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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jun 9, 2012 14:43:45 GMT 3
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Post by kasuku on Jun 9, 2012 16:26:49 GMT 3
I know it is costly to publish a book, but is there no Kenyan book shop willing to sell the books at the beginning?
At this day i already planned to be somewhere else, but i can make arragement to come to nairobi if i can get a copy of the book
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Post by OtishOtish on Jun 9, 2012 16:32:43 GMT 3
Thank you for your support .... On Jukwaa, where people have been sharpening knives for months?
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Post by furaha on Jun 9, 2012 17:23:16 GMT 3
Thank you for your support .... On Jukwaa, where people have been sharpening knives for months? Not all have judged the book by its cover....literally. I am waiting for its content.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jun 9, 2012 19:57:16 GMT 3
Not all have judged the book by its cover....literally. I am waiting for its content. There are many for whom the detailed contents don't really matter; what matters is that they will be unfavourable to Raila. My prediction is that by the time the knives are put away, Miguna will look like a badly-made jigsaw puzzle.
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Post by mbuta on Jun 9, 2012 23:41:53 GMT 3
The Spanking of RAO has began in earnest. The things we do to remain relevant and (in)famous...
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Post by furaha on Jun 10, 2012 3:35:48 GMT 3
Not all have judged the book by its cover....literally. I am waiting for its content. There are many for whom the detailed contents don't really matter; what matters is that they will be unfavourable to Raila. My prediction is that by the time the knives are put away, Miguna will look like a badly-made jigsaw puzzle. Of course the book will have revelations about the PM and ODM. But I would not be surprised if it also reveals a lot of things that PNU would rather keep under wraps. Miguna was involved in the 2007 campaigns, in the coalition negotiations, in constitution-making and in Mutula Kilonzo's July 2009 mission to the ICC to name but a few critical chapters in Kenya's most recent history. So while all the hullaballoo around Miguna has been focused on Raila, could we soon be looking at a book that is not exclusively about Raila but that, more generally, deals with the political class and how Miguna perceives it? I do not have any advance knowledge. But when I look at Miguna's work in recent years it is clear that he knows a lot about both sides of the coalition government. Could that be the reason why both ODM and PNU have largely kept silent thusfar?
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Post by OtishOtish on Jun 10, 2012 3:54:41 GMT 3
Furaha: I think Miguna's book will provide entertainment and interesting bar-talk for a good part of the year, but I don't think it's going to be a huge political deal to either ODM or PNU. Nor will it have much of an impact on the actual business of politics in Kenya. Embarrassing to a few people? Possibly. But that's about it.
That said, while his choice of stick is one that I question---and he too might by the time Raila's supporters are done with him--I fully support Miguna's giving Raila a well-earned poke in the eye. Perhaps it will make Raila think a bit more about how he treats people and how he choses those closest to him, now (e.g. the murder-plot guys) and past (e.g. Miguna).
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jun 10, 2012 9:05:27 GMT 3
Any way Miguna could be philanthropic and patriotic enough to print enough free copies for each county?
Kenyans need a lot more such opportunities to understand these presidential candidates before they vote. If I were Raila I would be preparing to drop out of the presidential race after the release of this book.
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Post by Mr Defence on Jun 10, 2012 10:41:42 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on Jun 10, 2012 11:13:05 GMT 3
There are many for whom the detailed contents don't really matter; what matters is that they will be unfavourable to Raila. My prediction is that by the time the knives are put away, Miguna will look like a badly-made jigsaw puzzle. Of course the book will have revelations about the PM and ODM. But I would not be surprised if it also reveals a lot of things that PNU would rather keep under wraps. Miguna was involved in the 2007 campaigns, in the coalition negotiations, in constitution-making and in Mutula Kilonzo's July 2009 mission to the ICC to name but a few critical chapters in Kenya's most recent history. So while all the hullaballoo around Miguna has been focused on Raila, could we soon be looking at a book that is not exclusively about Raila but that, more generally, deals with the political class and how Miguna perceives it? I do not have any advance knowledge. But when I look at Miguna's work in recent years it is clear that he knows a lot about both sides of the coalition government. Could that be the reason why both ODM and PNU have largely kept silent thusfar? It all depends on the motivations of Miguna in writing his book. Purely from a commercial point of view his liaisons with Raila and ODM would be a lot juicier than anything he knows abou the PNU lot.
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Post by nalinali on Jun 10, 2012 12:10:57 GMT 3
Oh god Yawa. Miguna again!! Isn't the other MM substitute (Mudavadi) providing adequate, nay, satiating comic relief already?
So the earth-shaking book launch is coming to a city near you. And why bean a book launch live on major networks.
OO, make sure you read the book and fulfill your promise to tell me/us what it contains.
I consider reading anything MM directly to be a contagion.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 10, 2012 17:00:59 GMT 3
(...) Miguna was involved in the 2007 campaigns, in the coalition negotiations, in constitution-making and in Mutula Kilonzo's July 2009 mission to the ICC to name but a few critical chapters in Kenya's most recent history. So while all the hullaballoo around Miguna has been focused on Raila, could we soon be looking at a book that is not excl usively about Raila but that, more generally, deals with the political class and how Miguna perceives it? Furaha,Exactly. This is why his political memoirs would intrigue me. The Raila side hullaballoo, I would pretty much be aware of. But his take and look at the hidden political class or what you call 'critical chapters in kenya's most recent history' is the gem for me. For chaps in my trade, a ringside seat. And we are old enough to filter.
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Post by mzee on Jun 10, 2012 21:51:20 GMT 3
Any way Miguna could be philanthropic and patriotic enough to print enough free copies for each county? Kenyans need a lot more such opportunities to understand these presidential candidates before they vote. If I were Raila I would be preparing to drop out of the presidential race after the release of this book. There is nothing for free just buy the book and read it.
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Post by tnk on Jun 10, 2012 22:23:33 GMT 3
Any way Miguna could be philanthropic and patriotic enough to print enough free copies for each county? Kenyans need a lot more such opportunities to understand these presidential candidates before they vote. If I were Raila I would be preparing to drop out of the presidential race after the release of this book. There is nothing for free just buy the book and read it. unfortunately, the press for this book has presented it as "one humongous juicy gossip of epic proportions" (excuse the repetition) it has not been presented as a memoir of events from which we can glean the inner workings of the complex system defining our leadership/governance and in truth, people like gossip, it makes them feel privy to some secret knowledge, even if its in the public domain, but fact is very few really want to or will go out of their way to pay for gossip i think miguna should pay a little more attention to how this book is marketed it would help if he had a flyer on what to take away from certain select chapters and IMHO he should shy away from the gossip bits and delve on issues such as positive steps/initiatives, some exposes of say grand corruption with detailed factual history etc am certainly not going to buy a tabloid type publication, but i'm willing to assume think miguna may have much more in the book and will give the benefit of doubt. but will certainly not pre-order. need to know that its a book worth having otherwise there are far more inexpensive paperweights
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Post by mzee on Jun 10, 2012 22:45:03 GMT 3
tnk, Miguna is to blame if the book does not sell well. He has all along marketed the book as being about Raila Odinga or rather wrong doings at the OPM. Truth be told, wrong doings at the OPM pales in comparison to those at the state house (OP). If a chapter of two was about OPM and Raila (negative or positive) and the rest about other problems that dog Kenya and new/until now unknown political insights (negative or positive) the book would make a good read. But just ranting about wrong doings by Raila in a 500 page book is just too boring for my liking.
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Post by raiswakesho on Jun 12, 2012 0:16:33 GMT 3
1. It won't have any political effect on RAO but will give Miguna a good financial lift. 2. Miguna's chances of working for any other candidate will be reduced to zero. 3. Miguna's chances of winning any elective post in the near future will be reduced by at least 75%. 4. Good entertainment for about 2 weeks with RAO haters dancing all over the web while RAO supporters mounting counter but mostly dismissive attacks.
5. At the end of the day, Miguna will have gained financially...RAO unhurt but probably brusied and as for you the reader, the opportunity cost will be the beer.
Have fun dear friends... maybe I can buy 10 books for OO to award to members. OO how can we do this?
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Post by OtishOtish on Jun 12, 2012 3:32:41 GMT 3
To Miguna: The knives are geting rusty. Throw out a chapter or two to keep the pot bubbling. At the very least, it will give you a taste of things to come, and you will be able to better prepare yourself.
To Rais: Far better to scan the book and make copies available at a small charge. Don't worry about Miguna suing you for copyright infringement; he will have his hands full with other things.
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Post by nereah on Jun 12, 2012 16:15:39 GMT 3
courtesy of a sister ;D whose living her career dreams, i happened to be among the very few breathing souls who have read page by page of what we would imagine is the manuscript and for obvious reasons held my peace(and wont share it out ) as i await the hard copy to compare what we were fed on by someone who supposedly happened to have been trusted with the manuscript, and what the publisher has in store for us and therefore the real deal. what i know for sure is that jukwaa has some mention and i hope omin ondiek was gracious enough to give credit and acknowledgment to or member who noted the typos.unfortunately i wont be in town during the launch. as i said in paraphrasing minister gumo's remarks to mudavadi during the hand over ceremony at jogoo house, we wish omin ondiek the best of luck in his future endevour. uki fauli utu kumbuke na sis pia ( wana odm na wafuazi sugu wa agwambo) tukifauli hatuta kusahau.
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Post by raiswakesho on Jun 12, 2012 16:31:38 GMT 3
Otis,
I've tried all my life to do things the right way & I wanna remain mweupe kama pamba ndiposa nisiwe na shida na jaji mkuu huko mbeleni nitakapo wania kiti cha urais.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jun 12, 2012 16:44:32 GMT 3
Otis, I've tried all my life to do things the right way & I wanna remain mweupe kama pamba ndiposa nisiwe na shida na jaji mkuu huko mbeleni nitakapo wania kiti cha urais. Rais: You have nothing to worry about in that regard. First, this is Kenya, and anyone can always be bleached at any time. Second, when rapists and murderers can be serious presidential candidates, why worry about such a small thing?
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Post by raiswakesho on Jun 12, 2012 17:31:46 GMT 3
Otis, True that!
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Post by roughrider on Jun 13, 2012 11:01:21 GMT 3
There are many for whom the detailed contents don't really matter. You are quite right. I am one of those.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jun 13, 2012 12:27:27 GMT 3
Nereah:
Miguna's book launch is MORE THAN A MONTH AWAY- July 14, 2012.
OO
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Post by nereah on Jun 13, 2012 12:29:04 GMT 3
mea culpa,
i am one month earlier to the date. apologies for the embarrassment. anyway,lets pray that the gods wont rain on his parade.
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