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Post by phil on Jan 23, 2009 13:13:06 GMT 3
Former Finance minster Amos Kimunya has returned to Cabinet as minister for Trade in a reshuffle.The President, in consultations with Prime Minister Raila Odinga, has also named Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta as Finance minister. ODM's Franklin Bett becomes Roads minister. Mrs Beatrice Kones has been named as Assistant minster for Home Affairs. www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/518716/-/u1ciur/-/index.html |
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Post by phil on Jan 23, 2009 13:49:20 GMT 3
Typical succession politics at play. Michuki declines an offer to be appointed finance minister ostensibly because Kimunya has been found innocent. Kimunya himself was caught lying to the Kenyans that the hotel had not been sold yet he knew it had been sold; and sold in contravention of the public procurement and disposal act. I am hoping parliament is going to react to this reappointment strongly given that parliamentary committee on Finance had declared Kimunya unfit to hold a public office after conducting its own investigations. It is also intriguing, but not entirely surprising, that the report of Cocker commission has not been made public despite the interest of the Kenyan public and also the fact that other parties who had expressed an interest and also paid deposits for buying the same hotel also demanded to see the report. The appointments also tell a story on the Waki envelope. It is an open secret that Uhuru Kenyatta, the new Finance Minister, is amongst those listed on this envelope. What message does this say about the intentions of the principals in dealing with those mentioned in this envelope once the Special Tribunal for Kenya starts its hearings?? What is the qualification for being a finance minister in Kenya? Dishonesty? Heir apparent? Ethnicity? You be the judge....... |
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Post by einstein on Jan 23, 2009 14:56:00 GMT 3
I am flabbergasted! I will take a moments off the board!!!
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Post by njamba on Jan 23, 2009 16:59:05 GMT 3
Ati you are fabbergasted for what ODM has sold it supporters to Kibaki nonsense. Today there is no difference between Raila and Kibaki they are both doing alot of nothing
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Post by tiskie on Jan 23, 2009 17:08:13 GMT 3
Typical succession politics at play. Michuki declines an offer to be appointed finance minister ostensibly because Kimunya has been found innocent. Kimunya himself was caught lying to the Kenyans that the hotel had not been sold yet he knew it had been sold; and sold in contravention of the public procurement and disposal act. I am hoping parliament is going to react to this reappointment strongly given that parliamentary committee on Finance had declared Kimunya unfit to hold a public office after conducting its own investigations. It is also intriguing, but not entirely surprising, that the report of Cocker commission has not been made public despite the interest of the Kenyan public and also the fact that other parties who had expressed an interest and also paid deposits for buying the same hotel also demanded to see the report. The appointments also tell a story on the Waki envelope. It is an open secret that Uhuru Kenyatta, the new Finance Minister, is amongst those listed on this envelope. What message does this say about the intentions of the principals in dealing with those mentioned in this envelope once the Special Tribunal for Kenya starts its hearings?? What is the qualification for being a finance minister in Kenya? Dishonesty? Heir apparent? Ethnicity? You be the judge....... Phil My sentiments regarding all this power play and corruption in kenya, from both PNU & ODM - it is time for Kenyans to demand the coalition to be disbursed- surely now Crooks are protecting each other from both parties.. Neither Kibaki and Raila are fit to take Kenya into the future.. Both have failed Kenyans and they are getting fatter with bulging stomachs with their cronies while ordinary kenyans are going hungry, un-employment.. e.t.c I don't believe if the coalition government if disbursed that any Kenyan will start clashes... (clashes were paid for by politicians) kenyans now can see what a greedy corrupt group this current group politicians are from both PNU & ODM I sincerely can't bring myself to support either party after this!! Both are not fit to manage our country period!. Kenyans must now remove the coalition- no more excuses that clashes might erupt - what is happening in Kenya is worse. Kenya is heading to be another Zimbabwe the only difference is that the coalition Government is supporting each other in the corruption. |
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Post by job on Jan 23, 2009 17:14:51 GMT 3
This is NONSENSE!
Phil, you are very right that the appointments also tell a story on the Waki envelope. This is no wonder yesterday some ministers were campaigning to have Waki suspects NOT RESIGN while facing the tribunal.
Let's forget this Waki nonsense and be ready for the next post election butchering.
It is NOW an open secret that Kibaki intends to protect UHURU and Raila intends to protect RUTO. As for parliament's censure vote, Kibaki has shown that it does not matter what MPs think. Impunity has carried the day again.
And by the way, Kibaki has shown once again, like Kenyatta before him, that the FINANCE MINISTRY is a preserve of andu aitu. Uhuru was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, bequethed most of the country's land by his father, and has now been bequethed the country's finances by his political father. What a priviledged fella. Nepotism wins. Washindwe kabisa!
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 23, 2009 18:36:12 GMT 3
Pesa ni yao pekee!
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Post by kenyamoja on Jan 23, 2009 19:33:37 GMT 3
Politics aside, the appointment of Uhuru Kenyatta to the finance portfolio is the biggest joke ever. In these difficult economic times all we need is a finance minister with dubious qualifications.
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Post by mzee on Jan 23, 2009 20:03:50 GMT 3
Look, it could be true that Kimunya is truly innocent and that simply means we cannot hang him. I believe that its the sloth himself involved and must protect himself. How about the central bank governor? How about Orengo´s PS. Why are their heads not rolling. If Kibaki insists that he is not firing his minister however corrupt, there is little Raila can do. Thats the nature of the NARA. Thats the beast righ there. But I do agree with Kenyamoja-- Uhuru is more than a joke. However, kibaki tries to position Uhuru, Jomos son will not lead kenya anytime soon. This is a known mungiki finacier who is now incharge of our finances. God lord, how will this incompetent manage such an important docket?  ?? |
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Post by deyiengs on Jan 23, 2009 20:57:50 GMT 3
Guys this is truly troubling me.
Raila is getting caught up with the time syndrome. If at all he consulted Kibaki and came up with the appointments, then this is troubling. This is not the Raila who could read the public minds so well an know what's popular and what's not popular. This is certainly not popular.
I'm still waiting for his comments
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On a side note... it really does not make any difference weather he comes back or not. There are countless corrupt leaders in that coalition and more corrupt deals are going on weather we like it or not, mta do?
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Post by njamba on Jan 23, 2009 21:21:14 GMT 3
Guys this is truly troubling me. Raila is getting caught up with the time syndrome. If at all he consulted Kibaki and came up with the appointments, then this is troubling. This is not the Raila who could read the public minds so well an know what's popular and what's not popular. This is certainly not popular. I'm still waiting for his comments .... On a side note... it really does not make any difference weather he comes back or not. There are countless corrupt leaders in that coalition and more corrupt deals are going on weather we like it or not, mta do? Raila has caused the worst damage to the cause of ODM in the last 12 months. If Raila was a general and I was his Junior I would kill him and take over. Time for a Coup is now. Time we kenyans united and overthrow this government. PEOPLE POWER PEOPLE POWER |
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 23, 2009 21:48:06 GMT 3
Guys this is truly troubling me. Raila is getting caught up with the time syndrome. If at all he consulted Kibaki and came up with the appointments, then this is troubling. This is not the Raila who could read the public minds so well an know what's popular and what's not popular. This is certainly not popular. I'm still waiting for his comments .... On a side note... it really does not make any difference weather he comes back or not. There are countless corrupt leaders in that coalition and more corrupt deals are going on weather we like it or not, mta do? Raila has caused the worst damage to the cause of ODM in the last 12 months. If Raila was a general and I was his Junior I would kill him and take over. Time for a Coup is now. Time we Kenyans united and overthrow this government. PEOPLE POWER PEOPLE POWER This is unnecessary. If we are going to discuss these issues and be relevant, which we are, we must keep the dignity of Jukwaa. If and when you abuse that dignity you abuse all of us. It is unacceptable. For the record, the sky is not falling. The sun will rise again tomorrow uninterrupted. Do we have problems? You bet we do. Can we yell them away? No we can't. That is all I know. Let's keep away from unnecessary hyperbole. People respect Jukwaa, we should keep it that way. Thank you. adongo |
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Post by njamba on Jan 23, 2009 22:05:39 GMT 3
Ao the sky is falling on my side of the earth. What a betrayal by ODM. I wish Raila conceeded the elections. He is solely to blame for NARA failure and its weaknesses he sold out every principle that I supported him for.
All I am saying is that I am quiting ODM. Good luck to you all
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Post by kingtut on Jan 23, 2009 22:20:23 GMT 3
Balala is the cleanest man in ODM right now all these other fools are corrupt to the core.
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Post by fimbo on Jan 23, 2009 23:12:13 GMT 3
I thought ODM has no control over who PNU appoints to any position and vice versa
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Post by njamba on Jan 23, 2009 23:58:55 GMT 3
Raila was consulted at least that what nation says
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Post by okhunyanye on Jan 24, 2009 0:07:57 GMT 3
I thought ODM has no control over who PNU appoints to any position and vice versa My sentiments exactly. The only problem is that Raila, at least in the public's perception, seems to be slowly assuming Kibaki's burdens. Kibaki isnt going to be on the ballot box in 2012 but Raila will. Consequently, Raila needs to strategize and be in government while at the same time distance himself from PNU positions that are gradually marginalizing him from the common man. |
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Post by mzee on Jan 24, 2009 3:16:39 GMT 3
Raila was consulted at least that what nation says Dont be silly njamba. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 24, 2009 3:46:10 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Jan 24, 2009 12:19:05 GMT 3
Precisely Adongo. On top of this; the Grand Regency Hotel is gone forever and will never be recovered. Goldenberg mastermind Kamlesh Pattni has been granted amnesty. The then Finance Minister George Saitoti is free and will in all probability be on the presidential ballot paper in 2012. And just yesterday former CBK governor Eric Kotut was cleared of any wrong doing in the 5.8billion Goldenberg Case. The only institution that can stand up now and challenge the executive is parliament. Afterall, they ruled Kimunya as unfit to hold any public office!!! Do you think the Special Tribunal for Kenya will bite anything? I highly doubt it. |
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Post by kamalet on Jan 24, 2009 13:44:03 GMT 3
The only institution that can stand up now and challenge the executive is parliament. Afterall, they ruled Kimunya as unfit to hold any public office!!! Phil, Are you suggesting that parliament can go against the will of the people of Kipipiri and rule that Kimunya cannot hold public office which incidentally includes being a member of parliament? As for Kibaki, the report in his hand cleared Kimunya of any impropriety in the sales saga and being fit to be appointed to cabinet, did exactly that. Perhaps you will come running questioning the morality of such an appointment. But I can only tell you that apart from this being a new appointment, the cabinet is littered with so mony morally corrupt people that it makes little difference who gets into that cabinet!!!! |
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Post by njamba on Jan 24, 2009 19:29:54 GMT 3
Raila was consulted at least that what nation says Dont be silly njamba. raila was raila okayed the appointments. What was he consulted on? |
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Post by okhunyanye on Jan 24, 2009 21:05:26 GMT 3
- Mutahi Ngunyi, Saturday Nation. I believe Mr Odinga has been set up for failure by the President.I say so because the Prime Minister can organise people ‘‘against’’ an idea. However, he is weak at organising people in ‘‘support’’ of an idea. This imbalance makes him look like a ‘‘deconstructionist’’. With the cameras on him consistently, he is bound to reveal his true nature. He actually did so this week. He told reporters to focus on the ‘‘goodies’’ he brought from India instead of asking ‘‘useless’’ questions about the maize and oil scandals. This comment was ill-conceived and in bad taste. And this is why whenever Mr Odinga gets an opportunity to shut up, he must grab it with dear life. This way, he will have enough time to study President Kibaki’s silent schemes. www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/519248/-/view/printVersion/-/4rxd06z/-/index.html |
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Post by njamba on Jan 24, 2009 23:16:44 GMT 3
Raila was consulted at least that what nation says Dont be silly njamba. What consulations DoeS Raila have with Kibaki on Cabinet appointments? Does Raila have any say on What President DOES as far as appointments are concerned? |
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Post by einstein on Jan 25, 2009 3:19:22 GMT 3
Ati you are fabbergasted for what ODM has sold it supporters to Kibaki nonsense. Today there is no difference between Raila and Kibaki they are both doing alot of nothing Njamba, Can't Einstein be flabbergasted anymore? I mean, I'm not synonymous with ODM, Raila and Kibaki!! What do you want from me? Or is English the problem here?? |
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