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Post by kamalet on Apr 12, 2011 15:26:47 GMT 3
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Post by mzee on Apr 12, 2011 15:29:19 GMT 3
Give him back "his" ministry then Mr. PM and Prezzo.
We knew that this is the way it would end. Its called kenyan justice. Only in Kenya.
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Post by sunday on Apr 12, 2011 15:34:55 GMT 3
Nilitarajia matusi ianzishwe na wewe. Maanake it's you who used to castigate this man as "A dead man walking" Sasa what changed? I guess amefufuka. |
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Post by commes on Apr 12, 2011 15:35:52 GMT 3
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 12, 2011 15:39:21 GMT 3
Ha!!ha!! ofcourse Kenyans were expecting this ruling and that is why When Kibaki appointed a list of AG, CJ e.t.c Kenyans rejected it ;D 2. now ICC can see the far reaching hand of impunity& corruption in our court systems to day.. that is the last proof they needed..
Ocampo 6 will never be tried in the Kenyan court system..
UHURU KENYATTA, RUTO & CO will be tried and jailed at the HAGUE ;D LET KIBAKI, UHURU & CO KEEP GIVING THE COURTS ORDERS ON HOW TO HANDLE CASES.. SOON KIBAKI WILL BE ON THE DOCK ON CORRUPTION, IMPUNITY AND ESPECIALLY THE POLICE SHOT AND KILL ORDERS.. SOME IN THE PNU INNER CIRCLES SAY.. UHURU & RUTO ARE RUNNING THE COUNTRY.. KIBAKI IS TAKING ORDERS FROM THE TWO... BLACK MAIL!! IS IN THE OFFING.. TO NAME HIM AT THE ICC AS PARTNER IN CRIMES... |
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Post by commes on Apr 12, 2011 15:47:20 GMT 3
If Hon Ruto was a PNU Member of Parliament, he would have been elevated higher up in the Ministerial hierarchy in Cabinet.
Given that he is ODM, I hope that the PM will do the honorably thing and keep him away from a Cabinet position
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Post by phil on Apr 12, 2011 15:47:45 GMT 3
Hahaha.
This was not totally unexpected and predictably Kamale cant hide his excitement because anyone opposing Raila Odinga becomes his best friend regardless of how may skeletons they have in their closets.
I will wait to read the judgement of Magistrate Muchelule before making further comments.
KPC and the state can of course appeal the decision.
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Post by kamalet on Apr 12, 2011 16:01:03 GMT 3
Hahaha. This was not totally unexpected and predictably Kamale cant hide his excitement because anyone opposing Raila Odinga becomes his best friend regardless of how may skeletons they have in their closets. I will wait to read the judgement of Magistrate Muchelule before making further comments. KPC and the state can of course appeal the decision. ....the enemy of my enemy is my friend?  Actually no. I am happy that Ruto is free and did not end up in jail for the poorly presented evidence by Wako. Jailing anyone on that evidence would have been a travesty. Our anger should be directed at Wako for the shody job...that is all I can say. |
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Post by destiny on Apr 12, 2011 16:24:55 GMT 3
Some of these cases take awfully long due to some delaying tactics from the defence. Eventually there's a "call from above" giving directions on the ruling. Too bad if you happen to be on the wrong side of the powers that be. At the moment, Ruto is singing the preferred tune, no chances of the big wigs whipping him to shape. Oh dear! What a banana republic we live in! Moi was right after all. Kenya ina wenyewe... mtazungushwa milele!
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Post by kamalet on Apr 12, 2011 16:29:35 GMT 3
Some of these cases take awfully long due to some delaying tactics from the defence. Eventually there's a "call from above" giving directions on the ruling. Too bad if you happen to be on the wrong side of the powers that be. At the moment, Ruto is singing the preferred tune, no chances of the big wigs whipping him to shape. Oh dear! What a banana republic we live in! Moi was right after all. Kenya ina wenyewe... mtazungushwa milele!It would appear that a verdict that does not agree with your wishes - notwithstanding the contradictions by witnesses - is not good enough. Just jail the man!!! |
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Post by roughrider on Apr 12, 2011 16:44:57 GMT 3
I think the judgement says it could not convict on the evidence presented. This is a serious indictment on our system: even non lawyers could see the shoddy presentation of the case and the magistrates nonchalance. All designed to lead to acquittal.
And yet we all know that public money was paid to private pockets for public land. It is just like Goldenberg. Same result.
This case is useful enough: it can be used as evidence of the fact that Kenyan courts and the judicial system cannot or will not catch any big fish. The ICC should look at this as a good precedent. How a seemingly open and shut case is destroyed by the system.
As for politics it helps to remember that this is an old case from 2004 (shame on the system!) brought on by the Kibaki system, it was claimed, to get Mr. Ruto. However, whatever the case, it was based on a real crime.
I salute Job for his focus and educating us on the progress of this matter.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 12, 2011 17:08:42 GMT 3
This one was a non-starter, all politics and nothing tangible. We now want the real thieves in the Makaburi and Water scandals to be brought to book. Hiyo tu.
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 12, 2011 17:57:40 GMT 3
Nobody in Kenya will ever be convicted of corruption. Anybody who doesn't know that already needs to have their heads checked. Kenya will never convict wenye inchi on anything from mass murder to corruption. May be ten years down the line. Thank god we have The Hague on the PEV issue. At least the truth is going to come out.
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Post by shifta on Apr 12, 2011 18:01:59 GMT 3
Lakini Kamalet you are the one who said that his was a case of Mbuni cleaners and guess what - you were right.
I did not expect otherwise and said as much.
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Post by kasuku on Apr 12, 2011 18:07:40 GMT 3
Hahaha. ....the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Actually no. I am happy that Ruto is free and did not end up in jail for the poorly presented evidence by Wako. Jailing anyone on that evidence would have been a travesty. Our anger should be directed at Wako for the shody job...that is all I can say. "Our anger"? i havent detected anger from you, rather a big yipee |
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 12, 2011 19:31:59 GMT 3
political maturity would be for the party Ruto presently belongs to, to congratulate him on his legal victory in a duely constituted court of law of the republic of Kenya. It does not have to be honest, but who is it who wants to mention honesty and kenyan politics in one sentence?
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Post by gakungu on Apr 12, 2011 19:56:32 GMT 3
Have Kenyans forgotten that Joshua Kulei at some point wanted to repay the money he was allegedly acquired fraudulently?
How comes he has been cleared as innocent.
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Post by emali on Apr 12, 2011 20:11:12 GMT 3
Have Kenyans forgotten that Joshua Kulei at some point wanted to repay the money he was allegedly acquired fraudulently? How comes he has been cleared as innocent. Exactly...amazing really...Ruto had to dance & dance he did...what a corrupt judicial system we have...its really amazing that our prisons are full... |
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 12, 2011 20:11:35 GMT 3
Explains why the Ocampo 6 want a locally run PEV tribunal doesn't it?
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Post by bob on Apr 12, 2011 20:29:11 GMT 3
Where is the tough talking illusionist in the name of PLO,what happened to the loot that Kulei wanted to return. When shall Kenyans ever taste justice?
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Post by tnk on Apr 12, 2011 20:49:03 GMT 3
anybody have a copy of the ruling?
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Post by akinyi2005 on Apr 12, 2011 23:31:56 GMT 3
how sweet it is to be in the uhuruto choir....voila and all your problems suddenly disappear. State drops incitement charges against KutunyThe State has withdrawn incitement charges against Cherengany MP Joshua Kutuny. The MP walked to freedom on Tuesday following Attorney General Amos Wako’s intervention in the case that was filed under the National Cohesion and Integration Act. It was withdrawn under Section 87 (a) of the Criminal Procedure Code that gives the AG’s office powers to charge the MP again with the same offence....... www.standardmedia.co.ke/politics/InsidePage.php?id=2000033135&cid=289&story=State drops incitement charges against Kutuny |
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 13, 2011 0:37:12 GMT 3
how sweet it is to be in the uhuruto choir....voila and all your problems suddenly disappear. State drops incitement charges against KutunyThe State has withdrawn incitement charges against Cherengany MP Joshua Kutuny. The MP walked to freedom on Tuesday following Attorney General Amos Wako’s intervention in the case that was filed under the National Cohesion and Integration Act. It was withdrawn under Section 87 (a) of the Criminal Procedure Code that gives the AG’s office powers to charge the MP again with the same offence....... www.standardmedia.co.ke/politics/InsidePage.php?id=2000033135&cid=289&story=State drops incitement charges against Kutuny maybe they are clearing these thugs cases so that they plan disruption in the country, but hold on!!! Ocampo can't be wished away "ICC" is he ;Dre to stay.. the choir members better fine tune their instruments and voices for a send of of the Ocampo 6 to Hague |
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Post by reuben on Apr 13, 2011 9:07:32 GMT 3
Whatever Raila supporters feel about Ruto is justified on an emotional level but they need to be consistent. When the judges ruled against President Kibaki's appointment, justice had been done and now there is no justice, just dry cleaning, you either allow the judges to decide all the cases brought to them or not, not cherry picking.
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Post by kmurungi on Apr 13, 2011 9:22:37 GMT 3
Re: ASSASSINATIONS IN KENYA- WHO'S NEXT? IS RUTO S « Reply #1 on Apr 4, 2008, 3:59pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Should you not let Ruto first mourn his father who was being buried today before hazarding guesses of how he himself will die? kamale, suprises for your 2008 posts on Ruto it is now the reverse. so now you know he did not kill kikuyus in the church Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=2212&page=1#20171#ixzz1JNiJbbDU |
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