Jousting About Growth Rates on Kenya Talk

[Onyango Oloo]

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What Kenyan leftists (mainly Luos) won't talk about
From: _ - Tue, Dec 13, 8:27 AM

Why is Kenya currently enjoying a 5% economic growth rate?

Do they even kno what this means?

to the empty headed tribalist
In response to What Kenyan leftists (mainly Luos) won't talk about posted by _[/b]

From: Onyango Oloo - [e-mail] Tue, Dec 13, 11:59 AM

for many years, the whites in south africa had one of the HIGHEST standards of living in the world. there are dozens of countries which post very impressive economic growth rates.

but only a demented and possibly inebriated dunderhead on rcb will start crowing with orgiastic delight about a 5% growth rate.

to gauge the true economic impact of these statistics, one has to scratch deeper than the superficial veneer.

one must ask questions such as:

1. how widespread and distributed is the national cake?
2. how many kenyans are living below the poverty line?
3. what is the rate of unemployment?
4.what is the real gap between the rich and the poor? what is the difference between what kibaki "earns" in a month and what his housemaid earns?
5.how many women are poor? how many women are rich?
6.how many teenagers in korogocho can afford to go a movie every weekend?
7.if the police stopped a pedestrian walking home from a kibarua on ngong road and demanded a two thousand shilling bribe what is the likelihood the pedestrian would have that kind of money on their person to part with?
8. how many kenyan families can afford to pay for a coffin on their own without a harambee effort?

please answer those questions before you open your big mouth and empty head.[/i]

oo
nairobi

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[kamalet]

You can continually curse the system, but there are very many good things happening in kenya. Perhaps now that OO is in Kenya, he can venture out of Kibera or Mathare and seek the opinion of milk farmers in Nakuru or coffee farmers in Thika, try and find out the effects of rural electrification and the d**es of Budalangi. Economic measure shall not not be computed out of the poverty of idlers in the city.

[miguna]

Kamau:

Have you lost it like Kibaki?

1. What or who is the "system?" Does it belong exclusively to "Kikuyu elites?"

2. What are the "good things" happening in Kenya? How do you attrribute those so-called good things to Kibaki and his casbal of tribal looters?

3. Why do you assume that Onyango Oloo lives in Kibera or Mathare? And why do you snide at that, even if it were true?

4. Why do you refer Oloo to Kikuyu farmers in Nakuru and Thika; and not to sugar cane farmers in Mumias and Migori? How about Cashew Nut farmers in Kilifi? Are they also getting the "good things" that cofee and milk "farmers" are reaping? If not, why? Are they not Kenyan enough?

5. What happened to Odino Falls? Why is electrification only occurring in Central Province?

Keep snoring.
Peace [unedited]

-Miguna-

[kamalet]

Miguna,

If you wish this to be tribal debate, then am out of here. Perhaps you may want to know how many 'luos' are benefitting from the growth of the economy just to remove your blinders that it is only the kikuyus making it.

I did not mean that Oloo lives in Kibera or Mathare, and my statement should have read 'venture out to' and not 'venture out of'. My sincere apologies to Oloo.

Perhaps he can follow your suggestions and he will find out how much money is being paid to sugar farmers in western Kenya or even the revival efforts on the cashew nuts factory. Because you have this bile on kikuyus, you will be happy to know that they actually are not the largest producers of milk in the country and this honour is held by the hard working farmers of rift valley who are getting paid on time by KCC.

Again, I hail from rift valley and know what rural electrification has done for the country. If there is a problem in Luo land, you may want to throw some stones to 2 of your erstwhile sons who headed the ministry responsible for rural electrification if they never 'facilitated' electricity in the region....

[miguna]

Kamau:

What you have said above is nonsense, and you know it. Farmers, including sugarcane farmers, in Nyanza, are not getting the so-called "boom". May I remind yuo that I am one of them. Secondly, the milk "farmers" getting paid are Kikuyus in Central & Refit Valley Provinces. We all know the largest "family" milk producer is in Kenya; don't we now? Please don't bring in the ODM b*crap.

BTW: I'm not one of those that you can cheaply corner with "anti-kikuyu" garbage. Stop right there.

Any honest Kenyan (including all those wananchi that threw Kombo out of Mathare today) know who is getting what in Kenya. You have failed miserably to see your lies. Try again brother.