Moi's small tricks exposed, unites Western!

[politicalmaniac]

Yup
The threat to misuse jirongo to evicerate mudamba jnr has now back fired badly.

Jirongo castigated Moi "for back stabbing" him and declaring for General Kegs de Othaya.
What did jirongo expect?

So Westerners are busy scratching their heads wondering whats going on. Why the sudden about turn?. Yesterday I talked a friend abck home who cryptically told me jirongo is OUR mole. I told him, sikiliza wacha ujinga. Now jirongo may be mudamba greatest grassroot asset and NARC-k's greatest nitemare! What a turn around.

Also, Moi's announcement in RV hardly registered. Look at these comments

"Political analyst Joseph Magutt said Mr Moi’s decision would work to the advantage of the opposition.

He said the former Head of State had a tainted past and many Kenyans were not likely to vote for a political bloc he is associated with.

Thats exactly what I hear when I polled three fellows back home.

Haya

Another political analyst, Mr Kamotho Waiganjo, however differed, saying Kenyan politics did not focus on an individual’s past record.

I would love to smoke what this Waiganjo fella is doing. What an idiotic statement from a "analyst?"

Haya and MNgunyi, Generali Kegs de Othaya's political soundboard says

"On the contrary it (Moi’s endorsement of Kibaki) could work against Kibaki’s re-election. Moi has endorsed Kibaki for his own political insurance and not because he likes Kibaki as a president," said Mr Mutahi Ngunyi. "ODM will get support in the Rift Valley.

For once this guy sees it as it is.

jomo jnr and Gedi says its Moi's personal opinion and NOT KANU's

But my good friend Adams Oloo needs a Tusker baaad.

"Dr Adams Oloo postulated that Moi’s endorsement could add weight to Kibaki’s re-election the same way Moi’s political stand tilted the balance in favour of Opposition at the referendum on the draft Constitution in 2005"

After a few sips he clarifies.

But he cautioned that the retired President had lost his invincibility and the Kalenjin (read Rift Valley) are unlikely to follow him, citing a growing perception that the future of the community was with the (young generation) and not the older generation.

I feel much better!
Do you?

[politicalmaniac]

And as further evidence that the Moi declaration for General Kegs de Othaya sloth had the appeal of a warm bucket of spit here are the views of others

RUTO:

"These are two old men who are reading from the same script," said Ruto, who called on Kenyans to ignore being dictated upon by the old guard. "I am sure the Rift Valley people will not follow Moi’s advice blindly. Many will make their own informed decision."

BALALA
"Kibaki is only Moi’s second project and like Uhuru in 2002, even this one is bound to be defeated," said Balala.

MUDAVADI

"The decision to elect the country’s president cannot be a subject of an individual whim. Let the people decide," he said, adding that the Moi-Kibaki alliance was no threat.

ka-loser KM :The ever confused dim nitwit little twit

"I respect the old man (Moi) but his move is baffling. Kenyans know whom to vote for come the polls,’’ said Kalonzo.

Of course it must baffle this megalomaniac buffoon who was hoping for Moi to back him. His balloon is now releasing a gush of air.

JULIA: The even more confused ka-loser side kick.

Said Ojiambo: "We will not be cowed by Moi and Kibaki’s new alliance. We will take them on at the General Election.

Verdict?, Moi's move is ephemeral, its like a fart or a burp.
The strong stench dissapears haraka sana.

This alliance has no staying power at all.

Let R get the nomination and unleash the power of a full campaign.

mambo bado

[politicalmaniac]

And this article by Maina Gaitho tells of a Reality of selling General Kegs in RV is NOT easy

On Moi's influence:-

"His (Moi's) political views, in particular, may be received with amusement rather than taken as the way to go.

That is why the likes of Mr Ruto can openly defy his attempts at political direction and even occasionally tell him to shut up with no fear of a devastating rebuke from the voters."

What effect has Moi had on ODMs popularity by bashing it all the time 24/7?

Zilch

"Yet, despite everything Mr Moi has said and done in the past six months, opinion polls show a healthy lead for ODM across Rift Valley."

So why is ODM popular?

Thus it can be deduced that ODM popularity among the Kalenjin is not just because of Mr Ruto, but because of the general support for the opposition, a viewpoint dictated in large part by a deep antipathy towards the Kibaki administration.

With his resources, Mr Moi could cause a major re-alignment. But it might seem that instead of his announcement signalling a seismic shift in Kalenjin politics, it opened him up to ridicule and also gave ODM valuable propaganda points.

[job]

PM,

I never trust Jirongo politically. You know about politicians who just disappear only to reappear when the elections approach. They are suddenly relevant during campaigns but largely absent most of the time.

They are called election-wheeler-dealers or campaign cowboys - these opportunistss like Jirongo make money by extorting from the Big Men who've grabbed public resources -by disguising as election strategists, vote-mobilizers and grassroots propagandists.

Jirongo of YK-92 fame now claims by insinuation that Moi was ready to back someone other than Kibaki for the presidency. Ati he is mad Moi disregarded "their" recent talk at Kabarnet Gardens...when he claims..."so I was talking to myself and Moi was pretending to be listening"

Jirongo and his ilk must have assumed (or expected that) Moi was going to back Kalonzo via ODM-K -to give ODM-K some perceived impetus. Why? Birds of a feather flock together. Both Jirongo and Kalonzo aim to tame Musalia Mudavadi for them to realize their upward political ambition. So they expected that by affiliating with Moi, they would make Mudavadi irrelevant in Western's political dispensation. They have never been so wrong!

Moi's support for the Kalonzo led alliance would have presented a scenario whereby Jirongo's KADDU ( a decoy Western Province Party) would then enter into a coalition with Kalonzo's ODM-K and a couple of other nondescript parties to form that elusive third-force. (I told Japuonjni in another thread that this so called third force is not happening since Kenyans are more politically alert today. Just watch the national demise of Kalonzo who was popular just months back. Just watch Moi ignored flatly in his native backyard of Rift Valley.)

Technically, in akina Jirongos gameplan, the Jirongo-Kalonzo-Ojiambo-and-others alliance would have probably been a better bait at luring the Kamba and Luhya vote away from the main contest, between Kibaki and Raila, thereby giving Kibaki a chance at re-election. Raila's ODM would in effect be denied Luhya and Kamba votes which are still crucial in the election matrix..

In the end, ODM would have been expected to fall short,.....Kibaki would be re-elected president,..... Kalonzo would be ready to join Kibaki's coalition/GNU govt with his bargainning chip of ODM-K,....and Jirongo joining the same coalition/GNU government with his KADDU bargainning chip.....and Raila remaining in the opposition.

I hope he has now appreciated that all that was nothing but a pipe dream. KADDU is still irrelevant, Moi is not ready to either help him or Kalonzo -having appreaciated their gross political shortcomings and weaknesses. Moi is neither ready to back uhuru whom he knows has no chance today. Uhuru & his KANU are neither ready to cooperate with ANY Moi-backed alliances that don't have him (Uhuru) as presidential flag-bearer. In short and as expected, Uhuru is not supporting Kalonzo for Presidency.

Therefore its back to square one,.....the real battle is between Raila and Kibaki. It's a battle between change vs status quo. The change agent is Raila who as a solid advantage of the masses,...while Kibaki adds onto his arsenal a loadful of political liabilities like Moi, Biwott, jirongo, Kalonzo etc. who don't do him much favour.

Jirongo at Parliamentary level is slated for a face-off with the confused Dr Kibunguchy in Lugari -which is basically a cosmopolitan constituency.

Kibungucy once left Ford-K into Narc-K then swiftly made a U-turn back to Ford-K after realizing that Western is HOSTILE towards the flower party. Jirongo needs a boost by the Mois and Kalonzos to assume some more relevancy. At the moment he needs to try something else since most are watching him with caution. He has no interest of the nation at heart! It's all about him and his tumbo!

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Job

[politicalmaniac]

Job
I agree a Ka-loser KM/jirongo/biwott/uhuru combo would have caused problems in Western, and given the Kalenjins cause to pause and re-think ODM.

Jirongo would have muddied the waters in Western
What I am happy about is this. Western is now ODM and pockets of Bukusu Ford-K. So we have it under control.

Now that thinkgs are becoming clear, and the fact that the ordinary Kalenjin is not in Generali Kegs de Othaya's camp I am happy. The masses are on Rs side.

[politicalmaniac]

Here are a small sample of what kalenjins are saying in the blogosphere


"Here we got, is it the ninth wonder of the world?. Wasnt Kibaki there in the run up to 2002 elections when Moi said he didnt see any leader except Uhuru!, is Uhuru now not leader?
I think he is simply telling us to vote ODM because its a "chama you identities tofauti tofauti". Then that is representative of Kenya. The one for kibaki "ni ya identity moja". So its not representative of Kenya and should not be voted for.
Vote ODM".

Interesting perspective.

In 0h-two jomo jnr was the "best".
Generali Kegs de Othaya beat the crap out of him.
So now the Generali is the best.

and this one

"FRED TUWEI
i think what moi is saying is not actually promising coz is not the one to decide for people to vote for,everybody have a right to execcesess his or her democractic rights,let the kalenjin decide their political party they like and moi must stop convincing wananchi,i am telling the kalenjin to go for ODM"

Thats 2 FU's right there! .

[miguna]

politicalmaniac said:

Job
I agree a Ka-loser KM/jirongo/biwott/uhuru combo would have caused problems in Western, and given the Kalenjins cause to pause and re-think ODM.

Jirongo would have muddied the waters in Western
What I am happy about is this. Western is now ODM and pockets of Bukusu Ford-K. So we have it under control.

Now that thinkgs are becoming clear, and the fact that the ordinary Kalenjin is not in Generali Kegs de Othaya's camp I am happy. The masses are on Rs side.

P/M:

Jirongo, Uhuru and Kalonzo are still part of Moi's and Kibaki's strategy.

The reactions of these three have been choreographed. Jirongo is trying to look genuine and appear rebellious as a way of getting LEGITIMACY so that when he enters the race to attempt to spoil ODM votes in Western Province, they calculate that the people will not notice that this is within the context of a Kibaki re-election scheme.

Carefully note that Moi DID NOT attack Kalonzo or his shell.

But the Authentic ODM has seen that strategy and is dealing with it EFFECTIVELY.

Miguna

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[politicalmaniac]

MM
Even if it is part of a choreographed strategy, the story run the risk of bieng too convoluted and thus even confuse its players.

The thing is jirongo without Moi has zero street cred. So his threat is muted.
Meanwhile with Moi NOT backing KM, then his fortunes takes a bloody nose dive. That leaves the binary choice that we all want, a race between the incumbent in Rs ODM.

[rabetmaatari]

job said:

PM,

I never trust Jirongo politically. You know about politicians who just disappear only to reappear when the elections approach. They are suddenly relevant during campaigns but largely absent most of the time.

They are called election-wheeler-dealers or campaign cowboys - these opportunistss like Jirongo make money by extorting from the Big Men who've grabbed public resources -by disguising as election strategists, vote-mobilizers and grassroots propagandists.

Jirongo of YK-92 fame now claims by insinuation that Moi was ready to back someone other than Kibaki for the presidency. Ati he is mad Moi disregarded "their" recent talk at Kabarnet Gardens...when he claims..."so I was talking to myself and Moi was pretending to be listening"

Jirongo and his ilk must have assumed (or expected that) Moi was going to back Kalonzo via ODM-K -to give ODM-K some perceived impetus. Why? Birds of a feather flock together. Both Jirongo and Kalonzo aim to tame Musalia Mudavadi for them to realize their upward political ambition. So they expected that by affiliating with Moi, they would make Mudavadi irrelevant in Western's political dispensation. They have never been so wrong!

Moi's support for the Kalonzo led alliance would have presented a scenario whereby Jirongo's KADDU ( a decoy Western Province Party) would then enter into a coalition with Kalonzo's ODM-K and a couple of other nondescript parties to form that elusive third-force. (I told Japuonjni in another thread that this so called third force is not happening since Kenyans are more politically alert today. Just watch the national demise of Kalonzo who was popular just months back. Just watch Moi ignored flatly in his native backyard of Rift Valley.)

Technically, in akina Jirongos gameplan, the Jirongo-Kalonzo-Ojiambo-and-others alliance would have probably been a better bait at luring the Kamba and Luhya vote away from the main contest, between Kibaki and Raila, thereby giving Kibaki a chance at re-election. Raila's ODM would in effect be denied Luhya and Kamba votes which are still crucial in the election matrix..

In the end, ODM would have been expected to fall short,.....Kibaki would be re-elected president,..... Kalonzo would be ready to join Kibaki's coalition/GNU govt with his bargainning chip of ODM-K,....and Jirongo joining the same coalition/GNU government with his KADDU bargainning chip.....and Raila remaining in the opposition.

I hope he has now appreciated that all that was nothing but a pipe dream. KADDU is still irrelevant, Moi is not ready to either help him or Kalonzo -having appreaciated their gross political shortcomings and weaknesses. Moi is neither ready to back uhuru whom he knows has no chance today. Uhuru & his KANU are neither ready to cooperate with ANY Moi-backed alliances that don't have him (Uhuru) as presidential flag-bearer. In short and as expected, Uhuru is not supporting Kalonzo for Presidency.

Therefore its back to square one,.....the real battle is between Raila and Kibaki. It's a battle between change vs status quo. The change agent is Raila who as a solid advantage of the masses,...while Kibaki adds onto his arsenal a loadful of political liabilities like Moi, Biwott, jirongo, Kalonzo etc. who don't do him much favour.

Jirongo at Parliamentary level is slated for a face-off with the confused Dr Kibunguchy in Lugari -which is basically a cosmopolitan constituency.

Kibungucy once left Ford-K into Narc-K then swiftly made a U-turn back to Ford-K after realizing that Western is HOSTILE towards the flower party. Jirongo needs a boost by the Mois and Kalonzos to assume some more relevancy. At the moment he needs to try something else since most are watching him with caution. He has no interest of the nation at heart! It's all about him and his tumbo!

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Job

I agree and disagree with Job on several points he made. Here is my take on the whole Jirongo saga. The claim by Jirongo to the effect that Moi has betrayed him after their meeting last week can only be treated with the contempt it deserves.

After that meeting, Jirongo claimed that he met the professor of politics as part of bi-monthly business meetings between two partners. He further stated that they would continue to meet.

But alas, after Moi’s declaration of support for Kibaki, he Jirongo has revealed that his meeting with Moi was to ostensibly, to prop Jirongo to vie for the Kenyan Presidency in the 2007 elections. He further revealed that Moi had betrayed their agreement of support for him.

Kenyans do not be hoodwinked into believing Jirongo. This is part of the wider scheme which has seen Moi declaring support for Kibaki with Jirongo crying wolf but still offering his candidacy come September 7th. The plot also calls for Uhuru and Gideon to claim KANU’s independence and ignorance as far as Moi’s declaration is concerned but still back Kibaki in the elections. It also involves Kalonzo Musyoka whose original assignment was to split the Orange which he succeeded in doing albeit dismally.

Remember all these characters met at Jirongo’s residence to confirm the scheme and further plot in the not too distant past.

The whole objective is to stop one Raila Amolo Odinga from ascending to the Presidency of the great nation of Kenya.

[job]

MM & PM & Rabet,

Looking at all these players, we realize that :

KIBAKI - wants to retain the Presidency in 2007 to maintain the status quo & hopefully hand-over in 2012 to another status quo-ist. (= more of the same in Kenya,...tribalism, corruption, insecurity, unequal resource distribution, increasing gap between the poor and the rich)

RAILA - wants the Presidency in 2007 to effect fundamental reforms and changes in Kenya.(devolution, equitable resource and power distribution, end to corruption, tribalism and insecurity, poverty alleviation)

KALONZO - wants to help Kibaki win the Presidency in 2007, maintain the status quo and plant himself ready for a 2012 opportunity.(= more of the same under Kibaki, no devolution, no land reforms, no constitutional change)

MOI - wants to STOP RAILA and RUTO.....wants to STOP CHANGE in Kenya,...wants to help Kibaki win the presidency to maintain the status quo and place his son Gideon Moi ready for a 2012 VP opportunity. (= more of the same Nyayo that he left Kibaki,...tribalism, no land reforms, no devolution, no equitable distribution of resources,..no constitutional change)

He is having trouble auctioning his Kalenjin people and has conveniently set his eyes on the Luhya and Kamba as his auction baits. - hence Kalonzo above, and Jirongo below.

JIRONGO - working in cohorts with Moi, wants to help Kibaki win the presidency and maintain the status quo, and cripple the influence of Musalia Mudavadi in Western, positioning himself nearer to the high table in 2012.

The slated pawns in the Moi-Kibaki-Kalonzo-Jirongo games are the Luhya and Kamba voters.

The Luhya are increasingly resisting being hoodwinked into being the facilitators for delayed reforms/change (devolution, land reforms, governance changes, bringing equity in resource distribution etc) in Kenya -which would ironically benefit the entire country including them.

The Kamba are still held in a Kalonzo-presidency hysteria -which in reality is a time-buying gimmick. A lot of work needs to be done in Ukambani to counter the cunning political auctioning of this huge electorate by reknown status-quoist conservatives and Moi counsels like Mutula Kilonzo. It's still a tall order for ODM original and I don't know whether Charity Ngilu will fit the bill to mobilize these in-laws of mine to join the rest of the nation in effecting real change FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME in the HISTORY OF KENYA!

Job

[job]

RabetMaatari,

We are essentially on the same page. Whether it is an alliance between Jirongo and Kalonzo (what Kalonzo was begging for) or whther it is Jirongo going solo and splitting the Luhya vote while Kalonzo splits the Kamba vote,....both their end is to help Kibaki retain the Presidency.

Job

[politicalmaniac]

Job and others
I would like to believe that after the ODM nominations, R hits the road hard before coming to Denver, Co for a short break before starting the home stretch geared towards ngoaring the incumbent.

Moi's kiss of death planted on the incumbent was the best news for ODM. Why? It solidified the anti NARC-K base, and energized it, while also undressing the emperor. The emperor is naked and does not look good.

With todays news that the Billion dollar fundraiser was publicky scrapped (but privately still on), still fresh on folks minds after the Moi debacle, Generali Kegs de Othaya looks that much more remote, and isolated, kind of like a pre revolutionary Marie Antoinette who lost touch with the commoner.

From what I gather, the 5 Bukusu constituencies will spring a suprise or two. And my adopted home town/province in Pwani is getting orangier and orangier. The grass roots are bubling with excitement.

Its the Kambas 'your in laws' ;D whom I dont know where they will eventually land especially with KMs quixotic candidacy that is going nowhere fast.

[Mukwhasi]

People there are plenty of trojan horses out there, we need to be very careful as to who we invite to our table ,some will poison the very food we lay before them as we close our eyes to pray.I think the jirongo moi factor is part of a larger game plan to scatter the riftvally /western votes, remember we are dealing with an illitrate professor so do not dismiss any theory no matter how silly it sounds.

[politicalmaniac]

jirongo was floored by an unexpected jujitsu move. Its ka-loser that I pity. He is falling like a rock. Its NOT even clear if he will have his NDC on Sunday courtesy of the suit in court. Already Nazlin is whinning that he has been pre-rigged. Without Moi in the mix for him he is a real orphan.

[job]

Moi projects exposed>>>>> The traps being laid,.....will the Luhya electorate play the pawns for auction, in Moi's cunning games,...or will they refuse to be used by Mzee Moi!

excerpt from The Standard report.

"The Luhya community cannot continue supporting other tribe. If a small community like Kamba can produce a presidential candidate, who are we to support others?" Cyrus Jirongo posed.

The former Lugari MP said: " I have stated categorically that if Mudavadi wins ODM ticket, I will step down for him and if he fails I will go on with my quest for presidency".

Here comes Jirongo and Baba Moi's hands in Western.

[politicalmaniac]

After I watched yesterdays proceedings I am beginning to have some confidence that mudamba jnr indeed can carry western. I was impressed by his speaking skills and in swa no less. He will/should camp down there and make sure he convinces my fellow brothers and sisters that ODM is indeed the vehicle to prosperity. I spoke with my people there and they are happy with ODM line up.

[roughrider]

I salute Musalia Mudavadi. He is a good schemer, for he has already bagged the Nyanza, Rift Valley and Western kenya vote for 2012. This is an amazing feat to accomplish 5 years before an election...

and a FIRST!

As we get less tyribalized and much more democratic, I can see even kamale voting for him excitedly despite a fellow tribesmate gracing the ballot that year.

Kiraitu Murungi who said Saitoti is pregnant with a Child who will be born in 2012 must take medal for vulgarity. Remeber 'raping a woman who is willing'. But he is so off the mark...