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Post by b6k on Apr 30, 2011 20:50:18 GMT 3
Einstein,Here is the 411 on the guy: Unmasking Besigye’s tormentor The man in the pictureHis name is Gilbert Bwana Arinaitwe. But a UPDF deserter, now living in Europe, who says they were bosom friends and classmates at Ogut Primary School in Tororo Municipality, insists today’s showy Arinaitwe was by 1986 a bare-footed Jackson Kirunda receiving whips from teacher Okwakol almost on daily basis for failing Mathematics and English assignments. The contrast of his known humble beginnings, a supposedly prayerful life and an introvert’s posture were yesterday betrayed when the hitherto concealed evil in Arinaitwe erupted, shocking and galling his friends and mentors. Not least lecturers at Uganda Christian University where he obtained a Social Work and Social Administration Bachelor’s degree in 2006.“He used to be a class captain and a quiet guy. I am embarrassed by what he did (in arresting Besigye),” said his former lecturer. He sauntered at the Mulago roundabout in Kampala, pistol tucked to the waist line, after using it to knock down Besigye’s car windows, re-enacting alleged rogues committed by Idi Amin’s berated forces. Without a gun, light weight Arinaitwe would unlikely stage an average fight, except blurt out words in a quarrel as he does while translating for a top city pastor. He reportedly participated in investigating an unresolved sodomy case. Associates, appalled and galled by his yesterday’s conduct, or rather misconduct, say he is a man of devotion, who prays while speaking in tongues.On the streets, in the church and at shops, he starts his conversation with a calm Mukama ye bazibwe (Praise God) Christian tone. His wedding photos on face book page, scrambled after his unprecedented assault on Besigye, show him smiling in the tight embrace with his wife. It would be odd that he chose to introduce himself to Ugandan tax payers who buy his food and dress him by tormenting a man his senior in wealth, power and contribution to the country’s 1986 ‘liberation’. In lawful times, Arinaitwe, a CID officer attached to the Kireka-headquartered Rapid Response Unit, would be operating under cover like all civilised detectives, identifying and preventing crime. www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1152902/-/c25w69z/-/index.html Thanks for the documentary on this brute of a thug. People are going to answer very tough questions in the not so distant future. I hate it when people use the name of my Lord in vain. My God is gonna hit back furiously, believe you me. If you doubt, ask Daniel Arap Moi, Kalonzo Musyoka and William Ruto. All of them profess God in the day, while at night they are busy doing evil. God bless you! Einstein the fallacy is believing that a person who openly displays their outward devotion to religious dogma is therefore a spiritual being. |
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Post by b6k on Apr 30, 2011 21:02:17 GMT 3
Kimalet If Kenyans in 1991-92, Tunisians, Egyptians and Libyans (2011) had followed your advice Moi would this time preparing for his 8th 5 Year term. Instead thousands gave their dear lives to police batons, tear gas and live bullets until some cosmetic changes were made to re-establish multi-party competitive politics. Contrary to the western media twist, the "Tunisian" thing started in Sub Saharan Africa and has finally reached the Arab World years later. Yes we have had some serious backsliding as the case now emerging in Uganda and what Kibaki managed to do around here in 2007/2008 but that does not deny Sub Saharan Africa the right to be recognized as having blazed the way for the Arabs. Nearly ALL Arab countries are confirmed dictatorships. The are two exceptions - Lebanon and The Palestinian Territory. Omollo, the west reserves the right to re-write history as they deem fit. After all, you don't expect them to say they are actively cleaning house in arab lands by overthrowing their erstwhile friendly dictators. As far as democracies go, we in SSA are well ahead of our North Africa & the Middle East. The downside is human life is still relatively cheap here so we willingly squander lives in pointless blood-letting in sync with the election cycles. |
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Post by einstein on May 1, 2011 0:08:10 GMT 3
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Post by einstein on May 1, 2011 2:40:50 GMT 3
Museveni’s position on riots disturbing At around the same time President Yoweri Museveni was addressing an elite business audience in Nairobi on the subject of Africa’s economic prospects, his office released a statement that paints him as a man rooted in the past. Mr Museveni’s regime has been in the news lately for its brutal response to the protests staged by Ugandans over the rising cost of living in the country. The method the protesters chose to air their grievances was a simple but powerful one: They said they would walk to work. The regime has reacted by unleashing a wave of violence that has shocked many in the region. It had been hoped that the astonishing attack on opposition leader Kizza Besigye and his aides on Thursday would prove a turning point and that the regime would appreciate the damage its assault on unarmed protesters is doing to its standing in the community of nations. Those hopes proved misplaced. In his address in Nairobi yesterday, Mr Museveni said he was more concerned with delivering electricity to the Ugandan people than respecting their rights. This is a ridiculous analogy because there is no reason why a government cannot do both. But the message from the statement issued from his office in Kampala illustrates the fact Mr Museveni has simply failed to complete the transition from a guerrilla in the bush to a civilian president. Armed militantsIt is absurd for Mr Museveni to cast the protesters as armed militants intent on toppling him despite the clear evidence from television images of the protests. Mr Museveni spoke of his opponents in the same terms as the Lord’s Resistance Army — Joseph Kony’s murderous rebels — and pastoralists he condescendingly described as the “unruly Karamojong”. Far from signalling that he would restrain his security forces who television pictures have shown dragging people out of their homes and subjecting them to savage beatings, Mr Museveni said he would go on the offensive. He said he would “deal firmly” with the opposition and promised to amend the law to introduce what would amount to something close to the arbitrary detentions practised in many parts of Africa in the 1970s and 80s. Mr Museveni wants a law passed to forbid the courts from granting his opponents bail. That is singularly unfortunate. There was a time when Mr Museveni was viewed as one of the most progressive leaders on the Africa continent. He was feted by the likes of British Prime Minister Tony Blair and admired by many young East Africans inspired by his background as a revolutionary and his modern guise as a statesman. Those days are long gone. Like many that have stayed too long in power, Mr Museveni is now behaving like the typical African autocrat. Across East AfricaOf course, this is not merely a Ugandan problem. The attention being paid to the events in Kampala across East Africa reflects the fact the economies of the region are now integrated and a crisis in one country can have negative effects across the region. The time has come for Mr Museveni’s peers and allies, including the other East African heads of state to have a word with him to avoid escalating the situation in Kampala. Mr Museveni should understand that any gesture to the discontented masses, even a token reduction in tax, will not be a demonstration of weakness but an act of political realism and courage. The Ugandan leader has been one of the most committed supporters of the East African integration project and deserves plaudits for that. He needs to understand that his dream of emerging as a leader of a united East Africa and his own legacy can only suffer from a political posture in his homeland that paints him as one that can only offer martial solutions even to economic problems. www.nation.co.ke/oped/Editorial/Musevenis+position+on+riots+disturbing+/-/440804/1153970/-/cpf4myz/-/index.html
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Post by Titchaz on May 1, 2011 6:27:37 GMT 3
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Post by Titchaz on May 1, 2011 6:29:54 GMT 3
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Post by b6k on May 1, 2011 6:52:47 GMT 3
The problem with African leaders is that they think they are still relevant even when they are well passed their Use By date. M7 should've left office 15 years ago on a high note. Now he's looking increasingly like his neighbour from Othaya.
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Post by man on May 1, 2011 6:54:34 GMT 3
Very many thanks to Mr. Linus Kaikai for puting this dictator to task and asking him those very tough questions. Its actually good that M7 was in Kenya at this particular time and was made to answer the questions while the crisis was going on. I wonder if the same would have happened if M7 was in Uganda this weekend. Mr. Kaikai should also be very thankful for being a Kenyan and asking these questions. God forbid what would have happened if these questions were fielded by a Ugandan journalist |
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Post by mzee on May 1, 2011 8:02:55 GMT 3
Museveni just like any dictator is so power intoxicated he does not see his mistakes. Besides he sees people like Dr. Besigye as ones who have failed to recognize the he is the almighty president of the republic of Uganda. He seems to be very annoyed with Kakai for asking the "wrong" questions. What a useless dictator, Bure kabisa
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Post by jakaswanga on May 1, 2011 11:24:21 GMT 3
Tichaz,
Mighty thanx for the photo essay on the rebellion on the streets of Kampala. You are good with this so I have this request which I would do it myself if I could, but I can't. For historical comparison, can you post on this thread some of the iconic photos, like the one on the arrest of Patrice Lumumba and the stuffing of the cotton wool in his mouth to gag him. The photos are freely available on the net. The bundling of Dr. Bessigye into the back of a truck looks eerily like the bundling of Lumumba into the lorry back in the early 60s!
The lining of partially dressed young blackmen on the tarmac towered over by riot police looks uncannily like the streets of Jo'burg during the school boycotts during apartheid. And the attempts by Ugandan police to block walkers is straight out of the apartheid police books during the bus boycott started in Soweto! Only in that era the police were white
Bessigye with his arm broken and kicked to the ground with pepper spray blinding him, is mirror image of the arrival of Lumumba in Kolwezi airport on his route to execution, and bludgeoned to the tarmac by the boots of forces loyal to Moise Tshombe.
Mwalimu I am sure you will see my purpose, --that young africans chancing on this esteemed blog, recognise the continuity of the ALUTA, started long ago by our brave ancestors. And that the likes of M7, are just part of the latest lineup of [now black] oppressors, to be fought and flushed down the sewers of history!
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Those jeeps from whose open tops the UPDF is firing upwards on the streets of Kampala, I could vouch they are some of the ones the USA routed to Kampala from Iraq, to help him battle Kony and Otti. Look who they are killing now!!!
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Post by OJ on May 1, 2011 13:09:16 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, here is a short clip of the arrest of Lumumba. Very inhumane treatment. Just look at the way the soldiers were tightening the ropes he was tied with. What a way to go. www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=68188another interesting documentary... |
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Post by gemagema on May 1, 2011 15:01:03 GMT 3
Besigye should sustain the fight. For as long as he continues to get media coverage...the Ugandans may sympathize and join him. And when they do that, there wont be a turning back. Also, the world is watching.
Hunger strike is only a wise tool if your other freedoms have been curtailed. But for as long as you have the freedom of movement, keep pressing on...and publicly. Besigye is plotting well, and he must press on. Very Well stated. Besigye, should put up with the fight for justice so long as he has that fire in his belly. Anyone counseling otherwise is just another mouthpiece for the status quoist forces and you can see just how bad these retrogressive forces have been for Kenya. The Status quo does not want competition and they advocate for some stupid obscure laughable tactics like "hunger strike". That is so completely inane idiocy I cant even laugh. Show me one case where a leader went on hunger strike and sparked a revolution. Ushenzi kweli, but the status quoists love nothing more that a passive weakened harmless opponent. Damm jameni is this foolish or what? ;D ;D The great abolitionist Douglass Power once said "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will" So yes Besigye should continue with his quest for justice and a level political playing field so long as he has the fire in the belly. But he should not be a bloody coward and hide and start on some ephemeral "hunger strikes". Talk about being insanely foolish - playing into the hands of the dictator who will just laugh him out of town! ;D ;D I hope you guys watched some BBC live debate this morning. A Ugandan political analyst/pundit, claimed that after the pictures of pepperspraying Besigye went public, his supporters went to the village/suburb of the inhuman policeman and set everything on fire. I dont know whether this has been reported by the media yet. The Ugandan political pundit agrees with many of us on this thread that the public seem to have started a political uprising that is resembling what is happening in North Africa and Arab world. Basically the time for dictators is up in Africa and the Muslim world. Whether Museveni falls now is not the issue, but he is going to fall sooner or later. Only time will tell as we also await the downing of Assad in Syria, and Gaddafi. What amazes me is the character of these dictators to continue with brutality in spite of their knowledge that their actions will call for indictment in the future. Museveni should not forget what happened to Gbagbo...wasnt it humiliating? Even Gbagbo's tough wife was so humiliated with her matutas on her head surpassing even those of my granny's. Poor Besigye, I wish him well. And when recuperated, he should return to those streets. It is such sacrifices that will liberate trodden upon citizens of many countries. Kenya was once there. The Odinga's, orengos, karuas, muliro matiba, etc went thru this same shit to bring Kenyans the second liberation. I wonder if they had hunger striked, whether much would have been achieved. Just wondering  Actually i remember Wangari Maathai once hunger striking...what was that for? Just keen to know if she ever achieved her cause with that. Notwithstanding, i greatly honour her too. It is just that some types of activisms, such as Hunger Strikes, don't serve African Political issues very well. |
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Post by madgf on May 1, 2011 18:37:19 GMT 3
Story doesn't add up. Why was he protesting? Did he register these protests or attempt to register them? His protest tangent seems irresponsible. Shouldn't he be calling for calm? There's probably more to this pepper spray story. He kind of seems like a somewhat violent chap.
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Post by madgf on May 1, 2011 19:42:00 GMT 3
OMG is this like a Washington antic? Walk to work? That's something we do in wazungu land for charity purposes. Everyone already walks too damn much in sub-saharan africa - kids walking 2km to fetch water, donkeys and so on. I can now see why he lost last elections.. he carries around a pepper spray.
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Post by OJ on May 1, 2011 21:58:05 GMT 3
@madgf, KB didn't have the pepper spray. If you watch the clip well, he was locked in his car, and I doubt whether he would be so foolish as to spray pepper spray at a policeman, knowing full well that he was out numbered, and that would have provoked an even more violent arrest, and that was not one of the charges preferred against him when he was arraigned in court.
Something that has just been brought to my attention, and which may probably need verification, is that KB owns a petrol station in Nsambya, for those who know Kampala, on the road leading to the US embassy. The prices there are still as high as all the others. If he was truly genuine about the plight of the people, why can't he reduce the pump price there as a show of solidarity??? (just my thoughts)
It is also important to know the history between KB and M7. It is said that they both loved the same woman while they were in the bush, but KB ended up marrying the lady. I don't think such bitterness can be ignored when these 2 people find themselves at loggerheads. It is only that KB is trying to get as much public sympathy as possible.
It is therefore advisable to see the real story as it develops. There may be more to it than meets the eye.
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Post by Titchaz on May 1, 2011 22:21:45 GMT 3
Tichaz, Mighty thanx for the photo essay on the rebellion on the streets of Kampala. You are good with this so I have this request which I would do it myself if I could, but I can't. For historical comparison, can you post on this thread some of the iconic photos, like the one on the arrest of Patrice Lumumba and the stuffing of the cotton wool in his mouth to gag him. The photos are freely available on the net. The bundling of Dr. Bessigye into the back of a truck looks eerily like the bundling of Lumumba into the lorry back in the early 60s! The lining of partially dressed young blackmen on the tarmac towered over by riot police looks uncannily like the streets of Jo'burg during the school boycotts during apartheid. And the attempts by Ugandan police to block walkers is straight out of the apartheid police books during the bus boycott started in Soweto! Only in that era the police were whiteBessigye with his arm broken and kicked to the ground with pepper spray blinding him, is mirror image of the arrival of Lumumba in Kolwezi airport on his route to execution, and bludgeoned to the tarmac by the boots of forces loyal to Moise Tshombe.Mwalimu I am sure you will see my purpose, --that young africans chancing on this esteemed blog, recognise the continuity of the ALUTA, started long ago by our brave ancestors. And that the likes of M7, are just part of the latest lineup of [ now black] oppressors, to be fought and flushed down the sewers of history! ------- Those jeeps from whose open tops the UPDF is firing upwards on the streets of Kampala, I could vouch they are some of the ones the USA routed to Kampala from Iraq, to help him battle Kony and Otti. Look who they are killing now!!!   |
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Post by nalinali on May 1, 2011 22:43:49 GMT 3
Jakaswanga
About Lumumba's arrest, one minor correction; what was stuffed in Lumumba's mouth was not cotton but crumpled paper containing the text of his Independence day speech. They were forcing him to swallow it in front of Mobutu at the airport before his transfer to the Brouwez House in Lubumbashi ahead of his execution alongside Opollo and Okito.
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Post by einstein on May 1, 2011 23:23:14 GMT 3
Something that has just been brought to my attention, and which may probably need verification, is that KB owns a petrol station in Nsambya, for those who know Kampala, on the road leading to the US embassy. The prices there are still as high as all the others. If he was truly genuine about the plight of the people, why can't he reduce the pump price there as a show of solidarity??? (just my thoughts) May be you want to think about your question above again. I'm sure you can answer it. Hint: Think along ECONOMIC lines. |
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Post by OJ on May 2, 2011 11:03:09 GMT 3
Something that has just been brought to my attention, and which may probably need verification, is that KB owns a petrol station in Nsambya, for those who know Kampala, on the road leading to the US embassy. The prices there are still as high as all the others. If he was truly genuine about the plight of the people, why can't he reduce the pump price there as a show of solidarity??? (just my thoughts) May be you want to think about your question above again. I'm sure you can answer it. Hint: Think along ECONOMIC lines. Einstein, that was a rhetorical question... It is only ironic for him to be seen to feel for the public, when in actual sense, he is milking them dry. Of cause I know it is purely economic... Thanks for the input though. |
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Post by jakaswanga on May 2, 2011 19:54:56 GMT 3
jjogola,
Aksante!
With tears in my eyes I watch. You know Lumumba's party had won the elections, and had the most nation wide balanced representation. A mystic cult has developed in the interior of Congo where Lumumba is depicted on the cross as a Jesus. A 'priest' in this cult told me the horrors of Congo in the past decade and a half, is the punishment to Congo for having betrayed herself so fundamentally!
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Tichaz,
Thank you. I have also gathered, that during the celebrations to mark the 50th anniversary of Congolese Independence last year, the Belgians released more archives material [upto then classified]. Will be asking around if the last hours of Lumumba were photographed, and are among them. Searched the net to no avail.
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Nalinali.
Okay, I did not know it was that horrific! There is a film showing how the King of Belgium stands up and walks out on Lumumba giving his prime ministerial speech, a few minutes later followed by the dog Tshombe!
But in the countrysides of Congo, those who were young and heard Lumumba on the radio that day long ago, still remember it as they day they stood up. The speech that led to the events that led to his murder, and which those soldiers try to have him swallow, is the speech that interpreted the feelings and aspirations of his people!
But I was also told he was gagged to stop him talking, since by his first arrest, he had managed to win the hearts of some soldiers and precipitated a rebellion before extra[katanga] troops were brought put it down. Infact he was being deported from Kinshasha to prevent a riot and storming of his jail.
NB: Check the pain in the voice of Kabaselleh [Grand Kalle] in these songs if you havent: independence cha cha cha; table ronde; afrika mokili mobimba.
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 2, 2011 20:00:31 GMT 3
NB: Check the pain in the voice of Kabaselleh [Grand Kalle] in these songs if you havent: independence cha cha cha; table ronde; afrika mokili mobimba. Kwani those songs were sung with PL in mind? I dont get your gist here, I do know however that they are beautiful songs. What has the Rt Hon Prime Minister said about this shameful treatment by M7 of Mr Besigye? |
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Post by job on May 2, 2011 20:10:54 GMT 3
A dictator's ramblings. Defensive, self-centred, egotistic, filled with hubris, and blind to own mistakes.
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Post by jakaswanga on May 2, 2011 20:24:48 GMT 3
Very many thanks to Mr. Linus Kaikai for puting this dictator to task and asking him those very tough questions. Its actually good that M7 was in Kenya at this particular time and was made to answer the questions while the crisis was going on. I wonder if the same would have happened if M7 was in Uganda this weekend. Mr. Kaikai should also be very thankful for being a Kenyan and asking these questions. God forbid what would have happened if these questions were fielded by a Ugandan journalist Linus did well to raise this point. But I feel his editors had not done enough background research to fortify him. When Museveni claims it is a joke to compare him with Amin, Kaikai does not want to press the point. Because he does not have the data perhaps. 1. After M7s victory in Kampala, and in pursuance of the remnants of the 'Northern army' [of the twin Okellos], the NRA of M7 went on a rampage in Acholi- and Langilands. The UN fact-finding missions wrote reports on this, though in the subsequent adoption of M7 into the pantheon of the new great leaders of africa then, they were ignored. Combined with the forced relocation of people which disturbed agriculture and led to famine, the death toll was high enough to warrant the term genocide. ---As a percentage of the total Ugandan population 100 thousand is not much, but as a percentage of Langi and Acholi and allied sub-groups only! phew! 2. In the Ituri area of the DRC, from around januari 2000 to 2003, the UPDF and her local allies were involved in massacres and displacements of the local populations [for economic purposes]. The UPDF commander was Major Gen. James Kazini, recently murdered in Kampala conveniently after being fired as army commander. His immidiate superior was Gen. Salim Saleh, M7s half brother and smuggler in chief of congolese gems. UN reports on this are numerous, and it was only after Anan appealed directly to the Americans who then threatened to put Kazini and Saleh on an international arrest list, that the wanton murder of the congolese at the hands of the Ugandans stopped. And the UPDF scaled down and withdrew from the Congo. 3.The industrial use under slavery conditions by both Rwanda and Uganda of congolese peasants in illegal mining, and the summary executions of 'no-sayers'! Later to lead to the battle of Kisangani at which 15 thousand congolese died in one week as the armies of Rwanda and Uganda exchanged heavy weapons in residential areas. Recorded as a war crime. A serious editorial research team can prepare factual data in three days, enough for an interviewer to bring M7 very near Amin. He is not Amin, but his methodology has been very aminic! |
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Post by jakaswanga on May 2, 2011 20:33:21 GMT 3
NB: Check the pain in the voice of Kabaselleh [Grand Kalle] in these songs if you havent: independence cha cha cha; table ronde; afrika mokili mobimba. Kwani those songs were sung with PL in mind? I dont get your gist here, I do know however that they are beautiful songs. What has the Rt Hon Prime Minister said about this shameful treatment by M7 of Mr Besigye? PM, Nop, Lumumba was still alive when table ronde and independence chachacha were done. Infact Joseph Kabaselleh was with the negotiating team in Brussels, and he saw the roundtable! But he was later to say something was wrong. He did not get a fine feeling about it. It was like a funeral gathering, and it did not look like it was colonialism dying. So when he went to the studio, to sing about the good news of independence for Congo, it was the authentic sadness in his heart that came out. But Dr. Nico [of the divine fingers on guitar] told him it was the coldness of europe that had gotten to him! |
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Post by tnk on May 2, 2011 21:00:43 GMT 3
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Actually i remember Wangari Maathai once hunger striking...what was that for? Just keen to know if she ever achieved her cause with that. Notwithstanding, i greatly honour her too. 
