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Post by reporter911 on Nov 24, 2010 0:07:50 GMT 3
NEW FACE OF "KKK" ALLIANCE MINUS RUTO NOW CONFIRMEDThe Party of National Unity plan for the Kibaki succession has been revealed by a group of the President’s supporters. Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta, Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka and Internal Security Minister George Saitoti, all presumed presidential candidates, will fight it out for the ticket of the pro-Kibaki party.The candidate chosen is expected to face off with the Orange Democratic Movement, led by Prime Minister Raila Odinga, in the presidential election now two years away. Mr Kibaki has served two terms and is ineligible for re-election. Mr Kenyatta of Kanu, PNU’s Prof Saitoti and Mr Musyoka of ODM-K have agreed to compete against each other in a primary election to pick the presidential torchbearer. The plan was revealed by Mr Kenyatta on Monday when he hosted 600 councillors from Central Kenya and parts of the Rift Valley in his rural home in Ichaweri Village, Gatundu.
According to those who attended the meeting, which was closed to the media, Mr Kenyatta, also the Finance minister, declared that he would go for the presidency through a competitive nomination process in which he will face Mr Musyoka and Prof Saitoti.The candidate will be picked by delegates drawn from their parties who will have come together under the PNU umbrella. On Tuesday, Energy minister Kiraitu Murungi, the PNU secretary-general and the driver of the plan, said the three leaders held talks and agreed to hold joint nominations and field one candidate. “We have met them (VP Musyoka, Mr Kenyatta and Prof Saitoti) and from the PNU side we think the only way for us is to have one candidate who will fight it out with others from other parties,” he said.
Mr Murungi said they arrived at the strategy in a bid to overcome the problems their party faced before and after the December 2007 elections. He said they no longer wanted to become victims “of confusion and paralysis” which takes ages to sort out, giving advantage to their competitors. “We cannot continue with this confusion that has really affected us. The paralysis has cost us and we want to solve it once and for all,” he said. Perhaps, he was referring to the wrangles among PNU affiliate parties, which delayed decision-making and unity in Parliament. While Narc Kenya chaired by Gichugu MP Martha Karua has outrightly delinked itself from the PNU coalition, other parties such as Ford Kenya, Democratic Party and Safina are rebuilding themselves in readiness to form new alliances come the next elections. On Tuesday, Mr Murungi extended the olive branch to the dissenting parties and urged them to present their candidates for the nomination process that will take place before the elections. “We welcome Martha Karua, Peter Kenneth and anybody else from the PNU coalition to join the race for the flag bearer. All of them will be given an equal chance and we urge the public to choose the best,” he said.
Contacted, Mr Musyoka’s office referred the Daily Nation to Kangundo MP Johnston Muthama who confirmed the pact. “It is not beneficial if Uhuru, Saitoti, Kalonzo or (deputy Prime Minister Musalia) Mudavadi go it alone. We are encouraging them to come together,” he said. Mr Murungi spoke on behalf of Prof Saitoti, who is attending an Intergovernment Authority on Development (Igad) meeting in Ethiopia. This means that the People’s Progressive Movement (PPM), which the PNU bigwigs announced earlier in the year in Naivasha with much gusto was a still-born and has quickly been buried. Those who attended the meeting in Gatundu said the revelation by Mr Kenyatta was a climax of a series of meetings and consultations that leaders have been holding towards a single presidential candidate, come 2012. The Gatundu sources said Mr Kenyatta, who is also the Kanu national chairman, hosted the councillors, mainly from Central Kenya and the Kikuyu Diaspora, following growing concerns about his silence on whether he is interested in running for the country’s top job. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Saitoti%20Kalonzo%20and%20Uhuru%20strike%20poll%20pact%20/-/1064/1059244/-/j81gm9z/-/index.html
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Post by adongo23456 on Nov 24, 2010 6:11:47 GMT 3
hehehehehe
And the three amigos think this is news. How many times have they repeated the same crap. You hold a thousand of these meetings and make announcements everyday but when push comes to shove it is game time and we know the script. I don't know why the Daily Nation thinks Kenyans are even interested in hearing this stuff.
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Post by shifta on Nov 24, 2010 6:52:12 GMT 3
How many revelations does it take to get it right? Weren't we told no Uhuru no support by the same folks? This is the easy part, the hard part willl be deciding to take a calculated risk i.e run for presidemcy and get in or run and miss out on being MP, or even cabinet since you are at the mercy of the winner. This katiba permutation is driving these guys crazy. The days of triple dipping ati mara Mp and cabinet or even nominated MP and cabinet are gone - hallelujah.
So Uhuru is saying ati if he loses he will rallly his troops behind Kalonzo (yeah, right!). It is easy for Kalonzo to do so but there is no history of the reverse. As for Saitoti he has no coat leave alone coat-tails, he had to be rigged in as MP, so what national following? Na arap Samoei yuko wapi?
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Post by politicalmaniac on Nov 24, 2010 7:40:29 GMT 3
Which part of the triple "K" does muthengi bring to the table?
jomo jnr seems to give the impression that he has sorted out his PEV problems, and their jettisoning of ruto so quickly seems to imply that ruto is in real dodo, and they cannot rely on him.
ruto better get some legal help with real chops, as his team looks completely lost.
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Post by mosop on Nov 24, 2010 7:55:10 GMT 3
Uhuru invites councillors for 'strategy' talks
By Wairimu Kamande and Boniface Gikandi
Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta met councillors from Rift Valley, Central and Eastern provinces in what was seen as a strategy ahead of the 2012 polls.
The meeting caused fresh suspicion the much talked about ‘KKK alliance’ could be in the making.
Those who attended from Rift Valley were from Nakuru, Uasin Gishu and Kericho counties, areas perceived to be suspended Higher Education Minister William Ruto’s strongholds.
The Monday meeting lasted up to 8pm at a venue where only "wanted guests" were allowed in.
None of the venues could be more ideal than his rural home of Ichaweri in Gatundu under the guard of the General Service Unit officers.
Little public activity, especially political, has been known to take place at the place since the death of Uhuru’s father and first President Jomo Kenyatta.
This was the older Kenyatta’s preferred place for delegations but since his demise, little political activity has been witnessed there, possibly until yesterday when Uhuru met the councillors.
Members of the Press who showed up were locked out and had to wait for hours, without any word on what was going on at the meeting.
Even councillors, who lacked identification cards, were not allowed into the compound.
Apart from the councillors, others who attended were Kikuyu MP Lewis Nguyai — who coincidentally is Local Government Assistant minister, under whose docket the councillors fall — and Ndaragwa MP Jeremiah Kioni.
No word
The latter, however, did not wait for the meeting to end as he drove out without a word to waiting journalists.
When they finally walked out of the compound, the civic leaders were edgy and declined to disclose details of the meeting that begun at 9am.
But some civic leaders who later spoke to The Standard on condition of anonymity said Uhuru had sought their support as he prepares for a second stab at the presidency.
Sources claimed Uhuru had welcomed competition from other leaders wishing to go for the same post, but stressed that his wish was that the Central Kenya region produce one candidate.
"He has no problem with any other candidate entering the race but wishes that the community unites in one party and then by voting, nominate a candidate," said a Thika councillor, who declined to be named.
Another leader from Nyeri added: "We also discussed about reaching out to leaders in other regions".
"We talked about unity," said Mbeere County Council Chairman Issah Ngunia.
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Post by phil on Nov 24, 2010 9:15:12 GMT 3
This alliance lacks any visible ideology and is bound to fail before they start. It is an alliance singularly premised on stopping Raila and not knowing what to offer after doing that.
It's really a pity that clueless KANU era politicians are now impressing unity upon a people who have always been politically united and voted in unison.
It is also ironical that these indivudals are themselves disunited, each leading their own political tribal and nondescript regional outfits, yet they have the audacity to preach unity to people who have always been in one political basket.
Ask Uhuru Kenyatta - he who betrayed the opposition in the 9th parliament - to unite KANU first before he attempts to unite GEMA. Kalonzo should also publicly confess his personal role in subverting the orange dream and why there exists two Orange parties before he pretends that he wants to compete in democratic primaries alongside others.
One more thing. Raila is only being falsely used as a pawn in community political differences that run much deeper than 2007/8. Who does not know the genesis of the differences between GEMA and Kalenjin?
People may call Raila names and vote whichever way they wish, but the bottomline is that however much you try you can never mix OIL and WATER. And if you 'successfully' do, what makes you think that ODM cannot similarly co-operate with KANU-B, FORD-K, NARC-K, FORD-P and others?
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Post by kamalet on Nov 24, 2010 10:04:57 GMT 3
This alliance lacks any visible ideology and is bound to fail before they start. It is an alliance singularly premised on stopping Raila and not knowing what to offer after doing that. It's really a pity that clueless KANU era politicians are now impressing unity upon a people who have always been politically united and voted in unison. It is also ironical that these indivudals are themselves disunited, each leading their own political tribal and nondescript regional outfits, yet they have the audacity to preach unity to people who have always been in one political basket. Ask Uhuru Kenyatta - he who betrayed the opposition in the 9th parliament - to unite KANU first before he attempts to unite GEMA. Kalonzo should also publicly confess his personal role in subverting the orange dream and why there exists two Orange parties before he pretends that he wants to compete in democratic primaries alongside others. One more thing. Raila is only being falsely used as a pawn in community political differences that run much deeper than 2007/8. Who does not know the genesis of the differences between GEMA and Kalenjin? People may call Raila names and vote whichever way they wish, but the bottomline is that however much you try you can never mix OIL and WATER. And if you 'successfully' do, what makes you think that ODM cannot similarly co-operate with KANU-B, FORD-K, NARC-K, FORD-P and others? You get it right and then start moaning? Of course it is an alliance against Raila and not an alliance for Kenya! Many want him stopped at whatever cost and the more they push him to a corner by collecting the largest tribal alliance, then this draws up the smaller ones and the end result is leave Raila at the corner covering his privates after being stripped of his politival clothing! Just did anyone think that the tribe would ever move away?
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Post by phil on Nov 24, 2010 11:10:24 GMT 3
You get it right and then start moaning? Of course it is an alliance against Raila and not an alliance for Kenya! Many want him stopped at whatever cost and the more they push him to a corner by collecting the largest tribal alliance, then this draws up the smaller ones and the end result is leave Raila at the corner covering his privates after being stripped of his politival clothing! Just did anyone think that the tribe would ever move away? Bullsh!t. We shall see just how many you are to stop him at whatever cost. Havent you and your friends not all been doing that, erecting roadblocks for the last 30 odd years? Any success worth reporting here?
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Post by nereah on Nov 24, 2010 11:27:14 GMT 3
allow me to throw in my pesa nane.read somewhere yesterday that it may be just a matter of time before one gideon moi is popularly elevated to the chairmanship of kenya's oldest political party, kanu. i also read that gideon is poised to cause a major upset in kalenjin country if he succeeds in taking over the party that the kalenjins internalised as their own for close to quarter a century.
information from wairimu kamanda and boniface gikandi as posted by mosop also makes interesting reading and widens the maxtrix. lets watch gideon and his dad.that is where the fate of kkk lies.
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Post by roughrider on Nov 24, 2010 12:36:50 GMT 3
Some quick points;
1. The emerging problem for the GOP in the US is that Sarah Palin, with Tea Party support, can easily win Republican presidential nomination. But she is also the candidate that would be easily white washed by Barrack Obama in a general election. The parallel in Kenya is that Uhuru Kenyatta might easily win nomination against Saitoti, Kalonzo, Ruto... but he will easily be defeated by Raila Odinga in a general election.
2. The KKK should stop organizing around the 'ganging up to defeat Raila scenario'. It is NOT good for the country and it tribalizes things. They should instead declare what policies they stand for.
3. Is PNU still a party of parties? Or is PNU a party? As we all understand several PNU affiliates have declared they 'will go it alone'. DP, Kanu, NARC-K, GNU etc. Further it is highly irregular and undesirable for a contender to be announcing the plan and the startegy. Who is the neutral arbiter that will run PNU elections?
4. Finally, this is a red- herring really. Some of these politicians are spoeaking from both sides of the mouth.
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Post by kamalet on Nov 24, 2010 12:57:19 GMT 3
You get it right and then start moaning? Of course it is an alliance against Raila and not an alliance for Kenya! Many want him stopped at whatever cost and the more they push him to a corner by collecting the largest tribal alliance, then this draws up the smaller ones and the end result is leave Raila at the corner covering his privates after being stripped of his politival clothing! Just did anyone think that the tribe would ever move away? Bullsh!t. We shall see just how many you are to stop him at whatever cost. Havent you and your friends not all been doing that, erecting roadblocks for the last 30 odd years? Any success worth reporting here? Phil here is something you can take to the bank: Raila just like his father will NEVER be president of this country. Please remind me in January 2013 and if I am wrong, I shall write 100 lines each with a word of praise for our new leader! I will not even bother asking you to meet me up on this challenge! Kamale
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Post by nereah on Nov 24, 2010 13:05:16 GMT 3
rr, cant agree more. the problem with poorly organized and even in some instances effectively organized political groupings, is the failure or plain refusal to learn from history.
we must respect raila amollo odinga,egh,mp, for being a good student of political history and edifying his fellow compatriots.were it not for hearkening to the lessons learnt in 1992,1997,we would be talking different story today. did i also mention mwai kibaki then a perennial presidential loser,wamalwa kijana and mama ngilu for closing the ranks as nak party ahead of the 2002 elections?
see the mistake tanzanian cuf and chadema and minion parties like that of augustine mrema made in recent election? it is the same mistake that olara otunnu,basigye and five others are busy makng in uganda.
for kenya, i think raila led initiative in 2002 has set the benchmarks and there is no going back.interesting to note that even his opponents admit that the only strategy is to gang up to deny him the requisite block votes.
indeed whispers in nairobi's high end streets has it that one of the reasons mama ngilu is being fought is because there are those who believe she may have "amassed" wealth for her presidential campaigns and more so her exist will be advantageous to this kkk plot.
just before i hit the road to work, may i say, as our adongo, reminded us a couple of months ago, that between now and next summer, the matrix may change dramatically and its therefore too early to say who will give agwambo the run for his money.
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Post by phil on Nov 24, 2010 13:23:42 GMT 3
Bullsh!t. We shall see just how many you are to stop him at whatever cost. Havent you and your friends not all been doing that, erecting roadblocks for the last 30 odd years? Any success worth reporting here? Phil here is something you can take to the bank: Raila just like his father will NEVER be president of this country. Please remind me in January 2013 and if I am wrong, I shall write 100 lines each with a word of praise for our new leader! I will not even bother asking you to meet me up on this challenge! Kamale Too late and too weak an excuse. Perhaps this is why we have a coalition government, is that not so Kamale? Is this why we were forced in 2007 to kidnap the former ECK Chairman at gunpoint in the dead of the night and force him to announce fictitious presidential results? Is this why after a civilian coup, one Mwai Kibaki had to be sworn in at dusk? Bure kabisa hawa wezi wa kura. For me, it does not matter whether Raila becomes president or not. Let the elections winner win fairly. And that transparency and fairness will be delivered to kenyans come 2012. It may or may not be Raila.
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Post by tom on Nov 24, 2010 14:17:14 GMT 3
You get it right and then start moaning? Of course it is an alliance against Raila and not an alliance for Kenya! Many want him stopped at whatever cost and the more they push him to a corner by collecting the largest tribal alliance, then this draws up the smaller ones and the end result is leave Raila at the corner covering his privates after being stripped of his politival clothing! Just did anyone think that the tribe would ever move away? Kamale, The last time I read that statement in red a terrible and horrendous war befell our country thereafter. Do you mind telling wana Jukwaa what you are hinting at with that line? Haven't we not learnt anything from our past? Can we still afford such talk even when our brothers and sisters still dwell in tents? Why are we hell-bent on daring the gods of war even when our wounds are still bandaged? The cost of stopping Raila may not be anything to you, but to those who care about the plight fellow Kenyans, it is, because they pay with their lives. We must move away from such rugged thoughts.
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Post by shifta on Nov 24, 2010 18:27:49 GMT 3
Reporter and Phil and others: The main threat to the KKK alliance is not Raila or Karua but the nomination process. Will PNU go for a) a nation wide primary - a task it does not have the electoral infrastructure for b) delegate voting - a process riddled with corruption and vote buying c) consensus, a process Kalonzo poured cold water on last time, surely he will not settle for it this time.
Now that they have identified their goal, how do they bell this cat?
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Post by phil on Nov 24, 2010 18:35:50 GMT 3
Reporter and Phil and others: The main threat to the KKK alliance is not Raila or Karua but the nomination process. Will PNU go for a) a nation wide primary - a task it does not have the electoral infrastructure for b) delegate voting - a process riddled with corruption and vote buying c) consensus, a process Kalonzo poured cold water on last time, surely he will not settle for it this time. Now that they have identified their goal, how do they bell this cat? None of the above. As I was telling Kamale, how will Uhuru, for instance, convince the KANU NEC that the best way back to power is through joint participation in primaries? Is Uhuru's place in KANU guaranteed? What about Kalonzo, what is he delivering tothe KKK table because certainly it is not numbers. Is Kalonzo with his meagre controbution ready to play second actually third fiddle (after equally egoistic Ruto and a partyless Uhuru) and after having come so close to the price when slipped between Raila and Kibaki the last time? Even if the somewhat agreed to back one of their own through consensus or whatever primary, is it guaranteed that their communities will back them up? Let's discuss reality.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Nov 24, 2010 19:00:36 GMT 3
Again are the right questions being asked?
Of what use is it for the "K"component from RV to vote with kina jomo jnr? Arent these the same same folks who stole their land? Has the land conundrum been solved? There are some things that cant be white washed and papered over, however sexy it may seem
As phil said what will be the ideology for this alliance? Will it be able to give a road map to solve the hard questions that made the RV vote go ODM in 2002?
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Post by gachquota on Nov 24, 2010 20:51:53 GMT 3
The jogoo party what can I say endelea kujikaanga kwa mafuta yao wenyewe lol!
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Post by Titchaz on Nov 25, 2010 6:31:57 GMT 3
The jogoo party what can I say endelea kujikaanga kwa mafuta yao wenyewe lol! Hahaha...mkuu Gachquota kuna samtaimz unanijazz na comments zako aisee!!!...Mafuta ya KANU by now yamebadilika rangi kinoma kweli utadhani yametumika kupika makaa! KANU started cooking itself a long time ago
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Post by Titchaz on Nov 25, 2010 6:46:45 GMT 3
You get it right and then start moaning? Of course it is an alliance against Raila and not an alliance for Kenya! Many want him stopped at whatever cost and the more they push him to a corner by collecting the largest tribal alliance, then this draws up the smaller ones and the end result is leave Raila at the corner covering his privates after being stripped of his politival clothing! Just did anyone think that the tribe would ever move away? Kamale, The last time I read that statement in red a terrible and horrendous war befell our country thereafter. Do you mind telling wana Jukwaa what you are hinting at with that line? Haven't we not learnt anything from our past? Can we still afford such talk even when our brothers and sisters still dwell in tents? Why are we hell-bent on daring the gods of war even when our wounds are still bandaged? The cost of stopping Raila may not be anything to you, but to those who care about the plight fellow Kenyans, it is, because they pay with their lives. We must move away from such rugged thoughts. ..Well said tom.....that goes to show you how these so called leaders and their cheerleaders are selfish...they will kill their own and let them be murdered too...all in the name of preventing Raila from being P.O.R.K. Kisha when they have the power to at least help their people out, they negelect them living in refugee camps. Washindwe!
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Nov 25, 2010 10:23:40 GMT 3
Saitoti, Kilonzo and Uhuru alliance is visible political force with which to reckon. One does not need ideology to share in alliance. As long they have an agreed objective to achieve and an outcome to reach, they stand a good chance to succeed. All they need to do is bring together their communities to vote in unison and kaboom Raila is history. As for their own unity, yes they have a unity of purpose – a foremost reason to be united.
I agree and many Kenyan will that they may have not achieved anything individually, but so is their comparator – Raila. His opportunistic mentality is now becoming an irritation. It seems to me he is in the coalition govt to serve his ‘local’ master – Kibaki whom is very keen to defend in Parliament, whilst at the same time working hard to please his foreign masters. One needs to look at his utterances against Omar Al Bashir, yet his shameful silence on Uganda’s Kony, both wanted by the ICC - under warrant of arrest.
1. Raila is now defending drug barons in Parliament.
2. Raila’s nepotism, tribalism, and favouritism is legendary.
3. Raila’s grandiose nonsense are embarrassing – remember his request for France to establish nuclear technology in Kenya. This is ‘an engineer’ who should know Kenya cannot make even a bicycle, why not ask for technology to make bicycle knowing that it will benefit mostly his tribesmen who are prominent ‘boda-boda’ operatives.
4. Raila unfinished ‘tasks’ declared to the nation is national hazard.
a. He knew he could not ‘reclaim’ Mau from the mighty land baron but went ahead to uprooted peasant Kalenjins from Mau to please his foreign ‘masters’.
b. During his tenure as a Road Minister, his grand Nairobi by-pass ideas were only used to demolish houses of people he perceived to be his political enemies without building any such by-pass.
c. His defence of Majiwa, Ngilu, Nyon’go and Koskey while casting aspersions against others for his selfish political gain.
d. His promised to help build communal pit latrines during his election campaigns in Kibera. Shamefully, his constituents still use ‘flying toilet’. Why not invite his American ‘friends’ to help Kibera resident with toilets, roads, et cetera. The point to note is many people who voted for Raila don’t reside in Kibera, are not therefore affected by problems facing people in Kibera.
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Post by kamalet on Nov 25, 2010 10:44:19 GMT 3
Kamale, The last time I read that statement in red a terrible and horrendous war befell our country thereafter. Do you mind telling wana Jukwaa what you are hinting at with that line? Haven't we not learnt anything from our past? Can we still afford such talk even when our brothers and sisters still dwell in tents? Why are we hell-bent on daring the gods of war even when our wounds are still bandaged? The cost of stopping Raila may not be anything to you, but to those who care about the plight fellow Kenyans, it is, because they pay with their lives. We must move away from such rugged thoughts. ..Well said tom.....that goes to show you how these so called leaders and their cheerleaders are selfish...they will kill their own and let them be murdered too...all in the name of preventing Raila from being P.O.R.K. Kisha when they have the power to at least help their people out, they negelect them living in refugee camps. Washindwe! Titchaz and TomYes the intention is to murder Raila's political ambition...not the man! So if they can stop Raila by creating the most ludicrous alliance - why stop them as long as they can get the Kenyans to agree with them? PhilI can see you remain hopeful as ever!! Why worry whether they can actually conjure up an alliance whilst your worry should be how Raila will indeed counter these machinations? Raila cannot sit and wait for the alliance not to happen to fight his corner unless he is a dimwit. You guys root for him and tell him what he must do rather than worry what how is detractors will fail as if that is his only hope!
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Post by roughrider on Nov 25, 2010 10:45:59 GMT 3
Seems like somebody is having some serious bout of Raila Raila Raila diarrhea. Well, it appears that one form of Raila or another will be with us for a very long time to come. Live with that or use use a spiders cobweb to hang thyself!
I can only repeat my advise to KKK - the legitimate topic of this thread - make your platform about national issues that Kenyans care about and Kenyans may be impressed. Not about a tribal gang against other tribes.
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Post by kamalet on Nov 25, 2010 10:46:14 GMT 3
Saitoti, Kilonzo and Uhuru alliance is visible political force with which to reckon. One does not need ideology to share in alliance. As long they have an agreed objective to achieve and an outcome to reach, they stand a good chance to succeed. All they need to do is bring together their communities to vote in unison and kaboom Raila is history. As for their own unity, yes they have a unity of purpose – a foremost reason to be united. I agree and many Kenyan will that they may have not achieved anything individually, but so is their comparator – Raila. His opportunistic mentality is now becoming an irritation. It seems to me he is in the coalition govt to serve his ‘local’ master – Kibaki whom is very keen to defend in Parliament, whilst at the same time working hard to please his foreign masters. One needs to look at his utterances against Omar Al Bashir, yet his shameful silence on Uganda’s Kony, both wanted by the ICC - under warrant of arrest. 1. Raila is now defending drug barons in Parliament. 2. Raila’s nepotism, tribalism, and favouritism is legendary. 3. Raila’s grandiose nonsense are embarrassing – remember his request for France to establish nuclear technology in Kenya. This is ‘an engineer’ who should know Kenya cannot make even a bicycle, why not ask for technology to make bicycle knowing that it will benefit mostly his tribesmen who are prominent ‘boda-boda’ operatives. 4. Raila unfinished ‘tasks’ declared to the nation is national hazard. a. He knew he could not ‘reclaim’ Mau from the mighty land baron but went ahead to uprooted peasant Kalenjins from Mau to please his foreign ‘masters’. b. During his tenure as a Road Minister, his grand Nairobi by-pass ideas were only used to demolish houses of people he perceived to be his political enemies without building any such by-pass. c. His defence of Majiwa, Ngilu, Nyon’go and Koskey while casting aspersions against others for his selfish political gain. d. His promised to help build communal pit latrines during his election campaigns in Kibera. Shamefully, his constituents still use ‘flying toilet’. Why not invite his American ‘friends’ to help Kibera resident with toilets, roads, et cetera. The point to note is many people who voted for Raila don’t reside in Kibera, are not therefore affected by problems facing people in Kibera. Sadik All I can say is that Raila would make a worse president than Moi! Nothing he starts seems to work ot get finished, and if you take the needy of Kibera whom he has led all those years and the fact their lot has not changed, then one can imagine what he would do for Kenya...if anything!
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Post by roughrider on Nov 25, 2010 10:57:52 GMT 3
Titchaz and TomYes the intention is to murder Raila's political ambition...not the man! So if they can stop Raila by creating the most ludicrous alliance - why stop them as long as they can get the Kenyans to agree with them? PhilI can see you remain hopeful as ever!! Why worry whether they can actually conjure up an alliance whilst your worry should be how Raila will indeed counter these machinations? Raila cannot sit and wait for the alliance not to happen to fight his corner unless he is a dimwit. You guys root for him and tell him what he must do rather than worry what how is detractors will fail as if that is his only hope! Kamale your intention is an interesting one. You need to talk to arap Moi who worked on it from the 1980's with terrific methodology. If I got a penny for every time somebody wrote Raila's political death, I would be a millionaire! The problem with some Kenyan politicians is their shallow understanding of the role of politics in society. They pick an 'enemy' and try to fight unto death. Smart siasa is about accommodation and interests: this, Kamale might just be the politics that wins for Kenya. Mmmm i think I should write a digital on the 2012 politics.
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