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Post by Omwenga on Jan 23, 2012 21:31:07 GMT 3
omwenga.com/2012/01/23/kibaki-says-he-has-no-confidence-in-attorney-general-prof-githu-muigai-to-advice-the-government-on-icc/Excepts: How can the president order the Attorney General to constitute a team to advise him on a matter any competent lawyer can take about 5 minutes to tell him what the government’s options are and 3 of those minutes will be spent on pleasantries about the weather, traffic or whatever people who meet the president for the first time must awkwardly try to say before having their minute with the president to state their plea, if assuming the lawyer was plucked off the streets on Harambee Avenue and is unknown to the president? ... The president alluded in his speech that he still clings to the hope that these cases can be brought back to Kenya for trial but, unfortunately, the reasons he cited are just not enough to convince the ICC that the country now has what it takes to pursue justice for the PEV victims as well as bringing closure to this tragic chapter of our history. The time to have done all of this, is in the past. That’s is not to say the reforms the president cited have not occurred, they have but not enough to overcome the widespread believe none of the suspects cannot circumvent the system for a desired outcome, and that is a verdict regardless of the facts. If the president wants to embarrass himself and the country with yet another shuttle diplomacy, let him do so but that would be tantamount to flipping the country the middle finger again but this time with far more serious consequences in as far it would reverse what progress he has made in redeeming his legacy. The more than 1000 people who died and the thousands who are still displaced due to PEV and equally important our resolve to be a country that respects the rule of law is far more important than protecting the interests of a handful of individuals, who may or may not be guilty as charged. ... It would therefore defy logic and even common sense to say anyone being charged with these serious crimes can be left to hold office pending trial when Deputy Justice Nancy Baraza is literally about to be run out of town for merely pinching someone’s nose, if she did and even if its over the more serious charge of brandishing a gun, it still pales in comparison to the crimes the Ocampo 4 now must face the prosecutor to answer at trial. It would be hypocrisy of the highest order and an unacceptable major flipping of the middle finger against PEV victims and the country at large for anyone to try and come up with any reason justifying these two individuals, Uhuru and Muthaura, remaining in office pending trial. There is little doubt the president’s announcing that he is forming a legal team to advise him what to do, is an effort to buy time in the hopes of coming up with another unprecedented and presently unimaginable move to stall or wish away public thirst for an end to impunity or at for at least commitment to seek justice for PEV justice but such efforts is merely stalling the inevitable and that is, Uhuru and Muthaura must step aside or the president will seal his legacy as one who put a blind fold on his eyes and refused to see the tears in the victim’s eyes crying for justice and the anguish of the many others who are still suffering from PEV. That putting on those blinds is for the benefit of the president’s narrow political interests, is more so the reason he should remove them and do the right thing for no amount of serving personal political interests can ever be greater than at least even an effort to ensure those who died, did not die in vain and those suffering cannot continue suffering even more simply because of serving those narrow political interests. The right thing for the president to do, is simply to ask Uhur and Muthaura to step aside pending trial and cooperate with ICC to the extent possible. Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=6459&page=1#ixzz1kIxE2bz8
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Post by justfacts on Jan 24, 2012 20:50:20 GMT 3
@ Omwenga,
He must be seen to be doing something.
Wording of the ICC ruling has come right to the door step of the house on the hill. His Lieutenants are on the dock and his legacy at stake (if it was ever redeemable).
All that is left now is the machinery of state and acquiescence of the public to play on.
The ICC ship left the port long time ago and even the AU...thanks to Wiper shuttles ..... was unable to stop it.
The world will only watch this legal shenanigans with a sigh. For the 4 what is left now is to willingly appear in court or become fugitives. No AG or Court ruling in Kenya can stop this.
So allow the man some space, the half baked arguments were not unexpected, he is at his wits end.
But demands for accountability must remain. If not in Kenyan courts then wherever. Justice calls.
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Post by Omwenga on Jan 25, 2012 3:42:33 GMT 3
@ Omwenga, He must be seen to be doing something. Wording of the ICC ruling has come right to the door step of the house on the hill. His Lieutenants are on the dock and his legacy at stake (if it was ever redeemable). All that is left now is the machinery of state and acquiescence of the public to play on. The ICC ship left the port long time ago and even the AU...thanks to Wiper shuttles ..... was unable to stop it. The world will only watch this legal shenanigans with a sigh. For the 4 what is left now is to willingly appear in court or become fugitives. No AG or Court ruling in Kenya can stop this. So allow the man some space, the half baked arguments were not unexpected, he is at his wits end. But demands for accountability must remain. If not in Kenyan courts then wherever. Justice calls. justfacts, We are witnessing events that are and no doubt will shape the future of our country in ways unimagined even as recently as a year ago. When you say Kibaki is at his wits end, you are not stating something far from the truth and the test of leadership, is how one extracts himself or herself from this without causing public ire.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Feb 8, 2012 2:46:33 GMT 3
What a waste of public money, does this team have a deadline to meet? i think i need one of these jobs before kibaki's term ends anyone with the right connections? Githu’s ICC team keeps tight lid on its agenda .....On Monday, the team is said to have discussed its terms of reference but a source who sought anonymity said they had failed to reach an agreement. After the Monday meeting, Prof Githu is said to have cancelled a statement he had prepared for the press www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Githu+ICC+team+keeps+tight+lid+on+its+agenda+/-/1064/1322042/-/vt4wsq/-/index.html
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 8, 2012 3:33:44 GMT 3
What a waste of public money, does this team have a deadline to meet? i think i need one of these jobs before kibaki's term ends anyone with the right connections? Githu’s ICC team keeps tight lid on its agenda .....On Monday, the team is said to have discussed its terms of reference but a source who sought anonymity said they had failed to reach an agreement. After the Monday meeting, Prof Githu is said to have cancelled a statement he had prepared for the press www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Githu+ICC+team+keeps+tight+lid+on+its+agenda+/-/1064/1322042/-/vt4wsq/-/index.html Akinyi,This is very strange. The Kenyan A.G Githu Muigai sets up this so called committee to advise "the government" on what to do about four chaps indicted by the ICC as having been responsible for crimes against humanity in Kenya in the 2007/8 PEV. The team meets and Geoffrey Nice, the big time mercenary lawyer already acting for Kibaki on failed missions at the ICC hearing chairs the meeting. Where is our A.G? Wasn't he given the job of being the "government's" chief legal adviser? Why can't Githu hand over his job to Geoffrey Nice given the huge inferiority complex he already manifests as if he has no capacity to handle his duties? So far it seems the team can't even agree on its terms of reference. So what on earth can they agree on if anything? And the Kenyan tax payers are footing this huge bill? What do they (the tax payer) get in return? This looks like a drive-by bank robbery of the Kenyan tax payer to me. The whole thing is going to collapse miserably. Sooner is better.
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