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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 2, 2011 21:27:32 GMT 3
I want to be blunt here. The illegal occupation of land in the former Rift Valley Province by kikuyus is one of the the reasons that caused PEV in 2007/2008. Where were these IDPs who are to be settled in Masaai land living prior to 2007? Why cant Kibaki and Murungi help them back to the land from which they were evicted? Its crazy Mzee you have a point but its more complicated than that. I think the history of how land in RV was transferred to the wana Gema has been explored at length here on this board. I think Job has led on educating us here on that issue. I personally dont blame the recipients of the land. Did they get re-settled there legally? I think so. I would have done so my self had I been accorded that opportunity. Many wana Gema also legally bought shambas just like other folks did. But the big issue here is that those Kalenjins who lived there did not get the same degree of assistance in acquiring land. So there is naturally some tensions generated between the landless indigenous folks and the emigres. . But you have to be careful not to paint all wana Gema in RV with the same brush, and unfortunately, that is what has happened. But you are absolutely right in asking why the IDPs cant be resettled back in the places they were evicted from. Why is the Govt not doing that? And now they want to take land from the Maasai? That is the genesis of yet another land crises in the making. Short cuts is what the land barons are all about. They are using their own people like pawns on a chess boards, avoiding all the hard questions and decisions. Instead we have that silly mirugi and Judas KM invoking Shariff Nassir's "wapende wasipende" dictums. Postponing hard decisions is stupid. When hard decisions are taken like on Mau which hurt in the short term but help in the long term are politicized, thats when the Nation starts to crumble.
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Post by nyarsiaya on Jan 10, 2011 1:02:10 GMT 3
The chickens are home to roost.
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Post by kamalet on Jan 10, 2011 11:02:41 GMT 3
Kamale.This thing has come full circle. Esther Murugi said Kenyans have a right to own land and live anywhere in the country. I agree with her 100%. That is the law of the land. So why not just take the IDPs to the land they previously owned and settle them there and have the security to ensure they are not attacked. Isn't that what the law says? Why take them to Mau Narok, where they never owned any land before? Now if these are regular landless people, which is very likely the case, then let's deal with the whole problem. They are not the only landless people in Kenya. There are millions of them. But here is the story. This whole land purchase from the Koinanges is falling apart. If they already have the money, they better send it back. This is a dead deal. AdongoI have previuosly said that all these are fake IDP's with no legal right to resettlement by government. They should only be re-settled if they can show their previuos land which they can exchange with that which is being bought by the government now!
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Post by job on May 13, 2011 1:29:59 GMT 3
SAMPLE THISEarly 1900s – Colonialists drive out Nandis from Uasin Gishu land, into neighbouring native reserves
1900s to 1960s – Colonialist farms land using cheap local labour (some Nandis and few imported Kikuyu farm workers)…meanwhile the rest of 1st generation Nandis are watching from the sidelines.
1960s – 1970s – Kenyatta era Kitchen cabinet transfers land into their elitist hands…meanwhile 1st and 2nd generation Nandis are still watching from the sidelines.
1970s – 2002 – Moi era Kitchen cabinet (Moi himself, aides like Joshus Kulei, and Tugen and Keiyo elites like Biwott) transfer the land to themselves. Chemusian Farm is borne, with several portions, a flower/horticulture Chemusian farm, a Chemusian Tea Estate, Chemusian Dairy farm, Chemusian cereal farm, and an idle portion….meanwhile 3rd generation (& surviving 1st and 2nd generation) Nandis are still watching from the sidelines.
2002 – 2011 (todate) – Kibaki era elites pay Moi/Kulei (using taxpayer money), billions of shillings, to bring in aka “resettle” IDPs from Nyahururu (Mawingu camp) into the idle portion of Chemusian farm. Note that Moi/Kulei retain the Chemusian flower/horticulture farm and the Chemusian Tea Estate, ready to utilize the cheap labour from the migrant IDPs… meanwhile 4th and 3rd generation (& few surviving 1st and 2nd generation) Nandis are still expected to watch from the sidelines.Were these folks born to watch their land (exploited by others) from the sidelines? That’s a heck-uv-a-sideline-watching?After all, isn’t that what the Uhuruto, aka KKK, aka G-7 alliance is supposed to do – facilitate the smooth transfer of status quo, muzidi-kukaa-hivyo-hivyo edicts? But then – wait a minute! These 4th generation Nandis may be upto something - copying the Maasai, Taita, and Lamu Miji Kenda & WaSwahili in resisting to ‘host’ IDPs? Haya! Where is Ruto to put out this fire. Didn’t Ruto and Uhuru promise ‘reconciliation’?Here it is from the Daily Nation. People living around Chemusian Farm during a meeting on May 12, 2011. They are protesting against the resettlement of IDPs from Nyandarua on the land.Plan to settle IDPs in Eldoret opposed
Landless people in Uasin Gishu County have threatened to invade a farm purchased for resettlement of internally displaced persons.
The land in Eldoret East was meant to accommodate IDPs from Mawingu in Nyandarua.
In a meeting on Thursday, more than 2,000 people said they would invade Chemusian Farm next week and subdivide it among themselves if the talks between them and the provincial administration fail to yield results.
Led by their chairman Bramwel Kimeli, the locals said the plan to resettle the IDPs on the farm was bound to spark ethnic unrest in the region.
He described the plan as unreasonable since there were many people in the area who have been landless since 1992.
“We have a lot of people who have been landless in the area and the government should have given them priority as beneficiaries of the land. We will resist the plan to settle any outsiders on this land while our people are languishing in poverty,” said Mr Kimeli.
The 1,040-acre farm is said to have been sold to the government by one of former president Daniel arap Moi’s aides.
A 26-man task force had been formed to steer talks between area MP Margaret Kamar, her Eldoret South counterpart Peris Simam, locals and the provincial administration on Tuesday next week.
They said that if an amicable solution on the issue is not reached, they will invade the farm and erect structures.
“On Tuesday next week we are going to meet the area MPs and the provincial administration to discuss the way forward over the issue but if a solution is not reached, squatters and the landless will subdivide the farm among themselves,” added Mr Kimeli, who is the chairman of the task force.
Thursday’s meeting brought together members of the Agikuyu community but the talks were conducted in Kalenjin.
This was the second meeting over the disputed land, with the first one convened by local leaders on Tuesday to mobilise the locals against the resettlement of the IDPs.
The land is a few kilometres away from the volatile Burnt Forest area that was hit hard by the 2007/2008 post-election violence. The locals fear that the move is a recipe for more violence.
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 13, 2011 6:55:38 GMT 3
Were these folks born to watch their land (exploited by others) from the sidelines? That’s a heck-uv-a-sideline-watching?After all, isn’t that what the Uhuruto, aka KKK, aka G-7 alliance is supposed to do – facilitate the smooth transfer of status quo, muzidi-kukaa-hivyo-hivyo edicts? Indeed those are some hard questions that ruto's base should ask him!! Blaming the Rt Hon Prime Minister for all and sundry can only take you so far, because at some juncture the rubber has to hit the road - reality has to set in. One can only blow so much hot air, and thats exactly what kina ruto have been doing. They have not provided a credible plan to settle the landless, all they have done is screw up things. Now ruto want to sell 100 acres of land he stole. Why cant he give that land to his people? The kei kei kei alliance is proving to be a very difficult coalition to build. I for one dont see any evidence that it is indeed something that is brewing. I dont see my RV pals and their Gema counter parts giving high fives to each other and busy plotting for success. I dont see any internet firestorms touting this alliance. I dont see the intelligentsia from either community singing Yesu tukute tenderaza and kissing each others cheeks while hugging. Where is this alliance? Where are they kumbayahs? Unless and until kina ruto and jomo want to do the dirty work of untangling the mess jomo snr and kipkorios bequeathed us, then they should get out of the way and let the Rt Hon Prime Minister get the job done. He has no dog in the fight (he has no stolen land in RV), he has the gravitas, the force of personality and the experience to do it. So now the mafiya and their 'old wingers' have resorted to blaming the victims, labeling them fake land poseurs! Is there a more callous bunch?
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Post by job on Jan 18, 2012 21:05:17 GMT 3
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