Question about "orange" campaign website ?

[aeichener]

The Nation of today presented a garbled URL:

"Mr Musyoka and Mr Odinga were speaking at the launch of a critique, Our Case Against the Wako Draft, their new website www.orangeno.campaign and four CDs of music advancing their cause."

Has anybody here already see the new website, and can give us a correct URL ?

Many thanks,
Alexander

[kamalet]

Here you go.

www.orangenocampaign.com

Personally I think this was the daftest thing the orange campaign would have done. Now they have cast their lies in stone, and we shall debunk them. They can no longer claim they were misquoted!

[aeichener]

Thank you ! I just found it also, via whois. :-)

Alexander

[aeichener]

Hm. Hm.
Some dunderhead wrote, in the website's rather weak section "Reasons for voting NO":

"Right to life clause is exactly similar to the one Hitler used in 1929 to exterminate the Jews and other ethnic groups. The right was subject to enactment by Parliament which Hitler controlled."

Would a kind charitable soul be willing to fill them in with some basic facts about German history? *sigh*

A.

[aeichener]

I was and am critical of the website. It shows both the good and the bad sides of the orange campaign (and its authors will never read the Jukwaa board anyhow, I am sure...). But I found one precise and clear statement that deserves to be shouted in every marketplace, in every village:

"The November 21 referendum is not about the current and the proposed constitution (if that were the case, they should have published and distributed both copies for public scrutiny). The referendum is to determine whether the proposed new constitution is good for the country or not. The choice is between the flawed Wako draft and a new, better constitution agreed through a consultative process that is acceptable to the majority of Kenyans."

Well said !

And one of their best pages within the site (a bit hidden) is the "blunders.htm" page, treating "The 15 Biggest Banana Blunders".

orangenocampaign.com/blunders.htm

Excellent style, rather witty, and more astute than I would have expected. It definitely shows that different pages of the orange site had been authored by different people. Whoever collected and presented the "blunders", is really good.

Alexander

[KOLONEL BRISK]

Well the correct website address is

www.orangenocampaign.com

[job]

Folks,

I've noticed the quick reaction of YES pundits dismissing the launch of the ORANGE campaign website, some actually think that was a very "daft" idea. Well, ...........that's all "Balogni" and crap.

Both the concept & contents of this website are aimed at achieving something,.... which we can't yet measure for now.

We'll appropriately (as expected) evaluate the effect of that site after November 21st, 2005. Doesn't that make any evaluation sense?

Of course some YES supporters may not help spewing out individual bias(es) & jealousy coming disguised as "critique" packages. My advice to them is that they spend more time "originating" BANANA ideas instead of pouncing on other peoples simple creativity.

It is little of Banana business but the BIG duty of Orange supporters to make adjustments, contributions & corrections to the site,......surely how can YES people try to influence what the ORANGE team does?

Setting up a campaign website, is just the the norm in the US for instance.

Job.

[aeichener]

"Pundits" ?
*raises an eyebrow*

Don't give'em too much credit, will ya...

A.

[adongo12345]

Kamale



Personally I think this was the daftest thing the orange campaign would have done. Now they have cast their lies in stone, and we shall debunk them. They can no longer claim they were misquoted!

When are you releasing the dossier on the "lies now edged in stone", Mr Kamale.

Or were you misquoted?

Adongo Ogony

What's up in Kisumu? Is it part of the coup plot?

[aeichener]

The website is being improved constantly, as I see. Benson is doing a fine task on it, and the design is also good. Now, will somebody care to upload the promised songs, even though it will cost some bandwidth ? Just asking...

Alexander

Edited on 2.11.2005: all the songs, with a single exception, have been uploaded now and play nicely. The textual content has also been enriched; it's worth revisiting the site.

[aeichener]

I just visited the new banana site.

It is also a well-made and appealing site. Decent job. However, their "10 reasons to vote yes" are even WEAKER and flimsier than the "10 reasons to vote no" on the orange website.

Both authors of the respective lists do not seem to think very highly of the intelligence of their readers...

Alexander

[aeichener]

I am even more impressed now by the Orange website. Some of the website's authors are actually reading this board (you know who you are)... and I see that some of the more offensive and more self-effacing "reasons to vote no" have actually been thrown out by now, and have been replaced by more reasonable and sensible arguments.

Respect !

Alexander

[kamalet]

Alex,

I am always curious why anyone bothers with these websites apart from possibly boosting their egos! There are less than 500,000 people connected to the internet and perhaps the reach is barely 1 million people. So whatever nonsense we have these sites reaches very few, and perhaps intelligent people can see right through some of the things said in there.

So, we can work on the sites - spend money on them, but can they translate to votes?

[aeichener]

A good question. The idea behind these websites is probably that - in spite of low and slow internet connectivity in Kenya - these serve as multiplicators, notably for media and civil society facilitators.

Whether this is correct, I cannot fully assess. But given the formidably bad web presentation of most of Kenya's government institutions, and of many NGOs (the FIDA website is atrociously neglected and dysfunctional), both campaign websites are rather good.

A.