind the scenes, his banks forming a loan cartel, will try to preferentially even the way some. [Like Rothschilds was to Rockeffeller's machinations] Well, [Wikipedia] Trusts and cartels are in the rule bad things for the economy and the market. But in the short-run, this is the historical option of the economic phenomenon Uhuru Kenyatta.[By virtue of the economic class he comes from, and the current constellation of the productive forces in Kenya]. Kenyatta senior [Jomo] used the state to primitively amass via land, mortgaging land off against capital, furthering his accumulation. Kenyatta II must, by the dynamics of capital accumulated, find a way to ‘’multiply’’ the cash, aka investment. Since he can not outrightly compete in the ''open market'' ---his banks would be swallowed up immediately by bigger sharks--- he has to 1.personally be in control of the state, so that he can best bend it to his financial purpose ---as you hint below... 2. Choose relatively safe investment portforlios, in which he can use the state power he wields to mediate his business interests: eg revamp the school milk programme, and have his companies supply the milk! Nothing mysterious about these things, nothing unique about these things. Capitalism has been here 300 years, and some countries like the USA have had unbroken records on all its phases! We lat folks just calibrate where we are! On Gor, yes I heard a corded Kogalo fan lament: Y awa, Ouru obolonwa chogo mondo ogalwa, to en odhi gi maduong' cha!Uhuru has tossed us a bone to keep us entertained, while he has fled with the cream! , indeed all I was saying is Uhuru is not as one dimensional as the threads on Jukwaa may try to make him out to be. There is more than ICC that motivates el presidente. I mentioned the milk industry but you have brought up banking. What's happening in the media front as well? Methinks the Kogalo fan's lament captures the situation in toto. He offers bread milk & circus to the hoi polloi as he runs off with the prize. All that does indeed deserve its very own thread... |
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Post by b6k on Nov 23, 2013 20:04:48 GMT 3
anyone remembers how Raila and Ruto started falling out....it was over the Mau evictions many moons later the unraveling of the Uhuru and Ruto continues and the poor evictees will be those still dreaming of peace between their two communities, that is non existent The sources, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter, said the envoys called on Mr Ruto to prevail upon President Kenyatta to agree to attend his trial through video link “as that was the nearest compromise that the international community could support.” “The trio discussed the use of video link for two hours. Mr Ruto said he had no problem with the issue but had to consult first,” a source privy to the meeting said. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/William-Ruto-United-States-United-Kingdom/-/1064/2085042/-/7vx76ez/-/index.htmlwhat happens when Ruto is acquitted by ICC come next year and Uhuru has to face trial? how is a President impeached as per our Constitution? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HopeHope can first be seen in ancient Greek mythology with the story of Zeus and Prometheus. Prometheus stole fire from the god Zeus, which infuriated the supreme god. In turn, Zeus created a box that contained all manners of evil, unbeknownst to the receiver of the box. Pandora opened the box after being warned not to, and those evils were released into the world; hope, which lay at the bottom of the box, remained. This is the beginning of the tale of hope PODP What makes you think Ruto and Raila were ever friends apart from having a political relationship? It is therefore difficult to use the Mau analogy to predict an Uhuru/Ruto fall out. I think what is most important is the alleged comment that 'he would need to consult first' as I can only imagine he would be consulting upwards and not down!  |
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Post by podp on Nov 23, 2013 20:49:27 GMT 3
anyone remembers how Raila and Ruto started falling out....it was over the Mau evictions many moons later the unraveling of the Uhuru and Ruto continues and the poor evictees will be those still dreaming of peace between their two communities, that is non existent The sources, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter, said the envoys called on Mr Ruto to prevail upon President Kenyatta to agree to attend his trial through video link “as that was the nearest compromise that the international community could support.” “The trio discussed the use of video link for two hours. Mr Ruto said he had no problem with the issue but had to consult first,” a source privy to the meeting said. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/William-Ruto-United-States-United-Kingdom/-/1064/2085042/-/7vx76ez/-/index.htmlwhat happens when Ruto is acquitted by ICC come next year and Uhuru has to face trial? how is a President impeached as per our Constitution? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HopeHope can first be seen in ancient Greek mythology with the story of Zeus and Prometheus. Prometheus stole fire from the god Zeus, which infuriated the supreme god. In turn, Zeus created a box that contained all manners of evil, unbeknownst to the receiver of the box. Pandora opened the box after being warned not to, and those evils were released into the world; hope, which lay at the bottom of the box, remained. This is the beginning of the tale of hope PODP What makes you think Ruto and Raila were ever friends apart from having a political relationship? It is therefore difficult to use the Mau analogy to predict an Uhuru/Ruto fall out. I think what is most important is the alleged comment that 'he would need to consult first' as I can only imagine he would be consulting upwards and not down! I only observe people in low and high places, otherwise why should I think Ruto and Raila were never friends apart from having a political relationship? |
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Post by jakaswanga on Nov 24, 2013 1:05:36 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, indeed all I was saying is Uhuru is not as one dimensional as the threads on Jukwaa may try to make him out to be. There is more than ICC that motivates el presidente. I mentioned the milk industry but you have brought up banking. What's happening in the media front as well? Methinks the Kogalo fan's lament captures the situation in toto. He offers bread milk & circus to the hoi polloi as he runs off with the prize. All that does indeed deserve its very own thread... Thank you b6k,This point you raise is a point I was planning to examine in some detail elsewhere, namely at the ‘’What options Uhuru Muigai thread’’. Uhuru Kenyatta, in my estimation, can successfully be projected as a representative case, as the ideological personification of the peak of comprador evolution in modern Africa/Kenya. Bear with me to see the point I want to make here: jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/8440/beloved-kenya-defrauded-futures-optionsNB: This is when I love  Jukwaa. When I am forced to cut down to the chase, quit the bar early, while I was still planning to meander a bit, throwing stones at this and that glass window before blowing the front door to bits! But there was you! you blew the picture wide, ambushing me at the bar and forcing me to press, half a glass in my hand!! –Dammn you! I remember one of my bashes with Oloo the notorious Digital ---remember him, the self-confessed cyber serial killer and menace of Pyongyang!  (he a good candidate for a Cyber ICC if one is ever launched, our Stalinist administrator!] While I was still shy of concepts like ‘’class suicide’’, Oloo went straight to Amilcar Cabral, the man with the best theory on [comprador] class suicide in the African continent. So Red Oloo forced me immediately to abandon my bag of stones, and go for bunk-busting ammo to deconstruct the Son of Jomo in his industrialisation speech! Too here, in this thread I did not want to do a classist, materialist analysis of Ouru Kenyatta as a holistic economic entity! I wanted to take time toying around in tabloid mode, a bit of psychology, and only after that was exhausted, would I ran back to the heavy duty of historical options based on the material level of productive forces at his command! But then you threw a spanner in the works, talking about MONOPSONY! With that concept, of course psychology can no longer be adequate in this debate! It will be painful to hear for some. But even within the comprador of Kenya as a class, there is a differentiation such that an ideological superiority exists within the son of Jomo, which is why he managed to incorporate widowed William Ruto and lay the rudderless concoction called Cord of Raila and Kalonzo to waste.The capital at his command imposes a different organisational mode of disciplined practice. |
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Post by b6k on Nov 24, 2013 21:30:03 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, indeed all I was saying is Uhuru is not as one dimensional as the threads on Jukwaa may try to make him out to be. There is more than ICC that motivates el presidente. I mentioned the milk industry but you have brought up banking. What's happening in the media front as well? Methinks the Kogalo fan's lament captures the situation in toto. He offers bread milk & circus to the hoi polloi as he runs off with the prize. All that does indeed deserve its very own thread... Thank you b6k,This point you raise is a point I was planning to examine in some detail elsewhere, namely at the ‘’What options Uhuru Muigai thread’’. Uhuru Kenyatta, in my estimation, can successfully be projected as a representative case, as the ideological personification of the peak of comprador evolution in modern Africa/Kenya. Bear with me to see the point I want to make here: jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/8440/beloved-kenya-defrauded-futures-optionsNB: This is when I love Jukwaa. When I am forced to cut down to the chase, quit the bar early, while I was still planning to meander a bit, throwing stones at this and that glass window before blowing the front door to bits! But there was you! you blew the picture wide, ambushing me at the bar and forcing me to press, half a glass in my hand!! –Dammn you! I remember one of my bashes with Oloo the notorious Digital ---remember him, the self-confessed cyber serial killer and menace of Pyongyang! (he a good candidate for a Cyber ICC if one is ever launched, our Stalinist administrator!] While I was still shy of concepts like ‘’class suicide’’, Oloo went straight to Amilcar Cabral, the man with the best theory on [comprador] class suicide in the African continent. So Red Oloo forced me immediately to abandon my bag of stones, and go for bunk-busting ammo to deconstruct the Son of Jomo in his industrialisation speech! Too here, in this thread I did not want to do a classist, materialist analysis of Ouru Kenyatta as a holistic economic entity! I wanted to take time toying around in tabloid mode, a bit of psychology, and only after that was exhausted, would I ran back to the heavy duty of historical options based on the material level of productive forces at his command! But then you threw a spanner in the works, talking about MONOPSONY! With that concept, of course psychology can no longer be adequate in this debate! It will be painful to hear for some. But even within the comprador of Kenya as a class, there is a differentiation such that an ideological superiority exists within the son of Jomo, which is why he managed to incorporate widowed William Ruto and lay the rudderless concoction called Cord of Raila and Kalonzo to waste.The capital at his command imposes a different organisational mode of disciplined practice. , samahani sana for chasing you out of the pub prematurely. Having read your massive missive in the Uhuru Muigai thread, all I can say is it was good you kept a clear head. Gotta digest it a couple times before responding  |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 7, 2013 1:52:20 GMT 3
anyone remembers how Raila and Ruto started falling out....it was over the Mau evictions many moons later the unraveling of the Uhuru and Ruto continues and the poor evictees will be those still dreaming of peace between their two communities, that is non existent Drip, drip, drip! the stories keep coming out. Aggravating suspicion. And the counter denials and poker faces won by the two Dons becomes non committal masks of the brave Spartan hiding a fox in his toga. www.standardmedia.co.ke/m/story.php?articleID=2000099569&story_title=Cracks-widen-in-Jubilee-as-daggers-drawn-among-Ruto-and-Uhurus-men Very soon, such an article will cost the standard a fine of ksh. 20M! let us enjoy this while it lasts! [/quote] The sources, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter, said the envoys called on Mr Ruto to prevail upon President Kenyatta to agree to attend his trial through video link “as that was the nearest compromise that the international community could support.” “The trio discussed the use of video link for two hours. Mr Ruto said he had no problem with the issue but had to consult first,” a source privy to the meeting said. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/William-Ruto-United-States-United-Kingdom/-/1064/2085042/-/7vx76ez/-/index.htmlwhat happens when Ruto is acquitted by ICC come next year and Uhuru has to face trial? how is a President impeached as per our Constitution? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HopeHope can first be seen in ancient Greek mythology with the story of Zeus and Prometheus. Prometheus stole fire from the god Zeus, which infuriated the supreme god. In turn, Zeus created a box that contained all manners of evil, unbeknownst to the receiver of the box. Pandora opened the box after being warned not to, and those evils were released into the world; hope, which lay at the bottom of the box, remained. This is the beginning of the tale of hope |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 7, 2013 21:15:27 GMT 3
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Post by podp on Dec 8, 2013 21:09:27 GMT 3
Thank you b6k,This point you raise is a point I was planning to examine in some detail elsewhere, namely at the ‘’What options Uhuru Muigai thread’’. Uhuru Kenyatta, in my estimation, can successfully be projected as a representative case, as the ideological personification of the peak of comprador evolution in modern Africa/Kenya. , samahani sana for chasing you out of the pub prematurely. Having read your massive missive in the Uhuru Muigai thread, all I can say is it was good you kept a clear head. Gotta digest it a couple times before responding What did the people do when the king ignored their pleas? We are told, “So when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king saying, “What portion have we in David (the king’s grandfather), neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse (King David). To your tents oh, Israel. Now see to thine own house, David.’ So the Israel departed unto their tents.” www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000099560&story_title=has-uhuru-forsaken-the-counsel-of-wise-men-to-kill-our-freedom&pageNo=2 |
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Post by kamalet on Dec 9, 2013 17:59:13 GMT 3
I think with this statement by Ruto people can stop hoping that there will be a problem and allow the dynamic duo (to quote Kibaki) to do their thing! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 12, 2013 23:23:07 GMT 3
I think with this statement by Ruto people can stop hoping that there will be a problem and allow the dynamic duo (to quote Kibaki) to do their thing! First, we will say it is just a Kenyan newspaper which is a meat rap, as major function. Which means the journalists have vocation in the meat trade. And they serve their beef with a pinch of salt. Sawa. Nevertheless, the spate of coincidences is too significant and points at a major problem. Kinyua, PM, was always Ruto’s effective replacement. Took some time for the sheep to recognise the situation --- a hyena was busy eating their fat tails from the back, but, better late than never, they have woken up and are bleating a mixed sound. Simmering discontent. Is that not too alarmist? Well, not quite if you consider this To say thank You? After an impromptu meeting of over 50 MPs. It is not exactly panic football, but it is definitely otherwise there will be a major crisis. How about Ruto’s earlier denial [yesterday] and the denouncement of ‘’junior politicians’’? Well, he just had to say something to fill the airwaves, din’t he? A politician, he needed not believe even himself. Raising the issue of ‘’unscrupulous contracting’’, inflating the Price for the Standard Gauge Railway --SGR, and pinpointing other loopholes for scam in the same, are qualified as DISLOYALTY TO WILLIAM RUTO? That one I will let pass. It must have been an overenthusiastic and sycophantic assistant who hinted that. Ruto himself would be smart enough to know, that it was Arap Moi in his tenure who demanded 100% loyalty as he run the economy aground with large scale theft and mismanagement. And what a great public jubilation it was when NARC got rid of him, after that Kibaki Tosha bullsh!t. Ruto is too astute to be that stupid. He has to consider the possibility of a parliamentary inquiry into the tendering of the SGR contracts at a later date. A new Anglo-leasing? Career killer of sorts. |
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Post by podp on Dec 16, 2013 14:39:40 GMT 3
Keter is a close ally of deputy president while the governors –Ruto and Prof Paul Chepkwony ( Kericho)- are seen as independent minded leaders who do not necessarily suck-up to the deputy president. However, the two Governors have since elbowed their way into the planning for the meeting and brought on board members of the county assemblies and elders from Nakuru, Kericho, Bomet and Narok counties. The governors are also demanding that the protocol issues must be observed with the governors being the ones to welcome and invite the president and his deputy to address the people. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000100208&story_title=uhuru-to-skip-bomet-in-tour-of-south-riftwe get more petty or is it divided every other day. imagine a trip to CORDed areas during the past vote, for example Western, how the above may play down to clan levels! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 21, 2013 8:59:02 GMT 3
Keter is a close ally of deputy president while the governors –Ruto and Prof Paul Chepkwony ( Kericho)- are seen as independent minded leaders who do not necessarily suck-up to the deputy president. However, the two Governors have since elbowed their way into the planning for the meeting and brought on board members of the county assemblies and elders from Nakuru, Kericho, Bomet and Narok counties. The governors are also demanding that the protocol issues must be observed with the governors being the ones to welcome and invite the president and his deputy to address the people. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000100208&story_title=uhuru-to-skip-bomet-in-tour-of-south-riftwe get more petty or is it divided every other day. imagine a trip to CORDed areas during the past vote, for example Western, how the above may play down to clan levels! On the continuing story, the soul-searching in the Rift Valley and winds of dissent. As I hold this in mind: (The maximalist approach would probably be something like the violently unraveling pact within the SPLA/SPLM which goes back to 2005 when Riek Machar came back into the fold of Salva Kiir's predecessor John Garang, so that the South could team a joint front against the North) Now, this impromptu thank-you tour mounted by the president and his duty to quell dissent in the Rift: ---Did it succeed to pour water on the embers and construct a fire-trail? The currently fiery young MP of Nandi Hills, Alfred Keter does not think so. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Uhuru-Rift-tour-failed-says-Keter/-/1064/2117978/-/ggygwsz/-/index.htmlSo what is he all about? For the moment he looks like the solitary mad man who points to the emperor in his birthday suit and shouts: ‘’Haha, that is a limp willy! Our naked N-hero!’’ (Were it not that we gather he received wild cheers from the crowd as he served his beef, or should we paraphrase to as he wagged his cheeky finger at Uhuruto's naked beef?Official Jubilee reaction is interesting: 1. This rift which is so hot in some peoples heads, is a product of Medialand fantasies gone wild. 2. Keter is a hired hand, a pawn of corrupt business men who failed to get tenders. President Uhuru said as much. And See what these cartels are allegedly up to according to Maina Kamanda (Starehe) in the parliamentary transport committee. www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Rail-tender-cartels-rock-Jubilee/-/1064/2116540/-/yuj432/-/index.html 3 Keter and co are young upstarts. Patience required of them to jisomesha, others please be wise and do not listen! 4 At the Historic Kapkatet, he was banished to the back! That is a hit at excommunication  .But here is the constituency which is being excommunicated. (Will it smoulder and simmer on?) That is the sentiment DP William Ruto, a the historic Kapkatet stadium, sought to relegate to the backyards. Ksh. 400 billion graft? To know the truth about this figure, I will test the technocrat Dr. Henry Rotich, the cabinet secretary for finance. He knows about ‘’calculation models’’ in econometrics which could give credence or fault this claim. But the doc tends to be absent from duty just when you need him. Permanent strike may be! Fwacka learnt from the brillant Saitoti of the Goldenberg Anglo-leasing blindspot, and Saitoti of course studied the tenure of the genius Mwai Kibaki. All these heroes could never get a damn sum correct. Great minds succumbed to graft tend to be less than great! And that is a minimalist evaluation! For the maximum import, ach, fellas, it is Xmas season! Cheers! |
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Post by kamalet on Dec 21, 2013 13:38:55 GMT 3
Jakaswanga
The problem faced by the. Baby faced Ketter is that he has already been outed for inexplicable financial largesse that he has been dishing out including chopper trips the older politicians cannot afford. Fingers has been pointed out to possible financiers and that will be his undoing. Uhuru and Ruto are products of Moi and the recent debate on how Moi did Waruru Kanja in with a dubious forex case should just remind you what they are capable of. Ketter will very soon see his wrong ways and do not be surprised of claims of "mademoni" resurfacing!!!
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Post by podp on Dec 21, 2013 20:42:48 GMT 3
Jakaswanga The problem faced by the. Baby faced Ketter is that he has already been outed for inexplicable financial largesse that he has been dishing out including chopper trips the older politicians cannot afford. Fingers has been pointed out to possible financiers and that will be his undoing. Uhuru and Ruto are products of Moi and the recent debate on how Moi did Waruru Kanja in with a dubious forex case should just remind you what they are capable of. Ketter will very soon see his wrong ways and do not be surprised of claims of "mademoni" resurfacing!!! this guy could have a point or may be not, given that Kenya is not only made up of the people of Nandi but also the forgotten Northern Kenya people. The very best way to deal or handle such a leader is to give him a high position with a very tough responsibility. Then his performance can be gauged and his mission can be evaluated by the people. People like him are the only one that bring change, either positive or negative. He deserves a chance. All I hope is that he will not stir anger and hatred among people. Long live my dear country! may her people enjoy the fruit of their labour. www.nation.co.ke/news/34-year-old-MP-giving-Jubilee-sleepless-nights/-/1056/2120718/-/biks8v/-/index.htmlthe above is one of the 18 comments on the lead story. even if he does a MdVd just like that you sure will have rise of an alternative or fall back to a relic as has happened in Bungoma. |
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Post by podp on Dec 22, 2013 10:22:14 GMT 3
People from TNA have landed jobs in Government. Jane Waikenda was appointed Director of Immigration; John Mututho, Nacada: Lee Kinyanjui, National Transport and Safety Authority; Joseph Kinyua, the Head of Civil Service and many others. This made us realise that we are being shortchanged. The deal was 50:50 not just for Cabinet Secretaries and Permanent Secretaries but for all other appointments. I don’t mean to say that URP belongs to a certain community but the two parties have a say when it comes to decision making. When it comes to development, the government clearly favours other regions leaving out others. That was not part of the agreement and it is totally unacceptable. Tell us about alleged corruption in the procurement for the standard gauge railway I had issues with the standard gauge railway because I discovered that it is a scandal worth Anglo Leasing and Goldenberg scandals combined. The money involved is about Sh1.3 trillion plus interest because it is a loan. If we engage in that contract, government will without doubt lose about Sh400 billion. I have equally raised concerns over the cost of building a one-kilometre railway which is two million dollars but they are proposing six million dollars meaning Kenyans will lose four million dollars per kilometre. The biggest undoing is not about the money involved in the process but the manner in which the whole process was done. The tendering procedures are in law and it states clearly that any amount exceeding Sh500,000 must be subjected to a competitive tendering process which did not happen for this particular case. The Chinese government and our government are going into a government-government agreement which in procurement is not an issue. But still, you cannot avoid the tendering issue, you must follow procedure. Government should have allowed a competitive a tendering process to take place but instead it only allowed Chinese contractors to compete because all of them are funded by the Chinese government. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000100610&story_title=keter-tna-has-short-changed-ruto-s-party |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Dec 23, 2013 19:29:04 GMT 3
I LOVE THIS THREAD!
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Post by podp on Jan 4, 2014 10:42:20 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, please don't fall under the general fallacy that Uhuru is motivated to act only on things ICC. If you take a look at the dairy industry for example you will find that he is an extremely driven man, albeit with a little help from his younger brother, Muhoho. Over the last few months, Brookside Dairy has purchased (controlling) shares in almost all large private milk packaging companies in the nation. Brookside is in effect creating a monopsony (a market where there is only one buyer) in the market. This does not bode well for Kenya's dairy farmers. Let them sell to KCC you say. Well, being el presidente, don't you think Uhuru can pull some strings behind the scenes to make sure that the para-statal toes the line? The tendering concerns are informed by a comparative analysis of the railway projects being undertaken by Kenya and Ethiopia. While the Kenyan one is of inferior technology and covering half the distance Ethiopia is constructing, it was expected to cost the government $3.804 billion (Sh334.8 billion) compared with $3.9 billion (Sh343.2 billion) used by Ethiopia. The documents further show the locomotives and rolling stocks that include 56 diesel locomotives, 1,620 freight wagons, 40 passenger coaches and one simulator would have cost $1.147 billion (Sh100.936 billion). The Ethiopian locomotives and rolling stocks consisting 35 electric locomotives, six diesel shunting locomotives, 1,100 freight wagons, 30 passenger coaches and one simulator will cost $230 million (Sh20.24 billion). Construction of the 485km Kenyan railway will require $2.657 billion (Sh233.816 billion) compared with Ethiopia’s budget of $3.67 billion (Sh322.96 billion) to build 756km from Addis Ababa to Djibouti port on the Red Sea coast. www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000101450/why-rail-project-could-be-kenya-s-biggest-scandal-yetafter successfully commissioning the above LAPPSET is next! smart moves. |
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Post by kamalet on Jan 4, 2014 11:03:53 GMT 3
Did we not hear how Ruto had no influence over the Kalenjin prior to the elections from your lot here in Jukwaa and when the inevitable happened some of you run off with tails (no pun intended) between your legs? Those hoping for a neutering of Ruto by the baby faced politician ....or the Hague, have a long wait! |
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Post by kamalet on Jan 4, 2014 11:05:43 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, please don't fall under the general fallacy that Uhuru is motivated to act only on things ICC. If you take a look at the dairy industry for example you will find that he is an extremely driven man, albeit with a little help from his younger brother, Muhoho. Over the last few months, Brookside Dairy has purchased (controlling) shares in almost all large private milk packaging companies in the nation. Brookside is in effect creating a monopsony (a market where there is only one buyer) in the market. This does not bode well for Kenya's dairy farmers. Let them sell to KCC you say. Well, being el presidente, don't you think Uhuru can pull some strings behind the scenes to make sure that the para-statal toes the line? The tendering concerns are informed by a comparative analysis of the railway projects being undertaken by Kenya and Ethiopia. While the Kenyan one is of inferior technology and covering half the distance Ethiopia is constructing, it was expected to cost the government $3.804 billion (Sh334.8 billion) compared with $3.9 billion (Sh343.2 billion) used by Ethiopia. The documents further show the locomotives and rolling stocks that include 56 diesel locomotives, 1,620 freight wagons, 40 passenger coaches and one simulator would have cost $1.147 billion (Sh100.936 billion). The Ethiopian locomotives and rolling stocks consisting 35 electric locomotives, six diesel shunting locomotives, 1,100 freight wagons, 30 passenger coaches and one simulator will cost $230 million (Sh20.24 billion). Construction of the 485km Kenyan railway will require $2.657 billion (Sh233.816 billion) compared with Ethiopia’s budget of $3.67 billion (Sh322.96 billion) to build 756km from Addis Ababa to Djibouti port on the Red Sea coast. www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000101450/why-rail-project-could-be-kenya-s-biggest-scandal-yetafter successfully commissioning the above LAPPSET is next! smart moves. Podp Do you for a moment stop to wonder why our Official Opposition has not taken up this matter and made political capital of it? That is why Keter has a problem that will unmake him politically! For the sake of clarity, you should have also attached the response from Transport PSexplaining the difference in costs. The 100 Kilometre viaduct makes it quite expensive! |
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Post by enigma on Jan 4, 2014 15:12:47 GMT 3
Kamalet,
Could you for a moment take your head out of your ass, or your ass out of your head before you post next time. This point you just made is good bar talk for 3 am in a dingy pub somewhere in Nyeri perhaps?
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Post by kamalet on Jan 4, 2014 22:45:45 GMT 3
Kamalet, Could you for a moment take your head out of your ass, or your ass out of your head before you post next time. This point you just made is good bar talk for 3 am in a dingy pub somewhere in Nyeri perhaps? Enigma Welcome back!You certainly have had no mental improvement since you were last in Jukwaa especially when you cannot even tell what normally would get into another. But then you never improve and everytime you visit Jukwaa points at one who has missed his daily dosage of drugs that keep him silly. With Alcoblow, no one is in any pub at 3 am and am a born and bred kabete man and certainly not from the other side of the river chania......but why bother, you are too daft to know what I am talking about! |
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Post by mank on Jan 4, 2014 23:20:54 GMT 3
Kamalet, Could you for a moment take your head out of your ass, or your ass out of your head before you post next time. This point you just made is good bar talk for 3 am in a dingy pub somewhere in Nyeri perhaps? Enigma Welcome back!You certainly have had no mental improvement since you were last in Jukwaa especially when you cannot even tell what normally would get into another. But then you never improve and everytime you visit Jukwaa points at one who has missed his daily dosage of drugs that keep him silly. With Alcoblow, no one is in any pub at 3 am and am a born and bred kabete man and certainly not from the other side of the river chania......but why bother, you are too daft to know what I am talking about! I almost wrote that as response. Only that I decided not to rob a perfectly capable Kamali of a response. I have seen the same line by Enigma before. It gives the impression of a very acrobatic man - enigma. |
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Post by podp on Jan 5, 2014 9:04:41 GMT 3
Podp Do you for a moment stop to wonder why our Official Opposition has not taken up this matter and made political capital of it?
That is why Keter has a problem that will unmake him politically! For the sake of clarity, you should have also attached the response from Transport PSexplaining the difference in costs. The 100 Kilometre viaduct makes it quite expensive! 1st red high light our opposition is still reeling from the effects of nusu mkate and not playing its rightful place as they still have a sizeable number of their brigade still embedded in crucial institutions. the story below shows there is no difference between Jubilee and CORD leadership as concerns having their own at the trough www.nation.co.ke/news/Raila-backs-Uhuru-on-Muthaura-job/-/1056/2134756/-/13ms4q7z/-/index.html2nd red high light among the reactions to the link you provided, Masumbi did comment on the above saying... This guy is just throwing technical jargon at us hoping that we will swallow it because we do not want to expose our ignorance about railway construction. I belief that the construction cost of a kilometer of rail or road is an average figure which takes into account all the complexities and luck there of. An accurate and honest assessment of Ethiopia vs Kenya cost can only be verified by an independent expert and not an administrator who has self interest in the project's costing and success. The difference in cost between the two projects is so vast as to be explained by complexity if you accept the explanation at face value. I do not know what he is talking about. Need an impartial expert's opinion. |
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Jukwaa. When I am forced to cut down to the chase, quit the bar early, while I was still planning to meander a bit, throwing stones at this and that glass window before blowing the front door to bits! But there was you! you blew the picture wide, ambushing me at the bar and forcing me to press, half a glass in my hand!! –Dammn you!
(he a good candidate for a Cyber ICC if one is ever launched, our Stalinist administrator!]
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