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Post by pippyza on Feb 8, 2008 0:40:48 GMT 3
Kenyans should continue to protest despite ODM/Raila´s new stand. If Kenyans stop protesting over the rigged ballot, then it only means that they were not protesting but helping others to do so (that makes my tears roll after 1000 people (protesters and others) have been killed out of it.
The boardroom agreement of ODM and PNU should not compromise with your desire to protest.
Subverting democracy calls for Protest whether from PNU to ODM or vice-versa
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Post by nereah on Feb 11, 2008 20:26:02 GMT 3
history teaches us that the british outsourced ugandan army led by one idi amin to quell mau mau insurgency.fast foward 2008. we also learn from history the shinanigans of the lancaster talks and how the people were short changed. fast foward serena talks. another opportunity for change is about to be squandered.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 11, 2008 20:46:31 GMT 3
Pippyza Is it really clear what ODM/Rs stand is? The final stand? I would suppose that its better if we wait for the final outcome of these talks with the thieves before we call for protests or denounciation of the result. Its just to early to tell what is what
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Post by JAHAATWACH on Feb 13, 2008 15:08:59 GMT 3
Kenyans should continue to protest despite ODM/Raila´s new stand. If Kenyans stop protesting over the rigged ballot, then it only means that they were not protesting but helping others to do so (that makes my tears roll after 1000 people (protesters and others) have been killed out of it. The boardroom agreement of ODM and PNU should not compromise with your desire to protest. Subverting democracy calls for Protest whether from PNU to ODM or vice-versa An excerpt from Financial Times: " In the western town of Kisumu, an opposition stronghold, young supporters of Mr Odinga who watched their friends shot down by paramilitary police in rioting six weeks ago said it would be a betrayal if he came back from talks with anything but the presidency.
"Raila said we we are going to talk nothing but the presidency. He is not going to back down. If he does, his own life will then be at risk," said Seth, a local gang member.
Hardline elements of Mr Kibaki's Kikuyu tribe have issued death threats to moderate members of their community and threatened in pamphlets to act as "communal defence structures" should Mr Kibaki agree to share power with men they claim have been involved in ethnic cleansing." www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d4944cde-d9d6-11dc-bd4d-0000779fd2ac.html
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Post by pippyza on Feb 13, 2008 16:19:39 GMT 3
The only agreement that should bar Kenyans from protesting is fresh elections. We are not protesting behind any politician but we are defending our democratic rights. Kenyans have rejected with a loud voice, a rigged outcome of an election. Kibaki does not have the mandate to rule and that´s the only problem we are facing in Kenya.
We need no recount or retallying, really. They have been tampered with.
What we need is fresh elections but institutions must be made to recapture our confidence.
Whoever will win in a free and fair elections shall form the government. As for now, we need a transitional government.
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