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Post by kingpin on Jan 1, 2008 20:01:41 GMT 3
Where do we go from here?
Jukwaa has a role to play in restoration of democracy, peace and stability in our beloved Kenya. If we really love Rome more than Ceasar, then this is the time to step in. Lets help the warring political class with practical solution to Kenya problem.
I suggest PNU and ODM forms a broad based caretaker government pending constitutional reforms and fresh and free elections.
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Post by aeichener on Jan 1, 2008 20:48:48 GMT 3
Not unreasonable at all.
What would happen, in your opinion, if Kibaki offered a ministerial post (or even the vice presidency) to Raila, in order to still the violence and show unity?
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Post by kingpin on Jan 2, 2008 16:21:35 GMT 3
Nation, seems to agree with my proposal on the wayfoward.Quote" The next stage would be to work out an amicable solution to the political impasse, even if it means establishing a government of national unity with representatives from both sides, or appointment of a caretaker government to run the country on an interim basis until the dispute over the election outcome is resolved, or fresh elections held. "www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=113788
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Post by kingpin on Jan 2, 2008 16:31:07 GMT 3
No doubt about it, Jukwaa has influence and thats why we have a responsibility to Kenya and her future.Lets do all we can to halt the carnage and restore its face as the acceptable face of Africa.
Peace!
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Post by kingpin on Jan 2, 2008 16:44:39 GMT 3
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Post by aeichener on Jan 2, 2008 17:09:41 GMT 3
Nation, seems to agree with my proposal on the wayfoward.Quote" The next stage would be to work out an amicable solution to the political impasse, even if it means establishing a government of national unity with representatives from both sides, or appointment of a caretaker government to run the country on an interim basis until the dispute over the election outcome is resolved, or fresh elections held. "www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=113788 I am glad to see that several people here and there agree on that. Alexander
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Post by che on Jan 2, 2008 17:27:13 GMT 3
An interim government seems to be the only way out of this nightmare. But it will need to have specific goals and time line.
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Post by aeichener on Jan 2, 2008 17:58:25 GMT 3
An interim government seems to be the only way out of this nightmare. But it will need to have specific goals and time line. Definitely so. It must be limited, and cannot just "go on" with a status quo compromise and business as before. If there is one thing that Kenyans regardless of tribe do not want (except for the small but coherent tribe of the politickers), it is the status quo. Alexander
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Post by kmurungi on Jan 2, 2008 18:04:01 GMT 3
An interim government seems to be the only way out of this nightmare. But it will need to have specific goals and time line. Definitely so. It must be limited, and cannot just "go on" with a status quo compromise and business as before. If there is one thing that Kenyans regardless of tribe do not want (except for the small but coherent tribe of the politickers), it is the status quo. Alexander while this decission looks promissing, kibaki shouls not be anywhere close to leadership. he need to just retire from politics.
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Post by aeichener on Jan 2, 2008 18:09:26 GMT 3
I agree that he may have legality, but not legitimacy as things stand, and should step down gracefully as soon as possible (meaning: as soon as some calm has been restored, and a vice president has been appointed). A whole second term seems not tenable nor tolerable. It has been suggested elsewhere that a new Constitution should be enacted first. Sounds nice but I doubt that this be possible so quickly. To be truly embracing and legitimate, a constitution must be agreed upon and enacted by the constituant power. This necessitates a referendum, as before in 2005.
Alexander
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Post by che on Jan 2, 2008 19:40:14 GMT 3
A new constitution is ultimately what Kenya desperately requires. But an interim government with Kibaki, Michuki and the like minded in it would not provide Kenya with the kind of progressive and future focused constitution that is very crucial for the future of Kenya. Remember the one Wako was peddling in 2005?
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Post by JAHAATWACH on Jan 3, 2008 0:20:37 GMT 3
PNU and ODM power sharing formula. PNU -Head of state - Chief Justice + AG -Defence,Internal Security,Finance ministries -Deputy Speaker of National Assembly -Chief Whip
ODM -Speaker of National Assembly -Vice-President + Chief Minister+ Leader Of G.B -Foreign Affairs,Health,Education,Trade/commerce and Local Government ministries -Deputy-Chief Whip
* Disband and reconstitute ECK( PNU-Chairman, ODM Vice-Chairman) *New constitution within 90 days.
*Kibaki and Raila to initiate NATIONAL RELIEF FUND for victims of those who perished in the post-election violence.
*Mass burial for victims and a day of national mourning.
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Post by dropmyload on Jan 3, 2008 11:29:25 GMT 3
I dont see how giving PNU presidency and Internal security will help. Those 2 roles must be split!
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Post by japuonjni on Jan 3, 2008 16:52:04 GMT 3
KINGPIN, here is some good news for you.
EU, US urge Kenyan parties to seek coalition -EU 03 Jan 2008 13:18:22 GMT Source: Reuters
BRUSSELS, Jan 3 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of StateCondoleezza Rice and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana urged Kenya's rival political parties to seek a coalition government, an EU spokeswoman said after the two spoke by phone on Thursday.
"They agreed the focus should be on pressing the parties to engage in dialogue and make every effort to agree on seeking to establish a coalition government," she said after Solana and Rice discussed unrest there after the disputed re-election of President Mwai Kibaki. (Reporting by Mark John)
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Post by japuonjni on Jan 4, 2008 19:10:08 GMT 3
SAVING KENYA,VOICES OF REASON
Quote: "National anthem was not played on or before the swearing in ceremony.Legal solution will maintain status quo"
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