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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 16, 2006 17:33:17 GMT 3
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Post by veritas on Feb 18, 2006 9:19:12 GMT 3
I don’t get it, what is the difference between "imperialism" and let say communism except with the former you can visit your friend in the UK and the system rewards you for being courageous rather than for remaining quiet. I can’t seem to understand the logic of what you say. As much as we want to point fingers at particularly the wealthy for the misery and poverty in this world, do you blame God? You see this is why global politics of this magnitude is considered impolite to talk about because it taps into personal.
When did the Western governments become so big is beyond me given they adhere to and encourage privatisation.. (hope you got the logic there) it must be the media. In a nutshell, there’s so many of this blame game conspiracy floating around so I’m just gonna be blunt because let me remind you global politics is very big to grapple and it’s not the movies. Let’s assume God is rich, do you blame God for making the world as it is? ‘Cause this is the blueprint of "imperialism" or so it reflects, instead of blaming God, mirror His way, but being human and all it doesn’t quite work but nevertheless it allows individuals to exercise Godly pursuits, a system that pleases him (reflected by prosperity levels), rewards those who practice moral integrity, make things accountable etc. etc.
When I look at people picking flowers, I see the following, they have a job, there are many who don’t even have a job! They’re outside, they can smell the lovely flowers etc. Sure certain policies need to be updated because it’s not up to par with let say flower picking conditions in the West, but nothing is perfect, we’re human, we’re flawed, our policies reflect it. I assure you the conditions will not be the same 10 years later given if the Kenyan government decides to partner up with the West in SHARING flower picking policies. ‘Cause at the moment, Kenya is not the UK. You may focus on the “sleeziness” of the US, but I focus on the excellent policies they produce, the entertaining movies, new inventions etc. etc.
“….whether these actors are driven by purely patriotic motives rather than being proxies and conduits for nefarious imperialist - even regime change agendas - can be gleaned by the extent that these local players participate in national democratic struggles and oppose neo-liberal imperialist policies.” – OO quote
Not necessarily, most of those people are probably clueless.. making the “extent” as somesort of benchmark is a bit farfetched and irrational don’t you think? People differ by degrees not kinds. There are some who are more patriotically inclined moreso than puppeting "imperialist" agendas but who cares? In the end they’re just doing their job. Those who do it without pay or compromise their position because of personal let say for "patriotic" reasons are in the minority so their say can’t be a reliable benchmark to make a conclusive deduced d@mning evidence for “evil imperialists out to plunder the poor and destroy the world whilst they’re at it.”
Every initiated project, system must have had good intentions regardless of content matter, an initiative started in pursuit of maximizing results/returns. Am I right to say along the way the system had to be readjusted, loopholes accounted for etc. etc.?
“Imperialists” are too big to be groveling in conspiracy or raping poor country’s economies as their prime agenda but moreso they fear accountability and God. Whatever flaws that may have happened from certain policies and initiatives are from those loopholes that need adjusting. It’s why debts were released, summit meetings are happening etc. to improve and account for them. Nothing is perfect but certainly “imperialists” policies NOT the loopholes, don’t work when corruption, and all those evil qualities manifest mainstream in countries associated in their network. By all means protest to have these loopholes addressed, but don’t mistaken that for the primary agenda / motive / intent / system.
~ Don’t blame God for your circumstances just because he equipped in you the strength and ability to prosper out of it more so than the guy born with it all. ~
P.S. 10th? ...right.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 18, 2006 10:13:21 GMT 3
veritas:
thank you for your critical feedback to my pambazuka piece on corruption. very much appreciated. i realize that we have divergent views on this topic- but that is why jukwaa exists as a forum for discussion and debate.
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nbi
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Post by veritas on Feb 19, 2006 21:14:36 GMT 3
I have yet to figure out whether you’re out to punish Kenya or you actually believe in the conspiracies that fuel the socialist agenda. You sound like a certain dictator in my gene pool in his early days, a spacko genius who foolishy bought into the paranoid conspiracies about the West brainwashed by Russia, China, not that he ever lived in the West, that led to fellow citizens striking out on one another. Why do you want Kenya to be poor? I want the average citizen in Kenya to live like me with the cultural perks. I can’t seem to understand why you approve of guns, fear and poverty dominating the country as opposed to freedom and abundance. And I can speak because I’ve experienced both worlds. At least you allow freedom of speech on this forum but who knows how long you’ll tolerate with people like me.
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Post by aeichener on Feb 19, 2006 23:42:42 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Mar 1, 2006 19:44:05 GMT 3
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