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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 12, 2011 8:02:52 GMT 3
Possible Exposure of ICC Witness Onyango Oloo <onyango.oloo@gmail.com> Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:57 AM To: otp.informationdesk@icc-cpi.int Cc: "onyango. oloo" <onyango.oloo@gmail.com> Information and Evidence Unit
Office of the Prosecutor
Post Office Box 19519
2500 CM The Hague
The NetherlandsMonday, September 12, 2011 RE: POSSIBLE EXPOSURE OF ICC WITNESS To Whom It May Concern: Greetings from Nairobi, Kenya. My name is Onyango Oloo. I am a Kenyan human rights activist. I also happen to be founder and administrator of JUKWAA, an online discussion forum with a focus on Kenyan politics. It has been up and running since August 2005. Membership is by registration. Only members can post to the forum even though guests can surf and read the postings and threads on the forum. We currently have a membership of 1,555 drawn from people all over the world. Our site is among the most popular of the Kenyan online forums- though by no means the one with the most traffic. I have just noticed a new posting by one of our newly registered members. It is titled, " EXCLUSIVE: STATEMENT BY WITNESS 6". The poster then copy pastes a link to a site calling itself " WikiLeaks Kenya". On opening the link one comes across a purported email from one "David Koros". I will not comment further because I cannot vouch for the veracity of the purported document and alleged communication. I write to the Office of the ICC Prosecutor because of a serious concern on my part that someone may have inadvertently or deliberately put a potential ICC witness at risk-if in fact there is such a witness in the first place. For now it will suffice to share with you the link to the posting on the Jukwaa site and leave it to your discretion to pursue and investigate this further. Should you require further information and clarification, please contact me directly using this email address. Here is the URL: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5784Sincerely, Onyango Oloo Nairobi |
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Post by kamalet on Sept 12, 2011 13:20:39 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 12, 2011 13:43:09 GMT 3
I have been informed by a very credible source that the "Wiki Leaks Kenya" site is operated by a Kenyan journalist who used to work until very recently for a major Western news agency and is now part of the Uhuru Kenyatta propaganda team.
My lips are ZIPPED as to the actual name of the said individual.
Onyango Oloo
Nairobi
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Post by commes on Sept 12, 2011 14:20:47 GMT 3
I have been informed by a very credible source that the "Wiki Leaks Kenya" site is operated by a Kenyan journalist who used to work until very recently for a major Western news agency and is now part of the Uhuru Kenyatta propaganda team. My lips are ZIPPED as to the actual name of the said individual. Onyango Oloo
NairobiSimple domain search on the web reveals as follows. (Pls advise me to remove if offending or unnecessary) Domain Information Query: wikileakskenya.co.ke Status: Active Created: 02 Mar 2011 Modified: 09 Mar 2011 Expires: 02 Mar 2012 Name Servers: ns1.bluehost.com ns2.bluehost.com Registrar Information Registrar Name: Webhost Kenya Ltd Registrant:
Name: Marvin TumboAddress: P.O. Box 45312 Nairobi, Nairobi 00100 KE Phone Number: +254. Admin Contact: Name: Webhost Kenya Ltd Address: P.O. Box 1175 Nairobi 00606 KE Email Address: ke.linkedin.com/in/marvintumbo |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 12, 2011 15:48:28 GMT 3
Thanks for that nice cyber investigation Commes.
I do have a different name however- it could be a pseudonym.
Who knows?
The person may even be a Jukwaa member...just kidding.
Onyango Oloo
Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 12, 2011 15:53:43 GMT 3
Section 83 U of the Kenya Communications Act 2 of 1998 provides as follows:[/b]
(1) subject to subsection (2), any person who causes a computer system to perform a function, knowing that the access s/he has secured is unauthorized, shall commit an offence and shall on conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding two hundred thousand shillings or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or both.
Subsection 2 of the said section provides that a person shall not be liable under subsection (1) where s/he:
a. Is a person with a right to control the operation or use of the computer system and exercises such right in good faith.
b. Has the expressed or implied consent of the person empowered to authorize him/her to have such access.
c. Has reasonable grounds to believe that s/he has such consent as specified in (b) above; or
d. Is acting in reliance of a statutory power for the purpose of
obtaining information, or taking possession of any document or other property.
Section 83 W criminalizes unauthorized access to and interception of computer service with a penalty of a fine of five hundred thousand or jail term of five years or both.
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Post by b6k on Sept 12, 2011 16:22:56 GMT 3
I have been informed by a very credible source that the "Wiki Leaks Kenya" site is operated by a Kenyan journalist who used to work until very recently for a major Western news agency and is now part of the Uhuru Kenyatta propaganda team. My lips are ZIPPED as to the actual name of the said individual. Onyango Oloo
NairobiSimple domain search on the web reveals as follows. (Pls advise me to remove if offending or unnecessary) Domain Information Query: wikileakskenya.co.ke Status: Active Created: 02 Mar 2011 Modified: 09 Mar 2011 Expires: 02 Mar 2012 Name Servers: ns1.bluehost.com ns2.bluehost.com Registrar Information Registrar Name: Webhost Kenya Ltd Registrant:
Name: Marvin TumboAddress: P.O. Box 45312 Nairobi, Nairobi 00100 KE Phone Number: +254. Admin Contact: Name: Webhost Kenya Ltd Address: P.O. Box 1175 Nairobi 00606 KE Email Address: ke.linkedin.com/in/marvintumboOuch! Commes, Tumbo "horned" (sic) his skills but he never figured he'd be outted on Jukwaa. The furu furu conditioning treatment complete with LinkedIn site with photo? Please remind me never to get on your wrong side...Or at least send a verbal warning before you smoke me from my hole. |
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Post by commes on Sept 12, 2011 16:36:08 GMT 3
Ouch! Commes, Tumbo "horned" (sic) his skills but he never figured he'd be outted on Jukwaa. The furu furu conditioning treatment complete with LinkedIn site with photo? Please remind me never to get on your wrong side...Or at least send a verbal warning before you smoke me from my hole. Hee..hee. Bobby Sixkiller ( b6k) how befitting. I swear that I shall never frame you for a crime that you didn't commit. I am on the run and and I’m figuratively confident that you ain’t chasing me like Reno, only best of buddies here on Jukwaa ;D ;D ;D. |
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Post by b6k on Sept 12, 2011 16:56:00 GMT 3
Phew! Commes, no harm done, so far by releasing my full handle. Some of us still believe there is safety in them. Allow the illusion to live on, my brodah! I will be careful in future if I go into the domain creating business aka photoshopping expert as revealed by Amadain.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 13, 2011 8:05:23 GMT 3
For those who thought that my letter to the ICC was a bit of an over reaction, let me assure you all that it was not.
The risk to the actual and potential ICC witnesses is very much real.
Those of us who live in Nairobi and follow the ICC process very closely-beyond the headlines and the sensationalist postings on Jukwaa and other online forums- are aware of concrete cases of very bad things happening to ICC witnesses.
Folks, people have been KILLED to protect some of the Ocampo Six suspects. Some witnesses are in hiding inside and outside the country because there are assassins hunting them down to eliminate them because of what they might know about the events associated with the Post-Election Violence.
It is not a joking matter.
Let me cite just one example.
On the 5th of November 2009 Mungiki spokesman Gitau Njuguna wa Njuguna was shot dead in broad daylight as he walked around Luthuli Avenue in the heart of Nairobi. This was a few days after he complained to several civil society organizations that he feared for his safety.
His assailants have never been brought to book.
There was a theory that Njuguna may have been a potential ICC witness.
Now who, among the Ocampo Six would have been uncomfortable with that prospect?
I will not speculate.
As Jukwaa administrator I do not want the blood of even one innocent Kenyan staining my hands because this site was used to expose the identity of a potential witness who eventually ended up a corpse.
That is why I urge all of us to exercise discretion on these ICC matters. As we know, Jukwaa allows a healthy, open debate to flourish about the ICC process with all kinds of views expressed without censorship- they are people who are against the Hague hearings, just like there are those who are adamant that it is only through the ICC that we will get some closure on the issues of impunity regarding the Post Election Violence. They are those who believe that the Ocampo Six are completely innocent while there are those who hold contrary opinions.
We will continue to uphold freedom of opinion, expression, conscience and association in regards to the ICC process here in Jukwaa.
What we shall NOT countenance are irresponsible actions that may jeopardize the safety of others.
I want everyone to know that I am VERY MUCH AWARE THAT JUKWAA HAS BEEN INFILTRATED BY THE FORCES OF IMPUNITY.
On more than one occasion there have been links posted on Jukwaa leading us to mischevious propaganda sites by people opposed to the ICC process. There has been more, but let me keep mum about that.
For now I am observing events as they unfold and will let people exercise prudence.
Onyango Oloo
Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by kamalet on Sept 13, 2011 8:57:31 GMT 3
Oloo
As I have said elsewhere, if Ocampo has not told us who his witnesses are (they are completely confidential!) and if we are to go with the information from the likes of Hassan Omar, then we shall have joined the rumour mongering lot of this country be talking about exposed witnesses!
The problem with you guys in the civil society is that when you are bent on a story, you will hang on any event as justification. I notice now that you believe that the Mungiki spokesman Gitau was killed by some people running errands for the O-6 rather than the story peddled in the media when the guy was shot.
Mungiki is nothing but a criminal enterprise and the cold blooded murder of Njuguna may have been internal dispute or a process of the Ali type elimination of all the cell leaders of Mungiki which was used to contain Mungiki.
Finally, if we follow your argument, then you must a very low opinion of Ocampo that he does not know how to take care of his witnesses that they are roaming the streets of Nairobi and elsewhere facing all sorts of real and cyber threats!!
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Post by man on Sept 13, 2011 9:21:03 GMT 3
Still on this ICC thing, can someone please explain to me who is this Dr. Matsanga who is a frequent visitor on the bench (K24). This fellow is a permanent fixture on this TV show by Jeff Koinange. Is he a hired gun?? And if so, whose hired gun is he?? One man cannot dominate a show like this unless of course ther are some vested interests somewhere.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 13, 2011 9:21:41 GMT 3
Kamalet:You are of course, entitled to your own opinion, different as it may be, from the views I hold. I don't know where the fulminations against "you civil society blah blah blah" emanated from when it was Onyango Oloo speaking personally and directly as Jukwaa Administrator on a serious issue which can have legal implications for Jukwaa as a web site. Just out of curiousity, since I imagine you surf and browse a lot did you ever see the story in the link below? www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2010/1215/Threat-to-Kenya-s-ICC-witnesses-Traitors-will-be-dealt-with-ruthlesslyPlease have a good day sir. Onyango Oloo
Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 13, 2011 9:30:26 GMT 3
Still on this ICC thing, can someone please explain to me who is this Dr. Matsanga who is a frequent visitor on the bench (K24). This fellow is a permanent fixture on this TV show by Jeff Koinange. Is he a hired gun?? And if so, whose hired gun is he?? One man cannot dominate a show like this unless of course ther are some vested interests somewhere. is a Ugandan. He is more well known as Kony's former right hand man. Click on the link below: humanrightshouse.org/Articles/8547.htmloo nbi |
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Post by commes on Sept 13, 2011 9:44:06 GMT 3
Kamale, Reading your posts reminds me of the articles written by Charles Dickens. The guy who wrote the book titled The Tale of Two Cities. For this guy “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us” I must admit that you are one of the members here who makes the most baffling and perplexing statements and observations. You blow hot and cold If I am to express my inner view, you sound overly like a state agent in your posts with competing interests. I am not saying that that is bad and that you are a state machinery. I am only making an observation. Sometimes it appears that your aim is to throw contributions off track. Again those are my own personal deductions that could be wild and far misplaced. I could be paranoid but this does not mean that I have nothing to be paranoid about you posts that appear to be self-serving, and reinforce a pattern of dislike to civil society or any human rights initiatives.Ma 2 cts. As I have said elsewhere, if Ocampo has not told us who his witnesses are (they are completely confidential!) and if we are to go with the information from the likes of Hassan Omar, then we shall have joined the rumour mongering lot of this country be talking about exposed witnesses! So Hassan Omar is a rumour mongerer. Anything that he does in the human rights commission amounts to rumour? The problem with you guys in the civil society is that when you are bent on a story, you will hang on any event as justification. I notice now that you believe that the Mungiki spokesman Gitau was killed by some people running errands for the O-6 rather than the story peddled in the media when the guy was shot. It is always evident that nothing good can come out of the Civil Society. It is a problem with you guys...... Mungiki is nothing but a criminal enterprise and the cold blooded murder of Njuguna may have been internal dispute or a process of the Ali type elimination of all the cell leaders of Mungiki which was used to contain Mungiki. Here you go again throwing persons off track. Blowing hot and cold. Personally I search for the truth in what you oppose. Of cause tactics change. Don’t they? Finally, if we follow your argument, then you must a very low opinion of Ocampo that he does not know how to take care of his witnesses that they are roaming the streets of Nairobi and elsewhere facing all sorts of real and cyber threats!! Even the FBI and CIA have their cover blown and compromised every so often. So who is Ocampo?[/size] [/quote] Too much heat for nothing!!
Ocampo has not named a SINGLE witness he intends to use, so how do we know who the witness are so that they can be hurt?
If I was some ODM operative that is intent on locking away the O-6 to pave it for Raila O, I would be hunting the witnesses, harm them and voila! Our jamaa is home and dry! ;D ;D ;D
Then you throw a bait to the ODM operatives to attempt a silly hunt on the witnesses and gain from it. Hee..hee. Let me laugh for a moment.
Kamale, I would personally wish to meet you in person so that you can indulge me with your mind and train of thoughts.
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Post by kamalet on Sept 13, 2011 10:08:07 GMT 3
Commes
Do not worry - meeting will add very little value! You have already met me by reading my convoluted way of thinking ;D
Yes any persons cover can be blown...but it starts internally not externally unless the person whose cover is blown is that negligent!
I got lost on all yes you were talking about - sorry but too incoherent for me to follow!
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Post by mzalendo on Sept 13, 2011 10:56:36 GMT 3
commes,
Get used to this pal! the above staements just summarises it all.
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Post by shifta on Sept 14, 2011 7:15:44 GMT 3
I am not surprised that Kamalet does not believe that any of the Ocampo suspects might be behind the killing of the Mungiki spokesman, afterall, he did not believe that there were extrajudical killings of young Kikuyu men under Michuki. All those widows and weeping moms were just hired actresses.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 14, 2011 10:25:51 GMT 3
I am not surprised that Kamalet does not believe that any of the Ocampo suspects might be behind the killing of the Mungiki spokesman, afterall, he did not believe that there were extrajudical killings of young Kikuyu men under Michuki. All those widows and weeping moms were just hired actresses. Chuckle. You make me smile in the morning here in Nairobi with that crack about the "actresses". OO nbi |
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Post by kamalet on Sept 14, 2011 22:05:05 GMT 3
I am not surprised that Kamalet does not believe that any of the Ocampo suspects might be behind the killing of the Mungiki spokesman, afterall, he did not believe that there were extrajudical killings of young Kikuyu men under Michuki. All those widows and weeping moms were just hired actresses. The killing of the Mungiki spokesman has only been linked to the O-6 here in Jukwaa and that does not make it any believeable. It is patently clear that there are many here in Jukwaa whose main interest in the O-6 has nothing to do with the victims of PEV but actually the political aspirations of an individual! So the tendency to hold onto straws is understandable. |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Sept 14, 2011 23:19:19 GMT 3
The killing of the Mungiki spokesman has only been linked to the O-6 here in Jukwaa and that does not make it any believeable. It is patently clear that there are many here in Jukwaa whose main interest in the O-6 has nothing to do with the victims of PEV but actually the political aspirations of an individual! So the tendency to hold onto straws is understandable.
Kamale:I bet the link below is from Jukwaa huh? delhi.iridiuminteractive.in/capitalfm/news/?p=5992Onyango Oloo
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Post by OtishOtish on Sept 14, 2011 23:49:32 GMT 3
I am not surprised that Kamalet does not believe that any of the Ocampo suspects might be behind the killing of the Mungiki spokesman, afterall, he did not believe that there were extrajudical killings of young Kikuyu men under Michuki. All those widows and weeping moms were just hired actresses. The killing of the Mungiki spokesman has only been linked to the O-6 here in Jukwaa and that does not make it any believeable. It is patently clear that there are many here in Jukwaa whose main interest in the O-6 has nothing to do with the victims of PEV but actually the political aspirations of an individual! So the tendency to hold onto straws is understandable. From what I gather, the "an individual" is supposed to be Raila. Without getting into the history of our MPs shouting in unision, "don't be vague, let's go to hague", it seems helpful to remind people that the ICC is here, and the process will go on. So, it might be useful to focus on that. I'd like to quote Martha Karua: "You asked for The Hague. The Hague is now here. So take the Hague quietly". That strikes me as very sensible advice. |
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Post by kamalet on Sept 29, 2011 12:59:14 GMT 3
Oloo I am sure you wil find this even more interesting www.scribd.com/doc/64793364/ICC-THE-LEAKED-MAILSSomewhere inside there you will find a suggestion that the email of "David" may have been leaked and was known in Jukwaa - complete with link! - and if David could change it as Jukwaa folk think he is Witness no. 6! The exchanges of the leaked emails are very interesting and it also confirms the extent to which the small group in Eldoret went to make capital out of PEV if the reading of the emails is true! Read for yourself and you may find that I may have been right afterall about us not knowing who the witness were...apart from those being coached in Eldoret! |
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