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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 16, 2011 9:32:43 GMT 3
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Post by b6k on May 16, 2011 10:08:50 GMT 3
Before we write him off as a suicide I hope our vigilant mboys looked into the possibility of accidental death or death by misadventure. I don't know many men who would wait patiently for an irate wife to return with god knows who after she's locked you up in your matrimonial room with your girlfriend. Wouldn't your first instinct be to get out of dodge? Not being blessed with the talents of spiderman or a mzungu rock climber, isn't it possible that a panicky guy trying to scale the wall from his balcony can slip & fall?
Whatever the case may be, may he RIP. Now for the Kirimi style tug of war between his wife & his mother.
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Post by destiny on May 16, 2011 10:30:15 GMT 3
What a tragic waste of talent for such a young and successful athlete! FM radio stations claim he was caught with yet another woman, a barmaid to be precise, there was some scuffle, he fell off the first floor of his mansion and died. The bar maid is said to be in police custody "assisting" with investigations. Did pressure of sudden fame and wealth get into his head thus contributing to his early demise? Perhaps. As Africans, we only talk about the good things when someone passes on. But still, his wife showed great courage by tolerating his wild lifestyle over the last one year. Despite all the scandals, fights, rumours, arrests etc, Kenya has lost one hell of an athlete.
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Post by phil on May 16, 2011 10:44:17 GMT 3
Why sympathise with an alcoholic serial philanderer and wife beater ??
You do not expect your missus to smile with you and serve you dinner when she finds you in her matrimonial bed with another woman, do you?
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Post by destiny on May 16, 2011 10:44:20 GMT 3
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Post by funkentelechy on May 16, 2011 11:34:49 GMT 3
I think he may have slipped badly when he simply jumped from the first floor balcony, after being locked inside by the wife. I'm thinking if it's a terrazzo floor, and if it had drizzled, rained or there was any kind of early morning moisture (expected in Nyahururu), it would be easy to slip and hit your head on the concrete after a 4-6 metre jump. If he'd been drinking, this explanation would even be more plausible. Suicide is the least likely explanation, in fact, I find it ridiculous. NB: the floor does look it has the slippery type tiles:  |
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Post by b6k on May 16, 2011 12:14:40 GMT 3
Funkentelechy, looking at the picture you've posted & considering the fall took place around 1 AM according to top cop Jaspher Ombati your theory is very likely. The wife unexpectedly comes home at the witching hour, the guy has beer muscles, angry with the coitus interruptus & being locked up in the upper section of HIS own house goes ballistic & tries to chase after her as she's leaving the gate. It wasn't a suicide.
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Post by nalinali on May 16, 2011 12:40:20 GMT 3
Why sympathise with an alcoholic serial philanderer and wife beater ?? You do not expect your missus to smile with you and serve you dinner when she finds you in her matrimonial bed with another woman, do you? Phil Reading this comment which seems to strongly pass judgement on the diseased even before all the facts are known and recalling your passionate objections to Willy's supposed positions on sexuality, i dare observe that some objectivity is slipping away from your take on issues. What is going on. |
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Post by OJ on May 16, 2011 12:50:48 GMT 3
funkentelechy, b6k, your theories above seems very plausible, and most likely what transpired... coitus-interruptus, while intoxicated... not pleasant!!! it is tragic, BUT, he was the author of his own misfortune. With all his wealth, what made him disgrace his matrimonial home? That shows utter disrespect for his wife, and it only goes to expose what kind of a person he truly was. That was the ultimate show of impunity. The fortune has brought out the devil in him. May he rest in peace now, and I hope his wife will start the long and difficult path to recovery. Some of these young and very successful athletes need mentoring, to prepare them for the high life once they start earning some serious money. It is such a waste of talent. We shall never know what really transpired in their life apart from what we are told in the news. Could someone have told Mrs. that Mr. had a 'temporary import' in their home, prompting a midnight fact-finding mission from Mrs? All is now water under the bridge. Let it be a lesson to all to appreciate what they get, and to respect their spouses who have been with them even before they became rich and famous.
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Post by kasuku on May 16, 2011 13:31:27 GMT 3
It does look like an accident. An athlete jumping from that height shouldn’t break even a born or Joint if he jumped with control and balance. But he being drunk, out of control and to make it worse, it does look like a slippery Tiled Terrace (Am a Garden Master and always warn people when using tiles on Terrace to mind slipperiness)
On another note...Athletes of today are money slots and are pushed over their limits without even a little bit of human care. They fall to depressions and other mental disorders - Imagine a once poor young man/woman coming into reaches through so much bodily training.
He will be threatened of loosing those riches every other day when he seems a bit tired or poorly and thus, well...we can just imagine what goes on in him/her. Yes, something must be done to protect them from exploitation and from themselves.
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Post by funkentelechy on May 16, 2011 13:46:23 GMT 3
It does look like an accident. An athlete jumping from that height shouldn’t break even a born or Joint if he jumped with control and balance. But he being drunk, out of control and to make it worse, it does look like a slippery Tiled Terrace (Am a Garden Master and always warn people when using tiles on Terrace to mind slipperiness) I've looked at the picture again, and this time more closely, and I've seen that the "trip" from the balcony is not straight. There is a small piece of the roof of the ground floor jutting out, with pink tiles, right above the 2 men looking at the ground. That small ledge is guaranteed to disrupt what would be a straight jump downwards. There is no grip since it's at an angle. That would make it a difficult jump for a sober emotionally-controlled man in daylight! I hate smooth tiles but the whole of Kenya (especially Nakumatt and Tuskys and all these fancy malls) thinks they're cool. I don't know how women in high heels walk around. The bigger question is why people - male of female - stay in toxic relationships. Is it love? |
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Post by b6k on May 16, 2011 14:09:38 GMT 3
@ jjogola @ kasuku, the KAA should set up an academy for the upcoming athletes who begin to strike it rich. The great majority of these youths come from humble backgrounds & when they are suddenly plugged into the jet-set age there's no telling what kind of stress they undergo from the cultureshock. At that facility, they should be able mingle with their peers & share their experiences both good & bad in the athletics world.
The academy should help them learn mundane things such as how to deal with questions from the media abroad to serious ones like how to invest their newfound wealth & how to prepare for a time when they can't compete any longer. The KAA should have a counseling section that ought to have intervened when Wanjiru started showing signs of losing control as was clear in Destiny's link & press reports. As things stand today, the KAA takes advantage of these athletes success without providing them with the necessary life skills to have successful careers & comfortable retirements. Not all of these talented athletes can end up as grounded & sober as Kipchoge Keino did with his foundation that has done wonders for orphans in his home town.
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Post by roughrider on May 16, 2011 14:40:16 GMT 3
it is tragic, BUT, he was the author of his own misfortune. With all his wealth, what made him disgrace his matrimonial home? That shows utter disrespect for his wife, and it only goes to expose what kind of a person he truly was. That was the ultimate show of impunity. The fortune has brought out the devil in him. Indeed Wanjiru may have been a victim of his success. He simply could not handle the wealth that came with winning marathons when he was originally a simple, humble boy from the slopes of Nyahururu. Sudden wealth can be a double edged sword when one lacks the finesse, the capacity and the sophistication to manage it. It can be argued that had Wanjiru remained a poor athlete with meager earnings, he would have maintained a tolerable lifestyle, sticking to his young wife. He wouldn't have built that house from where he fell to his death. Moral of the story: Money is not everything; in fact it mostly leads to evil. |
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Post by Titchaz on May 16, 2011 16:03:39 GMT 3
Samuel Kamau Wanjiru at the Nyahururu Law Courts on December 30, 2010 where he was charged with threatening to kill his wife. |
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Post by phil on May 16, 2011 17:10:47 GMT 3
Phil Reading this comment which seems to strongly pass judgement on the diseased even before all the facts are known and recalling your passionate objections to Willy's supposed positions on sexuality, i dare observe that some objectivity is slipping away from your take on issues. What is going on. Seems like Nalinali has not been following the circus that is Wanjiru's marital life. As I type these lines, a second woman has emerged in Nakuru claiming to be Wanjiru's 2nd wife, she has photographic and other evidence, and that she is five months pregnant for Wanjiru.   |
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Post by roughrider on May 16, 2011 18:00:17 GMT 3
Phil - did you really have to post the picture of a dead Wanjiru? We don't doubt that he is gone - I was content with pictures of him winning marathons.
He clearly a flawed character with specific weakness for women and alcohol. Money made these failings worse. And he rose to fame and fortune while too young to handle the freedom that wealth offered.
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Post by mangai on May 16, 2011 19:50:17 GMT 3
Kenya's reigning olympic marathon champion Sammy Wanjiru's body lies at the Nyahururu district mourtuary where it was taken May 16,2011 after he died following a fall from his home in the town of Nyahururu. According to police Wanjiru, 24, fell from the second story of his home and soon died after being transfered to hospital./quote] I had not imagined how heartless some guys can be. You didnt have to post this! Please note that despite his marital problems, which most men go through anyway, the guy was the first Kenyan to win an Olympic gold medal in Marathon. He should be celebrated instead. We also need to wait for full investigations to determine the cause of his death. It could be homicide and not suicide as per the early reports. |
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Post by kamalet on May 16, 2011 20:27:46 GMT 3
Mangai
You did not have to repeat the same thing you whine about!
As we say RIP to Wanjiru and to Kenya for the loss of a fantastic marathoner I still have concerns about the suicide theory.....
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Post by commes on May 16, 2011 20:41:59 GMT 3
Mangai You did not have to repeat the same thing you whine about! As we say RIP to Wanjiru and to Kenya for the loss of a fantastic marathoner I still have concerns about the suicide theory..... Good to see you guys still going strong. Kweli a leopard cannot change its spot, even as I say RIP, I agree with you on this one. Me rules out both homicide and suicide…. Ma crystal ball tells me the Hero in the late Samuel Wanjiru pushed him to jump over his railing from first flr in pursuit of his wife. In his highness, he fatally landed face first…… What a sad end. I can only wish that he walked away from his "wife" in the first place. |
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Post by commes on May 16, 2011 20:50:51 GMT 3
Why sympathise with an alcoholic serial philanderer and wife beater ?? You do not expect your missus to smile with you and serve you dinner when she finds you in her matrimonial bed with another woman, do you? ...Oops, speculative? Starting to read this thread from the beginning. Not that the madam could have been a "saint" either. It is possible that she was just impossible...... Bottomline abuse of a spouse in whatever form is bad |
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Post by shifta on May 16, 2011 20:52:23 GMT 3
Phil, that photo shot was unnecessary.
As a dad, my heart goes out to his parents, if they are alive
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Post by mzee on May 16, 2011 23:12:06 GMT 3
Phil, that photo shot was unnecessary. As a dad, my heart goes out to his parents, if they are alive I agree Shifta,The picture was completely uncalled for. Phil could you please REMOVE THE PICTURE? |
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 17, 2011 0:03:59 GMT 3
Phil, that photo shot was unnecessary. As a dad, my heart goes out to his parents, if they are alive I agree Shifta,The picture was completely uncalled for. Phil could you please REMOVE THE PICTURE? Why should the pic be removed? I see no reason for that censorship |
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Post by hannali on May 17, 2011 0:15:54 GMT 3
Marriage seems to be the begining of serving a death sentence. RIP Samuel Wanjiru and The Kenyan police cannot find the cause of rat's death if you stumped on it before their very eyes. If you can trust them to differentiate a murder from an accident, then you could as well pick up your phone and call the biblical Methusellah for a hearty chat. And again, From that balcony?? to me Wanjiru would have broken his limbs. Not unless something really bad was coming towards him and he fell backwards.Maybe his wife or mistress or somebody/something really bad and lethal was coming at him and he fell backwards trying to save his threatened soul
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Post by adongo23456 on May 17, 2011 0:37:57 GMT 3
Folks,
I was checking this thread to see what has transpired only to come face to face with a picture of the dead Wanjiru still bleeding. I didn't wait to see who posted it because I did not want to see it for even one second. From what I read here they were posted by phil. Surely that must not be the same phil who was talking about chastity, family values etc? How would posting the raw picture of a dead man tally with all that family value talk?
My family values taught me never to defile the dead ever. Posting that picture is an act of defilement. It is gross, it is cruel and heartless. This site does not deserve such dishonour. Such picture may say a lot about the person who posted it, but it also says a lot about all of us who would even entertain such ugliness. I am glad people have protested and whoever posted that picture should not only remove it immidiately, they should be ashamed of themselves. They may think they are better than Mr. Wanjiru, in some moral map in their head, but they too may have even worse problems. Just take the picture out, please.
As to the death. It is a msytery to me. If I was coming down that stairs, I would hold on to the rails on the second floor,lower my body straight downand that would bring my feet to within four feet or less from the ground. I would come down easily. And that is me who would take a year to finish the kind of marathon these guys finish in hours. Something just doesn't add up.
That man was pushed over the balcony and landed backwards or something like that. And the lady she was with. Where was she when all these happened? How did she get out out. Right now if I was the cops I would work with the theory that Wanjiru's wife pushed him over the balcony and stormed out locking the door. I think ther other woman had already bolted by then. But that would be my theory until proved otherwise. But this is the Kenya police. They wouldn't arrest a chicken thief if they caught one with the chicken "screaming" under his underwear. They would say they can't see the chicken. Case closed.
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